>Is mining profitable?
>Why should I mine?
See: https://moneroj.net/hashvsprice/
This chart shows that mining makes XMR more valuable by making the network more secure and more expensive to attack. If you have an interest in increasing the value of XMR, consider mining.

>Pools
https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero
Note: qubic.org is a malicious pool that does NOT payout in XMR.

>Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
>CPU benchmarks
https://xmrig.com/benchmark
>Profit calculators
https://iwillsolo.com/monero/
https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/monero/calculator
Note: the hash rates on xmrig.com are more accurate

>I'm rich and want a dedicated mining device
Antminer X5
Hashrate: 212000 H/s
Power draw: 1350 W
Cost: ~$2800, Doesn't include shipping costs
Hashes per $: ~70
By far the most powerful miner on the market. There's no official bitmain support for this device; you're on your own for updates/repairs

>I'm poor and want a dedicated mining device
MINISFORUM 795S7
Hashrate: 19250 H/s
Power draw: 142 W
Cost: $607 shipped
Hashes per $: 32
As of 2025 it's the best bang for your buck. No room for upgrades, though.

>On P2Pool
Mining in P2Pool is easier than ever with Gupax:

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, or your own node
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

>DUE TO BOTNETS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!

>Can I use my GPU too?
Yes. MoneroOcean mines GPU-shitcoins, sells them, and pays you out in XMR. To get started, visit the help page on:
https://moneroocean.stream/

>IF MINING ON MONEROOCEAN MAKE SURE YOU'RE USING MO-XMRig TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS

Remember, the value of any currency is in it's acceptance.

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://xmrbazaar.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/?t=service&q=&xmr=on

>Shop on Amazon with XMR!
https://monezon.com
https://peershop.app

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards
https://coincards.com/

>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Anonymous burner phone numbers
https://silent.link/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.vegas/

>Store XMR securely!


>Darknet vendors for more exotic goods and services
# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Asur Market
>Babylon #
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
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>Whales Market #
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/fF95wTNi

Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/pbCycXsC

or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app
https://orangefren.com
https://eigenwallet.org
https://basicswapdex.com

Or retoswap, an XMR-centric fork of Bisq
https://retoswap.com/


>Want to support further development?
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/


>Want more organic Monero-chan?
https://www.monerochan.art/

>>61881327
>Does anyone have that investment fund paper that speculated on XMR's price through like 2038? It used to get posted in these threads pretty often.
interested in this too

>>61881576
It would be better if Monero-chan was White in the picture.
I would imagine her ethnically Spanish. That goes well with the Esperanto name.

I see tutorials on how to get GUI wallet when you have Ledger, but how about the other way around? Connecting Ledger to a GUI wallet you already have?

Thank you for baking OP

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>>61881960
The closest thing I have is this

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lol

Price isn't budging.

>>61882504
>Connecting Ledger to a GUI wallet you already have?
Just pay the 2 cents to send it to your ledger wallet. Even if it were possible to add your potentially compromised keys to a device meant to keep your keys uncompromised, it would be a dumb thing to do.

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Posting Monero-chan in the XMR thread on the anime website!

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>>61884258
cute!

>>61883847
If you're not weak and don't abuse drugs you can use amphetamines forever without issues.
Most drugs are useful chemical tools and have their uses, but they have a bad image because weak people abuse them and ruin them for the rest of us.

>>61881576
Monero-chan has worms.

>>61886012
real?

>>61884225
I thought you needed a third party wallet in tandem with ledger? I have one so I have been meaning to download monero wallet on my pc so I could link it to my nano S plus

>>61886053
>I thought you needed a third party wallet in tandem with ledger? I have one so I have been meaning to download monero wallet on my pc so I could link it to my nano S plus

Correct. You'll create the wallet on the ledger by adding it on the app, then import the view key to the GUI wallet
See
https://support.ledger.com/article/360006352934-zd.

>>61886080
Thanks. I got one other question for you XMaRines. Any reason not to do USDC for trocador swap? Always see some coin recommended BTC/LTC, wasn’t sure if that was just preference or if there’s higher fees/worse conversion rate/higher risk with USDC. Thanks in advance

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>>61886094
The system blocks my post, I don't know what word is blocked.

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Taking the El Salvador approach
Buying 1 XMR every single week

cripple fingers

Canada is being punished for stealing everyone's TradeOgre balances.

fucking stable coin

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getting this but im kinda worried the difficulty is going to go through the roof

>>61887643
>X9
It's a tarp

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0DpfAeyZYM

>>61887643
How much do you pay for electricity?

Xmr Bros, what are your thoughts on Xelis and Salvium? Xelis recently launched smart contracts and a dex with confidential assets and salvium is gettting close to being able to mint assets as well.

does anyone have a diagram of the xmr make it stack? it showed how much xmr you'd need to be at different levels. like how much to be a knight, a lord, a serf, etc.

>>61888194
Never heard of it, never saw it accepted anywhere.
What's the use case?

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wait so monero is gonna hard fork? this means coins duplicate, right? does that mean my entire portfolio duplicates?

