The papadias are the best thing they have. Do you just not like making them or something?

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Hello, papa John’s shameless shill anon. I was inspired by your transparency and honesty and recently purchased and consumed a pizza from the nearest papa John’s.
It was much better than I remembered it being a few years ago. I quite enjoyed the pizza. I will be ordering more pizza from your fine establishments (as long as the particular store isn’t run by pajeets, they ruin everything).
I hope you have a nice day.

>>21975327
They were always just half-assed calzones, dude. The new sandwiches are basically the same thing but better. A "papadia" was literally just a small or cheestestick dough that got folded on itself.
They ARE a pain to make though, that is true, because it requires a specific thickness on the dough and you either have to machine-press or hand-press that and it's a fucking pain in the ass. Same with the bites, which is why I'm glad they're gone too.
I've been advocating all along for refining the menu, and trust me those items needed to go.
>>21975336
I'm very glad to hear that, and I can confirm with my own long history of experience that - for some reason - pizza is simply NOT AN INDIAN'S GAME. I've never worked with an Indian. Not once.
They will order food from here, but they don't work in pizza joints.

LESS SUGAR IN THE SAUCE
LESS FUCKING SUGAR IN THE FUCKING SAUCE

we also increased our oven cycle time not like any of you neanderthals know what that means
>>21975347
the ingredients of our sauce is as follows:
>Fresh vine-ripened tomatoes (our tomatoes are freshly packed from vine to can in the same day), sunflower oil, sugar, salt, garlic, spices, extra virgin olive oil, citric acid (maintains freshness).
I wish it had a bit less sugar too but it is what it is I'm not the CEO
you go tell Shaq the sauce should be less sweet

How can they call it Papa John's if they fired Papa John? Did the dude sell his name?

>>21975353
I've been screaming it from the rooftops for decades
I know Americans are inundated with sugar but that doesn't mean your sauce has to taste like tomato icing
It's inedible

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WE CALL THEM "BABY PAPABELLAS"

>>21975362
I know dude, trust me, It's always been my biggest complaint and I think a more robust sauce would really set us apart
I wish they would fucking listen to me already

For oldheads who have followed these threads over the last few years, you've NOTICED
What did I say????
>focus on doing what we do best, better
>cut the bites, cut the papadias
>do sandwiches, but not pasta
>improve our wings
>dial-in on sauces as our best gimmick
every single fucking thread I've made has been an improvement the brand eventually made but they still won't listen to me about LESS SUGAR IN THE SAUCE

LITERALLY EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S TOO SWEET

>>21975364
nobody calls them that in-store
we call those mushrooms, dude

it's actually a legendary fumble that we started doing sandwiches but didn't bring back meatballs for it

meatball sub is like the easiest layup in history
and we just didn't do it

>>21975372
Meatballs are also the toppest tier pizza topping and are dirt cheap

>>21975378
yeah, for some reason a while back we dropped them from the menu. I am not alone in thinking that the oven-toasted sandwiches are a perfect time to bring them back. They're not even a "troublesome" ingredient, the way that vegetables are. We never freeze anything, but meatballs keep very well in refrigeration, and when they ARE on the menu people DO order them. But not enough for just pizzas.

But if you add a meatball parmesan sub to the mix....well there you go....
but for some reason the 3 sandwiches they decided to roll out with are:
>Philly Cheesesteak
>Chicken Bacon Ranch
>Steak & Mushroom
seems a bit redundant, right? Steak and Mushroom is pointless. Swap that for a meatball sub EZ any day.

