>>152679360
And while we're at it, bring back the Wonderdome. I will never get beyond it.

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>>152679644
Unironically. The Wonder Dome is raw as hell, and it should be used as Diana's equivalent to the Fortress of Solitude or Bat Cave.

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>>152679360
It's because it's too hokey; it's literally just a plane. If I were DC, I would make it more "fantasy", like a winged bireme of sorts.

>>152679360
It looks dumb when you can see who's driving it.

>>152679360
A lot of people find that a modern jet clashes with her ancient Greek aesthetic. personally I think this was fixed with the retcon that it's a shapeshifting force that can become any vehicle, so she changed it to a jet once she discovered the modern world.

>>152679360
Because she can already fly, it's dumber than sonic driving a car

>>152680463
>"It looks dumb because I can't comprehend the idea of non-diagetic visuals."

>>152680347
>>152680481
The WW franchise started with the Amazons having advanced technology. DC has been retarded and insistent on trying to erase that. Themyscira should always have advanced tech, because that's fun.

>>152680514
She can only carry so much when she's flying under her own power

The Jet means she can carry passengers and cargo. It also means she can communicate (with passengers or on the radio) or rest during long distance flights
She can examine and evaluate battle plans or maps

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>>152680514
You can walk, so I guess you don't need a car or a bus. Moron.

>>152680557
This. It's even explained in Rucka's run. Frankly, it shouldn't have to be explained since it all the reasons one would need an invisible jet plane for seem damn obvious, but whatever.

>>152679360
1. She can already fly
2. It's wholly impractical at face value
3. It doesnt make Diana herself invisible for some dumb reason so it's entirely worthless as is
4. Again, she can fly

>>152679360
Because you can still see her. So it looks silly.

>>152680557
she can carry the jet and everyone inside it with one hand

>>152680672
HOW you hold things is more tricky than what you can hold. She can't get a grip on too many people.

>>152680672
Having super strength does not equate to having a dozen hands. Anon, come on.

>>152680557
>>152680683
>>152680709
Okay, so, why not just use a regular jet plan? Batman probably has one or two she could bum for a day or two, no? Why does the plane HAVE to be invisible?

>>152680557
Sh doesn’t need to transport cargo or more people than one.

>>152680551
>The WW franchise started with the Amazons having advanced technology.
Yes I know that but I'm trying to reconcile the tech with the aesthetic.

>>152680723
Stealth, bruh.

>>152680726
>the international superhero doesn't need to transport cargo or passengers
...

>>152680763
>aesthetic
I don't know, make it look more Greco-Roman if you really need to satiate your autism so badly.

>>152679360
Artists and writers forgot that she is also invisible inside it.

>>152680799
Was she meant to be visible in it or was it just some kind of shorthand that got misinterpreted

>>152680780
Hence the winged bireme example.

>>152680764
She doesn’t.

>>152680799
She is invisible inside it. It's just drawn that way to show her inside it then it became a meme to draw it that way.

>>152680799
She is invisible inside it. It's fans who can't wrap their brains around the visual of WW being visible to the audience but not to anyone in the comic/cartoon

It's a visual shorthand

>>152680936
She can have different types of missions.
Including stealth missions

Or what if she's transporting Steve AND Etta somewhere. Is she supposed to just fly them both with one under each arm and leave them all vulnerable to anti-air artillery?
What if she is delivering relief supplies from Themyscira to a place struck by natural disasters?
Or she's transporting a dangerous artifact to a lab so it can be examined?

What I'm taking away from this thread is that audiences are stupid, uncreative, and caring more about nitpicking than entertainment. Not exactly a huge revelation, but still.

>>152681135
Have those ever happened?

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>>152680764
>>152681135
>Wonder Woman
>stealth

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When Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic in 1927, that was like landing a man on the moon. Aviation became a big thing in American pop culture all thru the 1930s with celebrity pilots, radio drama series, movies, magazines, et cetera. Famous women pilots like Amelia Earhart and others were seen as progressive, because, in a country where your husband might not let you drive the car, the idea of a woman flying a plane seemed almost like science fiction. By the time WW debuted in 1941, it actually made sense that she'd not only fly her own plane, but that she *built* it herself. It was part of the book's whole pro-woman wish fulfillment fantasy.

>>152680683
She could just carry them in her invisible purse.

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>>152681434
She is often associated with the spy genre. Infamously had an entire era where she was retooled into a super spy. Yes, stealth.

>>152680048
How have I never heard of this?

>>152679360
Why does she have a jet figther when so many people on the island aren't using that sort of tech?

Like when they get attacked all the time why aren't the regular amazons top gunning.

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>>152682462
It's from the mostly forgotten Eric Luke run. SO for a while, Diana's invisible plane was a shapeshifting alien entity made of liquid metal. One day it just sort of took on the form of a flying fortress.

>>152682554
That is a damn good question. I fucking hate how DC seems determined to not let the Amazons have their whacky Golden Age supertech. And while we're at it, bring back the kangas too. It's a superhero story, let it be fantastical.

>>152679360
I'm sorry but it looks dumb as hell. At least make everyone and everything in it invisible too. Better yet, give her a Pegasus and a cape of invisibility (not limited by actual cape dynamics)

>>152683078
>it looks silly
The mere concept of superheroes is silly. Also, you're actually retarded if you cannot grasp that she is only visible to the audience.

>>152680463
THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS! Dumbass....

>>152683578
It really is baffling how so many people don't comprehend that she's not actually visible in-universe. We the viewers can see her, but other characters can't. It's just supposed to be a fun visual, but I guess folks are literally too fucking stupid to realize that.

