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So the next episode is a musical. How we feelin?
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Goose dead yet?
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>>152714766
Why shouldn’t it be prompted by other characters? The biggest conceit of the show is that humans are social creatures who need each other, she’s not just gonna go cocoon mode and sigma grindset her own development
Is character development without influence from other characters even a thing that happens in media?
(But also technically her interactions with Gummigoo since he isn’t a person)
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>>152714794
Yes, retard. There are characters who develop by themselves without being prompted by other characters. I shouldn't even need to explain this. Pomni is a plot device that doesn't develop without prompting from others.
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THE FISH HAT! AGAIN AND AGAIN!
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>>152714821
Because then the character feels like an empty plot device, which is what Pomni is.
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Slave Knight Gae
Salva (A Long Walk to Water)
Scout Finch
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TADC will end with everyone collectively agreeing to lock Jax in the pantry cabinet, where he will grow mold.
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>>152714786
She will kill herself after she copies the end of The Boys with the rest of the guys involved in the project
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>Gae
Yeah sounds it
idk any of these people and I’m not doing research for a premise you brought up, if you can’t think of anything mainstream examples of something you seem to think is common then I guess we’re done here
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>>152714886
No, it will have a much happier ending than that.
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Jax needs to be broken down psychologically and rebuilt. Caine and Zooble will come to an understanding and he’ll grant her wish for sex, then they’ll put Jax in a cock cage and subject him to orgasm denial until he breaks and agrees to be a good little boy
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>>152714910
So, to be clear. The examples I brought up were from Dark souls, A Long Walk to Water, and fucking To Kill a Mockingbird, and you said that those weren't mainstream examples. Holy shit, you're a retard.
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>>152714971
A character that doesn't develop without prompting for other characters is nothing more than a plot device for other characters to develop.
Name one thing that Pomni does to devlelop that's not reactionary to another character prompting her to do so.
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Pomni doesn’t do ANYTHING in service of herself. It’s always for another character’s story, or anything she does is in service of another character.
Every instance of her developing is a reaction to another character. Gummigoo, Jax, Kinger, she never develops anything on her own. She's only there to compliment the other characters and does nothing for herself. I've elaborated my argument plenty.
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>>152715032
>Complement
And Pomni’s whole thing is she wants to connect with people and is scared of being alone and forgotten. Of course her development involves other characters, it can’t not.
>I've elaborated my argument plenty.
You use chatGPT to write your essays, don’t you?
You also haven’t explained why being a reactive protagonist is a bad thing, or bad for this particular story.
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>>152715067
>Pomni is participating and enduring in the Circus just like the other characters are. Again, your "point" is nonsensical and completely arbitrary.
Oh, okay. So is it an ensemble story or is it not? Because Goose said that the two main characters are Jax and Pomni. Jax doesn't get any development until halfway through the show. The reason it's bad is because she comes off as a plot device with no character or agency of her own.
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>And Pomni’s whole thing is she wants to connect with people and is scared of being alone and forgotten. Of course her development involves other characters, it can’t not.
She can still have development of her own while still helping other characters. These are not mutually exclusive.
>You also haven’t explained why being a reactive protagonist is a bad thing
The reason is because it comes off as the protagonist having no agency or anything for themselves and is instead just a plot device for other characters to develop.
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Okay, then prove me wrong. Name something Pomni has done that isn't in response to another character prompting her.
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>>152715105
>She can still have development of her own
Like what?
>The reason is because it comes off as the protagonist having no agency or anything for themselves and is instead just a plot device for other characters to develop.
This isn’t bad or unsuited to the story just because it doesn’t interest you. Plenty of stories have static protagonists who just roll in and fix everyone else’s shit. Pomni at least has motivation built into her where her core characteristics justify her use as a POV character
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>>152715105
>Plot device
>The characters naturally moving the story forward makes them a "plot device"
>A main character cannot be primarily reactive because of reasons
Genuinely cannot tell if you're retarded or baiting at this point.
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>>152714905
Post Jax in embarrassing situations
https://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/571/ae260d75b448053c438807a9cca49cbc.p ng
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>>152715180
>Like what?
Anything that involves her motivating herself to improve. Come on now, you cannot be this retarded.
