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Grim af. How would you fix it?
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>>21979612
We need to get more of these brown boys working it up at the mart. Our money should increase by another 50% over the next 8 years. Money is useful, it’s not like an endgame strategy or anything to beat this rpg we’re in. It doesn’t actually even do anything I’m pretty sure. My dads a wealthy owner, we’re descendants from slave traders and stock traders who work closely with Fortune 500.
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>>21979617
calm down Muhammad
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>>21979617
Joke's on you because if they kill the volunteer force you'll get drafted. Let us professionals do the job while you seethe at your computer.
Far from the greatest but actually decent field food I got. It's not always bad. Just mostly.
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>>21979612
It's not a ration, MREs are more "complete"
It's a dinner from the galley on an Aircraft Carrier
He picked a dismal meal for himself, and then took a picture of it
t. veteran
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>>21979680
Yeah he didn't pick it it's just worst case scenario of field chow. I was a scout and we typically worked at night and missed dinner hours and this looks like the "yeah this is all we have" food we got because the cooks were too fucking lazy to cook for us and gave us leftovers. Had to steal bread and pbj loaves when they gave us bullshit food and when they said we couldn't do that we just told them to fuck off and took it anyways. Good times.
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>>21979612
As a senior officer I can say meals are of such poor quality not because the military cannot afford it but because the only way for senior officers to get promoted is to submit a plan to change the military that's beneficial so that you can put on your resume and say you've done something. Just doing your job isn't enough, you need to show 'initiative' by coming up with this stupid shit. And every time it's something that sounds good on paper (i.e. cutting costs to save money) but is always detrimental. This is the reason behind most bad policy changes in the military. You think some officer came up with the idea to have everyone do PT in ridiculous high vis belts because they cared about safety? No, they submitted that idea because they knew it would look good on their resume and help them get promoted.
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>>21979669
>Joke's on you because if they kill the volunteer force you'll get drafted.
The public won't allow a draft unless there's a very good reason for it. You "professionals" are literally just mercenaries doing the dirty work of bankers and politicians. Moral people would refuse to engage in the objectively evil wars of aggression and greed that you "volunteers" enable. Without your service, the federal government wouldn't be able to kill women and children across the globe. We thank you.
Now get out there and die for Israel, please.
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>>21979789
>Won't allow
The public doesn't control the draft. The government does. If they choose to enact it, that means people who don't have good excuses have to get drafted or you go to prison.
So yeah, you should be happy there are people willing to do it so we don't have to. Because there is no way I'm joining the military currently, I would rather go to jail. Maybe think before posting something as stupid as you just did.
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>>21979793
Only poorfags join the army because they couldn't afford college if their lives depended on it and if they were smart enough to avoid the military they'd have a scholarship or trade job. The military now primarily runs on what used to be called "McNamara's Morons" or barely functioning sociopaths on the Officer Route.
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>>21979800
Yes, the government can technically decide to institute a draft any time they want. But if they do it without strong public support, they can and will encounter every kind of resistance. If the public was willing to engage in massive riots over George Floyd, bad enough that mobs of thousands of people were taking over entire downtown city areas for weeks on end, overwhelming police forces to the point that mobs were burning down entire police stations, do you really think that something at least as bad couldn't be expected if, say, Trump decided we need a draft for this current war that has something like 10% public support?
So Trump says there's a draft, people refuse to go and start rioting, police can't contain it, what's the next step? Send in the army, the national guard. Literally
>you don't want to join the army? we're going to send in the army to force you to join the army
And oh look, now you're fighting your own people instead of whatever nation you're at war with. Do you think the average American has become more or less patriotic since the 1970s? Go read about some of the Vietnam protests and consider what they would look like today.
>Maybe think before posting something as stupid as you just did.
I know that public schools are just indoctrination factories at this point but I still wish they would teach you SOMETHING about your country's recent history.
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Photo source is "Anonymous sailor on the USS Abraham Lincoln", according to USA Today. According to /k/ the meat is actually the guts of a commercial food service 'gyro'.
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>>21979793
jokes on you actually. I'm too old to get drafted.
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According to /k/ it's the meat out of a cheap commercial food service gyro. Given there were other photos in the article showing SoaS made with pita bread, I suspect they're correct.
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>>21979612
what the fuck even is that
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>>21979612
Prisons unironically have better food.
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>>21979617
Thats not fair. If this was Ancient Rome and you were a soldier you'd be eating far better than the shit in OP.
>bread
>grapes
>fish
>water
>nigga thats nuts
>plums or tiny bananas or some shit
>slaughtered a lamb or deer and we can eat five days this week instead of two
What am I even seeing in the OP photo? I thought that was the underside of a catfish
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>>21982833
Nobody said they'd eat everyday. In fact I explicly implied they don't have enough meat for the entire week. But you honestly think the Romans can't find some sheep, rabbits, deer, pigs, goats, etc. to kill? Not even talking about while they're stationed in the city. I mean on the war marches they could kill the wildlife. Same with the fruit.
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>>21982833
>Ancient Rome
>fish
on campaign far more likely to get salt pork and polenta(not corn) porridge than fish. they also ate a lot of garlic and onions. dried fruit and vinegar to drink
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>>21979612
>How would you fix it?
Fix what? The photoshop job? Those trays are bright yellow IRL (see >>21982783 ), so the photo has clearly been desaturated and given a gray-green color tint.
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>>21982838
Unironically there hasn't been a legit/necessary war since the Revolutionary war in 1776. Even the Civil War was conpletely unnecessary. WW1? Dragged into it because Lusitania was sunk. But was that actually worth involving ourselves? WW2? Same shit but with Pearl Harbor. Cold War? No one fell for it so it ended mutually without blowing up the world. 9/11? Inside job to justify a military presence.