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>>61888555

i just read what the jewish developers have planned for monero and its pretty heartbreaking, the viewkey shit will genuinely kill the coin.

if you dont have the technology to let people see your spending history then all coins are dirty, meaning there all clean and exchanges cant differentiate between the two. if this update comes around and gives you the "option" to let you give exchanges the power to see see your entire transaction history then it dosent become optional it becomes MANDATORY if you want to do buisness with exchanges, swaps, trades, selling.. buying...

what a retarded decision? arent we supposed to be privacy above all? what the fuck are we doing here? hello??

if this is something 100% confimred and nothing will change it im swapping everything i have to BTC. at that point there wont be much of a difference anyway

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>>61888996
>View keys are le bad
No. We had this discussion 3 years ago back when it was still called Seraphis
https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ubvvql/seraphis_view_keys_threat_to_fungibility/

All of these concerns boil down to pic related

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>>61889053
are you a jewish shill or something...? being able to generate proof for single transactions is much different than having a key that lets anyone with it see your entire fucking transaction history, how much you were sent, what time you got it, how much you spent, and what time you spent it, as well as the value of your entire account balence, over the lifetime of your entire wallet...

and why even make this change anyway...? for what purpose? even if it was already possible to generate proofs for single transactions, why make it 10000x easier for exchanges and swaps to do so? do you not see how this will become the standard so exchanges can easily make sure your coins "arent bad". please give me one upside for this change.

>>61889027
no, the entire coin is compromised, in august there making a hard fork that lets you anyone with your view key see your entire transaction history, it lets them when you recieved money, when you sent money, and your entire account balance. effectively ending a good portion of moneros privacy. this shit is honestly heartbreaking and i dont know why the devs would think having the ability to share your account balance with anyone is a good idea. im a 4 digit holder in monero and if this shit is set in stone im liquidating my entire portfolio before march

>>61889100
>liquidating my entire portfolio before march
be sure to sell on retoswap

>>61888996
Kill your self

>>61888791
Yes but since everyone adopts the new fork by mining consensus no one will mine the old fork and no one will recognize it.

>>61888996
The view key won't change anything, just like the current view key has no impact whatsoever.

You tried this fud several times before and no one bit.

>>61889100
>waaaah you can choose to disclose information if you want
Yeah just like you already could with screenshots, private keys, view keys, etc.
This changes nothing.

>They still try the view key fud
At this point we should have an infographic to btfo them in a single post

built a crash game that runs on XMR, no registration, just generate a key and play. xmrcrash.xyz provably fair if anyone wants to check the algo

>>61889962
Cool project.
Why need an account, a key, and ten conf when monero.vegas does it accountless and with zero conf? Is there technical limitations for that?

>>61890017
>Cool project.
Thanks, i appreciate it.

The key isn't really an account, its just your session token so your balance persists across visits.

>zero conf

I've lowered the confirmations to 0. Thanks for pointing it out. It makes sense for smaller payments.

Monero is slowly hitting the mainstream... loading more bags https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqSj41VXfws&pp=0gcJCaIKAYcqIYzv

>>61890099
I deposited, I played, I lost.
It was fun. I'm not a gambler but the process was smooth.

>>61890252
Thanks for playing, glad you had fun. If there is anything that bugs you in your future visits, just let me know.

>>61890119
kino

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>>61881576
Thoughts on using cold wallet ( nano x)
? I wanna put my money on monero and forget it . (50k euro+)

How do I get an xmr as a complete retard, pls help

>MONEY WILL FLOW into our asset that cant be easily bought anywhere and is banned all over. 2 more years

>>61891388
trocador.app
orangefren.com
>>61890737
generate a key offline, send monero to that address
fuck a 3rd party device

>>61881576
Can yall make a Monero chan out of that raccoon girl from the Olympics

No fucking way. First link I click, monezon.com does not fucking work.
You most pages and pages of stupid shit, I find the one thing anyone would care about with a currency-buying and selling- and it doesn't work. I told you months ago, you still post broken links.
No trust.

>>61891881
chill. the site has been down, heres some alternatives
https://monerica.com/businesses/proxy-shopping

>>61888996
It's already been said but I also want to tell you to kill yourself

>>61889733
A flowchart should suffice

>View keys can be abused and compromise privacy!

>Does the monero protocol share your private view key by default?
>No
>Skill issue

>Yes
>Are you lying?

>Yes
>Skill issue

>No
>Yes you are
>Skill issue

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>>61891388
>How do I get an xmr as a complete retard, pls help

ah, the age old monero general thread

>tower of monero-babel >>61888983
>what came afterwards...
this is not a flex.

>>61889100
they cant answer you, never will. this is a bot board designed to promote monero. a few anons have been banned for weeks for questioning the hard fork in here. to say its not weird would be to lie. theyve even set up those new ip-monitors working with dod and palan-tear, not to stop vpn posters, but to make a list of dissidents. those new addresses you need to allow through ublock? thats the ones.

>>61889509
a large chunk will not migrate to new fork, mark my words. the devs have new owners and privacy conscious anons notice these things.

you can argue, but hes right about the new key situation. no way around it. aspergers deleting "fud threads" wont stop anons noticing it either.

>>61889733
why havent you? why havent any of you? some anon dug up a post from years ago to prove the hard fork is safe, but how many were banned here and on subreddits for even asking? the fact that this thread is up day in day out speaks volumes about who is behind it.

>>61894471
>banned for weeks for questioning the fork
Never happened, you're a bot schizo

>new ip monitor for the DoD
Never happened, you're a bot schizo

>a large chunk will not migrate to the new fork
Won't happen, all pools will and there is no group of individuals miners that they they won't, you're a bot schizo

>the devs have new owners
They don't, you're a bot schizo

>deleting fud threads
Never happened, you're a bot schizo

>the fact that this thread is up day in day out speaks volumes about who is behind it
It doesn't, you're a bot schizo

You can be safely ignored. All you do is lie and make baseless claims.