>>21975380
>Two steak sandwiches
How much beef does papa johns order/go through? I would think with beef prices constantly rising corporate would want to REDUCE beef purchases not add more demand

>>21975381
That's why I think it's so weird, beef isn't THAT popular. If it was, it would be beef meatballs.
but usually it's like
>Pepperoni
>Italian Sausage
>Canadian Bacon
>Beef or Philly Steak
>Pineapple (I know but it's #4 at least here)
>Jalapeno or Green Pepper
>Mushroom or Onion
>Bacon

that's really the bulk of what we're doing here, which is crazy because our best pizza on the menu actually involves almsot none of that

the best thing we have is a Thin-Crust with Tomato, Chicken, light alfredo sauce, and spinach
But my personal favorite, maybe a secret menu hack which I've mentioned in these threads before is as follows:
>thin crust
>light BBQ sauce
>philly steak
>onion
>bacon
>WELL DONE
it's the BBQ steak n' bake, and it tastes just like eating brisket
it should be a real menu item but corporate WON'T LISTEN TO ME

>>21975368
>LITERALLY EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S TOO SWEET
Same reason I won't buy DiGiorno frozen pizzas.
Papa John's in Airzona was great. For whatever reason the franchisee locations in Virginia were dogshit and consistently undercooked everything. I've since moved to PA but haven't tried it here.

>>21975386
oh also our boneless wings are really good even though they're basically just big chicken nuggets
they're still good because they're BIG honkin chonks of pure white breast meat
>>21975392
yeah, the best frozen pizza is Red Barron classic crust
every real nigga knows that

>>21975392
also yes your experience will vary greatly based on the location
and the team running it

it's either team retard or team knows-what-they're-doing

>>21975392
>and consistently undercooked everything
sorry to reply 3 times but this is also important, mostly for any motherfucker working at papa johns who might be reading this

CHECK YOUR OVEN TEMPS YOU MORONS
WHAT'S YOUR TIME CYCLE?
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW DO YOU

>>21975398
Duhhhhhh I put the pizza on da conveya baws

>>21975399
correct
but
WHY did you put it there?
and when?
think jamal, think!

also how do you guys feel about this idea

why not just a Pepperoni sandwich?
double pep just to make sure it's filled up, but basically just a pepperoni sandwich
I don't know why we wouldn't do that, seems like a popular idea

>>21975412
Usually that's too much bread, but it works with flatbreads and calzones

>>21975414
yeah I'm thinking like literally just cheese and pepperoni dialed in on the right ratios so it's not soggy
fucking crazy that we're not offering that

>>21975417
do you believe in cocaine and eating 1,33 pizzas per day like your pater?

>>21975426
you don't have to believe in cocaine, it believes in you
and yes they did papa wrong
they did him dirty and it wasn't fair

>>21975315
Marco's is easily my favorite of those 4. I'd just start on trying to out pizza the hut and domino's first.

>>21975315
Has PJs given us a way to tell them we don't want Door Dash yet and to cancel the order if its what will deliver the pizza?

>>21975437
Actually this raises a good question
Does Papa Johns even still hire full time drivers

>>21975437
Unfortunately no. There was a partnership deal made, and they tried to phase out real drivers, but it isn't really working out long-term. I don't know how long the Doordash deal is for, but we're kind of locked-in on that. Nobody is happy about it.

>>21975445
We do still hire drivers at some locations. Some don't. It depends on volume and individual managers. Most who are worth their salt still realize that having actual company drivers is obviously superior
Doordash is ass and everybody knows it

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I wish PJ's would slice their Canadian bacon instead of julienning it, it was better that way

>>21975463
agreed

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>>21975315
>we have sandwiches now
Wait I remember you had those some years back. I ordered one delivered to my hotel room while I was on a business trip. It wasn't that great desu. Just pizza toppings and pizza cheese shoved into a sub roll and the dressing was soooo warm

>>21975471
well now we have new sandwiches

Can I fart on your lap

>>21975471
Did you fuck it?

>>21975519
If by "if" you mean "your mom", yeah

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>>21975353
>sunflower oil
Why the fuck is sunflower oil being used in a sauce that already contains EVOO. Matter fact if its just a cost saving measure why doesn't corporate just use a higher volume of regular olive oil and axe the EVOO and SF oil. I have found little difference between EVOO and Regular in pizza sauce post cook

Are the Tuscan cheese sticks going to stay around? My gf orders those and would be sad if they went away.

