Watch this. If you don't believe he exists after this then you're willfully putting your head in the sand. It moves with a speed that no human could rival.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYz9L_jl-0Q

>>5101511
Your going to get ignored because actual intelligent people know that genuinely intelligent people don't believe in Bigfoot.

That means you think stupid people are intelligent. Which means you're stupid. And intelligent people don't waste time talking to people like you

>>5101513
gake and fay

>>5101511
I'm 100% convinced it is an extinct species native americans had contact with and went extinct, at the most recent, around the 70's. It being alive today is retarded tho, and the paranormal explanations are even more retarded

>>5101518
Where are the bones then dumbass.

>>5101529
Lost. I read an article a very, very long time ago, before the Internet was common and certainly before anyone had it in their pocket, that large ape-like fossils were discovered (in Montana, I think) and lost/stolen on the way to a natural history museum opening in Philadelphia.

>>5101569
Wow, no way? An ARTICLE?

>>5101571
Yup. Of course, it was likely BS considering wypipo weren't really anywhere near Montana yet when the Philly natural history museum was founded in, like, 1814 or whenever. There's the story of the giants in… Winnemucca, I think the town was called? The same article mentioned local natives there once upon a time having dealt with a species of large, ape-like cannibalistic/carnivorous humanoid giants who used to hunt said natives until, according to legend, the natives discovered how to control fire, managed to shoot flaming arrows at them and drive them into a cave or well or something and burning them all alive in there. Supposedly, a single skull from this species is in the collection at a local museum in that town.

>>5101575
Basically every culture on Earth at one point believed in giants, there’s nothing unique there. Bigfoot people go on and on about what the native Americans believe as if they’re infallible instead of human like the rest of us, and years of breaking sticks into trees and screaming into the woods, and still no solid evidence of bigfoot yet. There won’t ever be any because it ain’t real.

>>5101529
Why would there be identifiable bones? Scavengers abound in North America and these things could potentially bury or otherwise move their dead away from well-traveled areas. With a small population and plenty of exposure to the elements, their bodies could be stripped down to the bone and the bones scattered around within a couple weeks of death. At that point I don't think anyone in a position to prove what the bones are would ever find them. Albeit the skull and teeth would break down way less easily. That's a lot harder to explain without a complex culture with well-established burial practices that are effective at hiding bodies.

>>5101516
>comically low iq post

>>5101516
Genuinely intelligent people believe in the abrahamic god despite his archaeological heritage and the chain of plagiarism and lying that created his holy book. Bigfoot is reasonable by comparison.

Consider you have an asinine view of human intelligence. A calculator is very smart but is ignorant of all “anyone sane thinks…” consensus and “common sense” conclusions by its nature. You’re saying smart people agree with your take on an unprovable statement. And? Whats next, a sociological correlation between some fad belief and IQ (critical thinkers never pay attention to these btw)?

>>5101581
That does beg the question though, who were these giants they all believed in? Its odd that belief in these giants spread to almost every culture and corner of the world yet there is no concrete information on them.

>>5101517
Tell me how you fake a bipedal creature hauling ass through several feet of snow in the literal middle of nowhere. I'll wait.

>>5101529
Because the fossil record is known to be 100% complete right? it's why no new extinct species has been found since the 1800's

>>5101581
The thing about native americans specifically is how many times they describe what is pretty mundane ape behavior such as stealing food and throwing rocks (even kidnapping children if you take chimps into account). Again tho i think believing they are alive today is retarded.
I can believe they were really good at hiding from people in the 1900's. Them still being able to hide in the world of high quality trail cams and drones is just dumb.

>>5101598
Person but big is not a very creative monster

I WANT Bigfoot to be real, but I don't BELIEVE he is real, because that would be too awesome for our boring world.

>>5101610
Even if it was real i don't think it would be the most impressive animal. Elephants and specially whales are a lot more unbelievable in my opinion

>>5101615
Hell i don't think it would even be the biggest ape in the earth's history

>>5101655
yeah that would be giantopithecus i think

>>5101511
Bob Gymlan has a penchant for creative writing. He knows exactly what he’s doing. I suspect some of the “folks” that write in are actually just stories made by him. Good videos though, I like his stuff a lot.

>>5101762
His videos are very enjoyable if you take them as campfire stories

>>5101582
>and these things could potentially bury their dead

THEN WHERE ARE THE BONES, DUMBASS.

There are no apes in NA's fossil record period. What did they evolve from?

>>5101594
>Genuinely intelligent people believe in the abrahamic god
no

>>5101764
his shaitan one was good. at least that was based on real events even if he was just reinterpreting another guy's own words

>>5101786
NTA and also don’t believe in bigfoot, but the argument is that whatever it is crossed over the Bering land bridge during the last ice age and has just existed in North America in tiny populations since. It’s still a weak argument though, and it’s gotten to the point where bigfoot kooks are starting to grasp at straws and say it’s real but it’s an alien or interdimensional being lol

>>5101819
Yeah the man eater videos are the best ones. I would love one of that one tiger that killed 400+ people

bob gymlan is a schizo, a fag, and an attention whore. I'm convinced he only stumbled upon his prior mannerisms and opinions about how it's unreasonable to expect good photo quality by comparing snapshots of apes in a zoo or talking about how absolutely wild north america really is, and that he couldn't have come up with a coherent line of thought about anything of the sort if pressed. Every time he talks he throws something strange and bizarre in there, like believing bigfoot is a tarsier relative instead of an ape???? just absurd.
bigfoot itself is more plausible than most people give it credit for, but bob is an idiot. Went on joe rogen, claimed he didn't believe in ghosts, then said "actually I DO here's some heckin creepy pictures I took in a hotel 25 years ago also I never liked doughnuts"

>>5101513
clearly ai

>>5101921
You type like a schizo. Lighten up, don’t light one up.

