>>21964309
can i still kill a cow?

>>21964309
only if it's cheaper

If simulated illegal pornography is still illegal and unethical then simulated beef is still unethical

>>21964322
nice, maybe i'll try it afterall

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>>21964312
Sure, why not? Its not about ethics, its about winning wars and having the healthiest well nourished protein fed population to curb stomp your enemies, see them driven before ya and hear the lamentations of their women.

>>21964309
I don't trust food corporations not to add a cancer causing chemical to it, so no.

>>21964338
Like in 99% of all available food items, animal medicine and crops for cattle.

>>21964309
Dunno, never tried beef.
Don't see what all the hype is about, I'm perfectly content with my lentil burgers.

>>21964348
Me neither, I like pork though.

>>21964348
>never tried beef.
>Don't see what all the hype is about
Because you've never tried it, you fucking retard. You have to actually try a food if you want to even begin to understand why other people like it.

>>21964309
>3D printed steak made from cow cells
that's called a cow.
the printer is the vagina.

>>21964466
Not the point.

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>>21964309
Yes. Absolutely.

For one thing it would make veganfags shut the fuck up.

Another thing is that the population is probably going to need it as a protein source. You can eat plant proteins and live a long time, but societally, we cannot have it where meat is out of reach because then people are going to go out of their way to steal steaks and society will probably destabilize or some shit. Making it 10 dollars a lb is not the solution. Faux Meat like Impossible or Beyond is full of chemicals and fillers and is expensive.

This shit will absolutely win a customer base over when texture improves, and most importantly, when cost goes below the cost of beef. Once that happens, people will move to it as a substitute for the real thing.

>But how will people get over the fact it's grown in a lab and processed in a vat?

What? You mean like Cheese, Citric Acid, MSG, Beer, Wine, Spirits, or Yogurt? Fuck off with that dumbass argument. All that shit and more are grown in vats, often using bacteria.

>>21964309
absolutely

>>21964322
??? regular beef isnt unethical

>>21964348
>never tried beef
holy third world...

>>21964309
Will basically never be able to eat out again when this becomes standard. You just know all the fast food slop will adopt it first because it'll be cheap

>>21964309
no, fuck that I guarantee it doesn't taste anything like real steak
I would happily eat actual tissue grown in a lab, so long as it was inexpensive. But 3d printed food is never going to work, it's a dead end

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>>21964309
>I am not a Luddite
Enjoy your cancer

>>21964309
absolutely not

>>21964309
I never tried plant based meat, but i guess i might try this just to find out how inferior it is to the real deal.

>>21964648
what about left beef

>>21964309
>I am not a Luddite
You should do some more research, because the Luddites were correct.

>>21964309
If the cow cells were 3-d printed by the uterus of another cow, then yes.

>>21964309
No. That's just shitty emulsified ground beef but more expensive.

>>21964466
your biology could use some work, Anon

>>21964309
For like 100 dollars? No.

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>>21964309
>Would you eat a 3D printed steak made from cow cells?
no

>>21964606
Veganfags will find another thing with which they can be obnoxious about.

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>>21964309
Fuck no, I'm fine with having regular beef and this is just a WEF-funded fad like bugs being farmed for human consumption was.
>>21964708
>Enjoy your cancer
>He thinks cancer is the worst thing you could get from 3D-printed beef.
The 90's called. They just wanted to remind you that bovine spongiform encephalopathy is easily spread to humans, has no cure, and is always fatal.

if it's the same nutritional value, health effect, same price of lower, yes

>>21965103
you cant get prion diseases from printed beef. it's grown in a lab, it was never alive.

>>21964309
isnt the mean in Campbells soups and other canned crap already 3d printed imitation meat?
Their CEO got into hot water over it last year and everyone forgot about it a week later.

>>21965150
Stop spending all your time on schizo conspiracy theory blogs, anon. 3d printed meat made from actual animal cells is still much more expensive to produce than the real thing.

