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so, the next three stories were published in color. this first one was redrawn for the DH saga book (I believe) so I'll leave it untouched, but the other too I'll post their color versions so you all can rage about the changing eye colors- I mean so you can appreciate how it compares to modern color UY.
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well, would you like to see the original too? I can just post it right after too. the thread image limit can handle it.
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>>153139164
coming right up, then.
just look at those tasteful flat colors and how they enhance the gradients on the sky.
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>>153139115
>I am one of just three to whom he taught this new style
I kinda get why he didn't, but I still think he really should have fixed this line for the redraw. It makes no sense placed here in the chronology since we know of four students of Katsuichi and the two preceding Usagi presumably didn't evaporate.
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>>153139310
know your ritual disembowelments, it can save your face!
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>>153139334
The Implication there is that instead of councilor Odo cutting his belly and then having someone cut his neck for a fast and merciful death, had to spend several agonizing minutes there bleeding to death, while having to maintain a kneeling position.
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>>153139155
>two generations of the Geishu have had faggot advisors
Is this some sort of hereditary mental deficiency? Gullible trust in evil retards? Noriyuki's usually portrayed as wise for his years, but he consistently fails to see through Horikawa's bullshit this exact same way.
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the following two stories have no redrawn panels in the their black-and-white versions.
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Poor little Tomoe. So much sadness in those big, pretty brown eyes. It breaks my heart.
After seeing those pages, can you understand why I rage so hard when they're colored green or grey and keep switching?
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>>153139380
Multiple reasons.
1, Conniving and treasonous counselors were the norm. Remember the guy who got headshot during Grasscutter episode 1?
2, Lead based makeup was a thing back then and women were not told to stop wearing it during pregnancy.
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this is the equivalent of a teen putting up an edgy poster in their room
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>>153139458
sir, FLOO counter at 15 and counting, sir!
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top two panels remind me of woodblock prints.
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>>153139363
Like here! Violet? Are you shitting me?
>>153139408
And here! Suddenly green then back to brown in a span of two panels!
This comic is cursed when it's in color. Apparently it always has been.
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>>153139505
Since I fiercely vented during the last storytime, I promised myself not to overreact this year. But yes, I am always seething.
However, I'm choosing to believe that the panel in question is just badly scanned and the compression did not help.
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>>153139438
>Conniving and treasonous counselors were the norm.
That should just make the lords warier.
>Lead based makeup was a thing back then and women were not told to stop wearing it during pregnancy.
I guess that wouldn't.
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ugly little gradient here but overall, these color editions are so much better than what we have today it's not even funny. it's actually quite sad, in my opinion. but I'm sure there some of you who enjoy modern UY.
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like, just look at this cloud- it's straight out of a shin-hanga design.
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>>153139672
Ever since here Usagi has been a simp for fox girls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaKNAAAcZF4
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the "BITCH!" comment was changed to SNARL! in the black-and-white edition btw.
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Uh oh, more incoming hentai!
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>>153139788
Do note that this color story came out before the sumi set story, which is probably why the kid at the end hasn't fallen under the control of the sumi set.
Or maybe it only starts working when it has child blood ink in it?
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>>153140044
I love that dub like you wouldn't believe.
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The closest we will ever get to a lovemaking scene. Ever.
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>>153140174As much as I detest the notion of marrying off Tomoe(I know, I'm a degenerate shipper), I have to admit I find Saburo here to be an interesting Dark Horse candidate as a husband, if only because he'd so very obviously be in the same boat as Tomoe, and I think you could, in theory develop an unorthodox sort of relationship out of that.
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>>153140215
Now imagine ifshe was married to lord Ito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xGpo8CPQz0
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>DOG painter brings evil portrait to Noriyuki
You aren't fooling anyone, Koro
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>>153139833
>Do note that this color story came out before the sumi set story
That's what I'm saying, it's nutty that he wrote the entire sumi set story so he could set up the reprint of this story in continuity later.
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>>153139623
I like the idea of color Usagi since the world is colorful and color can add a lot to scenes, but that clashes with the fact that Stan spent decades drawing in B&W and a lot of artistic choices were made with that in mind.
Doesn't help that the editors/colorists often seem to be asleep at the wheel but I consider that a problem of competence instead of style.
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>A Quiet Time - The Road Beckons: Usagi Leaves The Geishu Province
https://youtu.be/rg4OREDwy9k
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Also, Hikiji seems to have ongoing designs on the Geishu lands, and getting a man inside (Arimura, Odo, Iké's first wife, plausibly Horikawa), is a key part of that. He probably spent years doing the same thing under Mifune's nose.
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>>153140458
that's alright, as long as it's not Man-Machine Interface. that thing gave me headaches.
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>>153140568
Now I must take this opportunity to shill the shit out of the excellent manga series, Hyouge mono.
