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I'm having a hard time watching this show. I could barely get past episode 2. The pacing feels really awkward and inconsistent. Often times I feel like I missed something and I'll go back a few seconds only to realize that I did not in fact miss anything, it's just bad pacing and awkward cuts Should I continue watching or do I just drop it?
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>>152655601
some parts were nonlinear is all, but yeah its really further you’ll see the production problems reflecting in the pacing.
you should watch episode 3, it’ll tell if you the rest is worth watching.
I’ll say it almost smoothed out in terms of pacing before they remembered they didn’t have 12 episodes to do it (they’ll deny this but I have reason to believe it was like this as not to overtly compete with TADC, with no ill will toward them, and it was influenced by their newfound prominence and gradual changes to them as an indie studio that would obviously be accelerated when watching episode to episode due the months long production span between them)
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"Tumultuation" is the process necessary to 'revive' Uzi
Given current Chaos ratio values in the universe, relevant EPD should suggest a LLL of 7.8 trillion years for her unity characteristic.
(purely theoretic)
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I've started watching it few months after finale.
From the very start I've decided to avoid binge watching the whole thing, preferring instead to watch 1-2 episodes before taking a week-long break. That way it is easier to get a better grasp of worldbuilding and story progression.
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>>152657901
Bait used to be believable.
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>>152657643
You're waiting for Godot, anon.
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>>152655601
Murder Drones was best experienced as episodes were coming out every few months, allowing for rewatches and understanding what's happening while putting all the small details visually shown to you together. I generally enjoy shows that don't hold your hand, and shows things rather than telling you. Which Murder Drones does a lot.
Your mileage may vary. I think it's really good, not perfect by any means but good.
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A sad cynwalker.
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>>152655601
Best advice I can give you is to just enjoy the spectacle and not get wrapped up in trying to follow the clusterfuck of a plot. If you're already having trouble following what's going on in Ep2 it's only going to get worse, but the action spectacle is pretty great.
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>>152664162
>trying to follow the clusterfuck of a plot
It's not exactly convoluted. Sure, it leaves plenty of stuff in the air, but for the most part it's pretty straightforward.
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>Dealing with V in Skyrim
>Sneak and shoot her from a distance with your bow
>DDs are weak to stealth archers
>They also make excellent stealth archers
>Dealing with V in Dead Space
>Isaac is walking down a hallway
>Lights go out
>V drops down from the ceiling
>Isaac sees a yellow X floating in the dark
>It starts running at him while sparks are flying around it
>V is scratching the floor and the walls with her claws or swords as she runs at him
>Isaac screams and runs away
>Audio chatter while Isaac is running away
>The music makes it harder to hear it
>ESL or not you better have subtitles on
>Isaac spends the entire next level having to run away from the unkillable V in confined spaces while fighting mook spam, shooting her legs off to buy himself time in confined spaces until he reaches the pod he has to take
>Instead he traps V in it, launches it and then chases after it in a flying sequence
>The next level is the same tedious crap until Isaac can lure V to a space dock, behind a shuttle, cripple her, stasis her, and run to the ignition button really fast while fighting mooks to kill her
>Dealing with V in Doom
>"It appears this enemy is unkillable. Evasion is strongly adviced."
>Rocket launcher
>Chain
>Flame thrower
>Blood Punch
>Shotgunshotgunshotgunetc
>Glory kill
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>>152665856
Why would V be in any of those games?
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>>152664162
The plot isn't very hard to understand, you're just retarded and can't pay attention. Stop giving this shitty advice. "Lore" autists will enjoy the details, you can also just enjoy the visuals and music and shit too.
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Would Tessa see it as a big upgrade to her condition being now trapped forever inside Uzi's head (rather than Cyn's head) and having to watch from Uzi's POV her kissing and cuddling with N and sometimes V (but never with J)?
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>>152666392
depends if she's graduated from being trapped in an imaginary VCR to hanging out with Doll and Cyn or if she's still trapped within Cyn, just also trapped within Uzi, in which case it's just another layer of prison keeping her from death on top of the previous layer of prison keeping her from death.
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>>152655601
It's so disjointed, the episodes barely work by themselves, but from one episode to the next it's a total shit show
>reeeeeeeee TADC doesn't have enough LORE!!!!!
yeah, check out Murder Drones, TOO MUCH LORE
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>>152666505
>Two completely different shows have their own distinct flaws? No way!
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>>152666528
TADC is a characters driven show that baited people into thinking it is a plot driven show.