>>21964309
>trusting them to not practical cannibal joke insert human dna you

Would I go out of my way for it? No
If it was made for me and given to me for free, maybe once

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>>21965103
Insect protein is healthy, I wouldnt mind if bread for instance is enriched with bug flour.

>>21965103
WEF is based, you schizo.

absolutely not

>>21964309
>would you eat beef that costs x16 more than regular beef
if someone else is paying for it, sure, but that prices is murder
>>21964606
thats never going to happen, the amount of things you have to replicate that a body does is astronomical. youd have an easier time trying to invent a perpetual motion than trying to mimic blood vessels and all the work blood cells do, let alone the lungs, liver, kidneys, immune system, all of which has to run on electricity, something that will eventually crash due to a lack of fuel in the future, to be cheaper than just raising a cattle normally, because the cattle eats, drinks, breathes, fights off diseases for "free", not to mention the secondary products like milk and leather

>>21965687
Not if you have to feed 1bn americans.

>>21964309
I hate venture capital so much it's unreal

>>21964309
for the experience and novelty of it? sure. as a regularl part of my diet? fuck no.

>>21965810
Its probably healthier to eat 3d printed steak than eating ramen or other grain slop.

>>21965264
some guy that had never seen a production line in his entire life made said some nonsense about it. this guy was hired straight into corporate. I work in production and this happens all the time. upper management literally does not know how the product is created because it has nothing to do with their jobs which are business decisions.

>>21965150
No. It's processed in some way but people keep complaining about printed/cultured/lab-grown meat being in stores yet it's not actually available. It's still too expensive for use. People just don't know how highly processed and low quality a lot of meat is and now lab meat is being used as a scapegoat for that.

Anyway I would try it if they can show that it's identical to real high quality meat, but it seems to be fairly low quality and they try to say it's a good thing because meat is unhealthy anyway so it missing certain things is actually good which I don't really believe.

>>21965281
>>21965277
$2.50 have been deposited into your account. Thank you for helping shape online discourse about the WEF. This will be helpful in encouraging Promising Young Leaders and helping us, and the world, reach it's goals.

>>21965142
prions aren't alive and never were either. they come from protein, which presumably are also in the printed meat

>>21965779
that doesnt change anything, in fact that makes things even worse, youre just putting more strain on the power grid, because lab meat doesnt scale

>>21964312
Well where the hell else are you gonna get cow cells?

>>21964322
>simulated illegal pornography
What do you mean by simulated? How do you make simulated porn?

>>21964309
> I am not a Luddite, would definitely try.
because you're a golem

>>21964309
no i don't want cancer

>>21966149
>having more indians under chinese influence is ... baaaased
Fuck you, moron.

>>21966339
drawn/animated

I don't believe we actually understand nutrition enough to make a meat substitute that isn't missing something crucial

>>21964309
It's the only thing that can realistically end factory farming, so obviously I'd want to support it. Don't know if I'd be too grossed out by it but I've never been grossed out by substitutes however realistic (and I've had omni friends eating at my local vegan cafe express amazement that they weren't eating real meat, so I've had some pretty realistic substitutes).
>>21964322
It's not unethical though, and in many places it's not illegal either.

>>21964648
How would you like to be killed and eaten?

>>21966149
Not an argument.

>>21966461
Companies working on it already said it was missing various things and they tried to say it was a good thing because meat is unhealthy anyway and coincidentally all the missing things were bad for you.

>>21966573
It's ok because it's not happening to me :)

>>21966582
Congratulations on having literally zero empathy.

>>21966592
Empathy is understanding what someone is feeling and why they're feeling it. It has nothing to do with taking any particular action toward it.

>>21964348
So if you haven't tried it, how do you know if the hype is just hype?
Very stupid post. Try some beef and maybe then you'll actually be able to form an opinion.

>>21966337
idk man, big titty anime girls?

>>21966592
How many people must die for your empathy? The ability to empathize with others doesn't mean we ignore problems they create.
>>21966433
The migration of Indians and Chinese national into western countries will be important to decolonialization efforts and placement of refugees due to climate change. We should be embracing refugees to further global cooperation.
>>21966575
I wasn't arguing with anyone. I was thanking this young leader for shaping internet discorse concerning the WEF and further its globally minded goals.

