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why did they stop making merchandise driven shows?
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>>152673495
People like Lauren Faust hate the idea of selling merchandise because it impacts their storytelling. They could be right but they took their refusal to the extreme. Plus the stories they wanted to tell were garbage.
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>>152673495
Mostly because it's easier to just make a video game at this point.
You go through all the effort of creating these 3d models, you might as well just make a gacha
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Most low effort engagement bait threads may as well be made by bots.
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>>152673495
Because merchandise doesn't have the same "push" as it used to.

Dunno which of these are more common than others, but:
>shows generally don't last long enough to justify making toys, and there's no guaranteed reruns to pull kids in like in pre-streaming days
>most adult fans would rather just buy "merch" custom off Etsy or Aliexpress than buy the overpriced official garbage
>kids in general don't really give a fuck about action figures anymore because they already do all the fantasy "play" stuff via vidya
>pushback from feminists make it a lot harder to sell dolls to girls
>attention spans going down the shitter means everyone will buy some new trend for like, a week, then drop them suddenly and move on
>shows in general are dying left and right because nobody watches TV anymore
>kids' shows in general flop hard because kids would rather watch Youtube or play Roblox
>toys in general suck
>most merchandise-driven shows are action cartoons, and action cartoons are a super hard sell these days for a bunch of reasons
>dolls and action figures have strict clothing and body rules
>half the main characters in the last two decades are wimpy faggits or butch women, which isn't super appealing to make toys of
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>>152673495
because saturday morning cartoons no longer drive merchandise
kids have phones+tablets to just watch youtube all day
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>>152673495
they didn't
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>>152673495
>kids don't play with toys as often, because video games and ipads
>manufacturing tons of plastic in China is not as cheap as it used to be
>No one is fucking watching tv anymore, let alone tolerating ads if they can help it
>kids that do want to buy toys and watch ads are going straight to youtube where there's an entirely category of toy-shilling channels.
>every cartoon pitch these days is a barely-masked therapy session for a 20-to-30-something year old rich kid, which doesn't lend itself well to selling action figures and playsets (no kid is watching Fionna and Cake and then wishing there was a fat failgirl barbie)
>The absolute mismanagement of the western animation industry has gutted and killed most big studios and left us with dozens of tiny mercenary freelancers who are fighting over the chance to do bit work on Paw Patrol and Baby shark
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>>152673912
Tell that to Image Dump Fag. The way he posts images in a minute apart kind of dump, the filenames, the headline of "what do you think about x", and the way jannies ignore the threads may very well be some low effort bot engagement threads too.
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>>152673561
Why did they stop doing THAT?? We should have gotten a Zootopia video game back in 2016, but nope.
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>>152675031
We should get kingdom hearts games every 2-3 years and it should have all these movies in it by now
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>>152673495
>why did they stop making merchandise driven shows?
They didn't? They're either on Netflix or five-minute shorts on YouTube.
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>>152673495
cable carriage fees paid astronomically more than over the air syndication
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>>152673495
FCC rules about kids shows with tie in merch got stricter in '91 and way way stricter in '96.
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>>152673495
The amazing digital circus is a merchandise driven show at this point. Nobody gives a fuck about the story.
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>>152673495
They didn't. You just stopped paying attention.
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Commercials on children's television are limited to 10.5 minutes per hour, and if you aired a commercial for a toy based on the show in the same block, the entire block would be considered a commercial. You can air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t3CBtGe6e8 on a CN show other than Ben 10 but you can't air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAaAgvJJQM in between an episode of He-Man, for example
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>>152673495
Children don't buy toys anymore.
>Inb4 angry millennials try to correct me
In app purchases and skins are "toys" for gen alpha.
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>>152673561
Video Games made it a lot less lucrative in the early 90s since by age 11-12 or so most kids would rather have a couple $50 NES/SNES/Genesis/PSX etc. games than the big cool expensive playset or big figure that only comes at birthdays and Christmas. Most of those toy shows depended on kids buying Castle Grayskull type $100 super dooper special playset to drive up all the numbers. When video game became more sophisticated, them more kids graduated out of toys and into games.

