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Typical piss mop behavior
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>Keep that shit on the low streets and well away from here, pissmop.
>~Ashley
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>You'll really only ever see Tree lose his temper when someone threatens this place. The Court is his family, and all he really cares about in all the world. This isn't really a good thing.
>Anyway, blondie is gonna go get eaten by waterwomen, sorry buddy.
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>>152674825
Is Cope just making this arc a whole big musical, or is it just an operational hazard being around Tree?
I didn't mind him that much, thought he was reasonably cool, but the constant theatrics feel more forced than say - Delicious Lizard's rhyming or the general putting on of airs that Quigs, Daune, or pic related tended to. More in the style of appearing larger than life or posing with cool capes for every stand off, less high school musical for every minor interaction.
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>>152674825
The rhyming SHALL continue until anon stops complaining.
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>>152675260
I was about to mention that none of the flashbacks of Duane's living life were like this, neither in the army nor at home. We got a musical number as a treat, but that was to explain the caste system in story (and just a bunch of soldiers having a good time.)
But then, I suppose, that was a Soud gher, where the Dammakhert-feedbacklooping poetry wouldn't be in effect.
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>>152675239
much like in actual musicals, doing this lets the reader suspend disbelief as the characters exposit about their feelings, current events, and basic facts about the setting that they know but average readers don't.
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>>152675312
>But then, I suppose, that was a Soud gher, where the Dammakhert-feedbacklooping poetry wouldn't be in effect.
Yep that's why Jaer barely participated. He's not a born and bred theater kid like the other castes.
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>>152675708
Gonna be really funny when Miki starts taking up screen time and the older readers get to be amused by the dramatic irony of people being annoyed by this self absorbed little brat of a girl and demand to get more Sette.
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>>152675387
Just like every race, you have your beautiful examples (the Adeliers) and your ugly examples (this dude, Ricker).
We’ve seen that in every race and nationality possible in Unsounded, including the goddamned lizards.
If you study Cope’s backgrounds you’ll see that she’s got people of every shape and size— short and tall, young and old, ugly and beautiful, scruffy and clean, bulbous and pert facial features, fancy and plain. This comic has it all.
This guy’s probably just what happens when you grow up poor and malnourished as a Soud in a predominantly-Bronze slum, you don’t have anything that would mitigate your average looks, and average looks often turn ugly with the stamp of poverty.
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>>152676018
I think he's legit. Atheism/agnosticism as a widespread belief is a modern phenomenon, and while not everyone in Unsounded is orthodox or fanatical, they're all believers to a greater or lesser degree (sans most Black Tongues). Alderode in particular is dealing with its religious divide as a factor for a looming civil war, so even if other countries weren't particularly devout, you can assume it would still be very much the case here.
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>>152676089
In the world of Unsounded where the afterlife is so tangible and known you'd have to be kinda retarded to be an athiest. People not adjusting their "beliefs" even when confronted with the reality of things in the world of their story is something I personally like, when they're called out on it. If they're not called on it and they have undeserved plot armor to maintain their bullshit it's not so good.
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>>152675708
I’m more into Tree now that it seems he’s tragically out of his depth. He appears to like to think of Sevencrows as separate from the general Aldish stupidity, but it’s really just people clinging together in poverty and need with the wider Aldish tensions still bubbling along. We see Jaer and Tree unphased and blasé about today’s terrorism, they come down and hand out food to Geffi and moulten alike. But he started the morning killing a plod manufacturer, he’s finishing it sentencing a man to death over religious violence. We can already see he’s as much a puppet as the one he bought, and Sevencrows is not going to be spared the schism.
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>>152676886
There literally is an afterlife though. We've seen it. It's not even incompatible with the belief systems we know.
>you die
>all the memories and emotions get sloughed off your soul and form weirdo khert creatures
Is there some kind of soul-seed that exists purely beyond that and reincarnates, or is your 'soul' just the accumulation of all that and dissipates with the rest of it? Duane is our only real evidence (soul kept intact at death) and you could argue either way, but I believe the former because that's how it works in Legacy of Kain.
