People used to put eels in wells to keep them clean.

some slavposter years ago had a live fish in their vegetable crisper

froge piss milk
with shid

>>5096863
why would I need to freshen my frog?

Chaining up monkeys and making them harvest coconuts for a meager salary of one banana an hour.

>>5096863
Wouldn't the frog just contaminate the milk by shitting in it?

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>>5096863
Turnspit dogs were breed to have only one purpose in life, to run, non-stop turning a spit roast. Zero intelligence, zero socialization skills, zero hunting or survival skills. Just run.

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>>5096905
The plains indians used to have dogs trained as pack animals, they'd carry bags or pull sleds for them

>>5096895
to keep it slopped up. a dry frog is a disaster

>>5096903
they piss milk and shit butter you moron

>>5096902
I remember the south park episode

>>5096905
>chihuahuas

>>5096958
chihuahuas are fucking good living alarm systems

>someone enters your property at night
>your three to six guard dogs which are capable of driving off an intruder don't care
>the chihuahua that lives on your roof notices and goes ballistic
>this drives all your dogs into "remove intruder" mode

>>5096912
thats because horses went extinct, and why the comanche were so feared after spanish gave them horses

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Weasels used to be kept in households for rodent control before domestic cats became common

>>5096902
But can it hear with that ear?

>>5096863
it reminded me of the old short tale about the frog turning milk into butter from swimming on it so much

>>5096863
>Chinese fishermen using cormorants
>That African tribe that works with a bird to get honey
>Rats used to detect mines
>Ferrets used to flush out rabbits to hunt them
A few that come to mind

>>5097002
Imagine the smell

>>5097002
>before domestic cats became common
You're baiting her aren't you?

>>5097002
Ironically neither could ever do the job. Humans are really not very smart.
>predator: lives alongside rodent populations in the wild
>human: I SAWS IT EAT ONE O DEM IMMA GET AND THEN ALL O DEM MICE GON DIE
>rodents: breed faster than predator can eat them
>predator: never runs out of rodents to eat
>human: I SAWS IT EAT ONE O DEM EVERY NIGHT SO IT KEEPIN EM UNDER CONTROL. AH'M MOUSE FREE, AINT SEE ONE IN WEEKS.
>rodents: actively trying not to be seen or caught
>predator: unable to eat mice faster than they can breed
>humans: constantly dying of disease
>God: Working as intended.
There is literally no animal, none, that can act as pest control. Zero. Even with purpose bred dogs their owner has to follow them around and break up rodents hiding spots, and follow up with trapping to clean up the hundreds that the dogs miss. If there were, rodents would just go extinct.

>>5097049
what are you talking about
domestic cats appeared in Europe only 2000 years ago
before that people kept weasels and we see that from Mediterranean island where weasels weren't native and had to be brought by humans

>>5097051
Correct. Traditional working animals are nonsense.

Dogs capable of protecting people and property are more likely to attack family members and friends.
Cats can't control rodents and are more likely to transmit diseases between humans and pests.

People just assume these things by cherry picking exceptional scenarios like "a pitbull attacked a burglar, once" or extrapolating from limited data, ie: cat eats two mice every night, its not that i have thousands of mice, it will definitely run out of mice to eat (never does). This idiocy kills more people in the modern age than the rodents and robbers ever could.

>>5097051
>>5097054
You motherfuckers say the stupidest shit and it never gets old. Keep it up, based retards.

>>5097051
You've never been to a farm where they have "barn cats"

>have 30+ cats in one barn lot
>supplement them with dry food in addition to the mice they eat
>cats are psychopaths that kill even if not hungry
>massive cat population kills every small animal within a mile of the house

One extra preditor doesn't change the ecosystem, but dump 30+ artificially supported predators and you'll see fewer mice

>>5097052
>what are you talking about
Look at 051. You inadvertently baited her. It's a poster that has been incessantly seething about cats for years. Furthermore she replied to herself in 054

>>5096905
The struggle itself towards the roast is enough to fill a dog's heart. One must imagine turnpit dog happy.

>>5096962
>the chihuahua that lives on your roof
lel

Raccoons were used by North American Indians as food source and brought in to several Caribbean islands

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>>5097063

>>5097002
>weasel out of its duty

>>5097061
yeah but now the cats are the pests, you want 30 fucking cats shidding and pissing up your barn? naww fuck that cat piss smells worse than mice

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>>5097061
>cats totally work guys
>you just need thirty plus to eradicate all signs of life
cats are also a rabies and plague vector on top of the toxo and famously dont do shit about rats because they're smarter than the cats, so, gee, i wonder why europoid peasants kept fucking dying until they discovered germ theory and europe continues to have the toxoplasmosis rate of fucking india

thank god i'm american. we keep 80+ % of our cats indoors (apparently the germongs wont even let you adopt one unless you sign a contract stating it will be allowed to roam). the FDA bans using cats as pest control.

What's up with brownoids constantly seething about cats every single time anyone talk about literally anything animal related?

>>5097073
lel

>>5096905
long ago, breeding created the hot-dog

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>>5097353
Guy said mice, not rats. Rats are nearly twice as big as a mouse. And rats might actually fight back under certain circumstances.