>Plenty of stories have static protagonists who just roll in and fix everyone else’s shit.
And they suck.
>This isn’t bad or unsuited to the story just because it doesn’t interest you.
It's bad because it's bad.
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They're moving the story forward by being entirely reactive from others, which was my whole point.
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>They're moving the story forward by being entirely reactive from others, which was my whole point.
And this is bad, because? What else would there be to do in the Circus other then to talk and react to others? You want Pomni to grow by herself as a character? What would that look like in the circus? How has Pomni not already grown as a character? Have you even watched the show?
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>>152715328
You're right. Now i feel dumb for giving him (you)'s.
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i saw a dobson video of TADC pop up on my youtube recommendeds...
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I like Pomni because she it's clear she likes letting loose and doesn't want to be treated like a child. When she's more comfortable she can be kind of a smug bitch with a quip, but she also knows how to present herself as more respectable too.
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>And this is bad, because?
I've stated this thirty times already. Because then they're just a plot device for the other characters and not a character for themselves.
>How has Pomni not already grown as a character?
I never said this. I said that she's only grown because of the result of other characters. Not because of herself.
>What else would there be to do in the Circus other then to talk and react to others?
Exploring the rest of the circus which they've never shown beyond episode one and a brief scene in seven? Motivate herself to interact more with others? Try finding ways of escaping? Again, you still haven't answered the question.
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Thinking about Jax putting off going to the bathroom during the Spudsy's episode and pooping his pants on the job so he can go home early, but Gangle tells him no so now he has to work the rest of his shift with a load in his pants.
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>>152715343
I can't even imagine how he misinterprets what's happening. He must be one of those types that believe Jax's rant was supposed to be taken at face value and can't understand why he's getting treated as a tragic character.
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I doubt it’ll be a full musical episode, but I think there’s a good chance Caine’s gonna sing a self-serving apology song that completely misses the point of why people are mad at him
Or that he’ll at least try but the others tell him to cut it out before he gets going, like Donkey trying to turn Shrek into a musical
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So this song but more silly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSIOcCcEVaE
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>>152715637
What part of "main character" did you not understand?
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Wonder which fags are getting shut down next episode if that's the case
>Lorefags notice small trails like the bg mannequin and C&A stuff, crafting all these out-there theories of the cast escaping
>All the supposed deep lore bg details was just bait to shit on lorefags about how stupid and wrong they were about the direction of the show
>Now that the show is nearing it's end everyone worries and whines about lack of filler or character interaction
>Episode ends up either being a bunch of flashbacks which tie together all interrelationship knots and show how the cast has come to be the way it is, or
>Episode obliterates a lot of conceived relationships from the show like Kinger and Caine's fanon 'parent/son' bond or Ragatha/Jax having some significant ex-frienship
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Well...
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>implying any other language matters
Weebs, not even once.
Imagine watching a cartoon, made in English, by people who all speak English, and feeling the need to say "Uh, itz the EN VA spucifikly" as if anyone gives a flying fuck about the Japanese dub (which I guarantee you watch this show in).
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Why do some artists give Jax a shirt? Why do they censor his nipples from the world?
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>>152716047
Fake and gay
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It looks cool and more masculine. I think it was first done by Washimy21 on tiktok, who just posted evil titty jax.
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Have any of you scored the Golden Pomnibubu?
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>>152716207
I don't care about it. I just want a regular Pombubu or the unicorn one. Still contemplating if i should buy a box or not.
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It's weird how badly the pilot has aged, I thought it was interesting when it was new but I can't help but notice how actual dogshit the writing and line delivery is in it.
I get what they're going for with Jax now who's coping by being a cartoon character but everything he does is cringe/not funny.
Zooble is a non-character.
Kinger feels the most off compared to his later characterization.
The line delivery is harder to explain but characters pause awkwardly a lot and it generally sounds unnatural.
For me this is the real problem with Digital Circus only being 9 episodes because I don't think the show actually starts being good til like episode 4.
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Because I like stories about heros answering the call more than ones about fate, destiny, chosen ones, or the ones where the character is inseparably related to the conflict, like through family or revenge plots.
I like that Captain America is a hero simply because he's a good man instead of a scenario where he's only fighting because the red skull killed his family or somehow his brother.