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>>21975315
Reckoning status?

>>21975315
Dominos is cheapest in my area so i just get dominos. Tell whoever the new Papa is that if they want my business they need to price-match with the D

>>21975983
I don't think Papa is after poors dollars like yours. Keep eating your shit pizza loser.

>>21975984
If he wasn't after poor dollars he wouldn't be making pizza

>>21976099
Spoken like a true poor.

>>21975569
they're not going anywhere as far as I know, they sell really well and I don't see that changing
>>21975584
the lesson of Papa is that even when an entire room full of people says "No it's Ok, you can say the word just this one time as an example" - don't trust them
>>21975983
>>21976099
you really gotta sign up online and use those deals, it's free to make an account and that's where we throw all our best specials and coupons and shiiiiet because they want people using their app or whatever

>>21975345
So have you worked in enough locations to have a feel for the overall, meaning industry wide, product mix? I'm sure you know your location, but can you really speak for what's going on in a store two states away, at least beyond "pepperoni is the most popular topping"? Honestly just wondering how deep your experience goes.

I'm guessing the oven times get bumped so the pizzas come out 20 seconds faster, then again, and again, and eventually shit's not getting done.

I get that the sauce is sweet, but what's up with them not changing it? Is it that they've already done market research, and they'd lose as many customers as they'd gain if they changed it? Is it the pet of someone in upper management? There must be a reason.

>>21975315
Here to remind you that I haven't forgiven you for how shitty the pan pizza turned out to be.

>>21975360
They were legally allowed to steal his name because he told people not to be racist and that is a fireable offense.

>>21976120
>So have you worked in enough locations to have a feel for the overall, meaning industry wide, product mix? I'm sure you know your location, but can you really speak for what's going on in a store two states away, at least beyond "pepperoni is the most popular topping"? Honestly just wondering how deep your experience goes.
I can only speak with certainty or expertise for my area, but that's a pretty large area centered around a few major cities in a major state, which is all I should probably say. So I couldn't tell you exactly what the situation is 2 states away, but it's all more or less the same thing no matter where you go - at least that's the goal. There won't be any marked difference like a completely different kind of dough, or whatever.
>I'm guessing the oven times get bumped so the pizzas come out 20 seconds faster, then again, and again, and eventually shit's not getting done.
Yeah it's the most basic thing to keep your oven temp and time dialed in correctly but you'd be amazed how many locations just let this slip. They almost treat the oven like some kind of Warhammer 40k artifact where they don't fully understand the science behind the machine-spirit but it must be appeased. If your local papa johns always comes out doughy and underdone, that's almost certainly why.
>I get that the sauce is sweet, but what's up with them not changing it? Is it that they've already done market research, and they'd lose as many customers as they'd gain if they changed it? Is it the pet of someone in upper management? There must be a reason.
I don't know either dude, I've brought this up countless times to people above me that peoples main complaint is our sauce is too sweet. I'm always met with basically the same answer - "Yeah, we have a sweeter sauce"
It's by design and there seems to be no interest in changing it

>>21976121
I remember, and you were right. The pan fucking sucks and it's a nightmare because of all the special steps involved in both making it and getting it out of the fucking oven and into a box.
it never gets well-done enough
if there's too many toppings or the wrong kind of sauce it becomes a big goopy mess

it's not selling very well at all, I would expect them to pull the plug on it soon

>>21976133
How did they fuck it up in the first place? Pizza hut has been doing it for 50+ years. In all that time they couldn't send one corporate spy to get the secrets? Or just google americas test kitchen? I'm sure they have a recipe.

>>21976134
I dunno man, the whole thing has been a logistical nightmare. Whatever "testing" they did on this thing just does not hold up in the field.

>>21975362
>Tomato icing
Anon it isn't THAT sweet

>>21976386
i mean sure he's exaggerating but it IS way too sweet

>>21975315
Where can I get a bag of papa john's pepperoncini?