>>21967378
I'm the one who's arguing for someone NOT to be killed, what the hell are you talking about?

>>21964309
isnt this just cancer cell mechanisms inside healthy cells for replication? how are these not cancer steaks?

>>21967651
>isnt this just cancer cell mechanisms inside healthy cells for replication?
why

>>21964312
This anon fucks

>>21964309
nice framing schlomo. rejecting dystopian forces does not make someone a luddite.

>>21964309
Nah, I already have cancer.

>>21968353
Youre allowed to have your opinion, moron.

>>21964317
THIS

>>21964309
Yeah sure why not.

>>21964322
Simulated beef is unethical? Why?

>>21971080
Because simulated illegal porn is still illegal, which means simulating unethical products still produces an unethical product. He literally explained all of this in the post, you illiterate mong.

>>21971091
That's a false equivalency. That's like saying fake flowers are unethical. Also, the example states illegal porn, and if I'm not mistaken, simulated beef isn't illegal. This whole thread is stupid. Stop perpetuating stupidity.

>>21971176
>That's like saying fake flowers are unethical.
Only if real flowers are unethical. Are they?

>enter a food thread
>immediately thinks about loli porn

>>21966337
Live tissue biopsy

>>21971565
Do not bite living cows, they fucking hate that sorta stuff.

>>21971270
arent oppai lolis called cows?

>>21967710
It would not make sense to raise animal, throw them into blender, then print the meat.
The implication of 3d printed meat from cells imply a mechanism to grow animal cells without the animal. Only mechanism I am aware that does this is cancer, but I doubt they would use actual cancer cells. So they probably took the cancer cell mechanism, implanted it into healthy cell then allowed it to multiply and WA LA 3d printed meat.

>>21964309
No one here wants to eat your fucking cancer meat, corpo borpo marxist. Fuck yourself.

If you've eaten a Big Arch you've already tasted 3d printed meat

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>>21966187
This was super interesting to me so I looked it up
> What really is a prion, wikipedia?
A prion (/ˈpriːɒn/ ) is a misfolded protein that induces folding problems in normal variants of the same protein, leading to cellular death. Prions are responsible for prion diseases, which are fatal and transmissible neurodegenerative diseases affecting animals, including humans. These proteins can misfold sporadically, due to genetic mutations, or by exposure to an already misfolded protein, leading to an abnormal three-dimensional structure that can propagate misfolding in other proteins.[3]

So.. I see your point that it could still happen in lab grown meat but, I think it would be more likely to be caught in lab grown meat too.. IDK, just an assumption.
Not trying to convince you any which way desu, just wanted to share

>>21964309
Would try. I would definitely pay attention to how it made me feel, and keep an eye on the ingredients list.
I can already taste and feel a difference when I eat poor quality meat, so it comes down to if it makes me feel like shit

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>>21973484
>muh cancer
God you schizos are awful. Please neck yourself.

>>21973630
yeah it's like a real life zombie disease and it's horrifying!

>>21973753
You Jews are awful. Please gas yourself.

>>21974060
It's like down syndromes evil uncle

>>21964309
I'd try it for sure, but I fail to see the point.
I'd like science to come up with a pill that has all the nutrients and vitamins you need, mixed in with some sort of hunger inhibitor.
Just cut out the need to eat at all. This shit is holding us back.

>>21974080
it's like if a down syndrome person also had autistic meltdowns and seizures, and is also obsessed with carrying a razor sharp kitchen knife in each hand at all times, and he's like taz from bugs bunny where he likes to spin in unpredictable cyclonic paths, anything he touches with the knifes gets infected with autism and also he's 3D printed so impossible to kill like the terminator

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>>21974106
I would've never guessed 3D printing would be our downfall
We always take it too far

>>21964309
Only if cow shooting ranges are opened.

