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>Those things
The return of the hated hair ties
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...I'm starting to feel really bad for Kass.
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>>152634002
At least he's getting a nice relaxing work trip to the land of screeching spastics! He'll be too busy trying to hold back the urge to kill himself and/or every other scav he meets to worry about his personal problems!
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>>152634002
After seeing “The Anomaly”, shit like this is really pounding in the idea that Kassen the human may as well be dead and buried since that evening.
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>>152634162
Considering the context clues we've gotten so far I doubt it's that extreme. It's actually entirely possible that zat zing may have even been meant for recreational use.
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>>152634181
After seeing the contents of that meat hole, I don’t see how it’s recreational, it looks fucking terrifying
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>>152634002
Starting to? STARTING TO!?
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>>152634224
There was probably a more controlled means of application originally.
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>>152634224
its a polymorphic mutagen intended to convert a sufficient ammount of biomass into a scav. you dont make something like that to just leave around, so it's probably old xenoforming gear or a "medication" intended to be perscribed under controlled conditions. safe and mundane in the same way ammonia and bleach are household chemicals
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>>152634293
It ate a hole through the floor. Several feet deep.
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>>152634315
A damaged phone can explode and start a fire that water can't put out. If someone from 1900 saw that happen they would assume it was probably some kind of weapon. No imagine finding hyper advanced gene tech that had likely been laying in a tidal pool for a 100 years.
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>>152633987
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>>152634002
He's had a hard go of things
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>>152633987
surrendered to tranny urges, dropped.
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>>152635483
They're just hair ties
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>>152635558
>They're just hair ties
>They're just girl clothes
>It's just HRT
>It's just a little surgery
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>>152635721
>It's just HRT
>It's just a little surgery
I dont think kass has to worry about those things
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Did anyone really expect a tf story not to end with the character "accepting their new gender"?

That's how literally every single fucking genderbendshit goes. Every single one. The man "surrenders to his feminine insticts". Because guess what? It's a fetish plot with a fetish story and a fetish resolution. It's all just AGP fetish content.
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>>152635933
Val has gone 11 years without falling into the bullshit and he's not about to start now.
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>>152635933
>accepting their new gender
You must be very fucking new of you think that's what this comic is about
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>>152635955
>>152636023
You're right anons, it's not happening. He's just "coming to terms" that he's not a man, no one sees him as a man, and he will never be man again, but it's not happening! Him finally getting rid of the last thing he had of his male self just to look more feminine? Doesn't count!
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>>152636092
>Him finally getting rid of the last thing he had of his male self just to look more feminine?
The hair ties are a compromise. He's not changing his human hairstyle but he still has to put up with another "imposition" from his new body.
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>>152636092
Alright nigger, what do you want Kass to do, huh? He's been fighting as hard as possible just to keep his human identity intact, despite literally everything around him trying to push him to accept his new gender and species. And now that he is making temporary contritions for extremely understandable reasons, you're going to reduce it to just fetish content? What, are you going to demand Kass fucking kill himself if he finds out the transformation can't be reversed?
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>>152636263
>it's not happening
>okay it's happening but not entirely <- you are here
>it's happening and it's a good thing
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>>152636289
>it's not happening
>Kass is having to make basic compromises to function as a yinglet
>He has the emotional intelligence of a sea cucumber leading to him seeing each of these compromises as a "surrender"
>this leads to him putting way to much importance on things like the hair ties and giving himself an existential crisis every 5 seconds
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>>152636497
>"I-it's just a basic compromise. It's just hair. It doesn't mean anything ok"
You have to be very silly to not have realized where this is going after all this time, and especially after the previous chapters.
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>>152636531
Anon, It's Kass, every conclusion he comes to on his own about this stuff is wrong because he has no idea how to handle any of it. Its just like when he saved that scav kid. He was only doing what he would normally do but he immediately had a mini panic attack because he so paranoid about his own behavior he's constantly second guessing everything he thinks or does.
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>>152636592
That's not really an argument for this, althoughbeit. It's not a question whether he is becoming progressively less connected to his identity as a human man. It's a fact. The last chapters were literally him hearing about how nobody sees him as a man anymore and going "welp, i guess they're right"
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>>152633987
Don't Val dare touch anything about Kass's hair, it's his best Yinglet part.
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Maybe the story isn't a shallow allegory for modern political positions and Kass will deal with the bullshit happening to him according to his character and personality?
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>>152636612
>It's not a question whether he is becoming progressively less connected to his identity as a human man. It's a fact.
This is what you're misunderstanding. You're thinking like Kass. His entire identity and sense of self worth were all built around his ability to help others. He was the guy everyone else relied on for, and now that's he's lost that he's completely lost sight of himself. Kass thinking he has to "accept" not being a man anymore is equivalent to a child coming to the conclusion they are now an adult because they had to walk home from school instead of being picked up by their mom.
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>>152636793
That's all very nice anon, but in reality he's still doing progressively more feminine things and becoming less thethered to his self as a MAN. Just because he's still got parts of his personality left doesn't mean he isn't becoming detached to the actual "man" parts. Because guess what? That's how EVERY MOTHERFUCKING TF STORY GOES. The man accepts becoming a female.

This would be like if you were reading some femdom comic and going "nuh uh, the protagonist is gonna stop being a pussywhipped submissive any moment now"
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Completely unrelated and I am sure no one in this thread will care about it, but today I learned about Milk-Lines.

Basically, you know how some mammals have more than just one pair of breasts? Welp, humans have some vestigial remains of it and they are set on this Milk-Lines in question.

They usually vanish at the foetal stage, only keeping the pair on the chest, but some people will occasionally develop additional ones on those lines.

Yup, it's possible to produce milk out of your armpits.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p2vY3izC7J0

The wonders of biology...

so yes, those cow TF-fetish arts that gave women an udder while still keeping their human chest WERE actually anatomically correct
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>>152635721
>>152635893
>it's just Elim smashing my head with a brick DO IT ELIM! END MY TORTURE
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>>152634162
>After seeing “The Anomaly”, shit like this is really pounding in the idea that Kassen the human may as well be dead
No, it doesn't really do that.
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>>152635933
>Did anyone really expect a tf story not to end with the character "accepting their new gender"?
Not forcibly.

>That's how literally every single fucking genderbendshit goes.
Wrong.
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>>152636824
I fundamentally disagree with you
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>>152636092
>You're right anons, it's not happening. He's just "coming to terms" that he's not a man
In the same way someone is coming to term that they have lost a leg.
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>>152636877
anon i feel like you are severely overestimating the popularity of whatever this is
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>>152636905
I am not. I am simply challenging the notion of "every single fucking genderbendshit"
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>>152636923
>Yeah well what about this random deviantart-looking comic with a readerbase of a grandtotal of three people?
Welp, I guess you're right, pedant-anon.
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>>152636824
>The man accepts becoming a female.
Again, what would you want him to do otherwise? If Kass accepts being a female, it would not be a cute "tee-hee I have a vagina don't hit on me silly boys" moment. Kass giving up his male identity would essentially be him giving in to despair and very likely becoming suicidal because of it. That is literally the crux of what is happening - every time he feels a feminine urge, or does something that could be considered feminine, he panics because he worries he's going to lose sight of who he really is. Do you seriously believe this shit is going to end with a mindbroken Kass covered in scav cocks while pregnant happily declaring that he will be nothing more than a cumdump for the rest of his days?
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>>152636943
So you admit the "EVERY SINGLE" statement has been disproven, then?
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>>152636957
I think it's gonna be some cringe "I accept being a woman but i'm still myself" or some shit, and he either swears off sex or becomes a dyke. His thoughts when he heard that horngirl was interested in him was wondering if he might still have a chance.

>>152636967
I have absolutely no fucking idea what that comic is and thus cannot disprove your statement
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>>152637011
>I think it's gonna be some cringe "I accept being a woman but i'm still myself" or some shit, and he either swears off sex or becomes a dyke.
Not forcibly. I mean, the technology exist to turn someone into a female Yinglet, there is nothing that is indicative that it's just limited to that.

You know what would be interesting? If at some point, he had to chose between either turning back into a female human, or turning back into a male Yinglet, but he can't have both.
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>>152637011
On a wider scope, anon, maybe if you have some issue with the existence of trans people, maybe you should avoid TG media as a whole.

Or even better, stop having issue with that in in the first place. Will greatly improve you live, just saying.
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>>152637084
>accept my fetish
okay whatever buddy

The only time I ever interact with any of this content is when somebody posts it on the catalog. Same reason why I interact with comics that are absolutely fucking dogshit like BCB
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>>152637118
>>accept my fetish
Telling to stop reading contents with fetish you don't like doesn't mean "accepting it" anon.

Where the fuck did you learn to read?
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>>152637145
>"Don't point out the very obvious thing that's gonna happen in the story, just stop reading, don't complain"
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>>152637171
>>"Don't point out the very obvious thing that's gonna happen in the story
That's not what I have said either, anon.
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>>152637186
If someone posts a comic on this board, I'm going to see it when i'm scrolling down, and I will comment on it.
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>>152637245
Need an edit of this with kass and a clam
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>>152636957
>Again, what would you want him to do otherwise?
kill himself probably
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Side note, but did you know that the guy behind "Lathckey Kingdom" (remember Lathckey Kingdom? People used to post it on /co/) is actually into TF?