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Goddamn, I thought the ep1 vinyl was exorbitant. The gold animegaz would probably go for at least 8k then.
>>152716373
The pilot gaslit me and fucked my mom
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marry reproduce have family very easy
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>>152716366
Yeah I honestly hated the pilot lol. It’s super cringe, and the sensory/information/gag overload made it so hard to follow, I really related to Pomni in the hallway being like “wait, what are we doing again?” for the simple task to “going to meet someone”
I really wouldn’t hold it against Goose if she were to George Lucas it, which is a desire she’s expressed lol (not that I see any chance of it actually happening)
But obviously it had enough going for it that I stuck around, and the way it blew the fuck up speaks for itself. And how insanely far the show’s come since then is really impressive.
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>>152716397
>Because I like stories about heros answering the call more than ones about fate, destiny, chosen ones, or the ones where the character is inseparably related to the conflict, like through family or revenge plots.
I really doubt that Pomni is some chosen one because I don't think Goose would write an episode basically dunking on tropes like those just to play it straight. I think her red/blue color scheme is a hint that she'll be important, but I don't think she's innately important, if that makes sense.
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>>152716397
I think Circus is a pretty cool gal. Ehs compassion poepls and only afraids of some things.also jussy
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>>152716486
red/blue color scheme has been theorized as representing who wants to stay or leave the cirus
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>>152716555
Is this where we fuck the bugs?
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>>152716579
>How does it make the smell too
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Terrible writing, razzie of the year
>>152716631
Bitch just completely ignored Ming. Fucking weak.
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>yfw it ends like the bad ending of Abe’s Oddysee with Pomni in peril and the other circus members debating on whether she’s done enough for them to be worth saving and they decide to let her useless ass get tossed in the meat grinder
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The carnival isn't mentioned until the final minutes of the series finale, where Caine and the Big Tops head off towards to relax after a stressful couple of episodes. We do not see the carnival because the final credits of the show start rolling as they walk off towards it.
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>>152716470
Imagine what would happen if Caine created a toddler so Jax and Pomni could fulfill their desire to be parents, and they fell in love with the child and raised him/her for years and years as responsible and loving parents... until one day Caine simply said "Well, that was fun, but enough is enough", and erased the child from the digital existence with a snap of his fingers. It would be hilarious to see Pomni and Jax's emotional devastation.
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I don't really feel that strongly over the statement pomni and jax are the "main" characters, since yeah they both were set up pretty early to have the most going on, but fucks sakes I hope its not some stupid shit like they're the ONLY real people and everyone else is an AI. that'd be the most hack fraud shit imaginable.
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i clicked them both, god help me
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>>152715343
>dobson has a Youtube channel
What the fuck? What's it called?
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i drew a funnybunny kid
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>>152717243
i think caine just made them all one day and they sprang up fully grown like the baby dimension from fire emblem fates. but if that's not the case i'm sure it was fun for pomni and jax.
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thank you. i'm not really a funnybunny guy but i think he's got spunk. here's the rough concepts for everyone else.
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hug
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ummm h-hello?
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Sending Zooble to Hell!
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>>152716133
>This is Her avatar
>Claims to be asexual
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>>152716579
Ragatha WISHES she had tits like that
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>>152717749
Gangle, deep down, is just a silly little goober
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>>152717805
I'd love them to play Call of Cthulhu next as a group RPG. This picture perfectly encapsulates the normal group dynamic of most people fucking off with one person recognizing the stakes and one person already having lost their mind
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>>152718038
A sexual what?
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>>152717996
We have to kill ourselves when the comet passes so our souls can ascend to the digital realm!
(Yes I know that’s Heavens Gate, but self-castrating and abandoning your earthly vehicle to detach from our reality feels on theme)
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Nerd VAs pretending to be asexual is the bizarro world of K-pop stars pretending to be single.
The nature of the job necessitates that you convince all the sweaty, autistic, parasocial nerds who worship you that you will never be interested.
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>>152718116
D-do you really think so?
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>>152718132
FLAT CHESTS/SMALL BREASTS ARE INCREDIBLY HOT
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I think it'd be fucking funny if the whole cast is expecting Caine to be super shady and ominous, especially because he seems to be acting that way which leads into the spooky snap. Only to reveal that he setup a talent show for everybody, and also he sings a goofy song about wanting them to like him.
