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eating carbs + fat make the fats go to storage and the carbs to use. randle cycle.
eat either low fat or keto both werk

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>>21984529
This, pic related drinks only raw milk (fattest milk) and water, and eats only eggs, butter and steak. But since zero carbs his fat intake basically acts as carbs.

In general the average person today has wayyyyyy too much carbs in their diet. I'm not a "zero carber" but I do believe you should significantly limit your carb intake, and cut out all processed carbs like bread, sugar etc. unless you have an extremely demanding physical job, but most people do not.

Things tasting good is the reason people overeat in the first place.
Aint nobody on my 600lb life eating 10 pounds of oatmeal every day.

>>21984536
That needs to clean his mirror

>>21984536
classic roidtranny hairline

>>21984572
Anon you'd have to be a major fatass to think that's roiding.

>>21984529
Your body isn't going to store fat and not use it just because you also consumed carbs unless maybe you're constantly overeating. At that point trying to blame it on the Randle cycle is silly. Plenty of athletes consume both fat and carbs together but they're still lean and muscular.

>>21984536
>In general the average person today has wayyyyyy too much carbs
The average person is getting too much of both fat and carbs because a large amount of fat and carbs being consumed are both refined which makes them less filling. Try eating nothing but fresh fruit and whole nuts and you'll struggle to maintain normal weight. The average person is probably eating cookies more often than that.

>>21984536
>This, pic related drinks only raw milk ...But since zero carbs
Milk has a bunch of carbs dude. It has 12g of sugar per 8oz.

>>21984584
Actually you're right, I forgot about that

If you add milk powder to milk it makes the milk extra milky

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>>21984596
double milk is a recipe for disaster

>>21984626
But I need my barrows gloves

>>21984529
A better meme diet is the shotgun shell diet. You only need to eat one and you're good for life.

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>>21984596
Or just drink the real full fat milk: cream.

>>21984648
that's still like 60% water. you need to be drinking the real full fat milk, melted clarified butter.

>>21984648
i'll make vodka sauce and then with the leftover cream i'll just sip on it for a little bit. god it's so fucking good, better than most desserts

>>21984536
>>21984529
low carb diet puts your body into a high stress state with high cortisol and adrenaline. terrible for your thyroid and metabolism. you wIll be obese in middle age and die of cancer

>>21984514
Thoughts on raw milk? Serious answers ONLY

>>21984663
tastes good

>>21984662
shhh let them follow their right wing grifter diets and learn things the hard way. they're going to fail them a couple weeks in anyway but still shill them here

>>21984663
Just get pasteurized non-homogenized milk.
Actually witness how milk is produced firsthand, and you will understand why it's pasteurized.

>>21984663
it probably does have slightly better nutrition, tastes better, and is easier to digest. but it also comes with an increased risk of food poisoning that could be severe.

i would like to try raw milk eventually but i have zero issues with pasteurized milk and don't think the increased risk of food poisoning is worth it. there are companies working on methods to make raw milk just as safe but until that's more accessible i probably won't care too much to seek it out.

>>21984670
what

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>>21984586
>tfw you prove someone wrong and win an argument about milk on an indonesian puppy wrestling forum

>>21984663
Serious answer is, its live food.
Imagine if u are to cook all of your food. So no raw fruits, no raw salads, no sashimi, etc.
Will anything bad happen to you? Will you die? The opposite in fact. Its much safer if all of your foods were cooked.
Now imagine eating like this for years and years. Then one day, you taste a piece of raw fruit. Do you think it will taste fucking amazing? I think it would.
Why? Because its alive. Im not a scientist so im not gonna try to explain it scientifically, but essentially thats the reason.
Pasteurlzed milk is safer, of that there is no doubt. But its missing something. And until youve experienced that something, you wont get it.
You can still get live dairy food in the form of cheese. Many cheese, like parmigiano and roquefort, are raw by law.

>>21984677
Exactly. Amish folks in my area sell that, it’s got a cream top and everything. It’s so delicious

>>21984713
>You can still get live dairy food in the form of cheese. Many cheese, like parmigiano and roquefort, are raw by law.
Aged cheeses are too dry and salty for microbes to live very long. Even in the USA, raw cheeses are legal if aged over 60 days because it mostly kills even harmful bacteria. You'd be better off with something like unpasteurized yogurt or kefir if you want it to be probiotic.

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>>21984514
Based. Shoutout to all my homies who grew up drinking flavourless skim/reduced milk because of the boomer "fat makes you fat" meme. With summer coming, there's nothing like a tall glass of ice-cold whole milk on a hot day.