Lathckey Kingdom itself is not TF per se, but he has made a few TF comics on his DA account.
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>>152637453
Anyway, here is one.
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The good ol "everyone is doing i" has claimed an other victim"
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>>152637453
tf is easy mode fetish no one would suspect it and it tells stories wake me up when someone pulls that off with inflation
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Apparently, God Spirits are very rare.
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>>152637494
Eh, Tex Avery cartoons had plenty of those.
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>>152634563
Kass' character has to be build like a linebacker at this point.
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HAAABOOHBOOHBOOHBOOHBOOH!
I CAN NOT DIE! WAAAAHHH!
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And an other one, but this is one is getting into weird territory (but maybe that's a good thing for any of you?)
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>>152635483
Isn't it the opposite?
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She has become a Dragon Lich Librarian, btw.

I'll stop posting, now.
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>>152637494
Remember when Shredder defeated the Turtles by inflating them like balloons? End then Michelangelo saved them by praying on some pearls ore something.
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>>152637570
It has a good workout routine to be sure
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>>152635933
"Misfile" webcomic is all about NOT accepting your new gender. Ironically the author is pro-transgenderism.
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>>152635933
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>>152637011
You are wrong because you're misunderstanding one very important detail, Vals core fetish isn't actually TF.
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>>152638099
It's interspecies romance/sex.
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>>152638086
I am not sure if it's ironic. You can see this story as acting against an administrative system that want to force a gender on you that you don't identify as.
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>>152638153
In some web-novel there was a reverse situation: some dude got TF/TG into female of another species. He then proceeds to rape himself in the new pussy with a dildo, and then forces his acquaintance to rape him. The reason? He didn't want to be "gay", so he basically FORCED himself to love males, because he's a female now.
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>>152638234
>because he-
because it's the author's fetish

it's all a fetish
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>>152638292
That doesn't mean we can't have a Watsonian explanation on top of it.
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>>152636824
>This would be like if you were reading some femdom comic and going "nuh uh, the protagonist is gonna stop being a pussywhipped submissive any moment now"

Of course I do, dom reversal is the highest form of smut there is.
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>>152638292
what's wrong with that in a webcomic
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>>152637494
willy wonka
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>>152638113
>gives yinglets furry human tits
pathetic
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>>152633987
Odd seeing the discourse this heated.
Yeah, the guy is a TF fetish person.
but the entire point of the comic is "what if someone reacted realistically and had to deal with that shit"
The mans been at it for years now with enough world building autism he even has /tg/s respect.
Personally, I dislike the genderbend part of it but it predates the height of the tranny bullshit so I highly doubt he is trying to make a statement there.
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>>152638919
Greater yinglets are likely a hybrid of human and scav dna
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>>152633987
I literally got a eyelash in my eye as I was reading this
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>>152638939
Any direction where Kass doesn't turn back or die trying is going to be considered degenerate by somebody.
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>>152638099
you're right, it's giant bone worms
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>>152639707
i wouldn't consider it degenerate, but i would consider it a waste of my time.

nta from earlier, but i don't like "just accept it" tf theming, never have.

unless they turn into a (proper) dragon. mostly because i doubt i would mind turning into a dragon much. dragons are cool.

>>152636852
perhaps his name was a clue all along.

>>152636967
not everyone means "every single" in the most broad, most literal sense when they say "every single."

it often means "every single [one that i personally recall encountering up to this point]."
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>>152639792
Do you think she actually sleeps around with guys or is it an act and she's actually just as akward as every other baxxid, who turns into a stammering mess the second she gets too close to a guy not on her family's payroll?
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Dude really needs his emotional anchor to stop lying in hospital enjoying his new open plan abdomen and high class opiates.
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>>152634002
Anon this is sissification fetish porn.
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>>152640622
I don't think you know what that means
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>>152640411
feels like the former, she's just a childish humanboo
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>>152640707
I wonder if she'll be the one to find yannit
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>>152640959
those wigs will finally be put to good use
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>>152640594
well if we're not going the "just accept it" route these things normally go down, yeah, a lot of this is explained by Elim being out of action.
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>>152636824
I swear you niggas coming into every thread are some real illiterate shit heels.
Read some actual classic literature for a damn change instead of repeating the same argument that shows up every thread
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>>152639943
>nta from earlier, but i don't like "just accept it" tf theming, never have.
The example another anon mentioned earlier about it being analogous to losing a limb seems appropriate here. In a situation like what Kass is dealing with, he ultimately has two choices: accept it (which he does not want to do), or hold onto the hope that it can be reversed and very likely fall further and further into despair with each passing day. There really is no middle ground here beyond the one he is currently inhabiting, and if that kind of story isn't your cup of tea that's fine. But there isn't anything inherently wrong with the premise, since as mentioned before it IS something that people have to deal with, albeit in less fantastical ways.
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>>152641379
Losing an arm isn't inherently sexual
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>>152634002
Nah I'm sure this is fine.
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>>152641444
trips of truth
tf fetish isn't a disability allegory

>>152641379
he hasn't succeeded in doing anything to return to some part of his normal life, which is generally considered the healthy thing for people learning to live with a missing limb to do. y'know, focus on the things they can still do.

every single time it's brought into focus it's to force him to acquiesce to some new inexplicable issue with yinglet existence. he's got nothing to anchor him to some kind of normalcy besides his friends, no positive changes to work with, and most of his time is spent being pulled into an entirely new career he is not trained for.

the story we have thus far fits either total acquiescence to answering "scav woman" when asked who he is, or total breakdown and probable suicide attempts when the fear of that happening becomes too real to continue ignoring. in a sense going "full scav" would be a kind of suicide for him, anyway.

because either he isn't feeling that fear, or he's getting by only by ignoring it. can't do that forever.

also, every time Val decides to bring up the mental effects of being a female yinglet it undermines literally every other potential plot direction besides "he'll become a scav woman who happened to have been human once but no longer cares, and likes it, actually", usually for cheap "lol, yinglets stupid" jokes. this is a theme in other yinglet transformation art Val has made. it also makes the transformation more like transmissible dementia - and the aging process of yinglets we're given suggests that's pretty much inevitable for them anyway.
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>>152641688
What you're missing is that Kass wasn't normal. His "normal" was being the guy everyone relied on as everything else in life was constantly falling apart. And now that he's physically incapable of being that guy hes left twisting in the wind. He can't just go back to normal because his normal was fucked up to begin with and now he doesn't even have that.
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>>152641861
i didn't say "normal life" anon, I said "HIS normal life"

regardless, again, losing a limb is not a proper comparison.

and the whole yinglet dementia thing means his acceptance is irrelevant. via that mechanism, his "self" is dying with his self-image whether he cares or not, but it'll die a hell of a lot faster if he stops caring.

people need to learn to sometimes take stuff like this at face value and not process all fiction looking to contrive real-world metaphors out of it.
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>>152642004
My point is that HIS normal life isn't something that he can recreate in his current situation. Everything is different now and he's having trouble coping, both as a human and as a scav. The obvious end point of Kassens current "arc" isn't acceptance or "giving up" is finding a healthy baseline for himself period.
>spoiler
Kass will likely avoid the yinglet dementia problem. His scav genetics predate the 100 years of genetic mutation thatvthe rest of their population has gone through.
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>>152642104
by yinglet dementia i mean the general effects on his mind of being a yinglet. that's been repeatedly implied to be there and undermines anything but the "furry genderbend tf fetish story" label, because that enforces acceptance of the new identity (not just the new status quo) by mechanistically/biologically creating it.

also, your suggestion is not really the obvious end when, as you say, any possible healthy baseline for Kassen as an individual is inaccessible to him. it's not completely categorical but it's close, and we are reminded of this often. no, the more consistent endpoint given other things Val has created is a complete readjustment of the definition of "healthy baseline" to "accept living as a scav," which is not only unhealthy if Kass wishes to remain even remotely who he is as a person, but literally an existential threat to his identity.

is Val equipped to handle this compellingly? so far, IMO, no. Kass' arc is a very long-winded furry genderbend tf fetish story, and it hasn't shaken that label in the slightest. the more compelling bits are the pieces of world building that have the least to do with Kass or yinglets, with the singular exception of the brief aside about the "hole." it's an autistic exploration of the mechanical details and consequences of a tf story, sure, but its idea of emotional depth there is usually just misery porn or mean spirited comedy.
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>>152642283
I'm sorry anon but I don't thinking you're correct. I think you're allowing your preconceived notions of content like this to shape your perception of events in this comic instead of taking them at face value. Kassens story is an attempt at fully exploring what this kind of transformation would do to a person, there will inevitably be adjustments and sacrifices but val is not taking us down the path of least resistance here.
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>>152642283
How does one put their sexual fetish into a story without it becoming tedious for readers who do not share that fetish? Can it be done?
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>>152642353
i've seen this play out before in miniature in works from this very author. i am taking that fact at face value.

i would be less inclined to do so if the throughline for the work over the years wasn't consistently, "Kass is not allowed to get any wins whatsoever in this subject matter." for fuck's sake, anon, there isn't even to my recollection a trivial moment of, "oh hey, yinglet anatomy does provide this minor benefit i can leverage." their primary diet rendering them as incapacitated as somebody on heroin isn't a win, it's a joke at their (and Kass') expense.