>>61882059
How do you figure? Esperanto was invented in what's now Poland.

>>61894650
Haven't investigated it but Esperanto sounds really inspired by romance languages and Spanish to my ear.
It sure doesn't look like Polish lol.

>>61894657
The words are mostly from Romance languages (though more so from French, Italian, and Latin than from Spanish), but the sound system and grammar have some Slavic influences.

>they cant answer you, never will.

>some anon dug up a post from years ago to prove the hard fork is safe


I swear some people will never admit that they were wrong

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>>61894647
bzzzzzttt bzzzzttttt
>>61894723
you didnt quote me. very rude. but i cant expect much for sources in this general other than i dreamed it or read the source code yourself, as if everyone who browses japanese basket weaving forums can also code. still waiting on that dev response btw that was promised to other anons. maybe blogbot above will post it. he never sleeps.

>>61882059
perhaps youre mixing up epseranto with encanto, the disney movie? sounds spanish to me too. american by chance?

>>61890017
Update: added auto cashout and live chat.

>>61894471
>but how many were banned here and on subreddits for even asking?
Your people weren't banned for asking, you were banned for repeatedly spamming about it and repeatedly claiming you haven't gotten any answers. This happened both on here and on your favorite platform. Then people with the same exact rhetoric and arguments came and shilled some random shitcoin. So if we don't assume malice you:
1. Didn't do any research
2. Didn't look at any of the sources we linked
3. Didn't accept any answer not reliant on the above mentioned sources
4. Claim the solution is to invest some other project that recently got (((relisted))) but is a downgrade in every possible metric.
So if you truly were not acting out of malice you simply were both too dumb and too stubborn to be tolerated. If you're not acting out of malice, why are you still arguing against the devs (not even the code) because of you and your cohort not finding the solutions which were publicly available for years? Just admit that you were wrong and a bit too cautious and stop bringing up this topic. We don't need to appease fudders.

>>61882059
Monero-chan must be racially ambiguous due to her anonymous nature. Not in the way mutts are but simply so we can't tell. That's why she should stay 2D.

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Here's another gem from kayaba on this view key subject from the same thread posted >>61889053

>>61894836

>Just admit that you were wrong and a bit too cautious and stop bringing up this topic.

I don't think they can. It seems very obvious to me that they're employed by an interested party that would hate having a really easy way to show proof of reserves to the public: exchanges.
It'll be interesting to see what the excuses will be from exchanges once view balance keys are live, and Kraken races to post theirs on reddiit/X.

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>>61894836
ill sum up 1-3, youre just calling average monero users with questions, "stupids."
>idk what 4 is going on about. that BBBY or XRP shit thats always on the catalog?

>you simply were both too dumb and too stubborn to be tolerated. lets add this guy in here too>>61894920
*yawn* the classic i dont want to answer answers. the good ole circle jerk of two paid agents going "yea, haha, write that, it looks, good... okay ill pretend to answer it in a mocking manner! lol thatll get em!"

>>61894852
this is a prime example of derailment and aspergers at its finest. the "this doesnt change with seraphis, dont give out your view key" issue is a non issue. the mocking tone is throughout the post. the issue is that giving the keys out now provides more info about you than it did before. his entire argument spirals into it being a "user is retarded issue," and mirrors the attitudes here, not that i care what redditors think in general.

my favorite part that they tout now is the "we're adding the OVK's so that you know that you did, in fact, donate to charity, and can now prove you did!" line. gayest shit ever. as if we dont know we fucking clicked send after scanning the other persons QR code. its not "THE TOOL" the gov will use, but its a step in that direction and no one here can deny it.

its being promoted as a way of showing people what you and they did, and more about what you/they did, while at the same time people questioning its efficacy are being told to not use it and we're stupid for doing so (followed by bans.)

such a step in the right direction. (reddit paragraph spacing provided so you can read it.)

>>61895000
>ill sum up 1-3, youre just calling average monero users with questions, "stupids."
No, if you can't find sources on your own, then claim you're just asking questions and getting mad over your questions being answered you're either stupid or not acting in good faith. The average Monero user isn't fudding about view keys.
>>idk what 4 is going on about. that BBBY or XRP shit thats always on the catalog?
Oh come on, you've been here the entire time to notice anons asking questions but don't know the shitcoin they spammed? You know what they all claimed they were banned for right? It wasn't the 'questions' but their shilling for some unmaintained fork.
>*yawn* the classic i dont want to answer answers.
We already answered your questions multiple times. See >>61889053, >>61809820 and >>61761926 and pretty much most of my posts (don't worry, you'll figure out which anon I am) in the last couple of generals. If you have any new questions please let me know. If not, they have been answered already.
>(reddit paragraph spacing provided so you can read it.)
Says the guy who cried about being banned from the subreddit lol

>>61894852
>"Monero’s privacy model historically means no one, not even the wallet owner in the protocol, has a built-in way to expose outgoing details. Once a standard mechanism exists to show history, refusing becomes socially or legally interpretable as concealment, not technical limitation."