>>5097358
>Rats are nearly twice as big as a mouse
>nearly twice
A typical brown rat weighs about ten times as much as a house mouse. They can put up a serious fight.

>>5096902
and still it refuses to listen

I was looking for the simple household version of the below. This much more complex iteration is new to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_prognosticator

(only heard of the first and last of the related links, as well as those further linked from the latter)

>>5097058
Toxo typed this post

>>5097434
Deep shit. Street shit.

>>5097002
Lmao

Some electricians have used ferrets to run wiring through houses.

>>5096905
>Yeah we bred dogs to turn a plit roast in a tiny wheel
>But of course we couldn't expect one dog to do all the work, so we would swap dogs midway
>We also used them as feet warmers on church day
>Once the priest said "spit" and they all rushed for their jobs
>Queen Victoria (bless her heart) kept old spit roast dogs that couldn't do their jobs anymore
I don't know if it's true or I'm falling for ye old bullshit.

>>5096864
what was making the eels dirty?

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>>5098375
they were making pizzas

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Spiders build webs where there's airflow for insects to fly in. Home energy auditors use spider webs as a first indicator for air leakages and drafts.

>>5098485
so thats where pizza is coming from

>>5096962
>>5097074
>roof chihuahua
good tech. that way the barking isnt too grading to those in the house.

>>5098362
england is and was a silly place sometimes, victorian england doubly so

I used to live in a tiny village where they trained priests, and it had a 900 year old village church (separate to the priest training place)
in that church was a stone that said something like
IN MEMORIAM
FATHER JOHN OLDNDEAD
WHO DIED HERE ON SUNDAY SEPTEBRUARY 43TH
WHILE LEADING SUNDAY PRAYERS
and I always pictured him just nodding off mid sentence in a particularly boring sermon and never waking up

>the town was cuddesdon in case you need to fact czech me

>>5096863
This is something a witch would do

>>5097245
The cats seem to be a much lesser evil than rodents. I agree there appears to some kind of dissonance where rodents are 'gross' but the near-feral cats are fine. The real issue is equipment damage: mice/rats chew wiring and belts, nest in inconvenient places, chew intake filters, etc. all of which adds up to non-negligable damage with real costs; cats rarely cause similar issues that increase operational costs, even if they become a nuisance. Also, the most used alternative to cats seems to be poison, and I'll support any methods that avoids dumping poison in the environment.

>>5101616
But the rodents dont actually go away, and now you have also worms toxo and rabies in every patch of dirt. Congrats on being a thirdie.
>the alternative is poison
The alternative is mass catch traps and a visit from a team of dogs.

>>5097246
I am also American. Go outside and find out where your food comes from.
>the FDA bans using cats as pest control.
Fuck the government. You're cut off from doordash until you update your vax card, faggot. We'll be there next week to spray ddt all over your house.
>cats are also a rabies and plague vector
So? I'm not an anemic 12th century peasant, and I don't lick cat asses. It's not about disease, it's about equipment damage: rodents damage farm equipment - cats keep rodents away without using poisoning the environment.

>>5097353
Nice source-less clip from a Solon article headline. You win :) Did they monitor the number of rodents in the study area? Annecdotally, more cats = fewer mice even if they aren't killing them. Prey animals avoid predators and vacate areas that are consistently overpopulated with predators.

>>5101620
Cats don’t keep rodents away. You still have rodents, and cats are a disease vector that move sickness from the stubborn rodent population to humans via contaminated meat, produce, and soil.

For as long as there have been haughty peasants there have been fools with cat infestations and no shortage of hidden rodents that are somehow in a perpetual state of being driven off
>cats have expelled rodents from the barn 109 times!
>the rodents are still here.
>any day now! cats are based because they accuse the rodent and attack it!
>the rodents are still here. they’re basically attracted to the cat. they have been here for 10,000 years.
>ANY DAY NOW
Use real White European pest control technology like colony traps and terrier packs instead of african pest animals that neither do work nor appeal to people familiar with it.

Face it dude. Sometimes lazily swearing allegiance to something from the middle east isn’t enough to solve a problem. You have to actually do some work and enlist the help of your countrymen to round up the rats.

>>5101622
>t-they avoid them
This is literally trusting the science lmao. Lab rats didnt enter a box with cat piss. That was it. Real rodents live alongside their predators and male rodents that spend more time near predators are more attractive to female rodents and have more offspring. In a natural relationship predators dont eradicate their prey and prey dont flee en masse and starve out their predators. They compete for the same land forever.

>>5101618
>But the rodents dont actually go away
Ok, but they do. When the cat population gets low the rodent-issues increase (chewed belts, wires, hydraulic hoses; nests in grain chutes and hoppers, etc.). The cats die off for a number of reasons, but whenever they do the rodents come back until the cats are replaced. Even if the cats aren't killing every mouse, having a dense population of predators in an area causes prey to leave that area.