i really don't know how much longer i'm gonna give this whole thing before i bail. i've left it before and come back years later to more of the same as far as Kass is concerned. i enjoyed the other plotlines, but not sure if it was enough to make up for its slow release schedule and its other issues.
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>>152642466
certainly. the usual solution is not to make it a persistent focus, or at least not to constantly obsess over it in the narrative. certain fetishes work better than others for compelling stories.

there are probably fetishes that just don't work at all, though (tf isn't one of those, at least)
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>>152634002
He's had a hard life
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>>152642466
>for readers who do not share that fetish
it becomes horror or comedy depending on what it is
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>>152642522
>i've seen this play out before in miniature in works from this very author. i am taking that fact at face value.
Anon, there are no other works. There's some tf porn and LAM both of which are very very very different from oops.
>i would be less inclined to do so if the throughline for the work over the years wasn't consistently, "Kass is not allowed to get any wins whatsoever in this subject matter."
The big "'win" is that he's made it, and has taken his freinds and countrymen with him. Everyone's lives are now better because of what he is doing right now. That is the victory here. Being a yinglet is not a good thing, but hes been given an opportunity to make something out of it. It seems to me the reason you feel so bothered by what he's going through is because you've already decided what the outcome will be and are automatically viewing everything that happens as proof of that outcome. If you can't let that go then I don't know what to tell you.
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>>152637564
In the not too distant future, a whole suite of thunder gods will be needed to power the AI servers.
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>>152642623
>some tf porn
yeah. i take parallel themes in both at face value, because OOPs is very nearly softcore fetish pornography as is. he put tits on a rat and did a whole yinglet sex ed class, my dude. OOPs is not as different as you think.

anyway, Kass' job has gotten his best friend shanked by a scav, anon.

do you really think even an emotionally intact, human Kass would consider that a win?

you're too hyperfocused on the career portion of the needs pyramid here while the foundation is being undermined for humor and smut.
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>>152642750
>OOPs is not as different as you think.
The fact that you think that is very telling.
>do you really think even an emotionally intact, human Kass would consider that a win?
Anon, they were living in a halfway house doing grunt work with the exact same risks. Yes the benefits of kassens new position are very much a win here. I'm not saying they counteract his personal struggles but they are a tangible benefit of his current condition. The kind of "win" I presume you're looking for is eventually going to happen, but only once Kass finally manages to get a grip on the situation which is still a ways off.
>you're too hyperfocused on the career portion of the needs pyramid here while the foundation is being undermined for humor and smut.
And you're so fixated on an imaginary outcome you've thought up to fit your preconceived notions of what this is you've lost sight of everything else.
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>>152642906
since we're bouncing fixation accusations around now, you've gotten fixated on the idea that this is me complaining about something that hasn't happened yet... when the vast majority of my complaints are about things that have ALREADY been happening the same way JUST IN OUT OF PLACERS for years.

i get it, you think this is going to pay off some day or you're already happy with where it is. good for you. i'm not drawing the same conclusions you are, and i'm not satisfied with what you're satisfied with. simple as.

you don't need to white knight the furry porn webcomic. get over yourself just a little bit.
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>>152643025
>get over yourself just a little bit
You could use that advice yourself.
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no u
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>>152643025
Telling someone to get over themselves when all you've done in this thread is act like you know exactly where the story is going based off nothing but vibes is pretty fucking nutty.
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>>152639943
>not everyone means "every single" in the most broad
Yeah, but in this case, it's literally what anon said:
>>152635933
>That's how literally every single fucking genderbendshit goes.
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>>152640959
>>152641108
They'd be perfect together, two human obsessed dorks with a thing for hair
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>>152641444
>Losing an arm isn't inherently sexual
Neither are TG stories, Ranma 1/2 was not a fetishist work, as far as we know.

(Hey Ranma 1/2 is also about a self-identified man who never cease hoping ofr a cure, if you think about it)
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>>152641688
>tf fetish isn't a disability allegory
It's not forcibly one but it's one of the easiest parallel to drawn. I really don't see why you are so prone to dismiss it.
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>>152643620
i want you to point exactly on the doll to where i directly said where the comic was going to go without couching it in language that opened the possibility that it wouldn't.

sometimes with these things there's an ESL barrier at play, no judgement.

my first complaint is literally about "the story we have thus far" for fucks sake >>152641688

the other anon either wasn't reading my replies carefully or making shit up. splitting out and responding to chunks of sentences is often evidence of the former. note the use of the word "often" here means it is only a suspicion, and not a direct accusation. stay tuned for replies.

i won't be making any, though, it's almost 1am and i've decided to bail on this webcomic because its fans suck ass.
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>>152638939
The irony is that if we take the non-canon “what-if” comics that Val made as any realistic indication, Kass would have been one of the better choices to be a Yinglet ambassador due to his stubborn self-identity retention keeping him from giving into most of his new impulses and allowing him to passably act human enough among the scavs. Elim would have hypothetically settled into being an Yinglet far faster than due to Kass being there as emotional support, which means less mental turmoil but also being much less mentally there by comparison, Isher would still be as shy and unhappy at her self-image, she’d just be pissed at being a giant compared to the other Yinglets, Yannit would be…well, Yannit. And Ran would have become the biggest boy slut in all of Val Salia for the sake of science.
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>>152643784
>i want you to point exactly on the doll to where i directly said where the comic was going to go
Not that anon, but you have outright said you could tell where the comic was going.
>>152642522
>i've seen this play out before in miniature in works from this very author.
To which you have been pointed out it is in fact, his very first story.

>my first complaint is literally about "the story we have thus far"
No, your issue is about speculating on where it is going. Not the same thing.
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>>152634002
It gets even worse when you realize he has only 10 to 15 years left to live as well, due to the natural lifespan of yinglets maxing out at like 30.
And I don't think he even truly realized this yet.
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>>152636825
Woah.
Future perverts are gonna have a field day with genetic modifications.
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>>152634002
He definitely needs a big win soon, because he is on the verge of a pretty big mental collapse.
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>>152644265
There is a chance he has slightly longer to live. Vizlet mentioned he currently appears significantly younger than her.
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>>152643784
You are very autistic
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>>152643684
she would have to get over all the worm murder urges first
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>>152644648
>Alright, Anon, show him what he's won!
>>152645285
>Five more years as a scav!
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>>152646107
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>>152634002
I wonder what the reaction will be when he shows up to the enclave with a baxxid and a dino lady
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>>152646384
Do they even know they're coming?
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>>152633987
To contribute in an actual bit more constructive way to the discussion, this is how Kass actually looks like with the hair-rings.

Not much of a departure from his usual style, IMO

(additionally, this is also how he looks like where he is finally about to completely break down, seeing we are also talking about that).
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>>152647963
I think he cares more about "needing" the hair rings than how they actually impact his appearance
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>>152647995
Both issues are linked, from what I understand.
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>>152642353
>There is no precedent
Viracroix is definitely lying, there.
He definitelly knew about the recent finding of the artefact as well as its actual potential, otherwise, there wouldn't have been such a standing order about reporting anyone asking about Yinglet transformation in the first place.

There HAS To have been precedents and he knew about it.

There is no other explanation for such a precise order to exist that actually make sense.
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>>152648797
I don't think he specifically knew about that specific artifact I think there was a standing order to report ANY weirdness involving yinglets. I think he's aware that scavs have been collecting antiquities, and I'm 90% sure his motivation for getting cozy with vizlet is to one day gain access to the central enclaves, but I don't think he knows everything about what's going on.
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>>152643784
Dude, just stop reading- nobody here is telling you that you SHOULD read it or that this is a comic you should enjoy.

It's not some commitment you're bound to, you're not paying a subscription for media that promised to be the kind of story you enjoy but isn't fulfilling the promises it sold itself to you as.

You lose absolutely nothing by simply not reading this one piece of media out of hundreds of millions available to you. There's a whole world out there, go, find something that you enjoy!

Otherwise, it's like you hate romantic comedies- and you see a poster for a new romantic comedy, and your choice is to say "Oh I bet I'd hate that," but then proceed to sit down for 90 minutes to watch it while saying how much you hate it, and then afterwards, telling everyone how much you hated it.

If reading this thing is filling you with the need to argue with people on the internet until 1am, then just change the channel, man
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>>152648797
Given the level of autism in this thread I don't think subtextual implications like this are something certain anons are going to be aware of.

I mean, for goodness sake, somebody in this thread had an honest-to-god "uhm it's not ackshually ALWAYS" nitpicker moment earlier. That's like meme tier autism.
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>>152644277
And that's how you end up with yinglets
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>>152648020
He needs them...but he knows they make him look more feminine, and hot, even to humans. Little Korra-flavored rat-bird.
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>>152650269
...I wasn't even thinking about that. Hm.
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>>152648797
If I recall, there's been a standing office that works in Antiquities; additionally, this happens right about the time Viracroix is attempting to work with the local Yinglet enclave. I don't think there's a protocol for this exact situation, since the record-keeper fucked off for an extended period of time, but it was Antiquity-adjacent enough to catch attention. He's probably telling the truth in someone being transformed like this is unprecedented.
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>>152651356
Im almost certain zat zing/greater yinglets were created as a new way for humans to get high
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goodnight bump
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>>152633987
I don't kike yinglet fingers have degraded from having small pads under them to being mostly just pads with nail attached.
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>>152653695
Thanks, now I can't unsee it. Seems to be a real thing based on lemurs but that doesn't make it not distracting.
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>>152653695
Pretty much all of the creature designs got updated over time to include more detail and a better sense of scale. Yinglet "hands" were one of the first things he improved on, since when the comic started val drew them so small they didn't really have any features at all. Also fun fact, did you know isher didn't get her raptor talons until page 43 (81 pages into the comic)
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>>152638939
It's funny seeing some of the comments on this comic in the places it gets posted to. There's a lot of projection in them sometimes.
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>>152654026
I'm starting to think that a lot of people online right now legitimately cannot comprehend the existence of long form webcomics.
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i want to feel lopin's footpads on my cock
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>>152649478
>"uhm it's not ackshually ALWAYS" nitpicker moment earlier.
Anon here. I brought it precisely because that anon that brought up "every single fucking [time]" used it as an argument of inevitability with no possible exception.