XMR loses its privacy-first model

>>61895000
>>61895000
>this is a prime example of derailment and aspergers at its finest.
Yes it is, especially since people were here crying for weeks for a direct quote from a ReEeL DæV that the new fork was safe
And yet here you are still sperging

>>61895174
>Monero’s privacy model historically means no one, not even the wallet owner in the protocol, has a built-in way to expose outgoing details.
This has never been true. View keys have been a part of Monero since 2014 and are a key part of how it works

I have one whole monero

>>61894471
>for even asking
You asked a question
You got an answer
You didn't like/didn't read the answer or it wasn't convenient for your real purpose here
>causing infighting and/or shilling some shitcoin
You pretended you didn't get an answer
You asked a question
(repeat)

This is the actual sequence of events.

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>>61895470
Your posting style is a bit jewish friend

>>61896075
>So users don't have to sacrifice privacy if they don't want to
Seems like we're all on the same page

>>61888996
Truth nuke

They're trying to compromise monero
This general is obviously already compromised with the 'monerochan', promoting hardware wallets, etc.

It actually explains why this general is so slow with what it used to be. Activity here only gets triggered when the kike shills need to reply to genuine discourse, otherwise it's crickets lol

>>61895000
>the mocking tone is throughout the post.
You deserve to be mocked. Nobody has a problem with the tone. It is well deserved.

There is no problem with CARROT at all. There is no loss of privacy at all, unless you specifically choose to broadcast it. You can decide to do that right now. You can livestream your own transactions. You can post your seed phrase if you want. Take a screenshot and show everyone your entire history. Other people using view keys doesn't compromise your privacy even 0.00000000001%.

Your argument makes literally zero sense and there isn't a SINGLE reason for it other than your retarded concern trolling. And given the complete lack of any support for your concern trolling, it's safe to assume anyone arguing against CARROT is doing so in bad faith.

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>>61894647
but this... did happen, people posted about the problems the hard fork would cause on the reddit and instead of debating the mods just deleted all the complaints... WTF?

so far the responses to hard fork complaints are just

>your crazy
>people being able to see youe entire account balance and any transaction you will make in the future CHANGES NOTHING!
>your just a retarded FUDDER
>*post deleted*

>>61896075
yeah... the old developers literally made the view key this way on PURPOSE as to create reasonable doubt. now were making view keys public to be more "complaint" but i thought the entire point of monero was to be non-compliant? we celebrated when we were removed off exchanges because it meant the technology was working. now were bending backwards so banks and jews can audit us and see how much taxes we owe? are we compromised??

>>61896402
>people being able to see youe entire account balance and any transaction you will make in the future
You don't even try to make it believable. You can't even give a plausible argument against CARROT. You just straight up lie and act surprised when your SPAM results in bans.

>>61896402
>people posted about the problems the hard fork would cause on the reddit
>(reddit paragraph spacing provided so you can read it.) (>>61895000)
lol
>so far the responses to hard fork complaints are just
>>61889053 and >>61894852 and the countless times we explained why you're wrong.
>>people being able to see youe entire account balance and any transaction you will make in the future CHANGES NOTHING!
Just don't give out your view key. If you're worried that you might be forced to (by who?) use a second wallet. If you want to be extra safe, make it so a wallet requires a second password just for you to give out view keys. When asked by the feds, after they have deanonymized you somehow you state you forgot your password.
>as to create reasonable doubt.
But >>61889053 already has shown three years ago how this isn't possible. You can't assume the feds are too incompetent to read a public post but smart enough to deanonymize you.
>now were making view keys public to be more "complaint"
Nope
>but i thought the entire point of monero was to be non-compliant?
The point is to have privacy and anonymity, not to be non-compliant just for the sake of it.
>now were bending backwards so banks and jews can audit us and see how much taxes we owe?
This only works if you're already deanonymized. Please tell me how you'd contact a random XMR wallet holder if you don't know anything about him or her besides the wallet address.
If you can't provide an entirely new attack scenario ask a new question you have. If you have neither stop crying.

>>61896075
You have the reading comprehension of a nigger, and so does whoever posted that. Let's go through this niggerbabble for the audience.

>Wallets can approximate outgoing spends using heuristics
Correct

>or by importing key images manually
Wrong. If you import all the key images you will 100% get the correct balance.

>but that's not part of the basic view key mechanism itself.
All wallets can tell if you didn't import all the key images by using your view key to scan the block chain; the Monero CLI will straight up tell you that your balance is wrong if you didn't import all the key images.
It's 100% meant to be used in conjunction with key images to get the correct balance. Implying otherwise is like saying your car key isn't meant to start your car; it's technically true but it's just retarded to the point that no one who knows how cars work would ever say it

>These proposals introduce outgoing view keys or extensions that allow wallets (or auditors) with the appropriate key to reliably detect both incoming and outgoing activity
Auditors have always been able to use the view key and key images to do this reliably.

>without possessing the spend key
You never needed the spend key to do this. You only ever needed the view key and all key images, and your image even says this.

>>61896197
>They're trying to compromise monero
>This general is obviously already compromised with the 'monerochan', promoting hardware wallets, etc.

You've proven that you don't know enough about Monero to make this claim

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$320-330 stablecoin

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TO ANY TOURISTS

You may have seen the WALLS of argumentative shitposts which make 0 sense. This is because this general is COMPROMISED by bots from shills to shit up the thread

A newly proposed monero update significantly compromises its privacy, you'll have to do your own research for this, and (((blockchain auditors))) are of course in favor

For genuine Monero discussion, please find relevant Telegram of X channels

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>>61897242
buy an ad, start a thread
plz gtfo so i can talk about how hot monerochan is and CONTINUE to use my digital currency(untraced) without your 3rd world ass shitting on the thread like you do the streets

>>61897242
>you'll have to do your own research for this
And find >>61889053?