>>5101930
Speaking casually its schizo-talk now? Did I need to make my post in proper MLA format for you to accept it?

>>5101935
>I'm convinced he only stumbled upon his prior mannerisms and opinions about how it's unreasonable to expect good photo quality by comparing snapshots of apes in a zoo or talking about how absolutely wild north america really is, and that he couldn't have come up with a coherent line of thought about anything of the sort if pressed.
This is pure word vomit.

>>5101923
Look at the upload date retard

>>5101923
Based retard

>>5101941
Only if you read at a 3rd grade level.

>>5101602
"its not in the fossil record" is such a bullshit hand-wavy dismissal of shit like this. MOST things are not in the fossil record.
there are less than 400,000 known species we have fossils for. that sounds like a lot, and it is
but right now there are an estimated 8 million species on the planet, and by current estimations, more than 99.9% of all species that have ever lived are extinct.

there are potentially millions upon millions upon millions of species that have existed on this planet we will never have traces of.

>>5101818
>No
....Is what I would say if I was a redditor

If bigfoot isn't real, who keeps stealing my weed?

>>5102020
Which is rather sad to think about as a paleofag. I know you are out there, 40+ feet long 8+ ton abelisaur...

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Bigfoot is real but it's not a flesh and blood animal. it's something closer to a fae being/spirit, but not exactly. these are just the closest things I can approximate it to. Entities like the mothman, the hopkinsville goblins, Sam the Sandown Clown, all of of a similar nature.

People label these entities with things like "alien" or "fairy" or "spirit" or some such because these are the concepts we can closest liken them to, but the reality is all-together more complicated than that. they don't come from other planets or some alternate fairy-dimension through a portal or something like that, they are already here, they are from here, just in angles we cannot usually see, metaphysical blind-spots that may as well not exist to us, in the cracks and crevices of observable reality, only to pop out in specific circumstances.

>>5102024
That's retarded

>>5102025
spoken like someone who cannot rotate a 4 dimensional apple in their head

>>5101511
Dude they got all different kinds of "bigfoot" sightings and encounters throughout history on different continents. I don't think it's far off to think humans at one point killed these fucks off and some kinda drifted for a while in places we couldn't easily access.

>>5102117
It’s more likely that believing in similar supernatural shit is just a human universal, like spirits, Gods, creation stories, etc

>>5101594
>Genuinely intelligent people believe in the abrahamic god despite his archaeological heritage and the chain of plagiarism and lying that created his holy book
Probably because said people understand that is a theory that comes from one book militant internet atheists parrot all the time while demonstrating they have never read the book of judges within OT.

>>5101575
they eat berries and mushrooms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn1w-2bW5j4

>>5102146
No way an ape of that size and sophistication can survive on only berries or mushrooms. Even Gorillas have to subsit on a wider variety of vegetation and despite being largely vegitarian they will opertunistically eat meat sources. Bigfoots would need to eat a baby or two if they existed.

>>5101518
Convenient that as soon as mass surveillance is possible, the creature goes extinct.
I don't think it ever existed.

>>5102138
>help, militant atheists! militant round earthers! militant MMR vaccine shills! my infographics and holy books clearly state they are correct and all who deny them are doomed and evil, ye fools!

>>5102162
Shit happens

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I think bigfoot and dogman should fight

>>5102186
Dogman doesn't exist retard

>>5102187
Then who sucked my dick last night?

>>5102197
Could've been anything that likes peanut butter, probably a regular dog

>>5101582
Yet we have millions of bones from actually real pleistocene megafauna

>>5102020
>but right now there are an estimated 8 million species on the planet
A quarter of which are weevils

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>>5102332
Total weevil supremacy

>>5101511
Boohoo nigger, cry about it on plebbit.

>>5101511
Intelligence is not the same as Wisdom.
Intelligent people can be even more deluded because they can't fathom the idea of them being played.

>>5102331
You should try reading the post you replied to again, slowly this time. Be sure to look up any words you're not 100% certain you understand.

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>>5102349
https://youtu.be/2bEZQ00OOxY?si=YHcGeLlTCP8ybEQe

>>5102022
Wadiyatalkinabeet?

>>5102024
>>5102024
this post is a prime example of how true believers cope with the fact that nobody has collected any better photo or video evidence of any cryptid than the patterson gimlin film since everyone on the planet gained access to an HD camera in their pocket every minute of every day

>>5102728
I think the mythology change from bigfoot being a big intelligent ape, to a 4th dimensional sci-fi entity, is in large part because of the argument of surveillance is so strong. If we are already given that bigfoot is real, but somehow we can't see him even when people are filming him right up his nostril, then surely he has to be some kind of ghost or Lovecraftian entity, or angel, or his fur can activate a cloaking field- why else can't we see what objectively exists; bigfoot.