Take it back even further to the Crusades. No one actually belived they needed to own the land where Christ died. That was an excuse so the priests and the politicians could cull the squires and kill some brown people. All those souls. Damned because they were called to kill their fellow man on foreign land and the story repeats every decade. Its sad. It really is.
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>>21982877
>That was an excuse so the priests and the politicians could cull the squires and kill some brown people.
the sugar trade and slaves. everywhere the templars went surprise! sugar plantations! no one cares about browns(except americans)
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>>21979612
let them eat israeli persimmons
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>>21979856
>the elected offices are filled with public servants, not rulers or leaders.
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No I was wrong I should have said fig.
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That's just confirming >>21982900 (You) #>
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>bananas is impossible
Not even remotely. Romans reached as far as Vietnam and bananas are native to Southeast Asia. Even if they never got to SEA, Romans had numerous permanent trading outposts in Southern India, where bananas reached about 5000 years ago. The curved yellow fruit was already well-established and favoured by locals by the time the Romans got there. It's not a stretch to conclude that Romans ate bananas.
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Drafting to fill gaps in manpower is fucking retarded and why there was huge backlash against the draft during Vietnam and tons of cases of fragging. The point of conscription is that you have it BEFORE going to war so that you have a huge pool of manpower who've gone through basic training already and can be sent to the frontlines immediately.
The Soviets were able to form entire armies overnight because they had mandatory 2 year conscription for 20 years by WWII so every man between 18 and 40 could be called up, handed a rifle and know how to fire it, basic combat tactics and military discipline. In contrast the US in Vietnam was grabbing young men off the streets and sending them into combat after a couple weeks basic training.
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>>21983930
Because the average roman soldier was no where near SEA and they did not have the logistical capabilities to keep bananas fresh long enough to ship to rome since they were on the opposite side of the globe and even if they did it would be strictly reserved for the upper class, not a fuckin soldier.
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based garloid-scholars
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>>21983930
For one, Rome didn't send soldiers to their trading outposts. "Yavana", the word for Greco-Roman people in the ancient Chera kingdom of Southern India where those outposts were, occasionally had contact with mercenaries working for the merchants and sometimes even hired by the Cherans themselves, but proper garrisoned soldiers simply weren't placed that far east. Persia was general as far as they went. The statistical probability of any Roman soldier (not a mercenary) having had a banana is closer to zero than to one.
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They might have known it existed but never had one. Pliny described "an Indian tree" with 'leaves large enough to provide shade one by one' and while it's not confirmed with absolute certainty to be banana, nothing else really fits. Yes, bananas aren't technically trees, but they're large enough that ancient people would mistake them for trees in the same way they mistake dolphins for fish.
Indian fig species with relatively large leaves, such as sacred fig or that other one I can't remember the name of right now, were still not nearly big enough to provide shade individually. Taro leaves could but there's no way to mistake that for a tree.
Pliny likely never had a banana but was likely aware of them.
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well japan attacking us was a pretty good reason to go to war, even if it was the equivalent of a cornered animal lashing out and there was virtually 0 chance they were going to win the greater war. then again the average american wouldn't have known this at the time.
kinda makes me think: what if WW2 was during the age of the internet? based on what we've seen in the past half-decade you just know there'd be paid shills everywhere on the internet saying the yankees are losing the war, from taking midway all the way to the shores of okinawa.
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>>21986155
The minute Roosevelt finished the Day of Infamy speech half of /pol/ would be flooded with 1pbtid shitposts about how much of a kike slave he is, the other half would be jeets talking about how awesome Hitler and Mussolini are.
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>>21986155
>well japan attacking us was a pretty good reason to go to war
It was almost too convenient. At the very least they knew it was coming and did nothing. Just like 9/11.
>what if WW2 was during the age of the internet?
The internet can be extremely strictly controlled if push comes to shove. I guess we'll see if current shenanigans escalate. But yeah, so far it's information warfare, bot activity and astroturfing.
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>>21983392
Fragging happened primarily because it was the members of the "Me" generation getting drafted. The same Me generation that would sell their children's soul for a few dollars and vote for them to die for israel.
No other generation of people have ever or will ever be so greedy as to shoot down their countrymen during war and destroy their own country in retirement over their own childish temper tantrums. People talk about Millennials as the generation that never grew up, but Boomers are a thousand times worse.
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>>21979669
That's more what i'd expect of a military meal. The image in OP just doesn't seem like it could be real. You got guys in a warzone running on 8oz of protein and some carrots? Where are the carbs? I'd imagine they keep tons of rice, and potatos on board any large vessel, desu.
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What a bunch of welfare babies.
Napoleon didnt even bother feeding his troops. It was their own responsibility to feed themselves. If they couldnt find food, they didnt eat.
And he conquered Europe with those men.
You think modern soldiers would ever do anything like that? They would throw themselves down and cry the first time they missed a meal.
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>At the very least they knew it was coming and did nothing.
i can give more lienency to FDR's government since it was way smaller then. they knew japan was going to lash out at some point but not exactly how. could we have put in more defenses for pearl harbor? probably. but you can't protect against all surprise attacks.
>Just like 9/11.
now that was 100% a failure of our modern american bureaucracy with multiple agencies/interests all competing with each other.
>>21986161
>The minute Roosevelt finished the Day of Infamy speech half of /pol/ would be flooded with 1pbtid shitposts about how much of a kike slave he is
kek very true.
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>>21979612
needs a drink and some wetness to it