>>61895174
Mandatory viewkeys for tax report.

>>61898279
i cant wait till i am able plug my view keys into turbo tax.
do all the heavy lifting for me, thinking wise

>>61898279
I genuinely want to understand the thought process of the fudders. How is the IRS supposed to pressure anyone into giving up his view keys if they don't even know the users of XMR? Do they just send a letter to every citizen?

I don't intend on giving my keys, whether view keys or private keys, to anyone.

There you go, my privacy is intact, as it has always been.

>>61898279
and that is still better than bitcoin and unsafe public transactions
it's the future, if you will

>>61898699
No, but you have to if it's the law, which it will be and also Monero will be illegal. You're screwed, kid.

>>61899408
no one knows I have monero thoughbeit

>>61899408
In a lot of countries it's already the law that criminals have to give out their private keys to the cops so they can seize the dirty money.
An update on optional view keys doesn't affect privacy at all.

That's why if you have monero you just don't tell anyone you have monero.
Privacy = intact

>>61899408
How do the prosecutors know who to contact?

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The incentive for the new view keys is to allow (((auditors, central exchanges and blockchain analysts))) to fracture the ecosystem into two. Where only the transparant users are allowed to participate

There is no reason to introduce a regulatory mechanism into the protocol, compromising Monero's mandatory privacy-first ethos

When you realize who benefits most from the protocol change, the shitposts defending it suddenly make sense

>>61900104
>(((auditors, central exchanges and blockchain analysts)))
How do they contact me if they don't know that I'm an XMR user?

>>61900104
We're already not allowed to participate in the system as monero users. Exchanges allowing us back if we give out keys won't change anything for us that don't intend on doing so.

You're a bot schizo and can safely be ignored.

>>61900104
Lmao the new view keys are going to completely change the game in monero usability. The new lite wallets made possible by this change will, for the first time, allow complete retards (the general public) to use Monero.

For current users who know what they're doing (cold wallet users), life will also be easier because the back and forth of key images won't be necessary anymore.

If you used Monero, you'd know this. Like you'd also know view keys exist already.

>if i call them jewish I win

Since when did the DoD guys on /pol/ start posting on /biz/

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Heil Monero!

>>61903091
Mased

>>61903091
It would be better if her sash actually said モネロ一番(Monero is best) or something like that.

>>61903728
Wouldn't it be モネーロ? At least based on how I usually see Esperanto words transliterated in Japanese.

>>61903739
Yeah but upon sashes and whatnot its usually written vertically so it would have to be:
モ
ネ
|
ロ
一
番
Which might not fit the limited space. I'm not an artist or I would've done it myself.

>>61903739
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monero
It's モネロ

>>61903874
Huh, wonder why it goes against the usual transliteration rules. The usual rule I've seen is that the stressed syllable gets transcribed with a long vowel if it's an open syllable.

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>>61903874
>モネロa cipher currency of type Peer to Peer

>>61896075
Where is the source for the "intentional" part that you've underlined? Can you show that this isn't an assumption/hallucination of the LLM you are using?

>>61905109
https://www.getmonero.org/resources/research-lab/pubs/whitepaper_annotated.pdf

>>61905188
I don't see any mention of view keys. Which part of the 23 pages do you want to quote as proof that view keys are intentionally limited to showing only incoming txs?

>>61905278
29* pages

>>61905278
>>61905281
It shows Monero's founding principle is privacy first
The new view keys are transparency first for (((governance))) convenience

The effort makes sense; Monero is so fundamentally bulletproof that the only way to anonymize is to breach the protocol itself

>>61905636
de-anonymize*

>>61905636
>The effort makes sense; Monero is so fundamentally bulletproof that the only way to anonymize is to breach the protocol itself
How can they request my keys if they don't even know I use Monero?

>>61905188
>>61905636

>ctrl+f 'privacy first'
>0 results
?

>>61905636
OK so the white-paper doesn't say that the view keys in current Monero are intentionally designed to not track outgoing txs, which is what your LLM screenshot implied. It's just your assumption based on the generic principle that Monero tries to hide txs, that the view keys are also intentionally limited like that.

I'm not convinced. I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, but you have no proof that it was ever intentional for the view keys to be limited like that. If this limitation of the current view keys was intentional there would have been some design document or discussion log where an alternative was discussed that WOULD have allowed outgoing txs to be tracked, but was decided against on privacy grounds. Unless you have such a recorded decision, to me it looks exactly like a legit limitation of the tech back when it was designed, not a conscious choice.

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Blockchain Surveillance companies HATE Him!
Stop your view key from being compromised with this one simple trick!

>>61881576
I bought loads of tokens of this stuff during the covid crash and am NOW using it to buy stuff at actual stores in my country. Since it appreciated in value, I boosted my purchasing power and can take my profits without the government getting any of it! Based!

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>>61908975
That's what it's actually for!

Everyone should buy Monero, wait until the price does +10% then buy a prepaid credit card/gift card with it and spend it for daily purchases.

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Kind of impressed at how well we're still holding desu.

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my monerotopia presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdqsw2PueNk

I'm retarded and only dabbled in some solana in the past, what's the go-to way to have a wallet for XMR? For solana I just use phantom and save the pass phrases physically. I wanna receive and send of course

>>61912606
Cake wallet is probably the most similar to phantom (multi coin, noob friendly, can buy crypto with debit card, etc)

>>61911913
4 digits this year

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>>61912606
A paper or metal wallet, generator on an air-gapped machine

>>61912606
Cake Wallet is what most people use.