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>>152679360
>Why do people hate on the Invisible Jet?

It's stupid for two reasons:
1. It doesn't make HER invisible. It's just invisible itself.
2. She can fucking fly faster than any jet. Superman doesn't have a super-jet. WW shouldn't have one either.
Bonus third reason:
3. Wonder Woman is a bad character and should be killed off.

>>152683578
>>152683615
Yes it does. It's really that stupid. The jet is invisible but doesn't make the pilot invisible.

>>152683615
>It's just supposed to be a fun visual

It is not a fun visual. It is cringe incarnate. I want to kill the artist every time I see it.

>>152683984
>1. It doesn't make HER invisible. It's just invisible itself.
Incorrect
>2. She can fucking fly faster than any jet. Superman doesn't have a super-jet. WW shouldn't have one either.
Wonder Woman could not fly on her own originally, that was added later. And Superman has has several vehichle in the past, he just uses them for space travel.
>Bonus third reason:
>3. Wonder Woman is a bad character and should be killed off.
False. She makes a good mediator between Superman and Batman's opposite approaches to crime fighting.

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>>152683984
>Superman doesn't have a super-jet.

>>152680514
DC only gave WW the ability to fly after they stopped using the invisible plane, fake fan

>>152680799
Imagine Marvel stopped using the half-Spider-Man mask spider sense visual because fans got angry thinking Peter's face was literally changing into a half-Spider-Man in front of J. Jonah Jameson

>>152680463
All the faggots cry because of what you said, but this is literally the problem and it has an easy solution.

>>152679360
She doesn't need it if she can fly. Either get rid of her flight or keep the jet. Both is stupid and shows the lack of identity she has.

>>152683792
Kek

>>152684691
It's different because nobody gets confused by it because it's a good visual

>>152684746
No it isn't. It looks stupid.

>>152684815
No

>>152680623
>She can already fly
only the lame versions

>>152679360
I wouldn't call them people

>>152680463
>driving
it's always third worlders

>>152679360
It seems kind of out of place for a character based so much around Greek Myth.

>>152685194
TIL greeks don't have planes

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>>152682554
>stupid argument defeated by funny books for children from 80 years ago
I swear everyone who discusses WW online is a sub-80 IQ retard

The invisible jet has been cool and useful in almost every adaptation it appears in (except the ones that try to "make it work" for stunted adults like the bullshit in WW84), but people prefer to enjoy characters by reading about them on twitter

All I'm asking is to make it not literally look like a normal jet and make it more "fantasy".

>>152685152
Thats the most kino 30 seconds I've ever seen

>>152682712
A lot of DC's own mythos and chaarcters stem from that era of wacky shit. One book you'd get Brainiac, the other you'd get a weird ass giant kid or some alien that turns Superman into a bug/centipede monster or whatever.
I mean I don't want those ideas all the time but coming up with pure sci-fi/twilight zone ideas is kind of what DC is built upon imo. It's the main draw besides the characters.

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>>152684002
Morons. She herself isn't visible, go pick up a book

>>152685462
So then I guess you want it to be more like the Earth One version, where it resembles a flying silver vagina.

>>152685494
Exactly. Capeshit is just like that.

>>152685851
Maybe less yonic but yes.

>>152679360
I don't like how it is literally just a fighter jet or how she is visible inside of it.
>She isn't visible in universe!
Great. She is in the art and it looks stupid. Draw her clear like any respectable invisible character in comics.

>>152685256
Anon, the greeks invented planes. inclined planes

>>152685152
how did he see her? i thought she's invisible in the plane?

>>152685321
I actually directly would prefer her jet look like those swan-shaped ones the other amazons are piloting

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>Amazon warrior from ancient greek myth
>Dresses in red-white-and-blue
>Has a lasso
>Also has an actual jet plane that's permanently invisible
Maybe people would like WW more if she didn't feel like a bootleg toy from a dollar store

>>152683984
Superman has an entire base in the artic filled with tech and robots

>>152685321
Yeah, 80 years ago anon, how are people expected to have read every old oneshot from before their parents were even born.

>>152685321
Those jobbers have cooler planes than her, and it looks like they're invisible inside it unlike the retarded "plane is invisible but she isn't" garbage art direction.

>>152679360
I wish they played into Diana as a genius more. She's too often written as a brute. What happened to the purple healing ray she invented?

>>152687955
Don't you get tired when ALL superheroes are actually geniuses?

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>>152687390
>>Dresses in red-white-and-blue
>>Has a lasso
Accidentally accurate

bump

>>152687390
>Amazon warrior from ancient greek myth
every problem with Wonder Woman can be tied to unimaginative people trying to reduce the Amazons to just ancient Greek era tech and visuals.

>>152687366
>>152687925
Part of Wonder Woman's whole thing is that she's a Manaboo.
She saw a modern man and wants to go to his world. She wants a jet like him and wear an outfit that looks like his flag.

>>152680347
I figured this was why they gave Absolute Wonder Woman that flying skeleton Pegasus.

>>152687974
No

>>152687974
Having many heroes be smart isn't a problem.
The problem is:
>Writers think being a genius = an expert in every domain of human knowledge so having smart characters specialize sounds weird to them
>Most writers aren't smart enough to write smart characters properly in general and usually have to revert to dumbing down other characters to make the focused on character look like the smartest in the room.

>>152687974
No cause only Batman is allowed to be "smart" (asspull)

>>152682023
Yeah, Linbergh was cool. Shame he said things against jewish people and then his baby was kidnapped and slaughtered by unknown forces for no reason whatsoever.