I enjoyed the Bigfoot story in earlier years the same way I enjoyed Nessie, but I think the desperation in needing evidence for true believers and justifying its absence has kinda stretched the myth to absurdity. I think by the time people say bigfoot's a native american angel, shit's gone too far. I miss when he was a big horny ape in the forest who jerked off to scaring campers.

>>5102730
People like to believe in cryptids, especially bigfoot, so that they can populate the known world with monsters to make it less knowable. It adds a bit of mystery to their lives and gives a sense of purpose in trying to find them. Before smartphones, cheap drones, trail cameras etc. it was still conceivable that there could be a giant ape man living in the woods that was just smart enough to avoid us, but now people who still believe have to cope with theories that bigfoot is an interdimensional shapeshifter, because they don't want to live in a world where everything is mapped out, quantified and known. There is a certain existential dread to knowing that the big mysteries from your childhood don't exist, that the only mysteries that remain are boring scientific or medical ones.

>>5102730
>>5102840
I recommend reading Brian Regal's book "Searching for the Sasquatch", he's an anthropologist who is also a kind of Fox Mulder "I want to believe" type and the book is a mix of a history of bigfoot research and a biography of Grover Krantz, who was probably the most famous scientist who really got into bigfoot research.

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>>5102728
>>5102730
>>5102840
Government and all of academia doesn't believe there are mountain lions in my home town, but us locals see em all the time. If you show a video of one, it's dismissed as a regular house cat or similar. You know what else? Our cameras are awful. Takes a long time to get the phone out and despite all the "advances" with making the cameras better/higher res/whatever, they still never focus on what you want and are grainy out past a dozen feet. Not to mention all the "assistance" the cameras "provide" that mess up the picture. Beyond that, people underestimate the sheer amount of unoccupied land that there is in the united states. The vast majority of it has nobody around for miles, and there are certainly hundreds of stretches that nobody has EVER been in, even to this day. We might grumble and moan about living in a surveillance state but we simply do not have the wilderness on lockdown like so many people erroneously believe.
I mean, I get it, this doesn't prove sasquatch is real. Obviously. But using this idea of "hurr durr everyone has a camera in their pocket now!!!" is just stupid. it's not a good argument, and I don't know why it keeps getting parroted.

>>5102187
People seriously going on podcasts and talking about how they saw a fucking werewolf is one of the most laughable things i have seen in a while

>>5102898
I suspect there's something psychological happening. People all across the world imprint on dogs and see them everywhere, including in people. There's werewolves, but there's also cynocephali. Not to mention furries and their love of wolves. Egyptians, you know, anubis. All sorts of things. It's probably something deeply human to focus on the head and substitute it with something else you know or care about, kind of like how snakes and spiders are something we can all recognize instinctively instead of having to learn about them. Sorta the same deal imo.

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>check up bigfoot reddit because want to check if there are real believers
>some thread about petterson-gimlin video
>"it's physically impossible for a human to walk like that"
>"if a suit that good existed then hollywood would have paid millions for it"
>"you can see the muscles moving"
lol. no idea why people are invested either.

>>5102905
Every "werewolf" sighting ever is just an unshorn Armenian woman. Those are some hairy, hairy bitches.

>>5102922
>>"if a suit that good existed then hollywood would have paid millions for it"
this one's true though, a suit of that quality would have been insanely expensive at the time.

>>5103139
space odyssey monkey looks better

>>5103143
You're being disingenuous from multiple angles.

>>5103145
making a suit with fur on isn't some secret technology that didn't exist back then

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>>5103146

>>5101511
>>5101516
There is more evidence in favor of Bigfoot than against, at this point. The anti-Bigfoot folks are the unintelligent ones that just push goal posts and "nuh uh" no matter what.

>>5101513
Posts like that are good, it's not a human dong that. One can't even get a human down there. They're walking straight up a mountain side. We keep seeing this same thing.

>>5102922
They're invested because humans want the truth and don't want to be lied to/BSd anymore.

>>5103156
there's just a few schizos who have it as their hobby
we already have gorillas who cares

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>>5103139
Hollywood was making better gorilla suits decades earlier you moron. The P-G suit doesn't even have textured soles.

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>>5103165
They're just flat slabs of latex.

>>5101511
>NOOOOOO There are people that believe things I don't believe

>>5103165
>>5103166
Do you have a comparison shot from a contemporary camera? Also can you tell me how much that suit cost at the time? Because I said it was expensive, not unable to be created. I feel adding these supporting details would help your argument greatly, presuming they actually agreed with your stance. Thanks in advance.

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>>5103166
Look at these flat slabs of latex on this obvious human suit here

>>5103159
It's fascinating from the point of discussing human origins and what a human really is.

>>5103159
>we already have gorillas who cares
"why do white people climb mount everest" type post

>>5103172
I can clearly make out toes, arches, and heels here dumbass.

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>>5101598
Because Neanderthals were real and did interact with humans. What's crazy is people act like all these stories of cultures all over the world talking about giants and mysterious super humans teaching people about technology and interbreeding with them is some crazy mystery. When we know that Neanderthals were bigger than humans, had more advanced tech before humans and interbred with humans.

>>5101923
This is why aliens and big foots aren't worried about recorded footage.

Only a brief window of time in our history will recorded footage be seen as reliable proof of anything.

Thanks AI. Thanks India.