>>21976457
I actually couldn't tell you, but the good news is they're just...pepperoncini peppers, dude. There's nothing special about them, just go buy yourself some peppers. Congratulations you did it.

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Those were the days. PJs helped feed me through college

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>>21976567
yeah the best thing we have now comparatively is the papa pairings
if you're not using this deal you're like a sucker or something I dunno what else to tell you

>>21975336
>>21975345
Wait, Papa John's has improved? How long ago? That's one of my job's go tos for pizza days, but they haven't gotten it in months.

>>21975315
Oh great more shitty fast-food pizza sandwiches that are small overpriced and suck
just what everyone asked for

REPLACE THAT SHIT YOU CALL CHEESE BREAD WITH A PIZZA HUT CLONE OF THERES
YOU KNOW ACUTAL CHEESE BREAD
BRING IN SOME PASTAS TO PAIR

AND BLEEEASSEE BRING BACK THE BURGER PIZZA IT WAS SO FUCKING GOOD

>>21976785
sorry dawg but the cheesesticks are untouchable as a menu item, almost every single order has some fuckin cheesesticks with them so apparently people like them
not changing not going anywhere
>BRING IN SOME PASTAS
you don't actually want us to do pasta
you think you do but you don't
this is a bad idea and we're not gonna do it, and if we did do it it would probably kill the company
motherfucker over here wants PASTA from papa johns
>AND BLEEEASSEE BRING BACK THE BURGER PIZZA IT WAS SO FUCKING GOOD
I got good news for you dawg, it's almost certainly coming back this summer again

>>21976571
I won't participate in these data mining schemes fast food companies have taken to, and as a result, I haven't eaten any of this shit in years.
If you pay for this shit at all, you're a sucker, you can make a better pizza at home for a fraction of the cost and time.

>>21976785
and just to clarify on why pasta is a bad iea - you have to understand our stores are simply not built for it
we have THE OVEN
everything goes through THE OVEN, it's all designed around that
so you would have to have some level of pre-cooked going on here, like some marie callendars shit in a lasagna tray that was already half-done, refrigerated, and heated the fuck up again
you want that? I don't think you do
it's not like we secretly have a full kitchen hiding in the back with boilers where we can put big pots of fresh pasta or something

>>21977001
>oh no papa johns will get my phone number and know what kind of pizza I like
I get being safe about your digital footprint but really dude

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>>21975315
>little caesars is in a cease fire
a little caesefire?

>>21976131
>just let this slip

Probably Pajeet owners running the shortest cycle possible to churn out food faster and make more money.

>>21977085
Nah, there's only so much you can get away with shortening it before quality is just noticably unacceptable, and the 30s-1m you might be taking off your out-the-door times isn't really worth it
It's mostly laziness, or people just genuinely not understanding what the standards are supposed to be. I've gone to other stores before and seen how their pizzas are coming out and said "holy shit that's completely wrong that's like a 5/10 you can't serve that" only to be met with
>that's how we've always done it and nobody complains

you see people always said Papa was a bad boss but the reality is he just vigorously enforced standards and lazy motherfuckers who think they've found an easy job don't like that

>>21975315
sup dude?

>>21977176
nothin

>>21975556
sorry I missed this one
it probably is just cheaper or something or food scientists in a lab said it was the best and they're not changing it
I don't think the recipe has changed for like 20 years it's the same sauce as always, maybe the exact ratio of ingredients gets moved around but I couldn't tell you

>>21977184
i'm the anon that spoke with you many months ago about the pullaparts and the pizza cookie and how delicious they are. how's business doing? also, are the papadias gone for good?