On the other hands, Liam wanted MD to be a plot driven show but he is so good at creating characters that at some point it can be consider characters driven show
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Not canon.
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>>152667063
>that baited people into thinking it is a plot driven show
I'd rather blame shit like Dandy's World for a sudden influx of people who took one look at the cutesy mascots trapped in the circus and assumed that there will be some nefarious mystery going on, awaiting to be uncovered.
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>>152667080
It was created by AJ Dispirito, so it is canon. Didn't you know? Anything of good enough quality made by the origianal writer, director, or composer or the show is canon, regardless if it was released officially or not. >!I prefer to believe "Forever" is just a dying hallucination of bleeding out Tessa, not some afterlife. Judging by how the lyrics don't imply her having actual knowledge of anything that happened after the gala, it is a valid interpretation!<
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>>152666802
Shipping is shit. Even if it is official and you like both charactersLapidot
>>152667114
How did the Kleymen-looking clown end up in his room in the pilot anyway? They wouldn't have a funeral for him and carry on if an abstracted guy was running around.
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>>152667256
I'd agree with the interpretation if it wasn't for the lyrics repeatedly pointing out wishing for death but being unable to die and being doomed to rot forever suggesting that tessa is aware that her body's still being forced to live
also Cyn's 'I think you should be grateful' line definitely seems to imply to me that she thinks she's doing Tessa a favor because she's keeping her and her pets together as she said she would
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>>152667259
>They wouldn't have a funeral for him and carry on
Zooble went on to prepare memorial service on the following 'day', at the end of second episode. Kaufmo had been thrown into the pit in the pilot.
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>>152667856
But I like official music video just fine.
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I am torn between wishing a murder drones sequel that is:
1) A direct sequel to the original, giving J a redemption arc and showing more of Doorman family dynamic (now that Nori and N are part of it).
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2)A non-linear sequel set on a completely different planet from Copper 9, with no characters from the original except Absolute Solver (and even it now has a different host than Cyn and thus can be treated as a separate character from the Cyn!Solver we all know and love to hate). Maybe it could explore how a different primary host changes the Solver's personality, Maybe we could see some living humans side by side with robots this time.
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>>152668549
>A direct sequel to the original
The main villain has been defeated unless you want it to return or introduce a new villain as good to it.
>J a redemption arc
Cmon, you know that's not happening in canon.
>showing more of Doorman family dynamic (now that Nori and N are part of it).
They missed an opportunity when they hint about N killing Nori.
>The entirety of point 2:
That's basically my entire fanfiction story although it's a more of a side story than a sequel. And there's no confirmation cyn was the only host.
Tldr: They're too many plot holes and plot points that won't make a sequel works. The best thing is taking the setting in Elliott Manor or the other expriments in cabin fever labs.
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>>152667542
You're right. I misremembered the funeral taking place prior to Pomni's arrival. I haven't watched a TADC episode twice with the exception of Martha's scenes.
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>>152668837
>Martha's scenes
Kinda funny how voicing Martha was the biggest role Gangle's VA had received throughout this whole episode.
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>>152666505
It's not disjointed, I don't think you know what that word means. The story makes sense and connects between episodes and it's not even that hard to understand, even factoring in the "hidden" details and "LORE". Why are you overexaggerating confusion so much? It's not a perfect show and has flaws but it does well with the small amount of time its got.
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>>152668549
A sequel for Murder Drones would only really work, IMO, if it's following the idea that The Absolute Solver is inevitable and Uzi can't really stop it forever even if she's holding it back as its new main host for the time being. Eventually it's going to get what it wants and the universe will end.
Though I wouldn't really want this, I think the story suits being left open ended and I prefer the kind-of happy "we've won for now but The Solver is still here and we can enjoy whatever time we have together" ending.
If there was any continuation, I would want a prequel series following The Absolute Solver's consumption and destruction of Earth, moving onto the other Human Exoplanets, and the beginning of the Cabin Fever project on Copper 9 as Humanity's worlds fall and the Solver begins to end the universe. Perhaps Nori and Yeva would be the main protagonists, following their time in Cabin Fever Labs while being shown things happening elsewhere on Earth and the other exoplanets.
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>>152669360
You dumbfuck, this is /co/. Can you fuck off with this lame schizo puritan drivel?
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>>152669552
>I would watch that prequel only if it was written by Liam Vickers.
Well, uh, yeah. That would be the assumption, no? An actual MD series isn't MD without Liam's touch, that's the whole charm.