>>5101626
We aren't talking about a "natural relationship" it's an artificially sustained population of predators in a concentrated area. When the cats are there, they have fewer rodent-related issues. When the cats aren't there, more issues.

https://invasives.org.au/our-work/feral-animals/cats-in-australia/

>>5101631
But there are still rodents, and an additional disease vector that causes damage to bug-eating bird and amphibian populations… and way better options than cats or poison.

Cats are not useful animals. Just a lame african invention.

>>5101624
extremely mentally well adjusted post

>>5102247
this but unironically

>>5097245
>>yeah but now the cats are the pests, you want 30 fucking cats shidding and pissing up your barn?
What do you think happens in a barn without the cats?

>>5101624
I am a board tourist visiting /an/ because I was tired of the schizos on /int/ but I guess every board has its own special kind of schizo poster

>>5097051
I heard praying mantises are really fucking good at pest control

>>5096863
Sick

>>5101663
>there are still rodents
Pest CONTROL has never been about eradication.
That is some 50s nonsense.
The point is to keep rodents away from areas, and the data is clear that cars are effective, and cats don't do the harm to the resources the rodents do.

>>5096863
What if the frog takes a dump

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Induces severe mental illness in terminally online individuals

>>5104588
>pest control is about having pests but not noticing!
The data is clear that cats are ineffective lol. They don't even repel rodents. They alter their scavenging behavior to be more cautious and kill rodents at just 20% of the rodents fertility rate. All available data says this except for an unrealistic study where lab rats didn't enter a box with cat pee. Real rats obviously don't behave like this because I have caught them scavenging by litterboxes and eating alongside cats, and in wild rodents, makes who approach cats more often gave more offspring.
>Thank god i have a cat
>i have cat shit in my grain bins and i still have just as many pests
>but i never see them, they stay hidden and spend less time eating at any one time
>so they are under control!
There is a reason only 85 IQ mudslime pedophiles still hold cats in high esteem as anything but pets. Also, toxoplasmosis spread by catfaggotry kills at least 750 americans each year, and we have a relatively low toxoplasmosis rate compared to litterboxes like turkey, mexico, germany, china, and india. By at least, I mean we don't and can't count all the spontaneous miscarrages and fatal fetal deformities and correctly attribute them to toxoplasmosis. The 750 is just foodborne cases (50% meat, 50% vegetables). If you thought pitbulls were a plague (they are), people who think cats belong anywhere but the sofa are a fucking scourge. Toxoplasmosis can only exist in the environment if cats consume infected animals. Please enter the twenty first century and use man made technology to actually get rid of rodents.
>inb4 "but if i cram more than five cats into a barn...!"
yes, that behavior is why likely over one thousand people die from cat-specific diseases in my country every single year. buy a colony trap.

Not even starting on outdoor cat idiocy and the harm that does

We get it. You like your cat, pitbull, etc, its your pet, not everyone elses problem. Keep it that way.

>>5104588
>pest control is about still being infested with hundreds of rats. eradicating rodents is capitalism or something. heccin 50s white people shit.
Why do catfags get increasingly stupid over this? Dogfags admitted 99.9% of dogs dont protect their home from anything larger than a rabbit 50 years ago. Yet catfags are still clinging to utility delusions like owning a cat without a certain level of utility is the end of the world.

Are you capable of liking cats without being able to justify them to soulless utilitarian /pol/tards? Are you not able to own a cat because you like cats?

>>5104732
Dogfags in this thread saying dogs can do it.
>>5101618
>>5101624

>>5104697
This, how is the frog not just shitting in their milk?

>>5104863
Frogs don't poop

>>5104878
That webm people post here of the frog taking a massive crap would seem to contradict this.

>paleoschizo manages to make this thread about cats
holy lmao

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Speaking of cats....

>>5099679
The original Toyota Hilux

>>5096863
What the fuck were they doing in 19th and 20th century Russia and Finland? Do farmers get that bored they just do random shit like this?

>>5106173
they noticed that the frogs only lived in clean water, and reasoned that the frogs must be making the water clean
which is silly as hell because more logically you'd think the frogs just prefer to live in clean water

then it turned out they were half right because the frogs skin secretions had anti-bacterial properties, so they did prevent milk spoilage.
the downside being you still have a frog in your milk.

>>5106191
You laugh but this is how all advances were made
Be glad youre at the tail end of hundreds of thousands of years of experimentation

>>5097279
Seething about cats being more popular, some cats are annoying but not as much as them.

>>5104878
I have very clearly seen frogs shit, all kinds, unfortunately

>>5097002
Ferrets have long been used to help electrician thread cables through tunnels, so much so that there the tools that electrician use in modern day to get wiring through wall is called ferret tool. Actual ferrets are still used to this day, especially in UK were there are a lot of old buildings:

Cable Laying :: The National Ferret School
Freddie was a ferret used by electricians to thread wiring and cable in Auckland, New Zealand. Freddie was very good at his job, and on one morning is recorded as laying cables through 60 different pipes, the longest of which was 40 metres (130 feet).
https://www.ferret-school.co.uk/working-ferrets/cable-laying

Ferrets: The World's Cutest Working Cable Guys | Superpets
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL4zI6rXjI4