>>61912519
Comfy watch.

Regarding the "Can XMR survive Solar Flare" question which you weren't sure about...I asked that once here and some technical anon said it could recover once surviving nodes/copies of blockchain come back online (assuming all went offline).

Now that we got AI, I asked Grok after feeding in your presentation to it, and it said the same:
>If all nodes go offline temporarily (e.g., power/comms loss but hardware survives), the blockchain doesn't vanish. Nodes store the full ledger locally (LMDB database in Monero).
>When power/internet returns and at least some nodes come back online (ideally multiple with full history), they reconnect via P2P, compare chains, resolve any short-term forks via longest-chain rule, and resume syncing/validating from the last agreed state.
>Honest nodes reject invalid forks; the network converges on the valid chain. Transactions during outage simply wait in mempools or get rebroadcast later.
>Monero (like Bitcoin) is designed for this resilience—decentralized, no central authority needed to "restart." As long as ≥1 full archival node survives with intact storage, the chain can recover fully once connectivity returns.

Caveats:
>Hardware destruction (e.g., widespread fried electronics from EMP/surge) = permanent loss if backups aren't hardened/offline/air-gapped. Most consumer hardware vulnerable; Faraday-caged/offline cold storage wallets could survive.
>Prolonged isolation (regions offline weeks+) could cause temporary chain splits/forks if isolated miners keep producing, but honest nodes resolve on reconnection (difficulty adjusts, longest valid chain wins).
>Solar flare specifics: Not all flares EMP-hard; Carrington-level could cause grid blackouts and satellite issues, but not total global electronics wipe. Bitcoin/Monero discussions note slow blocks during hashrate drop, then recovery.

>>61913318
>>61913666
I went with that one but can't get the "generate donation link" working

>>61914727
I don't understand what you mean by "generate donation link", what are you trying to achieve?

>>61914798
When I press receive on the app on the top it has mainnet, donation (once) and donation (recurrent)

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>>61914914
Its for the AnonPay services, you don't need that.
Leave it at Mainnet and then you have your address below.

What happens when Iran is bombed to smithereens and the largest Monero mining hub goes offline permanently?

>>61915085
Mining incentives go up so mining in other countries will become profitable.
So people will mine.

>>61914060
>Can XMR survive Solar Flare
Irrelevant. The immediate threat is not solar flares, but the State.
The most important question is, "Can monero resist strong State pressure exerted against the development team to de-anonymize, make it State compliant. "
The problem is, in order to control a blockchain, a bad actor only has to control a few key developers. That is the true weak point of blockchain.

>>61915793
>a bad actor only has to control a few key developers.
And then perform a coordinated attack, over long periods of time, with each of the canaries still being intact, after having deanonymized and compromised all relevant devs in a very short time frame, and prevent everyone from forking the publicly accessible code while also hiding what exactly they are doing.
Additionally, you also need to control the maintainers.

>>61915793
Exactly. Monero's protocol is so frustratingly bullet proof for governments, that the only way to get in, would be to modify the protocol through developer coercion
The due diligence has to be extreme, because there is a lot to lose compared to the gains of introducing changes

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im buying dih

>>61894471
>a large chunk will not migrate to new fork
Here's what likely to happen:
Yes many people will refuse new fork, but those people will lose. New fork is still going to be THE XMR. Those protesters will probably rebrand oldXMR to be something that is heavily stigmatized by public and throttled by feds. At that point you can only use oldXMR with North Koreans and friends.

>>61916002
>The due diligence has to be extreme, because there is a lot to lose compared to the gains of introducing changes

Nobody contesting the hard fork has done any due diligence, otherwise they'd know that the devs started working on outgoing view keys 10 years ago
https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/1070

>>61897242
No one ever posts proof to claims. At least post something that can be argued/looked into instead of FUDing.

Like NAXO labs claiming to be able to track XMR. That has some solid evidence behind it unlike your claim of “DYOR, ITS HACKED”

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>>61917143
While you're obviously a fudding retard, you're involuntarily correct about something:

One day Monero won't be the best coin for privacy anymore. That day, I, and everyone else caring about private money, will switch to the new coin.
Because we're not exactly Montero extremists, we're privacy extremists.

Doesn't matter if it happens because Monero is highjacked or if another tech comes out. We'll follow private money.

Hey look it's another years-old source from a dev discussing how the new view balance keys don't affect privacy any more than the current view keys, while giving several reasons why they're way better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw6GKFhKKBE

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Why aren't Iranians all swapping their unstable currency for Monero?
We failed at propagating the knowledge of Monero over there, it's on us.

>>61917769
Their chance was months or even years ago. By the time the war kicked off the Iranian currency was made worthless

>>61915814
Forked chains are only worth a fraction of the original chain. That's what happened with BCH.
It's easy to compromise people if the soup is good. Invite them at special week ends in luxury resorts. Propose to hire them as "consultants", for insanely high fees, and very little actual work. Hell even sent them a 9/10 girl that has been trained to sex, that is an expert at manipulation and emotional control, in order to control the target.
Some will resist, but the majority will fall.
Whole governments are controlled this way. For dev teams it could be even easier.

>>61917143
Forks always failed. From ethereum classic, to Bitcoin cash, bitcoin satoshi vision...
There isn't one successful fork to my knowledge.

>>61918055
>There isn't one successful fork to my knowledge.
Monero is a fork.