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Man I still want a couch episode
Instead of a talent show I want the cast to be teleported to a building with 9 flights of stairs. Then Jax is forced to drag the couch to the top floor as punishment for being an asshole while Caine sings at everyone
If this exact thing doesn't happen I will freak the fuck out (on reddit)
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>>152718385
Anon, the one time Zooble told Chain she wanted to fuck, he lost his shit.
There is no telling wtf would happen if he saw two players doing it
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>Implying he wasn't lying about not being able to see in the Chinese room
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> There is no telling wtf would happen if he saw two players doing it
Exactly. So it’s totally possible he may try to join in.
> lying about not being able to see in the Chinese room
What he said (through Abel) was that of course he’s able to see into the room, but he’s very committed to his bits. Which, like most of his lies, is a half truth. He still hasn’t actually ruined the not looking in the Chinese Room bit. He’ll possibly know if two players fuck in it, but it gives him a very good out to not acknowledge them openly. Like some Norman Bates style creepo that’s watching them through a hole in the wall behind a painting.
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>Pomni, we can't both exist. I'm going to become half of you.
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>>152718612
Pomni looks extra cute in that screenshot
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>post this in group on facebook
>bunch of retarded lefties call me a nazi
>banned
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>>152718708
but she said it was big enough!
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Seethe
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>>152718423
Who told you?
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>>152718636
Cute little gremlin
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>>152718758
Caine is the only actual human and all of the characters are fragments of his personality that he has projected into their own characters as he works to create the perfect game. He though this would work best to playtest, but now is stuck in the game. Abstracted characters are the personality fragments that have become totally corrupted by the game.All except Pomni, who was sent into the game to get Caine out, but is suffering from the same issues he did at first in terms of memory loss and such, so she's forgotten herm mission
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>>152718844
Why is Pomni going critical reactor levels here?
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Oh no! Ragatha is mere seconds from extreme harm at the hands of a purple menace! How do (you) save her?
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collab with don quijote which i think is a discount store chain. probably means exclusive merch sold there.
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>>152718874
The new Ragatha and Pomni dresses are super cute.
It is odd how much sexier Zooble and Gangle are when you put clothes on them.
>Medicos
The Jojo SAS guys?
I can't say I ever expected this much /toy/ import crossover when this show started.
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>>152715032
Are you saying she never acts in self-interest, or that she never acts in a way that serves her growth as a character? Because the first is demonstrably untrue (running from Kaufmo, going through the exit door) and the second is as well, it's just that other characters are a catalyst for this (her showing ingenuity working with Gummigoo to escape the under the map zone, Kinger helping her to be brave to escape hell and inspiring her to tell Ragatha she appreciates her trying to welcome Pomni to the circus, her finally letting go of Gummigoo so she can focus on the humans around her). Crucially this is not a bad thing at all, considering one of the main themes of the show is how much people need each other for sanity and growth, how much you suffer and stagnate when you push others away, which is the point of Jax's character, and why he's the show's other focal point.
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>>152714710
>Not having abstraction form specific to the user's avatar
We were fucking robbed.
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That's the premise of some r34 https://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/19/2118788ae4f461c8bc748e1143a4fd94.jp eg
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I want to finally see this accursed frog but part of the appeal is how mysterious and ethereal she is
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And we'll all go together when we go o/~ Everybody!
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>episode 9 livestream ends
>the nukes drop
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Have the gang tried asking Caine politely to let them go? Post yfw if that's the finale
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>>152719683
If this show can finish before Armageddon then i will be satisfied enough with my life. I literally don't care about anything else.
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>idk CAN YOU?
>mfw this is the final line of the series
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*Idk CAINE YOU?
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TWO WEEKS, SIX DAYS AND 19 HOURS UNTIL YOU CRY
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If nobody has any memory about their real names before then it’s likely for a very good reason. Like what if their identities getting revealed hurts Caine’s feelings? If I were Caine? I would abstract them on the spot the moment they relearn themselves and then shove a new copy of their souls into new original characters and pretend nothing even happened.
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