>>5103199
on a closer shot using a camera that's easily 100x the resolution, mind you

Why has no one recreated the PG film using technology from the 70's?

>>5103207
Weren't neanderthals shorter than humans? i guess they were bulkier so i could see their size getting exaggerated over the years

>>5103207
>were bigger than humans
only in weight and girth. they were usually shorter than us

>>5103351
>>5103352
seems they were like 10cm shorter but still weighed like 10kg more
definitely no giants but they were quite a bit stronger

>>5103362
unfortunately that additional mass also means additional calories needed. and that's one of the reasons theorized why they died out; their caloric requirements were much more than ours and they couldn't weather times when food was scarce like we could

>>5103391
yeah supposedly the needed twice the calories. so basically homo sapiens could sustain twice the population on same resources.

>>5102896
>But using this idea of "hurr durr everyone has a camera in their pocket now!!!" is just stupid. it's not a good argument, and I don't know why it keeps getting parroted.
Because the average person thinks it's that easy, whip out the phone and press play so you can record the animal that probably already noticed you before you noticed it and is making a b-line for the exit. It's like when you're hiking up a trail and hear sudden rustling noises and catch a brief glimpse of a Deer running from you, likely the same reason why some of the best Bigfoot footage we have is of them already far away trying to get away from us. Even a Bear will avoid a human.
BUT the average person is also equally as dismissive at the times we do get decent photos and recordings of a Sasquatch. So it always ends up being "Why haven't we gotten better photo evidence of a Sasquatch when everyone has phones" and then call whatever modern photo you show them a fake. The average person is probably thinking of high quality camera pics from advertisements and documentaries and equating that to a normal iphone photo, not understanding that even movies that use iphones as cameras still has some other tech strapped onto it to make it better and that picture of a bear was taken professionally and worked to be more clear

>Government and all of academia doesn't believe there are mountain lions in my home town, but us locals see em all the time
I've heard varying reasons for the denial, 1 being that the mountain lions haven't officially migrated back to old territory or that said Academia and Government doesn't want anyone shooting them thus messing up the population. Could also be Lumber corps not wanting to deal with animal habitation rights

>>5103418
>call whatever modern photo you show them a fake.
Because it most likely is. The onus is on you to show it's not.

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>they is out there mane why hasnt no one ever debunked it huh

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>>5103418
>Even a Bear will avoid a human.
And yet we have photos, crisp and clear, of bears. The illusive, solitary, and predatory bear is documented on all manner of cameras, and most people will accept the existence of bears because we can document their existence for hundreds of years. Dragons went away, werewolves went away, but bears didn't go away. You probably know someone who once saw a bear, and you've probably seen a video of someone who had a bear in their yard fucking around, and if you're outdoorsy at all you've likely seen prints, poop, and even heard bears, or you've seen the aftermath of a bear attack. There are people whose entire profession is managing bears.

Yet when Billy Bob says a yeti came and fucked his dog to death and drank all his moonshine before stealing his truck, and running into a police cruiser; that motherfucker somehow had time to paint the bastard with water colours but not snap a picture of it on his phone which adequately captures images with enough detail to make out what something is. Just say he's an alien with cloaking tech that is observing humanity as a wildlife reserve and skip all the justification. There are so many wonderful things in this world, and there are people trying to justify why an upright ape is actually a ghost and that's why he's everywhere all at once but you can never see him.

>>5103421
>here's a photo or video we provide as evidence.
<Ah but you need to prove it's real
>There's no evidence of artifacting from editing or AI use and <the timeline checks out
<Then it's a man in a suit.
>You can't prove it's a man in a suit
<You always have to assume it is.
>>>redditspace
This is the issue we run into, here. It's actually a very understandable one because it comes from 2 separate problems.
>1.) Thinking "evidence" is "proof".
We have a LOT of evidence for sasquatch being real. We also have a lot of evidence of hoaxes. Neither conclusively proves a stance. Evidence is what you bring forward to support your argument, it is not a smoking gun that solves the problem. We need either a body or live specimen to be reviewed by many different people independently accepting it to prove it's true, and until we get that, it can't be proven. A photo never will prove it. So we're arguing what the evidence shows. This leans into the next point.
>2.) If something can't be proven, you have to assume it's wrong.
This is good for theoretical physics, not so much census. You can't simply assume there are no birds in the forest behind your house just because you can't see them. You can't also then claim that there are for certain birds right then right there, of course, but... well you see.
>Conclusion.) Bigfoot skeptics will often fall into the fallacy of claiming any evidence is fake simply because it isn't conclusive.
It's perfectly fine to be skeptical of bigfoot, because we have no conclusive evidence he exists. But it's NOT fine to claim ALL evidence is categorically fake because it's POSSIBLE for it to be fake. You can point to individual photos and say "I think this is fake because of x, y, z" but one does not need to prove any given picture is real for it to be presented as evidence, and just because a photo or video could hypothetically be faked does not mean it was.