In this case, I do'nt think it was out of place to consider he meant to be literal.
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>>152654108
That reminds me, I wonder if kass ordered those shoes
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I4ll probably storytime A Kat's God-Awfull Blessing on /co/ at some point, even get to make its own dedicated threads whenever it update afterwards, but until then...

Is that good or bad advice?
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>>152654382
If you’re interested in it enough to do an entire storytime thread, you might as well. With how many shit threads there are on this board, it’s at least a subject dedicated to a webcomic.
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>>152654431
Main problem is that I have to basically piece together each pages because not only does Webtoon not allow to just right-click and save and it's a pain-in the ass to get the image (have to basically download the whole html page), but it also has each page separated in little bit and I have to piece them back together. Might take a while.
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>>152641306
>Read some actual classic literature for a damn change instead of repeating the same argument that shows up every thread
Is this just an elaborate way to call them an idiot? What substance is there to saying this; are you referring to a specific classic with a relevant analogue? Perhaps the one in the posted image which I do not recognize?
>>152649248
>You lose absolutely nothing by simply not reading this one piece of media out of hundreds of millions available to you. There's a whole world out there, go, find something that you enjoy!
They clearly enjoy or see some substance out of the given story or they wouldn't care so much as to discuss it in depth. Shutting down conversation by telling another to merely consume some other media as product is both disrespectful to them and to writing as a discipline.
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>>152654444
Try jdownloader2
Works with nearly everything
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>>152643684
she is so cute. I hope she's ok
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>>152655049
deceased
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>152654316
>he still doesn't get that it was obvious exaggeration after having it explained directly twice
this is ADVANCED autism
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>>152654658
The image refers to Ovid's Metamorphoses
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Would Kass getting properly dicked fix or make more problems
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>>152655435
I don't believe it, bug is strong
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>>152655744
Immediate murder suicide
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>>152644277
>OOPS ALL NIPPLES!
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>>152655788
worm is stronger
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>>152655947
worms want peaceful coexistence and will help bug overcome her mental conditioning through hyuuuman hair-touching
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>>152654047
With attention spans shot to hell by the engagement algorithms, it's no wonder.
But I mean more like people trying to self-impose whatever identity issues they may or may not have upon Kass during certain pages. Some of the hypocrisy on display in such comments would be funny if it weren't so sad.
But at least Val knows how to navigate himself online. That guy won't even make a twitter account even if it would boost his exposure. He's in it for the love of the craft.
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>>152654382
>Is that good or bad advice?
can you afford to fail if things don't pan out?
have you ACTUALLY looked at the market to see if there is a niche to be filled?
can your price be competitive?
that advice is 20% how you should START to think about opening a business and 80% good vibes and hopes
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>>152655503
>he still doesn't get that it WASN'T an exaggeration despite being explained twice.

Once again, when you argue for inevitability, the absolute is meant literally.
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>>152656079
That's what I'm getting at, it's not just attention spans it's the content they're being exposed to as well. If the only comic media you're exposed to are short form gag, porn, and political comics, that becomes your baseline for everything. So now we have a growing population of people online who try to force everything into those boxes because they don't know anything else.
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>>152633987
huh
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>>152658061
There's little difference between the young people and the old people right now in this regard. Facebook reels have brain-rotted the elderly just as much as tiktok has for the kids.
What's utterly bizarre is that the old people should remember a time when they themselves had more of an attention span.

As for the little boxes, I think I blame TV tropes for that a little (I think OOPs is actually listed on there). If you label something, you can also mislabel it. If all people have are mislabels, then of course they'll call an apple a grape.
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It's cool seeing all these human kass panels again
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>>152633987
What
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>>152658771
>>152662465
It sucks to get hair in your big rat bird eyes
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>This is why you wash your yinglet before bringing it home
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>>152662697
>lore page
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>>152662697
>You will immediately be arrested for doing so
OUI YOU GOT A LOISENSE FOR THAT SALT GRASS?
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>>152662697
>ultra deadly algae blooms that can potentially kill a city
>super grass that can turn any costal area into a salt marsh
Botanists must be pretty fucking hardcore on this world
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>>152662980
wait, what's the algae?
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>>152662980
imagine how fucky things get in the more extreme biomes
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>>152663132
The drug that the trade house helps distribute
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/18904041/
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>>152662697
... Why hasn't it completely taken over the beaches? There's something fucky going on.
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>>152662980
>ultra deadly algae blooms that can potentially kill a city
fun fact: during an ocean anoxic event on regular old real-life Earth, entire coastal regions can get fumigated with hydrogen sulfide.
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>>152663448
Probably for the same reasons wisteria hasn't completely consumed the the American south. It's only going to really become established in areas where enough seeds are regularly dropped.
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>>152663448
Most likely some animals or other plants have evolved to counter it with the most likely ones being from the same environment as the salt grass. It's like how cane toads are fucking Australia, but they're walking burgers in their native country.
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>>152662697
Dirty, dirty creatures...
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>>152663673
Just another reason why you should NOT fuck scavs
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>>152662697
So not only are yinglets despised as vermin for their behavior, but by virtue of walking through fucker grass like this they literally destroy the land wherever they go.
If there are gods in this world they must really, really fucking hate scavs.
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>>152664321
the seeds can only grow where they can reach salt water, they're not a problem past line of sight of the shoreline probably, unless you're an idiot human pouring salt water on your lawn because the toxic grass likes it
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>>152636825
Sometimes women have moles close their chest area. also an vestigial aspect of the extra nipples we once had. if you see a mole in a female breasts is an extra nipple.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/25167-third-nipple
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Goodnight
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>>152663303
I was thinking of this as well.
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>>152663448
Plants need more than just water, even salted one, to grow. I'd say, Yinglet's acttivities, intentionally or not, bring out other nutrients that are needed for the growth of the plant.
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>>152662697
Welp, this page pretty much confirmed for me that the ancestors of the planet went through an extinction event and engineered both the yinglet race and flora that would support the yinglet race in a barren environment.
Everything from yinglet instincts to flora seeds ensuring they can prosper wherever they go was most likely engineered by design.
And 'zat zhing' was probably a way for those who wanted to survive to transform themselves into yinglets.

My headcanon tells me that not every ancestor agreed and engineered their own "solution" to the extinction event, ranging from lifeforms that dig into the earth to hide, to those that would be strong enough to take whatever they wanted from others.
The remaining humans probably created stasis pods or the extinction event wasn't as severe as they thought and survived that way.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
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>>152663448
I think this page >>152663621 provides the answer, it can't pump water up slopes and probably not very far from the coast.
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>>152666515
I disagree. I believe baxxids, indrel, the bug oxen and most forms of life are native, and human settled the planet to conduct genetics research (but like, in a controlled environment. they didn't go around changing things willy-nilly) which include the yinglets. something happened in space that cut off contact and humans had to adapt and spread around, forgetting their roots. the lab with the yinglet genes malfunctioned at some point and spawned them in.
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>>152666729
Pretty sure Indrels have some human genetic in them and at least didn't exist as they were before the humans came.
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>>152666795
explain your reasoning.
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>>152666825
Too humanoid looking.
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>kass' tf torture is replaced by another fetish
What is Kass' mental state now?
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>>152666905
>replaced
I don't think you understand what this word actually means.
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>>152666515
We'll have to wait a few more years to get any answers.
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>>152637580
damn! some really interesting lore I actually love this story (even tho tempest looks like sonichu lol)