>>21977195
Oh yeah of course I remember you
Business is good even though sales are down a bit overall, and there is some turbulence with restructuring the menu and other things
>also, are the papadias gone for good?
That's the plan. And the Papa Bites. They were just too much of a pain to make, it clogs up the makeline because of how many extra steps are involved.
You have to remember that when we on-board new people most of them are like literal fucking retards so the goal is to keep the process as simple as possible.
Generally I think we're doing the right thing by pairing down the menu to just focus on our core things like I listed earlier
>pizza, wings, sandwiches, bread-sides, sauces, deserts
It may seem counter-intuitive but the sandwiches are much easier to make and pump out than the papadias. The bites were always a stupid gimmick except for the oreo bites which nobody ever orders anymore, not enough to justify keeping them around just for that.

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>>21975378
yeah ngl meatball pizza is good when done right (whole meatballs not sliced where they dry out)

sad to hear it's going away

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anyone remember the Five Sausage monstrosity?

>>21977345
a lot of us really want to bring back the meatballs especially since the sandwiches are here now
it's retarded to not have a meatball sub

>>21977005
It's more like I don't want constant emails, every fucking day, multiple times a day, for years on end despite clicking unsubscribe a trillion fucking times. I got burned by Domino's, I'm not ever doing it again.
And yeah, since my phone number and email will then get passed around to every single Indian scammer on the planet, it really is a big deal. Do you really trust these corporations with your information? When for more than a decade, they've all proven themselves to mishandle said data?

>>21976997
>I got good news for you dawg, it's almost certainly coming back this summer again
you're making my summer
personally i really like pizza huts pasta's not sure why you cant handle the supply chain of it all or something
and people pick cheese bread because they always pick cheese bread its sunken cheese bread falacy you could probably get away with making it worse
but it get you

now please bring back pepsi50 uwu

>>21977003
>you want that?
yes yes i do
fr0zen/manufactured != bad
especially when its fast food pizza


half of cheap take out is cysco shit and while hate the concept some shit aint bad like your desserts which like everything else is just thrown in the oven

but pasta without good cheese bread is a no go but who am i to say what cattle will put up with

>>21977772
you're not getting pasta
I have fucking spoken

>>21977821
maybe not today maybe not this year but we shall see
as prophet ezekel eshmikezikebel i declare there shall come a time when all fastfood pizza joints have decent pasta

>>21977834
dude even dominoes gave up on pasta

>>21975315
Stop using sysco for your wings and I'll believe you're "focusing on quality"

>>21977860
they're not from sysco

>>21977863
The ones around here are. Might be a regional contract, though.

if papa john schattner transitioned to a woman would they rename the company to Mama John's?

>>21977865
who's john schnatter?
never heard of him

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>>21977854
>>21977892
ALL YOU RETARDS HAVE TO DO IS
GET SOME PREMADE ALFREDO PASTA
HEAT IT UP
ADD WHATEVER THE FUCK PIZZA TOPPING YOU WANT
THEN BAKE WITH CHEESE ONTOP
OH WHATS THAT WANT MORE CHEESE ADD THAT SHIT WANT WEIRD COMBOS ADD THAT SHIT DO WHAT YOU WANT BITCH

YOU CAN EVEN JUST IDK HAVE LIKE PRE MADE SUACESE MEATS CHEESE AND VEGGIES YOU PUT ON A FUCKING DOUGH

YOU JUST HAVE TO BOIL THIS DOUGH WHICH YOU CAN HAVE WAGIES EASILY DO WITH A MICROWAVE
OR HAVE FROZEN PRE BOILED PRE SAUCED DOUGH

NOW IF YOU WANT TO GET G RAZY ADD FLAVORINGS TO YOUR BREADS AND SUACES LIKE PIZZAHUT USE TO HAVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5k4avpd2sA
cant find any spots on the sauce drizzles but you could get a bunch of flavors drizzled on your pizza

>>21977892
>>21977896
you really want reheated microwave pasta slop?
no you don't
get the fuck outta here we're not doing that

>>21977908
anon microwaved pasta taste exactly the same as regular pasta but retards cant fuck it up besides burning themselfs but theres hot ovens for that

>>21975412
I'm from Europoor, stoping by just to say I love your threads, really entertaining, and would love for europoor brands to do the same shit

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>>21976131
> They almost treat the oven like some kind of Warhammer 40k artifact where they don't fully understand the science behind the machine-spirit but it must be appeased.
and that's exactly why I come to these theeads

Dominos is fucking shit and so is papa johns. Thats like the lowest quality pizzas. If you want a good pizza you have to pay more money. Pay enough and the product becomes enough. Fail to achieve and experience fail.