>>5103429
>We have a LOT of evidence for sasquatch being real.
the "evidence" is so fucking bad

>>5103426
gorillas were only verified in the scientific literature a little over a hundred and fifty years ago, in 1847. We have had stories of them for thousands of years (just like sasquatch - why is it that gorillas are "well-attested" but sasquatch stories are "clearly myth alone" or similar?) 180 years is not that long of a span of time for there to be a discrepancy in discovery. North America has plenty of hazardous places that no man has ever set foot in and the common belief that most of the world has been logged in a census and that we have accurate information about it. It's simply not true.
>Yet when Billy Bob says a yeti came and fucked his dog to death and drank all his moonshine
you're not interested in actually intellectually engaging with the idea. Conflating obvious malarkey with reasonable testimony is ridiculous. There's been stories of gorillas speaking a language or stealing and raping women. Hell, the romans were told they were animals by their guides and then claimed they were people. Here's a more concrete example: You know that story about dingoes eating a woman's baby? How it was fake, but most people believe it? It's silly to accept every single testimony as being equivalent to one another simply because of the subject matter. I mean seriously dude, do you think that everyone in this thread is all-in on sasquatch, what, esotericism? No, I think there's a funny ape that's afraid of people and is just smart enough to stay far away from us, maybe takes their dead for good measure. I think that's not that far-fetched. Could it be wrong? Sure! Could it be right? Yes, it could be true. We don't know yet. But we DO get a lot of videos and photos and reports and claims of them every year, more than most any cryptid, and some of them seem pretty compelling. So we'll just have to see. Isn't that reasonable? Doesn't that sound level-headed and a simple difference of opinion instead of some crackpot theory?

>>5103430
Let's start with this one:
>>5101513
I haven't seen it before entering this thread. I haven't done any research on it. Tell me why you think it's bad evidence. I don't mind if there's something obvious I'm missing on a cursory view, this is just a start. Go ahead.

>>5103438
wow there's a pixel moving

>>5103439
look if you're going to be disingenuous you can just go ahead and call me a flat earther or something

>>5103440
look, no one cares about debunking this shit
you guys go crazy about any literal garbage footage so there's a lot of incentive to fake it for attention

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>>5103434
Firstly
>You're arguing in bad faith
Yes, I am exaggerating because actual evidence is
>"We were walking down the trail, when we saw what looked like a really tall chimp, and it looked at us, and it walked away on two legs into the forest. No we did not do drugs, no we do not have a history in faking things for fame and fortune."
Which, alright, that's one pip in the "Exists" category, but that doesn't make up for the mountains of evidence for "Against" category ranging from poop, scent, mapping of territory, fossil history, demographic placement, and so on and so on. It's not on the same level of equivalency, at all. Even if Billy Bob never existed, and we both know there's a million of that type of person contaminating any 'serious' discussion, then we're not tossing a coin; the evidence is overwhelmingly 'against'.

>Gorillas
Alright, gorillas is a good example. But would-be explorers weren't lost for clue, they knew of a thing called X, in location Y, according to bumpkins in location Z. If you went and talked to the relevant people, the relevant experts, they could indeed confirm that gorillas existed. So lo and behold when you go to Y you find X, and you dispel rumours at home for glorious western science. But gorillas weren't an unknown quantity to the locals, it's not that one guy in Gorilla Gorge was swearing gorillas existed while all his friends and family thought he'd been hitting the juice too hard. It was unknown to the scientific community of Europe, an obscene distance away in a world where phones did not yet exist. That's different from the year 2026 when you can contact an expert within seconds of looking them up on an information field that covers the entire planet, give or take.

>Dingo
Dingos existing was not in dispute. Dingos eating human remains was not in dispute. Dingos conceptually eating a child was in dispute. The story is most relevant because of the legal dispute of whether a dingo ate this specific baby.

wordcountgoodnight

>>5103429
><Ah but you need to prove it's real
...are you brain-damaged? The burden of proof is on YOU. You are the one that needs to prove your faggoty image is an actual real bigfoot. As the tech for faking shit continues to get better by the month, the probability that something is fake only goes up.

Didn't read the rest of your gay post.

>>5103426
>And yet we have photos, crisp and clear, of bears
We have a nice crisp and clear photo of a Skunk Ape, video footage of a Sasquatch carrying it's young, footage of a Bigfoot shaking and breaking down a tree, etc etc
>Yet when Billy Bob says a yeti came and fucked his dog to death and-
But that doesn't matter because you'll just say it's a fake and be done with it

The fun thing about real things is that its not about believing. Either you know about it, or you don't.
But imagine trying to argue with urbanites that couldnt tell a hawk from a kite whats out in true wilderness. kek

>>5103446
Cute photo

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>>5103494
1\7

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>>5103501
2\7

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lions, aka squat bigfoot

>>5103510
thats clearly a guy in a catsuit
you can even see the zipper

>>5103528
No that's me in a catsuit and I'm a bigfoot, you can see my big feet where better pornography and naughty films are sold.

>>5103452
why did you not understand what he said? The photo isn't the proof, it's evidence. You don't need evidence to unanimously prove the quandary it's providing proof for. Like, you're in a courtroom, a guy pulls out a gun, says here you see it has gunpowder residue showing it was shot, it was found in this room. This is evidence a shooting occured in that room. It doesn't prove that it happened, it's just evidence. Because that's what evidence is lol

>>5103539
Oh my god it's fucking real

>>5103438
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>>5101513
Brother, it's literally just a guy walking around in the distance. You can't see what it is because it's miles away and there's zero reason to believe it's anything but a human. All the effort people have gone to in order to fake shit like this and you really can't believe someone could walk around in the mountains? This is why no one takes you guys seriously; you're so desperate to believe that you'll accept the absolute flimsiest "evidence" as concrete proof.