also... GOD I WISH THAT WERE MEEEEE I WANNA BE A CUTE THUNDER GOD GIRL ITS NOT FAIR NOOOOOOO
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>>152642004
The real problem Kass has is that his "normal" is living as the middle son of a minor merchant family while helping to raise his younger siblings and work at the family business. If he'd been transformed in Dinlan, he might have had a normal life to try to adapt to. As it is, Being transformed into a Scav bitch is just one more fucked up thing he has to deal with. Ironically, his education and experience working in the family tradehouse might actually partly qualify him for the Diplomat role he's been thrown into, though.
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>>152668326
By what little indication we have, Kass would probably still have an adjustment period if it happened in Dinlan, it just becomes awkward in a different way.
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>>152667331
stupid sexy baxxids
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>>152666729
Don't forget about the Yinglet baseline, the non sentient Lesser Yinglet. There's a good chance the Greater Yinglets were uplifted from the Lesser Yinglet.
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>>152668735
There's no scenario in which being turned against your will into a Scav is not going to be awkward.
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>>152668844
>House Ivenmoth is eager to repeat the test under different circumstances and offers a hefty reward for any healthy samples of Lesser Yinglets brought to their offices.
The things this sentence implies, my fucking sides
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>>152637580
>don't worry, ripoff Renamon/Pikachu hybrid thing
>you will surely perish eventually
"reassurances" of mortality like this always remind me of the time years ago when a writer or sokething for the infamous pony show tried to placate people worried about "alicorn" purple horse being immortal and watching her mortal friends all die with "she will not outlive her friends"
thus accidentally confirming that she dies first
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Have you made any yings?
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>>152668844
yeah exactly, greater yinglets were an experiment that only leaked 100 years ago and they killed the lesser yinglets
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>>152634162
>>152636853
The thing the anomaly did do was make it quite clear there's no going back, not by that tech. We saw what it did when organic mass wasn't equal to requirements and it wasn't pretty.
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>>152671187
Not necessarily. The same tech would almost certainly work to turn him back into a human it would likely just be much slower and require him to take in more mass, likely through eating a lot of food.
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>>152671296
>_>
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>>152671296
Kass becomes a rat king and starts absorbing other yinglets directly into his body
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>>152671296
Of the organisms without sufficient mass to turn into yinglets, it produced horrifying partial forms. It didn't wait around for them to eat food.
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>>152671363
We are very obviously not seeing the original context in which this tech was originally used in or the scope to which it was developed. Saying this technology can't make him human again at this point in the story is like assuming no computer on earth can calculate a number with more than 5 digits because that's all the broken dollar store calculator you found on the side of the road can do.
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>>152671363
>>152671502
since we don't know how it works or what it was originally intended for, there's any number of things it might do. hell, it might still be dormant in his system, waiting for some undisclosed trigger to start turning him back, because it was always designed to be temporary in the first place.

we just don't know enough to say either way, and the setting's tech level is not conducive to finding an answer quickly.
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>>152668735
It would solve the whole forced to live in hiding until a regime change thing though
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Kass will become lippies BFF. Screenshot this.
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>>152673953
Because the comic has its characters realistically fragile I constantly fear that something terrible will befal Lippie in some stake raising twist. I hope not, I wouldn't be able to take it
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Is it just me or is Vizlet slightly digging her some Elim? Have there every been FEMALE yinglets having sex with human guys, or has it just been a bunch of dudes? The females stay at the enclaves like 99% of the time, right?
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>>152675018
There is a very good chance vizlet and the trade master are secretly in love
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>>152670320
I would sooner kill myself.
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>>152668326
He ha more political and effective power than he ever had before... at the cost of becoming a female version of the setting’s sapient version of a raccoon i.e. something even small children can maul if motivated.
Imagine waking up as a 5ft tall human woman, but everyone else is a 12ft tall ogre, an 18ft tall (nice) dinosaur girl, or a (very polite) 25ft tall boneworm monster.
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>>152674884
If Kass bonds with any Yinglet during his time at the enclave it will probably be her. She's going to bring back all of his "I need to protect this thing" habits
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>>152671187
>>152671363
The excess of spillage didn't just turn organic materials under Kass into "yinglish" things, though.

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>>152676342
Heck, it actually resulted in digging a hole so profound that it can't no just be explained by the turning-into-yinglet transformation process. It made mass go away.
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>>152676342
Suspended as a meat-bubble in Z-space until Kass morphs back.
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>>152676104
Huh, that would make a lot of sense. Lippie is definitely out of place in the enclave, she seems to be the closest thing to an autistic Yinglet we've seen so far.
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>>152671502
Well, that tech is the tech we saw. If there exists other, better tech that we've not seen, then yes that other hypothetical tech might turn him back. Though I do kind of doubt it for narrative reasons.
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>>152676351
IIRC Val has said the mass issue was an error on his part, so we probably shouldn't examine it too closely.
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>>152676616
I think it’s pretty clear she is autistic, considering all the signs. Child of two pretty old yinglets, extremely fretful and twitchy, extremely good at memorizing signs and stitch work , socially awkward and stutters, and I’m pretty sure all those instances we’ve seen of her wandering around moaning and holding her shaking hands out are a sign of essential tremors or hand flapping.
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>>152676899
I wasn't aware there was a correlation between autism and essential tremor. Aren't you thinking of stimming?
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>>152640707
The baxxid stuff gets my almonds activated wondering about the 'fearsome and deadly power' of the (intelligent and reserved)
baxxid.

Obviously they vastly outclass Humani physically. And that sort of thing is INTERESTING to all involved, in my head, at least.

Humans would be interested in martial exchanges even in times of peace, I think, and the idea of discussing the concept of combat training with Baxxid (who can ****ing SPIT ACID, aside from the superior mass, ability and duel disembowling claws.

The Baxxid seem to outclass humans in SO many ways, (aside from tool use) I'm sure the inferiority complex of at least some humans would make for interesting cultural exchanges when the higher goal is mutual improvement of capabilities and strategies.
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>>152677225
>The baxxid stuff gets my almonds activated
me too but for opposite reasons. the page where kalkgur gushes about human ability to shape things and the creative process involved that is completely alien to him puts a lot into perspective. the giant war machine and living calculator is fascinated and confused by art, that is a cool concept.
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>>152677225
>who can ****ing SPIT ACID
I've always thought of it more like "Can drool calcium de-bonding enzymes" more than actually spitting a melt-all acid.
But giving baxxid the Betcher's Gland would be rad.

And the Ivenmoth humans have "fought" together with the baxxid in the past, so some sort of joint warfare training must be/have been conducted.
And the whole red-flag baxxid city guard staff work together with human guards for many years. Surely there must be official training, and possibly even the rare instance of friendly mock-sparring and, at the very least, joking comparisons of combat prowess and technique.

In addition, the baxxid still remember, and perhaps still smart a little, from the humans defeating them through tactics, equipment, stamina and probably just good old experience of never-ending large-scale warfare. So I'm sure there is some form of inferiority complexes and waryness going the other way as well.
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>>152677225
No hands.

Logistics? Fortification? Weapon technology? No hands. And they're conscientious objectors, so why involve them when we can do it so much better?
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>>152676104
>She's going to bring back all of his "I need to protect zhis zhing"
Fixed zhat for you
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>>152676342
>We still have no idea what happened to all of the Human-minus-Yinglet mass difference
Could have just been converted into CO2 and water vapor
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>>152638939
He has very admirably kept his fetish shit mostly separate. Mostly. I can ask no more of a man
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>>152677418
Not using real world chemistry or physics. It's magic space stuff, don't worry about it.
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>>152677386
>>152677303

The point (in my head)
is that they COULD kill humans in LOTS and LOTS of ways.

They have superior mass. They can sever human limbs BY ACCIDENT.

They have improved peripheral.
They have armour, size, mass.

They have (mostly) foresworn violence, but that doesn't mean humans aren't incredibly interested in it
(and by extension want to know just HOW outclassed by Baxxid they are, and if theres anything at all that can be done to compensate for it).

I think these games (because they would have to be 'play fights') would need the Baxxid made less lethal just to start off with.

The humans have crafting skills to trade to the Baxxid, but first order would be building 'human carapaces' to reduce the lethality of even 'safe' games with humans.

Humans trying to devise ANY techniques to overcome all the ways Baxxid can outclass them is of great interest to me.

I'm sure I could be convinced to trade 6 hours of my time crafting for two hours of 'simulated combat games' against Baxxid.
Perhaps thats just cause of how I'm wired, but I'm looking for SOMETHING that can be done against their many trumps.

I think its two armored and augmented (armed?) humans for every Baxxid,
who has already agreed to peace pad their claws, not spit acid in their eyes,
not burrow under them and Emerge like a deathworm from 'Tremors' and drag us into pits, and the fact that they need so many handicaps just to play with two of us would be embarrassing to the Baxx.

I suspect there would be standing orders to not remind the humans just how horribly outclassed they are by active Baxxid.
Only their (vulnerable) 'Hibernating Ancestors' present any kind of weakness to exploit.

I can even imagine the Baxxid trying to help the humans devise at least SOME strategems to overcome their relative weaknesses
(even as they find these 'pillowfights' with all their real capabilities muted tiresome).
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>>152676303
>NO ARTIST CREDIT
kek
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>>152677628
Weren't they warring previously, resulting in the Baxxid getting their shit wrecked? Being a walking tank with spears on your arms doesn't mean jack shit when a line of ballistas and bowmen would stop you from getting anywhere near close enough to use them.
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>>152677194
Pretty sure I read somewhere that essential tremors can be found in a number of people with neurological condition, and that such tremors can often be mistaken for stimming due to how similar they appear.
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>>152677838
Dammit, I thought I fixed that. It's lordmagicpants.
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>>152677628
I mean, baxxid ARE vastly superior.
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>>152677880
The Baxxid DID call for a truce/ceasefire and offered terms, rather than risk exposing their key hive.
They're a bigger species,
so i figure the humani have them in a societal sense, in the same way that the scavs can outperform the humans
(and its a similar numbers game.
Human vs Skav, Baxxid vs Human, the comparisons are fair.