>>21977854
Here in Aus, Dominoes and Pizza Hut are still making pasta, and the latter makes a pretty tasty lasagna.
There is a world where you guys get your pasta back, and that world is a bright one.
As an aside, I don't think I've ever seen a Papa John's here, is there a reason they haven't tried to expand and compete in other countries?

>>21978192
actually that's a good question, we have stores in over 50 different including fucking Kazakhstan but nothing in Australia
honestly couldn't tell you why

>>21978753
time to break in the market

still waiting for your collab with Doughtoli and Doughjoe

>>21975336
I always liked how papa johns gives you free dipping sauce and those little peppers with every pizza. even if their pizza is kinda dogshit I still get it every once in awhile because of that. it's the little things that go a long way these days. places that charge you for a fucking dipping sauce can eat shit.

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Papa John's outside the US would blow everyone's minds

>>21979089
It’s not free you fucking unbelievable nigger. You can’t create something without first destroying something. They include it in the price.

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>>21975315
Damn OP your shilling worked. Was thinking about pizza tonight and saw this thread. Ordered the Papa pairings like >>21976571 suggested. Wings are better than I remembered. Not bad for fast food wings.

>>21975315
Why should I pay more for Papa johns than Pizza Hut or domino's?

>>21979343
Because, ostensibly, our product is superior in taste and quality. Your mileage may vary for several reasons, some of which are covered in this thread.

>>21979343
>$6.99 for a medium pizza is paying more

>>21979334
That makes me happy, but I'm forced to nitpick, they could have done a better job evenly distributing the actual pepperon-per-slice, and I'm curious exactly what sauce that is on the wings? The color of the sauce doesn't exactly look right but maybe it's a lighting thing.
Anyway glad you enjoyed, and yeah it's not the worst deal in the world especially if you can do carryout and skip the delivery fee
At least the oven is calibrated properly, that's obvious. Our wings are actually surprisingly good yes as (though I prefer them well-done, I prefer everything well done from our menu but that's just me)
glad you enjoyed anon

>>21979347
to be fair, it's only 1 topping
I think the papa pairings should be a medium 2-topping but I guess we can't have nice things

>>21979350
>>21979334
also whoever was catching the oven and boxed it up did a good job cutting evenly and all the way through and did not oversauce the wings so kudos to him too
it's the little things
how disappointing is it when you get a pizza and it wasn't cut cleanly all the way through, and the slices have to be pulled apart?

>>21979334
Only six slices on a medium? We cut ours into eight, a narrow slice is easier to dip - which makes sense because dips are the highest margin item on the menu (at Panago in Canada).

People often shit on PJ's for being shit, but I would much rather have PJ's than Pizza Hut or Domi-NOs, desu. The one closest to my house is just an absolute W

>>21979420
Especially the wings and the boneless wings. they make them so delicious at my place

>>21979420
Pizza slut and dominos are bottom tier trash. Papa Johns isn't great but it's still better than them. There's plenty of local options around here that I haven't felt the need to order from any of them in years.

>>21979388
that's the NY style, it's cut into 6 slices and the edge of the crust is thinnger, since it's supposed to be foldable

>>21979420
>>21979431
>>21979422
genuinely warms my heart to hear some positive feedback instead of just the usual "you were good when I was in elementary school in 1998"
and yeah the boneless wings are pretty good, I already touched on that earlier but they're actually big chunks of good white meat and the breading with our oven cycles makes them come out perfectly
i snack on them often