What does it have? It has everything you'd want!
>late sengoku period warfare
>samurai politics
>historical characters
>comedy
>booba
and most importantly, TEA CEREMONY AND AESTHETICS AUTISM OUTTA WAZOO!
So what are you waiting for? Go and set out to find some high culture!
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>>153140705
a series by and for the gentlemen aesthete.
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Well the guy he saw wasn't out for a pleasant stroll at night, he was running. And running in the dark is not something you do unless you have to, which probably means trouble of some kind. Either the figure is in trouble or is causing trouble. Both are worth investigating.
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To be frank, this guy brought it upon himself.
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https://youtu.be/umO0QJQoNOo?si=H2THMNgRJneY4B6G&t=3
t: Feudal Japan
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he's going to crash into tomoe's wedding ceremony, and be ignored as norkio did the same just before.
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and that's it for today, thank you for reading.
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>>153141046
Thank you for storytiming, murder.
Looking forward to tomorrow andgaijin cabron
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I miss Tomoe.
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>>153140215The suggestion isn't that Saburo would marry her – the idea is that Lord Ito would. He was already named previously, "Ito Noren, a vassal of Lord Kojima". Saburo was merely sent to assess her suitability as a bride for Lord Ito, which he obviously couldn't do himself.
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If the numbers seem high, it's because I doubled the specific counts for the three stories in color and in black and white. ISBN rule.
Book 22
637 Usagis (10148 total)
1339 Panels (21147 total)
85 Neko (1054 total)
No Komori (197 total)
No Mogura (37 total)
No Ninjas of the Dark Light (4 total)
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>Don't tell Usagi you're his child
>But I'm a rabbit
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>you're a cat and the other guy is a bear... dog thing
>So?
>I think he's gonna notice
>Son there is so much bullshitdo going on in this era you could wear a shirt that said I AM YOUR SON on it and he'd still block it out.
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Why Tomoe doesn't scream Usagi about marrying her and having tons of samurai-sexo aimed to procreation?
Noriyuki #31 will be happy and will appoint Usagi ultra general of his army in less of two weeks.
Thanks to nepotism Jotaro could be enlisted in Noriyuki samurai entourage
They can push Chizu against the jonin traitor and transform the Neko Ninja Clan as an ally.
The moustached courtesan has no weapons against Usagi (for now).
No, Tomoe should marry Ito furry-mole ancestor daimyo of the ancestral Kuril Islands
Probably there is an answer in these past stories but I am too stupid for understand it
And probably in Senso has been explained too.
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>>153139155
what did he meant by this character
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I know this was originally an early story, but at this poing Usagi should be leagues above Tomoe or any other castle samurai. He's been fighting almost daily and walking across Japan should keep him in better shape that any normal training routine could.
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The funny thing is, there's an actual canon answer from Sakai himself!
>What color are Usagi's eyes? Sometimes they look pink, and other times they look blue.
>(UY Vol 1, #8) Usagi's eyes are indeed pink, but he tends to wear tinted contact lenses, hence the discrepancy. No, actually, I tend to color his eyes pink, while Tom Luth colors them blue. We'll try to be more consistent in the future.
https://web.archive.org/web/20040725183315/https://www.usagiyojimbo.co m/intro/faq/faq_uy.html#faq6
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>We'll try to be more consistent in the future.
Lmao. Lol.
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>>153141189You fucked up your spoiler.
It's obviously not clear since we haven't seen that story but my suspicion is that the Tomoe Wedding arc drama is going to be about something likeUsagi finding out about Lord Ito's intentions, eharing that Tomoe is getting married and rushing to the Geishu province, finding out Ito was killed by the neko ninja or abandoned negotiations or some shit months ago, and this jolting him into deciding to propose to Tomoe himself, but then in a sour twist of dramatic irony discovering that Tomoe was already married off to a Geishu retainer instead, which is the situation in Senso.
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I like the difference between this page and its B&W counterpart, there they travel by palanquin and they redraw the POV so the castle feels big and majestic. Both are great in their own right but intent is as important as quality, and I think the B&W version does a better job on helping the story.
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>the other guy is a bear... dog thing
Ito is a beaver or hamster or some other type of rodent, look at those teeth: >>153140174
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Yeah, figured I'd screw myself over because I still capitalize beginning words like a civilized person.In truth, the story should hit harder than that. Having him show up during the final negotiations would so much better emphasize how powerless he is due to voluntarily choosing to be a wanderer, which would greatly add to his bitterness. Add in the details you mentioned, especially how it ends(Noriyuki with the last-minute yet well-meaning spoiler of hope to really dig in the blade)
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Again it's striking how often these assassination attempts end up coming off the moment Usagi's left. At this point it almost feels like he should've learned to stick around for six more hours after he thinks he's done every time.