The humans have tool use and mechanism and design which impresses the Baxxid, but lets not kid ourselves.
Every single one of them IS a walking tank.
Ballistas aren't as scary when they can be burrowed under.
Bowmen have less power when they can be... burrowed under.
Perhaps I'm overestimating the power of Baxxid burrow powers, to be fair, but its another 'trump' card like having acidic spit, multiple eyes, built in deathspears etc.

The humans have EMPIRE (according to the west coast of that map) which indicates they have a scale that the Baxxid cannot match.
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>>152678023
Burrowing is slow and you are trapped in a vulnerable position when you surface.
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>>152667331
Need wormwife to create lovely baxabominations
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>>152642562
The notion there any topic that a story cannot be made about is fundamentally wrong and veering towards stupidity.
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>>152678110
Why surface? You can literally make holes to pull things under into.

Think Trapdoor spiders with the ability to plan a collapse pit.

The humans have them beat on missile weapons tho, thats an interesting point.

What can the humans do about burrowers other than (predictably) move to certain terrains?
When your opponent knows your next move already you're at a big disadvantage.
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>>152678156
Let me know when someone makes a compelling toaster fucker story.
>>152642522
Kass parts are the worst part of the story.
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>>152677628
>>152678023
Again, you're underestimating hands. Hands are the joker here to baxxid trumps. It's like fielding an army entirely of tanks. Not just your infantry, but your entire supply train and support network and civilian infrastructure as well - just tanks. Nothing else. You'd be proper fucked.

I'll admit the baxxid seem less reliant on food since they have this mysterious disperse-gorge-coalesce cycle so they probably don't have to rely on supply trains specifically as much as we do. People with hands are still going to wreck them. Over the long-term I don't think it's even a contest.
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>>152678210
>What can the humans do about burrowers other than (predictably) move to certain terrains?
One of these, I guess. Plus eternal vigilance.
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>>152678221
>toaster fucker story
the toaster fucker community would support that webcomic it's not the strangest idea out there
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>>152677896
Huh I didn't know the two could be related, I have both. Weird.
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>>152678221
I like the Kass parts best. But then, my fetish is misery.
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>>152678335
>>152677896
The medicos say "maybe". Basically, insufficient studies. There's a correlation between autism and Parkinson's, which - point of order - is not essential tremor.
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>>152678221
Such a small mind.
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>>152678414
Yeah I know but I usually compare it to Parkinson's because more people are familiar with it. I inherited both the tism and the tremor from my mom.
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>>152637481
>magical setting
>push another to do a magical thing under pretence of temporary safety
>no description or consideration of very common alternative object that is effectivly indistinguishable and life altering
Fucking fetish garbage.

Reminds me of the "I'm immortal so I participate in snuff fetishes, but actualy die this time". Reeks of insecurity in ones kinks and a grasping attempt to make thier unethical desires ethical.
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>>152678138
Post the grown up baxxidman.
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>>152678635
Sucks but happy that you exist and your mom got laid
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>>152678686
>>no description or consideration of very common alternative
from the DA's description:
>In these guy's defense, god spirits are exceedingly rare. There's only a few thousand on the planet, so running into one is like having an encounter with bigfoot.
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>>152678686
I'm not sure what you're on about but I don't think most people care if their kinks are ethical when presented in fiction. Like, rape, daddy daughter shit... it's at least half the point, isn't it?
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>anons act like oops is as bad as every furry fetish webcomic
weird larp but go on
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>>152678735
Thats a fucking cope, and a demonstrationyou are lying, illiterate or stupid.

Rabies is rarer than that, so you think I sould ever tell a child to fucking pet all wildlife? Would a fucking court accept that?
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>>152678739
Some people clearly do. Then why else make these exceedingly retarded scenarios that want to escape these judgements?
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>>152678917
They're horny. You're overthinking it. The scenario is whatever makes them horniest.
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>>152678903
>Thats a fucking cope
Not really. That's just as valid as any explanation in a fictional setting.

>Rabies is rarer than that
Have you seen the amount of people who will just try and pet cats they randomly encounter just because they seem cute and friendly? You are not making a point with that.
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>>152678941
The simulated risk is the exciting part for them
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>>152678972
Those are adults dealing with socialized cats they have previous experice with, not parents telling children to touch a specific entity that will fucking transform them.

Petting a stray you know, in a staged video is not equivalent to an adult effectivly throwing a kid to a rabid bear.
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>>152678735
He didn't even say "don't touch them if they have a face".
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>>152679018
>not parents telling children to touch a specific entity
Both of those characters in that comic are adults. She is a Uni student. How did you not get that?
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>>152679070
Because he had never encountered a God before and didn't thought it would ever occur.
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>>152679089
He has the authority and knowledge over her. If you can use bad analogies, I can use good ones.
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>>152679102
I've never encountered rabies. I still don't pet wildlife.
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>>152679133
>He has the authority and knowledge over her.
That still doesn't undermind what I said there >>152678972
>Have you seen the amount of people who will just try and pet cats they randomly encounter just because they seem cute and friendly
You are not making a point.

>>152679152
But many people will pet cat they don't know that they encounter. And cat can transmit rabies too.
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>>152679018
Not gonna contradict or even touch your other stuff but the rabid animal thing is a reach and you know it. Intellectual honesty.
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>>152679102
Ok so parents don't tell thier kids about poison ivy/oak/sumack when taking a walk in the woods, because it's so rare?
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>>152679133
>I can use good ones.
You didn't use a good analogy.
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>>152679181
It's not that rare actually. And what you say there, doesn't really contradict the explanation.
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>>152679179
Rabies is rare, and dangerous
The god cloud is "rare", and dangerous
It's a direct analogy
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>>152679201
And despite Cats being able to transmit rabies, many people will pet random cats they encounter in the street with zero consideration of catching rabies.
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>>152679199
>Only 1000 in the world
>Only 1 of every 100000 plants in a woods
You don't understand
Even if rabies or poison ivy is bad, being transformed is worse. The analogy doesn't have to be one to one, it holds in the worse case.

He doesn't even simply say "don't touch it", he wastes time with trivia.
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>>152679233
No one tells them it is safe you hypocrite. They take that risk on themselves.

If I tell you that cat is safe, when it has rabies, I am held responsible.

Why are you opposing this?
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>>152679240
>>Only 1000 in the world
>>Only 1 of every 100000 plants in a woods
Do you realise that this is still way WAY more than just only 1000 plant of ivy in the world, right?

Come back to me when you are better at understanding proportions.
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>>152679201
OK, I guess I'm down in the mud now, so: I don't pet wildlife, they don't like it. I've held down a muntjac - vermin species - while it tore absolute shit out of my hand with its back hoof so that I could cut it free from a wire fence in which it would thirst to death. It didn't occur to me to worry about rabies at the time. It's not a thing one thinks about. Obviously I disinfected the wounds but for rabies that's not enough.
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>>152679256
>No one tells them it is safe you hypocrite.
No one has said her gods are safe.

You don't know what "hypocrite" means.

>I am held responsible.
He WAS held responsible and fully admitted fault.
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You guys should stop responding to the bait
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>>152678156
the question was about reader acceptance of the story, anon.

you aren't going to get the general reader on board with your scat fetish story unless you've made the fetish nearly unrecognizable, and even then they're probably going to consider it weird and off-putting.

audience preferences exist - you're free to make any story about anything, but you're not free to expect everything to receive a positive response.
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>>152637481
>>152678686
i'm not into tf but i think the premise is somewhat interesting, and i like the art/character design, as cringe as it might be.
i wish the author did more of it (i checked)
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>>152678691
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>>152679746
Where is a hole in a window separating the vacuum of space from the inside of pressurised ship when you need one?
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>>152679746
if he used a head cover it wouldnt be so bad
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>>152679270
Gods/world 1000/1
Ivy/wood 1000/1

It's even correct volume wise.
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>>152679290
He literaly tells her its safe.
His misidentification is on him.
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>>152680423
The wood isn't the whole world. Its incorrect on a fundamental level.

>>152680432
>He literaly tells her its safe.
He was talking about spirits. He doesn't tell her Gods are safe.

>His misidentification is on him.
Never argued otherwise.
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>>152680554
I'm not saying the wood is the whole world.

The woods is the boundary of the ivy scenario. The whole world is also just a boundary of the god-spirit story. Rareness is described with a boundary, anon. Thats not even a critique. What are you doing?
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>>152680554
The misidentification is still
on him is the point you absolute retard, thats the entire point of not acknowledging any danger being unhinged. What are you the author or something?
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>>152680588
>The woods is the boundary of the ivy scenario. The whole world is also just a boundary of the god-spirit story.
This fail to properly represent the chance of encountering a god, this is why this attempt to represent that encounter that way is fundamentally incorrect.

>What are you doing?
Calling you out for arbitrary deciding what are the boundaries of this encounter to misrepresent the chance of such encounter.
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>>152680608
>on him is the point you absolute retard
That was a point no one was arguing about.

>thats the entire point of not acknowledging any danger being unhinged.
Once again, the failing to indemnify the danger is due to the rarity of such occurrence. It's like recognising too late that the ingredient you have been cooking with are spoiled because there was a rare occurrence of the chain of distribution failing.
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>>152680629
>represent the chance
Anon do you actually understand probability? Because "1000gods/surface of the earth = all poison ivy plants / 1 woods" is entirely possible.