>Tell me why you think it's bad evidence.
How about you tell me why I should believe that video is anything other than a person?

The real nail in the coffin of this and other supposed wildlife cryptos is the existence of remote cameras. There are countless game cameras set up all over the country in all sort of remote locations, stuck up on a tree and filming 24/7. If anything were out there, not just bigfoot but any of the other shit supposedly running around in the woods, we'd have very clear footage of it by now.

The only attempted cope I've ever seen is nonsense claims like
>oh well bigfoot and other cryptos are all hyper sensitive to electromagnetic fields and can tell exactly where a tail cam is and where it's pointing and they make sure to avoid ever being filmed because they're all also super intelligent and fully understand what a camera is and why it would be a bad idea to let themselves be filmed (i guess they've also learned a lot of human society while hiding in the woods)

>>5102896
>The vast majority of it has nobody around for miles, and there are certainly hundreds of stretches that nobody has EVER been in, even to this day.
The reason why old growth forests don't exist in the U.S. outside of a few tiny isolated areas in the Northwest is because literally every inch of the country has not just been explored but has had all of the trees cut down. Not only have people been to those "hundreds of stretches:, they've been there and cut down every tree in sight.

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>>5103539
The biggest tell it's fake is the fact it has no butt cheeks, just a completely blank pad.

>>5103582
>and there's zero reason to believe it's anything but a human. All the effort people have gone to in order to fake shit like this
so you're assuming it's illegitimate because it's possible for it to be illegitimate. Even though based on the context it makes 0 sense for a person to be there or even be able to be there and do what it does.

>>5103583
>The reason why old growth forests don't exist in the U.S. outside of a few tiny isolated areas in the Northwest i
wtf are you talking about 45% of the US is entirely uninhabited, dude. And that's "entirely", as in not counting transit routes. That's a lot of land.

>>5103590
see here's something that's a legitimate argument. There's nothing that can be said as a counter other than "maybe squatch doesn't have prominent buttcheeks or something" which would be pretty weird, admittedly, for a biped especially.

>>5103582
Bigfoots are angels, and angels HATE cameras. This is a well-known angel fact. Also, pointing the tail camera anywhere but the tail is breaking TOS.

What if aliens are hiding them from us? What if they’re on some hidden alien-run preserve?

>guy literally lived off making bigfoot books and newsletters
>"why would he fake it"
lol

>>5103590
gorilla

>>5103626
Who are you referring to

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>>5103653

>doesn't believe in bigfoot

>>5103654
Did he write anything else prior to the film?

>>5103597
>wtf are you talking about 45% of the US is entirely uninhabited
It may be now but it hasn't always been. What you're suggesting is that people came though an area, clear cut it, and the area was mysteriously repopulated by bigfoots afterwards. I can see that this is new information for you so I'd suggest you go look up the definition of "old growth forest", which areas of the U.S. qualify as such, and why those forests are so small and few in number.

>so you're assuming it's illegitimate because it's possible for it to be illegitimate.
I'm assuming it's illegitimate because there's no reason for it to be legitimate. I'm sure you've heard this before but it's said that exceptional claims require exceptional evidence. If I see a video of a man walking in the distance then I'll assume that's what it is unless I'm given a compelling reason to believe otherwise.

>Even though based on the context
Which context is that?

>it makes 0 sense for a person to be there or even be able to be there
Your explanation for the two guys filming? Does it not make 0 sense for them to be there or even be able to be there?

>and do what it does.
What is it doing, exactly, aside from walking at around 4 mph?

>>5101511
>all the evidence against
such as?

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>it was pitch dark but these eyes ain't lying i know what i saw and i tell you he's out there and why has no one replicated the suit?

>>5103672
>What is it doing, exactly, aside from walking at around 4 mph?
Go watch it again. Take note of how much ground is covered in under 3 minutes. There's 3 feet of snow MINIMUM in that ravine. Not even the most experienced hiker is flying through that fast. Not to mention all the gear he probably has on.

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I've seen it
with me own eyes

>>5103659
NTA but another thing about that book is that there was a depiction of the creature drawn in the book with female breasts, just like Patty in the film, which believers point to and say “why would someone take the time to make breasts on an ape costume?” well, we know he already conceived of the idea beforehand, and also maybe he was just a weird perv

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>>5101511
First of all, how do we even know that Bigfoot is a hominid? Maybe it evolved from canines or felines.

>>5103752
Because it is very clearly described as an ape and there is no precedence for those animals becoming bipeds

>>5103751
This can also just be interpreted as the females indeed having breasts.

>>5103734
>he he he
New anon, just watched the film.
I dont think the black dot is bipedal at all.
I think it is something like an elk that is just walking away from the camera, so you never get a good look at how long it is, and mistake that length for height.

>>5102896
Actual biology academic here, the reason you are not. "believed" isn't because we don't think they are there, It's that proving it takes a lot of time and effort and most importantly money. We don't do research pro bono, and often have to pay our own travel costs. One thing most people don't realize is universities and employers are greedy fucking bastards and will only ever hand out research grants if they get something out of it. And monitoring animal range growth and contraction isn't glamorous or prestigious, and the risk that the photos of Wolves or Cougars are just strays makes it incredibly hard to justify to them.