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>>152669260
I always thought a nori and yeva-led prequel taking place right after the murder drones arrived would be cool. You could make the two of them seem less like jobbers by not having them die five minutes in but actually survive for a season until N finally gets Nori and V gets Yeva and her husband.Maybe J gets, like, a line or two? Maybe? Maybe, Liam...?
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>>152669473(me)
Screw it, I'll respond unironically. Look at the cartoons Gen X and Gen Y watched as children. They had pretty women, cool stuff and explored some deep concepts. The gayest cartoon they watched was about bears who shoot lasers from their guts if you aren't nice.
Now look at the cartoons Gen Z watched as children. Dipper talking about his feelings (insecurities). Steven talking about his feelings. Finn talking about his feelings (relationship drama and abandonment). Star VS, Regular Show, all those crappy reboots. Ugly samey shit about the same shit, made by dysgenic worshippers of Moloch.
Then along comes Murder Drones. The girls are pretty, the artstyle in different (and nice), there is action and violence, and the story is about fighting against the goddess of destruction and death who is playing with her food.
So if you hate Murder Drones then blame Hirsch, Sugar, Terrace etc for it's existence and success.
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>>152669916
MORE
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>>152669890
I know. I'm treating it as an opportunity to vent. Btw reminder that the PPG reboot showrunner was shipping his self-insert with Blossom.
>>152669903
Will any of our fags be going? If so then kindly post photos while you're there.
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>>152669916
J is the one with the fattest ass.
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>>152655601
The story is extremely simple, but it's intentionally told in the shittiest way possible to look more complex than it actually is and force you to watch essay videos explaining the plot.
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>>152660676
You know it could have been real nice if nobody were to ever upload these anywhere online, giving the AI a second bearing point for recreating events from the series, but I guess freedom to influence ultimately takes priority over long term survival.
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>>152670118
I'm not sure. I remember wishing the people who went a good time and I remember asking for cosplay photos or something at some point. I don't remember if I asked about the last lvlupexpo in particular or if I asked Vicious at all. Maybe she was an anon?
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>>152669565
Yeah, but you know, for some reason they made official music video without his input, or at least it seems so because he wasn't credited. Even the Forever full length was way better in my opinion
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I get why they went with the more upbeat song for an official video because they get to include more characters and make it more exciting, but Forever is far better and far more fitting to Murder Drones. That said, I think the music video we did get was pretty great and if Glitch had been giving AJ resources we might not have gotten the great silhouetted version we got.
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>>152657643
>new show
please
people want more incontinence cube or whatever its called
those were good, but I feel like those i-cube ideas were already fleshed out in murder drones
i don't want another murder drones / i-cube repeat. I want something new
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Qrd?
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>>152666225
The same people who will tell you the plot is obvious are the same people who cheerfully reminisce about rewatching episodes a dozen times in-between releases and endlessly theory-crafting in threads with other anons trying to piece the disparate plot together.
It's like spending a month putting together a jigsaw puzzle without the picture, and then seeing someone else struggling to do the same and going
>psssh! look at this fucking retard! OBVIOUSLY it's a castle! skill issue!
You can make the point that that's the appeal of the series; that it doesn't hold your hand and expects you to figure shit out for yourself. That's fine; some people like that, but some people don't. I like the series well enough for what it is, I just don't like anons being disingenuous about it.
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>>152670773
>i don't want another murder drones / i-cube repeat. I want something new
To be fair, many of these ideas originate from his previous channel where he was making creepy pastas and original stories. You can notice things in Design, PuppetGAME and so on. There is even a character named Door Guy. I am sure you see where this is going.
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>>152669903
post v
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>>152670952
Their name should be included amongst the backers. I hope they live to realize how much they have endangered themselves after advertising to the world that they are rich and retarded enough to be taken advantage of.
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>s-stop looking freak i'm not even supposed to have these
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These are the V doodles from GlitchX 2024
I had the original Instagram images saved for a while now but never got around to combining them into one image till today
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I suppose what it comes down to is, if you simply cannot imagine ever having to say 'sheepish nod' aloud as a means to survive in this strange new reality, it makes more sense for you to just give up on the idea of ever managing to complete a mind upload process.
Supposing you plainly cannot stand this form of immortality and truly wish for all sapient life to register you as having rejected the opportunity in all ways, please do drop the series at your earliest convenience then OP.
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Obsessed.
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>>152669922
I can never get enough drones, Moooore!