>>152674431
This
They still make merch driven shows, but they are aimed at kids below the video game age. Disney and Nick Jr make loads of merch drive toys they are just things like PJ Masks and Paw Patrol. Most preschool shows are heavily merch driven.
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>>152673552
>People like Lauren Faust hate the idea of selling merchandise because it impacts their storytelling. They could be right but they took their refusal to the extreme. Plus the stories they wanted to tell were garbage.
>>152674323
>shows in general are dying left and right because nobody watches TV anymore
>kids' shows in general flop hard because kids would rather watch Youtube or play Roblox
>most adult fans would rather just buy "merch" custom off Etsy or Aliexpress than buy the overpriced official garbage
>shows generally don't last long enough to justify making toys, and there's no guaranteed reruns to pull kids in like in pre-streaming days
>half the main characters in the last two decades are wimpy faggits or butch women, which isn't super appealing to make toys of
>>152674571
>every cartoon pitch these days is a barely-masked therapy session for a 20-to-30-something year old rich kid, which doesn't lend itself well to selling action figures and playsets (no kid is watching Fionna and Cake and then wishing there was a fat failgirl barbie)
>The absolute mismanagement of the western animation industry has gutted and killed most big studios and left us with dozens of tiny mercenary freelancers who are fighting over the chance to do bit work on Paw Patrol and Baby shark
Toy commercials were far from perfect, but showrunners who opposed them are likely in a worse spot now then they might have been during the 80's and 90's. As blunt as this sounds, it's hard to feel sorry for them given the crap that were made since the 2010's. A lot of those issues also seem self-inflicted and did more harm than good.

>>152675226
>The amazing digital circus is a merchandise driven show at this point. Nobody gives a fuck about the story.
Funny enough, had Faust went indie, she might have been able to get at least one of her show pitches made into a show by now.
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>>152675466
The fun part about some preschool shows being merch driven shows is that they would have Peggy Charren rolling in her grave. Sure, toy commercials are tougher to promote nowadays >>152675211 >>152675485, but I admire that some companies are still willing to make those shows even if it's just for preschoolers. Naysayers be damned.
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>>152676066
Spin Master is the devil.
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>>152676080
Tell that to this former CN exec who clearly sold her soul (if she ever had one) to land another executive gig. Glad I wasn't watching CN when she was in charge.
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Never understood the 90s hate boner for toys. Toys are cool. The mixture of good and trash episodes in those shows wasn't very different to ~pure no-merch deep lore~ shows
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>>152673552
Aren't her two hits some of the most merchandised cartoons of the past 20 years?
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Total pup supremacy
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>>152676233
Boomers bemoaned the commercialism aspect of toy cartoons mostly because they didn't have as much shit when they were kids; Like for them a toy was something special, but to their kids it was just something to be discarded and replaced a few months down the line when the next trend rolled around. Plus there were always some parents who spoiled their kids rotten and bought them everything, leading to peer pressure and their kids pressuring them to buy them more shit. Toys in the '80s and '90s were really the Fortnite V-Bucks of their day.
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>>152676243
More like 40
>>152676294
It's weird the attitude still lingers today. People still say toyetic like it's a swear
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>>152676265
I still can’t believe Japanese kids would rather buy toys from this show than Super Sentai
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>>152673495
They haven't
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>>152676333
I can. Much cuter
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>>152676265
In fairness I'd 100% have wanted that as a little kid
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>>152676444
Whale miring that mermaid
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>>152673495
I guess they stopped being profitable?
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>>152676265
If I were a 5 year old, this would blow my mind. I may not give a fuck about Paw Patrol, but I can fully admit that they know what they're doing and they do it well.
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>>152676243
faust is a moron what's new
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>>152677905
I'm wondering if in 30 years there will be balding kidults buying super deluxe panoramas of paw patrol like we have with shit like Masters of the Universe now
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>>152675211
This is the real answer, everything else ITT is secondary to this.
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>>152675049
Bah, Kingdom Hearts is for teenage white girls. We need DEDICATED, individual games for Disney franchises, not some weaboo catch-all.
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>People like Lauren Faust hate the idea of selling merchandise

Did she say something about this? Because all interview she always tell how she play with MLP toys and love it.
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>>152675263
They DID. Cartoons don't get nearly as much merch nowadays.
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>>152673552
>People like Lauren Faust hate the idea of selling merchandise because it impacts their storytelling

uhh, anon... her pony show was extremely merchandised and still is to an extent. you moron.
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>>152673495
Kids used to have money because their parents had money.
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>>152675263
When I was a kid Toys R Us had two full aisles of Nintendo merchandise. Not even games, just Nintendo branded toys and products.
You’re insane if you think the economic status quo that made that possible (alongside Batmania, Bartmania, Turtlemania, etc) bore any resemblance to the hellscape we’re in now.
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I want to fuck those Care Bears.

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