You are right in that cameras in the vast majority of cases are unreliable, but in the case of Bigfoot if it was indeed an animal you would expect there to be so many sightings and photographs that it would be hard to ignore the sheer amount of proposed photos of it. Think of it like this, how many Americans annually hike in the wilderness or national parks and encounter a deer, bear elk ext? Over the entire country, now imagine the same for a large 6-12ft bipedal ape and the fact most people have at phone to at least take a low quality photo of it. Since its a Bigfoot most of them will probably be inclined to post it to social media. at the same if not higher rate than people post photos of more well known animals like bears and deer.

You don't see that same pattern.

>>5103680
>why has no one replicated the suit?
That is a good question tho. I don't even believe in bigfoot but why hasn't anyone recreated the PG film to get bigfoot people to shut the fuck up?

>>5103964
Being unable to find bigfoot is like being unable to find hill folk… and not die

The only plausible explanation is that bigfoot is a recently derived human. Homo sapiens: electric boogaloo. And we can remain hidden for our entire lives by killing those who find us and being just a guy in the distance otherwise.

Scat, bones, and hair would all be undeniably human. Maybe ugly and mistaken for old native american men.

>>5103968
>Bigfoot can be mistaken for an ugly man
At that point what separates him from just being any old coot in the woods?
>Bigfoot kills all witnesses
Clearly he doesn't because people keep finding the guy in the woods and posting vlogs about it.

>>5103968
>we

>someone saw a big monkey in the woods
>it was completely bipedal, highly aware, and clearly intelligent
>it had no tail and a humanlike gait
>according to them it actively tries not to be seen
>dna found in streams was human
>hair was human mixed with other animals (what animal wears other animals skin and hair? does anyone know?)
>only alleged audio recording just sounds like burly inuit men shouting, hoax or not
>best alleged footage looks like a 7ft tall (carnivore diet chad) fur clad man who is a very, very experienced snowshoer
Bigfoot fags have just been seeing things ranging from the last of the reclusive ultra inbred injuns to unshaven homeless men wearing furs

Homo sapiens is the only primate to ever inhabit north america. Migrations range from 300 years to 130,000 years ago. There are human today who go their entire lives in the woods rarely being seen by others, and there is no reason to doubt there ever weren’t before.

>>5103970
>At that point what separates him from just being any old coot in the woods?
Absolutely fucking nothing because humans couldn’t possibly speciate in 130k years. At no point has bigfoot been distinguishable from a hobo. It is unidentified people. Maybe there was a small tribe of ridiculously hairy people but remember, humans often wear fur.

Bigfoot is real, but “bigfoot” isn’t real, it’s just misidentified forest vagrants and native americans and has been for as long as people have been telling stories about wildmen.

There is literally only one intelligent, bipedal primate that is capable of actively avoiding discovery and every photo taken of it clearly shows a man wearing furs.

>>5103967
why should anyone care about convincing some irrelevant retards?

>>5101511
Wait, so there's guy who's in to bigfoot that has a phonetically identical name to bob Gimlin of the Patterson-Gimlin film? What are the chances?

>>5103797
wasn't it walking left-right at first?

>>5103977
It's a guy on youtube who just named his channel that, retard.

>>5103977
I think he said that his name made him interested in the film because of the similarity to his own, and I think that makes some sense

>>5103976
It would be funny to see their cope

>>5101511
what a cry baby

>>5103996
Yes he is indeed a baby

>>5103998
What the fuck i apologize, i am too sleepy and thought i was on the Punch thread

>>5103979
There was no point in that vid that had me convinced it could NOT be a quadruped.
But let's assume it was.
The other "salient fact" is "what is that guy doing way out there?"
Well...what were the people filming doing way out there?
If THEY were there, I dont see why it would be strange at all for a human to be there.

>>5104045
I was trying to find the exact peak there were on to see if they were on a trail but I can't understand what he says "Try penny peak"? or something. If they were on some sort of unofficial trail it would be far more reasonable, imo, because then the difference would be a designated walking path vs a hostile snowbank, like being in the middle of a river vs on its side. But, sadly, I couldn't figure that out. Strange that there's no coords provided.

>>5104048
Coords would be a pretty big influencer on my skepticism. I'm more likely to accept an unknown hominid in the Himalayas than I am in the Rockies.
And really the issue is accepting this as proof of Bigfoot suddenly means the guy in Mobile Alabama thinks he is vindicated he saw Bigfoot down by the gas station.
I mean, if this is Colorado, I'm going to need something to push me past
>schizo who decided to leave society and had the skills to survive and thus reasonably chose a place way out in the fuck of nowhere in the mountains - wearing a lot of furs and snow shoes

>>5103590
Could be that their hair is shaggier than a gorilla's and thus it covers the cheeks

>>5103964
>Actual biology academic here,
>doesn't know about DNA
makes me laugh every time

Bigfoot isn't real but I wish he was. I wish I could go chill with one in the woods and wordlessly share a handful of berries at a lakeside.

Imagine not KNOWING bigfoot is real in the year 2026

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>>5104463
I know right? Only an npc would still doubt bigfoot's existence at this point.