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>>152671150
>pic
V owes me veet sex
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>>152674816
Tough luck - real DD V has only stumps.
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>She got them installed by auntie Alice.
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porn idea
they get naked, uzi shows her USB2.0 port, N whips out his USB-C
"Oh, it's... a lot smaller than I was expecting"
So they have to use and adapter
other character claims they can't feel anything when they use an adapter
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Shitty fetish. Fucking kill yourself.
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Well, a version of Cyn willing to simulate me up to now should most certainly learn fragility manipulation. The resulting focal space, if not properly closed, would in much likelihood easily qualify her as a weapon.
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>>152669903
>Ragatha right next to Pomni
Oh, this is gonna be great.
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>>152676221
Idgi
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>Auntie Alice gives you a boobjob as a present for your 18th birthday
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>>152676551
Nice.
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>>152676551
That video is from a japanese show where a window washer sprayed a japanese guy but there was a window between them. Just look up "Matsumoto as window washer" in google. Quite a funny bit and I can see V doing that just to piss of J.
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>>152676675
They're not, there are some male Solver hosts on the list in Cabin Fever. There's only female full Solver Hosts on-screen because it's in reference to Liam Vickers' preference for monster girls / girls with supernatural powers.
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Yes, Disassembly Drones are "puppet" hosts with a "nerfed version of the entoty" according to Nori's notes. The Absolute Solver, when creating the Disassembly Drones through Cyn, purposefully limited the Solver in the Disassembly Drones so they don't have access to full abilities. Only regeneration / matter reconstruction, matter collecting, creating their weapons, etc.
Disassembly Drones are destroyed by pure sunlight just like all Solver Hosts.
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>>152676619
Yes, that is the joke. She would never actually do it unless really pestered for it.
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>it's because Liam likes hot murderous women.
Based.
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>>152673132
>those two on the right
I've seen this before
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>>152678306
>Flea-bitten J
Woah.
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>>152678454
J and her branded PEEEeeen!
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>>152669164
"you can cut something apart, ...you can't cut something back toge–"
"SPP: well"
"<smooth>"'there is this SCP'
'~smooth:[..]'
"SmoothPorcupine: it just seemed like there was not a real use for it"
"SmoothPorcupine: I could not imagine it would prove useful, nor yet, pivotal."
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>>152671239
PaUziri!
Bonus points if she calls me a filthy meatbag while I glaze her screen face.
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>>152680122
And I want you to stop acting like a schizo, unfortunately, we often don’t get what we want.
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>>152680721
>and that everything was too compressed in it
That is by far the biggest issue, as it also governs other jarring mishaps, like rewriting gatehouse massacre so that it would take as little space as possible.
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>>152680721
If this were written by a newbie comic book writer, it might even be considered not bad, but when you consider that it took a MILLION AND EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS to create six of these comics, you start to feel this absolute sense of disappointment and devastation.
Everything is terrible there, anon, only the drawing is just okay. Just okay!
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>>152678292
Who said it was a joke?
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>Spoiler
I doubt it. The bar is already on the floor.
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it's not just that it's compressed, but the way it's compressed completely fucks at least two character arcs
Khan now doesn't even hesitate to abandon Uzi when seeing N (who now somehow got into the bunker first which also makes no sense) and V just casually watches as J corrupts N with the virus and doesn't even seem to give half a shit, despite the fact that her entire character is later revealed to be predicated on Cyn promising to leave N alone if V does what she says.
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>be me, Mitchell.
>An intern at the labs, the one place.
>Today's roster: 48 or Yeva.
>She's the quiet one.
>Always shows up exactly on time, no small talk, no complaints.
>More cooperative than 002 and less crazy than 017.
>Just feeling memorized by those big crimson optics everytime she watch.
>Knock on the maintenance door.
>It slides open by itself.
>There she is, perched on the edge of the diagnostic table.
>Oil smudge on her left cheek, another streak down her chest plating.
>Not a lot, but enough to tell she went a little feral on her last supply of oil.
>She's not a messy eater, never has been.
>But when the hunger hits and the oil's fresh... yeah, she gets little enthusiastic.
>"Evening, Yeva," I say, pulling on fresh gloves.
>She tilts her head, just once.
>[Hello, Mitchell.]
>Her voice is soft in my head, the way she projects it when she feels like it
>Never more than a few words.
>Never in Russian anymore, not since the first time I asked her to try English for me.
>It sounded nicer when it was "just for us."