>>21973753
Unnatural cell growth is literally cancer

>>21974108
when you have autism and 3d printing it's a magical world. but don't fly too close to the sun. you could end up dying in a montage...

>>21974072
Nobody cares about your opinion, Eunuch.

>>21964309
I feel like this kind of mass produced meat is most likely to be in McDonalds burgers rather than supermarket steaks.

>>21964309
>meat printed out of tiny pieces of meat
sure

>make 3d printed beef
>make it not particularly gross and so cheap that natural need cannot compete
>buy out farm land and bury research into health defects for the next 20 years
>if there are any health consequences, by the time anybody knows about it the beef industry won't exist anymore
>even if it doesn't give you cancer, you now are the sole way for people to get beef, meaning you're free to cut corners to raise prices, lower quality, and probably give people cancer
>the wealthy will continue to eat natural beef from private farms the entire time
Literally every breakthrough since the industrial revolution has been abused to maximize profits and control. Star Trek isn't happening. What kind of retard do you have to be to think printed beef is going to work out?

>>21964309
Same, I never gave a shit what my food is or from where it came from, only how taste, cheap and healthy it is, in that order of importance.

>>21964826
That sounds like something a trogluddite would say.

>>21976000
You need to have a special case of profound mental retardation to believe that the common man deserves more than 3d printed slop to subsist as the clog it is. At least until the global population decreases to <1B.

>>21976010
>anti-human contempt
>muh fake population crisis
>"deserve"
You should be put to sleep.

>>21964309
Literally nothing could compel me to. Same for lab chocolate that is just seed oil machine sludge. Fuck this Hell corporate world to actual Hell forever. We need an actual reset, but not the kind they like. We need a Carrington Event by the grace of God to save us from technology and industry.

>>21964309
as in you put ground meat into the printer and it shits out a steak? Sure

They won't make it cheaper than beef, they will make beef more expensive than it is.
Meat is going back to be exclusive to the elite class, you peasants are going back to grain gruel.

>>21976385
It had nothing to do with population crisis, mutt. It's about the quality of today's populace, most of them are dead weight slowing down progress.

>>21976600
That’s retarded, the people slowing down progress are the ones hoarding wealth.
The only time we make progress nowadays is if someone thinks they can get rich off it.
We don’t need stupid people, it’s genuinely easy to work around them. Especially if you just put money towards working around them.

>>21964309
if we can get lab grown meat thats bascially the same (cells then grown) instead of massmurdering animals i am all for it you have to be retarded or hate animals to be against it if we ever get to this point

cow-cels seething

>>21976600
Name a single person or organization pushing 3D printed meat, bug protein, reduced farm land, etc, who doesn't also want to replace the entirety of the human population with subservient, dependent underclass of brown third worlders? What IQ and culture do you think that <1 billion world population would have? You're an autistic retard who's letting your hatred of life and people delude you.

>>21964348
How to know someone's Indian, they never tried beef

>>21964309
yeah sure why not
that said I think the more economical and practical way to make cruelty-free and far more efficient meat is to figure out a way to grow cow flesh without a nervous system (this technology will also be extremely useful for humans who need things like new livers and kidneys)
they've tried to grow mammal flesh in vats but the problem is that there's no immune system so bacteria just eat everything before the meat replicates in any substantial quantities

>>21964309
It will be essential for future space travel. The only people really fighting against it are the cattle ranchers and food corps who want the process to be perfected but not cut into their profits before they do a 180 and adopt the process themselves.

>>21977050
>we'll need it for space travel
Then they can eat it in space.
>The only people really fighting against it are the cattle ranchers and food corps
Willfully ignorant. Nobody wants their food to get manipulated any further than it already is.

>>21964309
Sounds HIGHLY PROCESSED to me!
Aren't we supposed to avoid HIGHLY PROCESSED foods?!

Fuck no, I'd much rather shoot a cow and eat its corpse.

3D printed steaks made from cow cells are pointless because cows aren't rare

The marketing appeal for 3d printed meat is making it out of the cells of celebrities for example

>>21977691
Or meat from endangered species.