It does get fucky because the mind appears to be the soul as far as Kasslyne goes, but it's a two-way interaction (Duane has a better memory now than he did alive) and if you get soulless for some reason it's possible the back-up hardware kicks in and you can still think with just the brain. It's a weird setting man, Cope is so right when she says Kasslynians aren't human.
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Also the system was so clearly designed that I believe there were 'gods' at some point in the chain, i.e. people who could interact with and change the programming at all levels - a lot of what it seems must BE programmed is closed off to humans and probably senets too given Ilganyag needs to scheme - but I am aware I'm repeating Paley's Watchmaker argument to some extent in saying that.
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>>152676949
Iori explains to us the religious conception of a soul in Kassylne when she's talking to Matty in chapter 11.
Religiously, the soul is something that persists through all lives. It's a core 'thing' that reincarnates, gains memories, then sloughs them off at death and goes back into the world again.
Now scientifically, the soul is what allows humans to connect to the khert- they have ports that interact with the Khert, if they are rited or innate they can speak Old Tainish and cast. The soul is also something that evolves- There can be mutations in the soul, like Duane and Mikaila being Tacit and Innate. They both have a born connection to the Khert AND have the extra port that allows the Khert to read their thoughts.
But as we learned at the end of Unsounded Book 1, the current state of the Khert, holding all the memories of all time? That wasn't what it was in the beginning. That was a Change, a Mistake. Originally, the Khert was empty and did not collect memories.
So what does that tell us?
Probably that a lot of these religious notions are a bit of bupkis- the idea of memories kept and reincarnation comes from humans observing and interacting with a Changed Khert. We don't know what the religious ideas were BEFORE that Change, but they were probably different, and knowing that The Change was manmade... yeah it seems like reincarnating souls probably aren't a real thing. The soul is most likely just a metaphysical part of your body/self that fades when you die.
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>>152676949
>There literally is an afterlife though. We've seen it.
WE'VE seen it. In the comic no one fucking knows. It's the great unsounded. Sette popping into the afterlife using her zombie as a climbing rope is supposed to be literally impossible. The shit that went down with tittybird was some Lovecraftian bullshit that no one was prepared for. Plain ol' humans are stuck dealing with snakedick in an attempt just to actually understand the human soul.
Besides all that, the afterlife we see matches none of the existing religions. The gods aren't there to greet you. Neither is Sael. Neither really existed the way their adherents think of them. All that happens is your memories get dumped in the pot like everything else to simmer for eternity.
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>>152677074
>But as we learned at the end of Unsounded Book 1, the current state of the Khert, holding all the memories of all time? That wasn't what it was in the beginning. That was a Change, a Mistake. Originally, the Khert was empty and did not collect memories.
That doesn't mean it isn't like that now, though. I think the discussion over whether "The Man" made a fictional understanding true, made a chance that retroactively created an understanding or whether there was a framework there already that was modified is interesting.
Like it seems likely given how integrated the soul is to Kasslynian biology that it existed before "The Man". So what happened to the emotions and memories before the change? Like inLegacy of Kainthe answer would be they were eaten for sustenance by an evil god. An empty khert isn't incompatible with gods and/or Ssaelism!
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>>152677086
also the fact the weeping plague seems to bug out the regular slough off of the human soul is SUPER interesting
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>>152677086
>The gods aren't there to greet you. Neither is Sael. Neither really existed the way their adherents think of them.
yeah none of the senets refer to the twin gods, just The Creators. they cosnider yerta, riv, tirna, and baelor fake and made up
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>>152677100
According to Sessine the memories just got annihilated. My own theory is that the khert memory accumulation will get stopped one way or other at some point because the place isn't so full of squishies and eels you can't move and pymarics actually still work despite infestation risk. Khert is timeless but the physical world is not so it only has the memories from the point where the collection starts to the point where it ends, not an infinite amount.