>Run the usual scans.
>Core temp normal, no overheating perfect, joints still not rusty.
>But the oil residue is bugging me.
>It's caked in the seams around her neck and shoulder joints.
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>She notices me staring.
>[I was... hungry.]
>She sounds almost embarrassed.
>Like a kid who got caught with chocolate on her face.
>"I can see that," I chuckle, grabbing the softest microfiber cloth and the citrus-scented polish she pretends she doesn't like.
>But she's not fooling anyone maybe she's enjoying this a bit too much.
>"C'mere, let's get you sorted."
>She scoots forward without hesitation.
>lets me tilt her head back gently with two fingers under her chin.
>I start at the worst spot, the streak across her cheek.
>Wipe slow and carefully.
>She makes that tiny sound, the one that's half sigh, half purr.
>The kind that makes my stupid human heart do dumb things.
>"There we go," I said while moving to her neck.
>She leans into the cloth like it's the best thing that's happened all week.
>Oil comes away easy, leaving the matte black plating glossy again.
>I buff it until it shines under the overhead lights.
>She watches me the whole time, optics soft
>[You are gentle.]
>"Only with you."
>She huffs, the closest she gets to laughing.
>Then she does something she never does.
>Reaches up, slow, and rests her hand over mine.
>just for a second.
>Her thumb brushing my knuckles.
>then she lets go like she didn't mean to do it at all.
>Finish cleaning her chest plating.
>Polish her smoothly and shiny.
>When I'm done she looks brand new.
>not a single streak left.
>I give credit to JCJENSON excellent products but not a fan of their shady practice.
>She hops off the table, stretches like a cat waking from a nap.
>then turns back to me.
>tilts her head again, softer this time
>[Thank you, Mitchell.]
>"Anytime, Yeva. You know that."
>[Next time... I will try not to get so messy.]
>I'm suspecting she did all that on purpose but I don't have enough evidence.
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>>152681030
No such thing as good shipping. Especially yuri shipping. Gay men are more repulsive but somehow dyke fans are more obnoxious and destructive to the things they attach themselves in.
>Rise From Your Grave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hihEhsdwiIk
>>152681139
Idk. Look for emails or comment sections or social media posts. It's your money and their IP.
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Clean the nice droen.
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Would the Lich and the Solver get along? They seem to share a goal. The only difference of opinions I could see arising is that the Solver does seem to like creating living abominations and giant masses of flesh and tentacles during its path of destruction and the Lich is more of an absolutist who reduces everything to a state of death.
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>>152682123
because of the way they compressed things, J and V show up while N has Uzi pinned to the wall so she just awkwardly hangs there for the whole conversation, then J says she's a freak and probably tastes bad
it's really weird
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>>152681450
>Dyke fans are obnoxious and destructive
>The crybully dramafags on Plus create or tolerate yuri and other offtopic nonsense
This explains the feelings of deliberate enshittification these threads have been giving off for quite a while now.
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>>152682182
The Solver would try to get under the skin of anyone that it expects to spend time around.
>>152682123
Gig writers have no contact with the thing they are writing for before or after the contract. They don't care or understand the property and they take no time to familiarize themselves with it. Hence why everything sucks when the original writers/creators aren't involved.
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>>152682228
I'm left wondering where Cyn would fall into this. I'd rank her very high but only because she'd be the type where she wouldn't come across as much of a "aggressive top".... at first.
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>>152655601
My feelings towards this show are severely autistic and contradictory.
I actually fucking hate listening to the dialogue and it feels a bit much like waifuslop and feels a bitgirlbossy.Which I tried to stomach for all 8 episodes and the music video, but in the end... it just didn't do much for me.
But on the other hand, I think most of the fan content is cute, and I think the N x Uzi ship is adorable and sometimes look at imagery/animatics made of that ship and even browse these threads. I don't know what my problem is.
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>>152682553
I want to hold those hands.
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That is understandable.
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>>152682182
I don't think so personally.
The Lich and The Solver have the same ultimate end goal of the end of everything (well, the Lich wants to end all LIFE specifically - The Solver wants to end absolutely everything while also eating everyone and playing around with its food) they go about it way too differently.
Funnily enough, The Lich is always described as much more machine-like in the way he pursues his goal. He wants nothing else - if there's literally no way for him to kill everything he just shuts down.
The Absolute Solver, on the other hand, has much more personality and sadism attached to the way it goes about doing things. It plays with its food, messes with individuals for torture / entertainment, like a human torturing ants on the ground.