Heck you know of objects that are singular in all of existance. And thier probability of other people knowing about them isn't 0.
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Don't really understand what that comic is about, but if there a thousand dangerous "god clouds" in the world that's low enough that a regular person should never have to worry about them but high enough that it's professional incompetence to just jump at any cloud you see. Completely intolerable workplace risk.
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>>152680662
He can fail to identify it. The problem is he doesn't even fucking suggest it before telling her its safe. This is both an ethical problem AND a narative one.
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>>152680690
>He can fail to identify it.
He did identify it. The thing you seem to systematically ignore is that he has likely NEVER encountered a god before and probably didn't expect to eve encounter one in his life. At best he only knew their characteristic solely by relying on textbook on a theoretical level.

Why do you make such a point to ignore that?
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>>152680688
This

Why is the other anon arguing against me? This is exactly what I'm saying.

Even if you're not a professional you don't fucking positively promote a extreme change (with respect to the nature-spirits) on a whim.
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>>152680707
>he has likely NEVER encountered a god before
He literaly knows about them, and still acts like a retard for narative purposes.

Anon you're making up headcannon directly counter to the story as told.
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>>152680688
>but high enough that it's professional incompetence to just jump at any cloud you see.
But it's not high enough. That has been the point the whole time.

>>152680710
>Even if you're not a professional you don't fucking positively promote a extreme change
But it was never extreme change he was promoting in the first place.

It's like I am the only one who has actually read this single page.
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>>152680662
>indemnify
You mean "identify"
I'd call you a bot but they don't make this kind of mistake. More likely ESL.
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>>152680734
>But it was never extreme change he was promoting in the first place.
>jumping 30 to 60 feet in the air, and getting animal features isn't a massive change
Kys troll
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>>152680725
>He literaly knows about them
Quite probably ONLYY on a theoretical level.
While having a lived experience of many professionals using spirits to change themselves. That much is know. It's likely it's something his own teachers told him he could do while being a student himself.

>>152680749
>>jumping 30 to 60 feet in the air, and getting animal features isn't a massive change
I guess it's a matter of subjective perception, but I'd say that compared Tempest's change that IS an actual massive change, having temporary added feature to a an otherwise still normal body is comparatively not.
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>>152680795
You are actually autistic.
Your headcannon does not excuse his misconduct.

Even promoting the temporary possesion is unethical, and he would be open to pretty severe civil claims, even if everything went well. People can choose to alter themselves without issue. People cannot promote altering others when there is even temporary change among other things, let alone permanent risk. Your personal headcannon of it's rarity is not relevant.
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>>152680795
>having temporary added feature to a an otherwise still normal body is comparatively not.
How can you say this and not hear yourself. You compare them to thier base circumstance, not some other worse case. That's retarded.

This temporary change is bad. Permanent is worse. Temporary does not become good if the worse happens.

You just want this for yourself and are autistic so cannot accept that others don't, and go to further and further irrelevant places trying to socialy rationalize it. That's the essence of the mental dissonance in people surrounding fetish content.
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>>152680869
>You are actually autistic.
I am not the one getting so upset at a silly fictional comic that I feel the need to demonstrably establish how awful a character is.

>Even promoting the temporary possession is unethical
See you need to make up rule that were never established in that story just so you can push for your stance and your ire.

What we actually have there is the equivalent of someone suggesting paragliding, only to have the unfortunate follow up of their employee getting one of the few case of faulty equipment.
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>>152680925
>How can you say this and not hear yourself.
>This temporary change is bad.
According to who? You are trying to apply real-life standards to a fictional world where such activities seem established as quite casual.
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>>152680964
>make up rule
ESL and autistic.
Anon ethics and law has existed for millennia, and most of its backend is about generalizations. This scenario isn't unique when generalized. He would be completely liable for all the expenses incurred by this.

If a vet directly told you a specific stray cat was safe to pet, and it gave you rabies, they would be fined into oblivion, liable for all your medical costs and barred from being a vet.
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>>152680983
>ethics don't apply to fiction or affect character action
Unironicaly an autistic fetish-driven argument.
You don't need social approval to masturbate anon.
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>>152680964
>What we actually have there is the equivalent of someone suggesting paragliding, only to have the unfortunate follow up of their employee getting one of the few case of faulty equipment.
They would be held liable you actual retard.
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>>152681036
>>152681019
>Anon ethics and law has existed for millennia
And you are the one calling autistic.
This is a fictional world.

Someone form the very far past might call up unethical to have people move as such speed in cars when it cause so many death every years.

This comic establish getting spirits in you as something pretty mundane many people practice, you do'nt get to throw that out the window so that you can think you can continue being justified in your anger.

You are talking about what was meant to be temporary changes, there. Frankly, your level of reaction is just ridiculous.
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>>152681042
>They would be held liable
He is being held liable, there, anon.
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>>152681042
>They would be held liable
Actually, in such situation, it would be the paraglider manufacturer who made the faulty one who would be held liable.
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>>152681064
>This comic establish getting possesed by spirits as possible because one guy did it previously, but a newb knows nothing about
Ok
>god-spirits are rare, but a professional does knows about them, and doesn't warn
Ok
>he's not responsible
Kys
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>>152681081
His employee, while working?
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>>152681105
>because one guy did it previously
Not a guy. It seems clear it's common practice by many people.

>but a professional does knows about them, and doesn't warn
Are as frequent as encountering a Big-foot and only seems to know about them on a theoretical level.
>he's not responsible
I have never said that.
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>>152681122
>seems clear
I was being explicit.
You are being vauge and interpreting in favor of your conclusion
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>>152681113
If a worker get hurt because of faulty equipment, his employer's insurance will cover the worker, but the one at fault is the one business that made the faulty equipment and is likely who the worker and the employer will turn agaisnt.
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>>152681122
>Big-foot
>1000 on earth
So they are more common than many species
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>>152681151
>I was being explicit.
You are drawing conclusion without solid basis as if they were facts.
Meanwhile I actually base what I say on what is actually known.
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>>152681156
Ok. The analogy breaks because thread no equipment. She's just going of his word
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>>152681181
I described the panel
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>>152681183
>thread
There is*
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At this point I can only assume this is one guy talking to himself im an attempt to derail the thread
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>>152681170
>>Big-foot
>>1000 on earth
>So they are more common than many species
There are about a 1000 western gorilla and they are considered to be a Critically endangered species.

Also, how many there are and chance of encounter aren't systematically linked.
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>>152681237
>Also, how many there are and chance of encounter aren't systematically linked.
Yes, that's my point
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>>152681200
>I described the panel
You omitted to describe how mundane he present the experience.
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>>152681156
what if it's a fetish universe where laws don't exist and industrial accidents are the creator's fetish
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>>152681272
It isn't actually. You seem to use that number as some sort of point to establish how frequent the encounter should be, whereas it could actually be way lower than even what you expect from a group with a 1000 members.
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>>152681273
His description doesn't make it mundane
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>>152681297
I don't even bring up the number, that's the other guy.

The fact its a researcher interacting with these things increases its odds of occurrence from mere selection bias.

It's rarity is irrelevant, I've been trying to show the appologist
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>>152681156
I thought people had to pack thier own, or an instructor had to.
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It's an industrial accident essentially. And it's retarded to touch the god-cloud. I, a retard, would of course touch the god-cloud. Or, wait, was she always female or did the thing fuck with her plumbing?
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>>152681351
It very much does. He present it as something that is done frequently enough that he is surprised Tempest never got possessed before, casually mention he did it while on a work-field and apparently posting it on social media without any indication that he negatively impacted his job or his position and talk about COMMON side effect of possession.

This is not how you talk about something that isn't mundane.
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>>152681281
>industrial accidents are the creator's fetish
Plz no
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>>152681433
She was always female. And they didn't knew it was a god-cloud.
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>>152681444
So a murderer talking about thier latest victim makes it mundane? No

He described it as safe, not mundane.
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Post yinglets
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>>152681465
You are actually autistic
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>>152681465
OK, but, I don't know what a lot of shit is and I take that as a good indicator of when not to touch it.
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>>152681472
>So a murderer
Not a valid comparison. He had no intend to arm her in any ways.

>He described it as safe
He describe SPIRIT-possession as safe. and he describe it in a way that appear to indicate it is done frequently enough.
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>>152680688
>>152680710
>dangerous
not to fan the flames of this shitheap, but frankly i'm not too sure of the supposed danger here.
it's basically wandering free temporary powerups/permanent superpowers

there's quite literally not a single downside to this, as presented in the comic.
if i was there i would look for any chance to get possessed
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>>152681485
I do'nt think you actually understand what this word means.
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>>152681477
Thread's plagued. Unironically go to /trash/ if you want on-topic discussion.
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>>152681183
>no equipment
Actualy he convinced her to take off the safety equipment. It's like going paragliding and forgetting the paraglider.
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>>152681568
In this case, the analogy fo "safety equipment" would be just be "leaving the ground".
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>>152681537
>supposed danger
The permanent ones. Also don't be coy, the temporary ones would still be a huge challenge in all practical life.
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>>152681583
If you convince someone to base jump or paraglide without a glider, you can't sue the ground
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>>152681537
>there's quite literally not a single downside to this, as presented in the comic
No sex, if we assume it looks as inhuman as it would in real life. Trouble when she drops her keys. No sex. Rains and emits lightning when emotional. No sex. Non-consensual transformation of your body into something you never wanted or anticipated. Also it'd be real hard getting sex.
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>>152681585
>The permanent ones.
Which are as likely to occur as encountering a Big Foot.