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HEY
/xmr/. I haven't been able to sleep, and this is why. Hear me out...I am talking about FortyThousand. Its time to convert it. I am finally leaving America because the Government are a bunch of fools that wanted to bomb Iran. Fuck them man. Lame motherfuckers are going to get us all killed.

What are we waiting for? We dodging the draft or what? I can only wait for so long anons. I am freakingout because I have FortyThousand in my stock account, and idk if I'll be able to get it out in time, and into XMR to leave the country...I already filledup gas, but most of my money is in XMR, and considering WW3 just started, idk if I'm going to make it.

>>61918473
*investments
not XMR. I wish most of my money was in XMR...I should have listened anons. I'm sorry.

>>61918473
Nothing ever happens, Anon.
You still have to go to work tomorrow and pay your taxes to feed the niggers.

This is not WW3, it's a regime change without boots on the ground. That way Israel is happy because they can puppeteer Iran and Trump is happy because he doesn't have to engage in prolonged war that costs a lot of money and American lives.
He did the same thing less than a month ago with Venezuela.

Business as usual.

>>61918050
>Hell even sent them a 9/10 girl that has been trained to sex, that is an expert at manipulation and emotional control
I woudl fall for this very easily

>>61918800
So would I, and I'm married with children.
God I pray I'll never be tempted. I'm such a weak man when it comes to someone caring for me. When someone asks me questions and seems to care about what I actually think and feel, I feel like I'm melting.

Thankfully I'm unimportant and not very approachable.

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Monero overtook Chainlink again

>>61919546
I've been seeing threads about chainlink on this board for years but still have no idea what it does.
What's the use case of chainlink? What is it used for?

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>>61919746

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330 stablecoin

>>61918627
Israel retarded shit is rightoid 100 IQ retarded thinking.
America bombs iran because Iran was selling it's oil to China in Yuan, which is bad for the petrodollar. Same reason america intervened in Venezuela a few weeks ago. Same reason america got rid of saddam hussein, and Gaddafy in Lybia. It's always about the petrodollar. If Israel was on a other continent they still would have bombed iran.

>>61920585
Taking time out of my day just to tell you you're retarded. Probably jewish too. I understand Monero will have jews in it but you don't have to make it so obvious. Fuck you for acting like America is even a sovereign nation that gets to make its own decisions on behalf of its precious currency.

>>61920477
Got more pics like these?

Painfully stable, but surprised it doesn't flinch from war

hi /xmr/, whats the simplest way to get a small amount of xmr (say $50) in canada without kyc?

>>61921284
Buy it P2P on RetoSwap. It's unfortunately not very simple, it'll take you a bit of time to understand and buy something.

That being said, you obviously want drug money and are afraid of being tracked by your KYC, but they can't track you that way.
Even if you do it KYC on a CEX once you have your Monero in your wallet they have no way of knowing what you end up doing with it. Doesn't matter if it's buying drugs or funding terrorism.

>>61921454
KYC is a humiliation ritual
You shouldn't do it even if you'd get paid for it

>>61921284
My advice
>get Revolut and put money on it
>go to Hodlhodl (p2p escrow service) to buy BTC
>send that BTC to some easy local wallet like Sparrow
>Then go to Trocador and swap the BTC for XMR

>>61920477
I can't read the tiny text, gay image

>>61921724
get a better screen / eyes
>cash and you can actually use it as a heater too. check out my youtube channel, ive done a bunch of cool videos on heating my house with all the exhaust from my miner. hope youre ok with noise, though youll get used to it after a while. its just like living next to an airport, you sort of start to forget the planes are there after a while

>>61921761
yeah maybe I'll use XMR to buy better eyes bro

>>61920843
Sure let's say american would have zero jews. I'm sure it would the american geopolitic would be very different. Esepcially regarding Iran who sold oil to China in Yuan since 2023.

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Why did ZACHXBT posts on X that a whale got hacked and they're converting to Monero "will post details later". Implying that was the cause for the pump to 700 USD

I tried to find the tweet, but it's deleted?

>>61920843
Also i wonder why jews got to america in the first place. Is it possible that american way of life is exactly what attracted jews in the first place.
Jew York is exactly this. A giant marketplace.

>>61921827
Only one way to find out you absolute retard and I’m all for it.

>>61920843
Just an other /bizraeli in denial of what he really is.

>>61921832
He does that every time there's a monero pump.
He never posts proof or details.

>>61921845
In the end it's on you. And your responsability if things stay the same.

>>61921839
America is a playground for the Jews, has been since the beginning. America was the first country to give them unrestricted citizenship and freedom to do their jewry. It’s no surprise they control USA foreign policy to this day.

Currency domination is a tool of America but it’s not some end goal in itself. What is the end goal of economic warfare? It has to serve someone’s interests. For a hint, try looking at the one foreign nation that American politicians praise, worship and admire literally 6,000,000 times more than any other country.

>>61921873
20 years i've been aware of this. Truth is, erazing the jews by becoming them, and replacing them, won't solve anything.

>>61921911
>”if you kill your enemies, they win”
Yes, very deep and wise

>>61921832
It's not deleted

https://xcancel.com/zachxbt/status/2012212936735912351

>>61920477
Good to see this is still being used lol

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>>61881576
>be me
>have AI agent I built
>training it on hundreds of high level finance/trading/algorithmic book
>most books not available online for free
>find site you can pirate books for free but limited in downloads
>you can pay them $9 for nearly unlimited downloads
>don’t wanna use a debit card
>they accept XMR
>pay them XMR
>first time I’ve ever actually used Monero to buy something
Feels good man

>>61922619
I assume most people's purchase with Monero is drugs on a DNM.
Maybe you could celebrate your first monero purchase by doing another one and getting a few tabs of LSD.