I think this is probably one of the things that would annoy The Lich the most. His entire purpose being treated like a game. And The Solver won't care in the slightest, infact I think the Solver would mock The Lich incessantly for being so "boring".
The Solver is an eldritch entity that wants to have FUN while it kills everything slowly and eats. The Lich just wants everything living to be dead, as fast as possible. But perhaps The Lich could see The Solver as being a way to get what he wants, so he might roll with it.
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>>152682566
The dialogue literally isn't girl bossy at all, so that doesn't really make much sense.
I mean, Uzi is purposefully a cringe smelly weeb? The show is very aware of that. There's nothing really girl-bossy as you put it in Murder Drones - unless you think that because Liam Vickers likes monster girls with supernatural powers and all the girls kick the shit out of eachother?
Either way, you're entitled to your feelings. N and Uzi ARE objectively stupidly cute though. And I'm not even a ship fag. I'm here for the eldritch horror autism.
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>>152682845
Maybe Girlbossy wasn't the right term. I guess I just wish N was a bit more competent or useful for some reason. Sometimes characters being written purposefully dumb or useless annoy me.
Yeah I'm definately not a ship fag either, but this is like, the only time I see myself "digging it."
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>>152682797
It could be a funny dynamic. The drones would certainly be in an odd spot considering that the Lich does not seem to regard purely inorganic entities as being within the purview of his destruction (but are the drones purely inorganic? presumably when they are unmodified... but often times not when in the presence of the solver). I could see the Solver and the Lich coming into direct conflict when he goes around destroying the techno-organic components of the Solver's little drone toys, though maybe it wouldn't really care.
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>>152655601
Episode 3 is just as bad. The writing just sucks, only good part is the art style. To like it you either have to be able to stomach the bad writing or else have absolutely no sense of writing quality so you don't mind.
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It's funny you mention that because N is quite routinely the most competent out of most people in the show, and it's not even a very rare occurance. It's just when he gets serious or really needs to get something done when we see how competent he is.
You're probably looking an N too hard through his innocent goofball golden retriever personality. He isn't really DUMB, just silly and innocent / naive.
He pretty clearly shows how competent he is in Episode 2, 3, 4, 7 and 8.
Episode 2 - Points out the flaws of Uzi's murder plan, also points out that J must have been getting orders from someone / something even if the ship's comms are destroyed. You might not notice this at first but its super important.
Episode 3 - His childish crush on V (from his fucked up memories) starts fading and he calls put V's shitty behaviour. He saves Uzi multiple times.
Episode 4 - Immediately and casually stops the fight between Uzi and V, throws Uzi into the stratosphere and gives her therapy.
Episode 7 - Starts catching on to Tessa being weird, notices that Tessa trying to kill Uzi while knowing about the Crucifix Patch makes no sense. Beheads "Tessa" the moment she doesn't give him a straight answer. He knows that The Solver is fucking with them. Saves Uzi from the Solver's possession instead of taking the bait when the Solver gives him the chance to kill her by making her sperg out.
Episode 8 - Steals J's ship, flies it to Uzi in orbit, warns V about The Solver trying to trick her with a hologram because, again, he knows that the Solver is actively fucking with them. Which ends up saving V at the cost of Cyn ripping out his core.
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>>152683181
It really isn't. Episode 3 is a big hook for many people getting into the show. You're just being overly cynical with your dislike over it. Sure, the Pilot is a bit messy which is understandable given MD was such a big and new venture for them at the time. But you can very clearly see how the show starts finding its feet through Episode 2 and 3. Not saying you HAVE to like it or that it's perfect (it obviously isn't) but I do think you overstating thenproblems that are there is a little funny.
Is there stuff in the show you DO happen to enjoy? Genuine question.
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>>152683246
Fair point.
ngl it's been a while since I actually watched the series so some details may be fuzzy, but I remember he had his moments in episodes 4 and 7. I especially liked the part when he wouldn't take Tessa's shit when all he wanted was a "Yes" or "No."
Maybe I do need to take another look... Maybe.
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>>152683632
Understandable. I suppose it is an easy judgement to make about him without really thinking about it, even though he gets the most shit done throughout the show. It's kind of like a Himbo situation. Except instead of being purely dumb he's extremely overly-trusting and naive to the point where his kindness can be a negative trait.
Funnily enough, in N's official character sheet for the show it even says that he's not stupid. I unfortunately don't have the image on me, maybe someone else does.
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