>>5104329
>go hiking/camping in squash area
>leave some fruit, nuts, jerky or similar on a stump
>tell them its a gift
>come by on the way out
if one of them took it, you'll likely find a nice rogg, feather or something similar where you left the food. take it and say thanks.
dont do this where you live, unless you want it to become a mandatory obligation. theyll see it as a kind of contract and can get salty if you stop

>>5105008
It's very creepy how close this folklore is to ape behavior. It is advised to not give them food because they will never have enough and will keep asking for it, and, when you don't have any food left, they get violent

>>5105025
you know there’s only ever been one ape in north america, right? homo sapiens

>>5105027
When did i say that is not the case

>>5101511
His early videos on Bigfoot were really interesting, now he seems to be making stuff up and struggling to find content.

>>5105246
youtubers doing anything "mystery" related often end up like that

>>5105246
He now believes in paranormal bigfoot which is fucking retarded and has made me lose interest in his videos

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>>5105246
He's always done non-bigfoot videos but they were sparse and in between but Bob's since gone through the more interesting and credible Bigfoot topics so he's veering into more topics about Aliens, Animal attacks and Ghosts
>Whole video about how Chris Watt's Pregnant Wife and Children he murdered are possibly haunting the house they lived in

>>5105319
>Whole video about how Chris Watt's Pregnant Wife and Children he murdered are possibly haunting the house they lived in
Holy shit that one was terrible. Easily his worst video yet

>>5105327
why are you even watching this shit in the first place?

>>5105333
Are you an insect? Entertainment is viewed for entertainment purposes. It's no different from watching a film, reading a book, or more accurately, listening to an audiobook. Don't tell me mystery or paranormal stories haven't been popular for centuries.

>>5105345
>"i hate this garbage slop"
>*watches it*

>>5105348
I'm not him, I'm just commenting on your dumb statement. whe he LITERALLY said was
>That was terrible
>His worst video yet
That means this was his least favorite video that gymlan had made. That doesn't mean he thinks the rest of the videos are ALL bad. In fact, even if he hasn't liked several recent ones, if he had been enjoying the others for years it makes sense to keep watching to see if any new ones are good for a while. This is something we in the industry call "normal human behavior".

>>5103744
The virgin walk vs the chad stride...

>>5105349
all his videos suck

>>5105351
Your opinion on the videos is completely irrelevant to the point either of us were making, Sally-Anne.

>>5105319
>through the more interesting and credible Bigfoot topics
I did a whole bunch of research about bigfoot for a youtuber to cover (he never ended up doing it, fuck him) and there actually isn't a lot of content to cover.
Yeah there are tons of stories of "I saw a big thing in the woods" but actual interesting stories or photos are minimal. I even purposely looked for the wacky paranormal shit and there isn't a lot of that either.

My conclusion after all of it is that bigfoot isn't real, it's a cultural icon that was created in the 1950s around the time gorillas and the yeti were a popular thing in movies and comics. Native Americans didn't actually have mythology about bigfoot but they assimilated it and then bigfootologists used it as proof (citogenesis). Keep in mind these tribal elders were little kids when bigfoot and the yeti and all this shit were everywhere in media and pop culture.

>>5105333
I enjoy his videos on animals

>>5105355
>Native Americans didn't actually have mythology about bigfoot but they assimilated it and then bigfootologists used it as proof (citogenesis).
a lot of native americans do have stories of things that are kinda-sorta bigfoot-esque though, a slant rhyme type deal. But they could easily be derived from simple "enemy tribe bad, they like animal! they animal man! don't go outside at night unless you want be raped and eaten by big scary animal men!" stories.

>>5101511
I hope you non believer faggots never have to come face to face with one of these things

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>>5105360
>stories of things that are kinda-sorta bigfoot-esque though
Yeah but with the same logic you can say bigfoot exists in Europe because of wildmen myths like pic rel. It isn't exactly that hard to come up with "human, but hairy". The actual first story that was more ape than man was the William Roe encounter in 1955

Trey the explainer has a good video about it I'll admit, but he's a tranny and does that condescending MUH POOR INDIGENOUS FOLX MUH CULTURAL APROPRIATION spiel

>>5105365
God Trey is so fucking insufferable

>>5105365
that's kinda what I said right after, where it's easily pulled from vagueries. Not like europe doesn't also have bigfoot-type "cryptids" all the same, even if they're only retroactively applied to sasquatch tendencies. You know, like the almas.

I mean, if bigfoot ever existed, it sure as fuck don't now. If it ain't getting no bigfootussy there ain't gonna be no littlefoot

>>5105389
Can you type that again but in english?

>>5105360
If Bigfoot is real I wouldn't be surprised if Native American's viewed Bigfoot as just another tribe of men and treated them as such

>>5105604
I coudl see that. If we assume what is said about bigfoot is accurate and the alleged video and photo evidence is real then the thing looks more like a big Australopithecus than any ape we have today. I could see someone not informed in primatology assuming they are just hairy humans.

>>5105365
Treys video in 'the native bigfoot' was horseshit because he'd keep going "hm hm hrm, in THIS story, the sasquatch TALKS, so it must not be about a sasquatch, actually"
as if talking animals aren't a staple in folklore.
it's like going "well in this "Goldilocks and the three bears" story, the bears talk and live in a houses. obviously bears don't talk or live in houses, so the creatures in this story must not be bears but some mythical made-up creature in their folklore."

>>5105745
Trey being retarded as usual

>>5101511
Bigfoot hands wrote this post.
I just know, ya know.