>>61922702
Nah I’ve was heavy into psychedelics when I was in my early 20’s. In my 30’s now and the hardest thing I do nowadays is coffee. I don’t even drink lol. My rebellion against the state nowadays is paying for hundreds of pirated books with untraceable money. :)

>>61922440
My bad, thank you

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>>61918050
>Forked chains are only worth a fraction of the original chain.
The point is that it makes no sense to go through all this effort just to be easily thwarted by git. The worst part is that the value proposition of Monero isn't the price but the transactional qualities we have. DNMs would jump in a second if there was a better project.
>Whole governments are controlled this way. For dev teams it could be even easier.
Not really. The system western governments function under is reliant on willingly given blackmail. Imagine you're some big shot in your national government. You'd know the your rival is mainly into small boys because you spotted him at the weekly satanic temple when you were eating some fetus. You were both invited by your mentors, who were invited by their mentors or close friends and so on. If you showed any sign of wanting out, they'd destroy you both publicly and privately. Devs normally just want to do their work and an anime girlfriend.

>>61921019
Here you go

>>61921832
Did he post the details yet?

>>61922716
You're already rebelling by not being a hedonist

Love XMR. Simple as.

>>61926623
How's my little coin doing?

>>61881576
where can I buy this outfit? for my gf haha

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>>61926623

Lebanon anon I hope you're okay

>>61927065
this

>>61921284
some bitcoin atms accept cash and sells other cryptos. overpriced rates though

>>61927065
>>61927148
Why? All he did was beg for money

>>61927488
He has lost family due to the effects of hyperinflation and his whole country is on the chopping block for (((greater pissreal))). Pitying him is prescient as, lets just say, he's living in a future we soon will all enjoy. May the Lord have mercy on us all going into this Lenten and Paschal season.

>>61927488
Checked but it's because of what the next poster says exactly. Fuck the jews I denounce the Talmud.

>>61927539

What’s your average monthly buy/sell XMR volume?

>>61931748
Unknown.

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>>61881576
Please approve my buying process bros...
buy crypto on CashApp/Robinhood > send to a swap and swap for XMR > send to feather wallet

Is this good enough, or am I going to risk getting banned sending to swaps too much? I'm not really concerned about the KYC because I'm converting to XMR (and I use both accounts a lot for transactions, so it shouldn't look out of the ordinary), but would it be better to add an extra step, by sending the crypto from an exchange to a private wallet before swapping?

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>>61932872
part of me says keep at it until you get a warning, but it would be safer to send the to a personal wallet before the online dex

>>61932924
Thanks anon, still pretty new to this but I'll start doing that. What wallet would you recommend using? I used to use Exodus but they soldout to glowies unfortunately, and I'm not sure if their still trustworthy...Phantom is good but lacks coinsupport.

>>61932872
It's probably fine, except if you use a weird Russian swap service I don't think transacting to a swap service is against cashapp/robinhood ToS/AML.

>>61932976
If you use mainstream coins then cake wallet is what most people into Monero use.
It'll work just fine to get some Litecoin and swap it to Monero.

can monero network be used as a secret channel?

>>61934027
You mean for communication? I remember from the NFT times that we tried to reduce the possibility of that. Also you need another secure channel to make the addresses known.
One way your idea might be feasible would be as a canary. Imagine some site had 3 head admins and each admin sent each other admin 1 XMR a week as a way for them to know they don't think they've been compromised. If one of the three admins stopped sending the Monero to the other admins they'd know that he is going rogue or got compromised. Additionally, they'd know the other one still is in the safe. However, you'd still need a previously established secure channel to at least exchange the addresses once.

tldr no sexo in monero board

Guys I want buy monero without kyc, is OpenMonero safe?
Or should I use RetoSwap?
any other advice for anon buy? I have heard to make another temporary wallet for fiat->monero buy and then trasfer xmr on my primary wallet, is that too much?

>>61934619
>Guys I want buy monero without kyc
See
>>61881586
people also sell p2p on XMR bazaar.

>Open Monero
-got hacked
-markets itself as the successor to Agoradesk/Local Monero
-swears they'll be open source Soon™
-shills constantly on Twitter
-FUDs retoswap on Twitter

I don't trust them but you're welcome to give them a shot.

>Or should I use RetoSwap?
Over Open Monero? Absolutely since it has a proven track record and is actually open source.

>Any other advice for anon buy?
1. The only truly anon buy methods are in person p2p and cash by mail.
2. There will probably be instructions on how to send the cash by mail on the post. Follow them exactly.

>>61933004
>I don't think transacting to a swap service is against cashapp/robinhood ToS/AML.
Believe it or not, that actually IS against their ToS...

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>>61881576
Monerochads, I implore you to investigate and potentially spread a little risk to Zera [ 8avjtjHAHFqp4g2RR9ALAGBpSTqKPZR8nRbzSTwZERA ].

XMR is going to go up 2x 3x 4x eventually. Zera gives absolute privacy among other things, probably satisfying most peoples (or all) use cases. If anyone cares they will 100x 200x 300x eventually.

>>61937390
Before you get banned, can you tell us what Zera has that Monero doesn't?

>the only cryptoCURRENCY that people actually transact in

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$400,- soon