>the temporary ones would still be a huge challenge in all practical life.
Not if they don't last very long.

>>152681631
Not really the equivalent of what happened, there, though.

>>152681632
>No sex
If there is a home, there is a way. But more seriously, there is no reason to assume her plumbing is gone.
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>>152681632
I think anon was talking about the spirit-possession, not the God-Possession.
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>>152681663
What's with you and big feet?
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Man, I wish a god-spirit would posses me and grant me fun abilities and immortality.
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>>152681672
Those apply to the temporary too
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>>152681701
No?
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>>152681663
I don't assume her plumbing is gone, I just assume that nobody who would fuck a dog (or whatever she is) is someone you'd want to fuck. Furries get by on a sort of inverse uncanny valley effect where they emphasise human attributes in simplified drawings. You do NOT want to meet an actual dogfucker.
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>>152681585
>Also don't be coy
i'm not, i'm being completely earnest.
>a challenge
pic related

>>152681632
>no sex
says you. and even if true, wouldn't change anything from the current situation
>Trouble when she drops her keys
can be fixed with a dinosaur grab stick thing, and the upside is flight (hovering?) so it's worth it the way i see it
>Non-consensual transformation
people still fantasize about being vampires or werewolves, and those are actual man-eating monsters.
comparatively, this is minor shit.
i would only reconsider if there was the equivalent of the god-cloud that turned you into something objectively shit like a yinglet, or altered your mind.
but from the comic is not much actual possession, as in the spirit/god having a hold on your mind so it looks good on that front
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>>152681691
immortality?
Did you even read the fucking posted strips? She's not immortal.

This is why I accuse you retards of not even reading the source. You fill it with headcannon, It's all your own imagination.
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>>152681728
>vampires or werewolves
Which is also cringe
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>>152633987
She should get a perm. Yinglets with ringlets.
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>>152681728
key word fantasize
not up for surrendering bodily autonomy myself
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>>152681712
>I just assume that nobody who would fuck a dog (or whatever she is) is someone you'd want to fuck.
She isn't a dog. Nor does she really look like one. And you'll find quite a bunch of normies who were actually turned on by Krystal from Star Fox (so, actual 3D) or even the Ginger Snaps TV-movie, if you want live actors.
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>>152681742
Not that anon, but it seemed rather clear to me it was a joke-post.
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>>152681742
>UHHHH ACKSHUALLY UR NOT IMMORTAL BECAUSE A METEORITE COULD SLAM INTO THE EARTH AND KILL YOU
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>>152681785
Krystal is a simplified drawing. As for Ginger Snaps, I dunno, I'd be real leery of getting into bed with someone who wants that. At best they're a starfucker, just using you for your wolfish good looks.
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Why are you trying to derail the thread?
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>>152681810
They explicitly state shes just long lived not immortal

>>152681802
My bad
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I would post yinglets but all I have are from fuchs and this is a blue board.
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>>152681851
Or they could just not be bothered by the appearance and lover her for her personality.
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>>152681974
I love my dogs for their personality. I don't fuck 'em.
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>>152681765
yes, but it WOULD get you bitches either way

>>152681773
fair enough, more magic powers for me.
but consider that in this case it would be voluntary

>>152681712
>>152681785
she's wearing underwear >>152637564
the plumbing is there, the only problem seems to be no easy access to the backdoor because of the cloud
>nobody who would fuck a dog (or whatever she is) is someone you'd want to fuck.
don't make me say it
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>>152681886
Unless you thought that immortality somehow equals invincibility, it's pretty clear from the context that gods in the setting live forever (long-lived) while they can also be killed (mortal).
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>>152681997
You do not love your dog romantically.
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>>152682003
say it
say it coward
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>>152637580
>>152682013
Why are you lying?
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>>152682116
A girl is heavily upset about the prospect of living forever. What do you do?
>a. i tell her that immortality is actually a good thing and that she should be happy
>b. i console her by softening the blow and tell her that while gods do live for very long times, she is still as mortal as she ever was
>c. annoyed by her sobbing, i leave the room and do something else until she calms down
Can you guess the correct answer?
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>>152682044
the flesh is weak, shooting thunderbolts from your fingertips or turning into an 8ft tall furry jacked up murderball is cool

i wish i could fuck seras from hellsing. also hellsing is the raddest thing ever. this is not debatable.

i wish i could do any of that instead of shitposting on a cambogian basket weaving forum but i guess i gotta settle for fantasizing
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>>152682138
Literal headcannon
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>>152682203
>but i guess i gotta settle for fantasizing
Only a few decades until we can upload our consciousness into digital worlds, anon. Hold fast!
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>>152682035
If I somehow fell in love with a talking dog, I would dutifully sexually gratify them if necessary. Just that - an onerous marital duty. Consider how the other party feels in such a scenario, would they be happy? Remember that she isn't ugly - ugliness in the light of love is beauty. She's inhuman, bestial.
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>>152682269
>If I somehow fell in love with a talking dog
She is not a talking dog. She doesn't look like a dog either. This isn't a valid analogy.
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>>152682217
Looking at more like a few hundred, sorry guys. The current "AI" bubble isn't relevant, unfortunately. We'll get there.
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>>152682328
It's gonna be very funny seeing people like you having no idea how to deal with humanoid robots suddenly appearing everywhere in just a few years lol
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>>152682327
She's an inhuman creature with fur and generally bestial attributes other than a basically humanoid bipedal frame. Do you not understand that this stuff is unattractive in the real world? I'm not insulting furries here and I have no ethical problem with it, she's a consenting adult, but: do you genuinely not understand that this thing would be approximately as sexually attractive as a chimpanzee?
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>>152682366
It's going to be an awful lot less funny seeing the bubble burst. I mean this in the best way, you don't understand the technology you're talking about.
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>>152682411
>Do you not understand that this stuff is unattractive in the real world?
Do you not understand that a person can want to fuck someone else not because they find them attractive but because they are romantically attracted to their partner?
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>>152682425
>It's going to be an awful lot less funny seeing the bubble burst
I disagree, it will be very funny.
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>>152682435
Talk about fiction.
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>>152682445
Remember, they're not the ones getting fucked over by it
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>>152682411
>but: do you genuinely not understand that this thing would be approximately as sexually attractive as a chimpanzee?
Actually, it would be more like fucking a cast member from the Cats muscial while they are still in costume.

Or fucking a Nav'i.
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>>152682435
I do. Hell, I've done so. It's just not a healthy basis for a relationship. Statistically, you're heterosexual. What have you done, sexually, for a member of your own sex, because you just gosh-darned liked them so much?
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>>152682493
>a relationship based on romantic attraction instead of physical one is not healthy
The fuck?
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>>152682473
IIRC the Nav'i were focus-grouped into being fuckable.
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>>152682510
There's no "instead", that's a deflection. Answer the question: what have you done sexually for a person of a sex to which you aren't attracted, in the cause of romantic attraction?
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>>152682546
bold of you to assume I had ever sex.
And yes, there can be sex based on romantic attraction only. That's how ugly people make babies. And they can make many.
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>>152682473
Or Miss Kitty from Monkeybone (a movie more obscure than Cool world), or some of the women with SFX makeup from the Buffy/Angel show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx1dRSP41LE
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>>152682611
Well then this is getting sort of dumb, isn't it? What are your thoughts, as statistically speaking a heterosexual man, about having sex with another man? Or the equivalent? And even then, Jesus, it's a nonhuman animal - answer, is it going to be a chore to suck a dog's cock or not. As I've said, your love isn't going to want you to do it if you don't like it. You're a space cadet.
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>>152682730
Holy ChatGPT
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>i've decided to bail on this webcomic because its fans suck ass.
>>152643784 couldn't have been more correct, holy shit.
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>>152682730
>What are your thoughts, as statistically speaking a heterosexual man, about having sex with another man?
Sexual orientation has nothing to do with that, here. As a straight guy, there are even women I wouldn't find sexually attractive. That doesn't means I won't fuck a woman I find ugly if I develop romantic feeling for her.
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>>152682773
>quitting something because of its fandom
You couldn't be more wrong.
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>>152682750
Bonkers. Probably based on not following the conversation. But I am six whiskys deep so I'll fuck off for you.
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>>152682800
>I am six whiskys deep
Now that makes a whole lot of sense.
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>>152676351
I hate being confronted by the mystery flesh pit.
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>>152680869
You are autistic, pretty clearly, as well as and more than the other guy.
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>>152679256
If the other person can't tell that cat has rabies, he's an idiot and deserves to get attacked. Trust me: you can TELL when an animal has rabies. They are all kinds of wrecked, staggering around and growling while drooling all over the place, occasionally attacking thin air, and generally acting fucked up.
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>>152676351
If it is nanomachines, it was likely consumed in an attempt at self-replication that eventually stalled out.
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>>152682779
But why would you? Women don't like sex, and you don't want sex in this scenario, so why?
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>>152633987
Furry "fandom" goes on >>>/trash/
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>>152682445
they already keep making fools of themselves
"AI psychosis" is hitting normie awareness because it's always so fucking stupid lol
hilarious in a "how in the hell was THIS all it took for a chatbot to drive you insane" sort of way

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