>>21984827
i like my milk room temp

>>21984834
>>21984827
I like it warm
Right before bed

>>21984858
With some honey and turmeric or yall just tryna keep it simple?

>>21984529
the randle cycle is one of the biggest new memes in the nutrition space, it exists but it ain't that serious
not drinking milk because it'll make you fat because le randle cycle is just retarded lmao

>>21984529
low fat is the worst thing you can do.

avoid sugar and reduce fat but never give up fat.

>>21984869
It depends my mommy makes it different ways

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>>21984901
That's nice : )
Mama love

>>21984869
I've never tried it with turmeric even though I've seen it a lot. I usually have it plain, sometimes with honey, if I want more than that then I'll also add cinnamon and vanilla.

>>21984858
I keep it simple but I kinda wanna try that

>>21984529
I choose door number three, fastingchads rule this universe.

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>>21984889
its for metabolic health not for losing weight
>new memes
its fucking ancient, but still around because it has merit

>>21985076
Metabolic health is mostly tied to exercise, limiting processed foods, and maintaining a healthy weight. Worrying about something like the Randle cycle is like trying to optimize one more percent, the effort will far outweigh the benefits if there are even any for people who aren't already diabetic or something.

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>>21985089
do you hold this opinion just because you cant stop eating like dogshit
sorry son but you just gotta put up the effort

>>21985103
I don't really eat junk food. Kinda crazy to think your only two options are worrying about the Randle cycle or junk food binges. I said you should limit junk food.

>>21985137
the common thread with junk food is bunch of fast carbs+fat. you enjoy bread or pasta with fats?

>>21984514
It's a difference of 20 calories per 100 ml, between 1% and whole milk.
Literally meaningless.

>>21985158
That's more of an issue with heavy processing and refining. You can eat fruit and nuts for fat and carbs but it still won't lead to weight gain like cookies.

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>>21985175
yes hyperpalatable food makes you overeat
>You can eat fruit and nuts for fat and carbs but it still won't lead to weight gain
you just pivoted back, refer to >>21985076 again
i know carbs with a ribeye and bunch butter or whatnot is yummy, but you can't consider that shit healthy

>>21985185
Metabolic health and body weight are closely linked. People who eat well and are active and at normal weights aren't suffering from metabolic diseases because they eat fat and carbs together.

>butter
Refined fat. I drink a lot of milk but still try to limit butter.

>>21985076
yeah okay. in a couple months whatever influencer you're getting all your opinions from will tone it down after someone points out how wrong they are and then you'll have permission to enjoy a delicious glass of whole milk again, I look forward to the day on your behalf

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>>21985196
first bait didn't catch on troon? >>21984670

>>21985206
different guy.
anyway I agree with the broad strokes of what you're saying but applying it to whole milk of all things is retardedly overzealous, it follows the typical pattern of nutrition influencer memetics in which they learn of a concept and then construct these insane hard and fast rules around it (oh PUFA is bad? ZERO PUFA EVER! oh the randle cycle exists? NEVER MIX FAT AND CARBS!) which are stupid and counterproductive, a little nuance never hurt. if you are already metabolically healthy you barely need to worry about the randle cycle at all and in fact *should* eat all 3 macros together in individual meals (though ideally your overall macro mix should tend towards being carb- or fat-dominant)
even ray peat drank a lot of milk :^)

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>>21985219
ok i aim for 10 % fat from energy on brekkie & lunch, and 20-30g carbs on dinner (or lunch too, if im sedentary that day). seems to give me best energy levels.
high protein for all.

>>21984821
Thanks. Good info.

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>>21984536
>raw milk (fattest milk)
Raw milk is skim milk. The cream rises to the top and you skim it off with a spoon for use in your cooking, leaving you with literally skimmed milk. "Whole milk" is only possible because of industrial homogenization enabling the milk to hold more fat.

>>21985576
It doesn't immediately separate as soon as it comes out of the cow

>>21984536
>20 years old with a widows peak
don't forget the steroids also that dude looks dehydrated

I love milk bros

>>21984514
I prefer 2%

>>21985576
Or you can just shake it up to redistribute the fat

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>>21985576
No, see >>21984718
Skim milk is when most of the milkfat is removed, leaving around 0.1% to 0.3% fat. You can only get that much fat removed via a centrifuge.

>>21985624
Bro i was born with a widows peak
What does this mean