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The other happier possibility is thathe actually secretly intends the wedding arc to be the final story of the comic whenever he dies or retires and that the twist is the wedding of Tomoe Ame ends up being to Usagi.Besides that it would most likely read much the same I suspect.
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If only Homer was here
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I'M NOT CRAZY! YOU'RE CRAZY! OR A NEKO NINJA IN DISGUISE! DID HIKIJI SEND YOU TO DISCREDIT ME!?
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>>153142175
I could have sworn it happened almost right after the Tomoe tea ceremony.
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>>153139654
Oh fuck is Kitsune!!!
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Never mind its just a Kitsune!!!
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>>153141794
They sneak into the castle in hidden swarms, and then attack in swarms because they got spotted. And you need swarms when one master swordsman on site is gonna kill like thirty of your guys -- if you don't have forty you'll fail the job.
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I think we discover the secret, Usagi has a type.
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You might be misremembering because Stanwrote Senso(the first time in a long while we saw Tomoe)while on a long hiatus from the actual comic and when he came back to it, it was the foreigner's tale he did.
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Is this the same old fart who was making that vague threat towards Usagi last time?
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Oh, I know this one: Given his age, Ito probably already has a wife and was going to take Tomoe as a Mistress before passing him off to a Subordinate, possibly when another girl catches his eye or when he realizes Clan Ito needs kids and his dick ain't up to the process.
That just kind of happens, a similiar thing happened in Samurai Rebellion, directed by Masaki Kobayashi, starring Toshiro Mifune.
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>Tomoe as Motherfucking Sanger
We got good taste in these threads
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>>153141083
no, that's a little ways out still. tomorrow it's aboutbeggars,bridgesandbest girl.
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chanyou is one of the best uses of the "how it's made" trope, weaving character development into it. and I'm sure it wasn't stan's intention to not use tomoe for 20 years, my theory is he has tomoe and usagi's re-encounter ready but will only do it if he wishes to end the series, or at least move it to an "end state".
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>He grabs the walking staff by the top
>The blade slides right out of its sheath
>They both stand there in awkard silence while the gears turn
>The assassin lunges at the merchant, hoping to seize his weapon
>The merchant raises the blade in panic and the assassin skewers himself on the blade
>The assassin never meets Usagi because he is fucking dead
>The merchant and his autistic daughter go on to live a long and happy life
A man can dream dammit
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Eye color anon, I need your strength!
Tell me, what color eyes does Chizu have?
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>Yeah, figured I'd screw myself over because I still capitalize beginning words like a civilized person.
You know you don't have to type the spoiler tags by hand, right? Just whack Ctrl-S and spoiler tags will be placed around whatever text you've got selected. (If you haven't got any text selected, it will proc a pair of empty tags at the location of the text cursor.)
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>400 replies in a little over 4 hours since thread creation time
Oh yeah, we're gonna need a talk-back thread for this one.
Old usagiheads will already know this, but Tomoe Ame is based in part on Stan's first wife, Sharon Sakai. Sharon was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor in 2004. Treatment kept the disease at bay until late 2011 when Sharon's health took a turn for the worse. Chanoyu was published in April 2006. The last UY issue before Stan took a work hiatus was published in 2012. In between he stopped working on Usagi to take care of Sharon. Dark Horse rallied 262 artists and published The Sakai Project in 2014 to help the Sakai family with medical expenses including 24-hour care for Sharon.Sharon passed away that year..
Stan began working on Usagi Yojimbo again in 2015. This included the mainline comic and also "Senso" a sort of what-if ending to Usagi Yojimbo the series which we traditionally storytime out of chronological sequence to end the yearly storytimes. The 47 Ronin, a separate comic about the titular 47 Ronin from history, was something Stan worked on in 2014.
If the next few stories seem miserable and very Feudal Japan, well. Our guy was going through a lot.
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Lmao, this panel is so goofy looking.
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>>153143375
>Our guy was going through a lot.
Yeah, I mean, don't people frequently attribute the entire decade-long Kitsune & Ishida Show to it just being easier for him to deal with during all this shit? The comic becomes notably more episodic.
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>>153140361
I agree. Usagi can be wonderful in color but the results we've seen so far leave much to be desired.
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>>153139388
I swear this color version is a goldmine of reaction images.
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>>153139408
I find these two versions fascinating, especially the final pages. The colored version is framed in a way that reflects Usagi and Tomoe barely even knowing each other, while the Black and White version feels a lot more intimate and friendly.
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I like to imagine there's a whole gang of bored old men who make vague, smug threats at any ronin they see. You know they're hard up for entertainment in Feudal Japan.
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The Ugly Bastard reveal could have been a double-fakeout. Like you're meant to believe Tomoe is destined for Lord Ito, but ACKSHULLY what Lord Ito himself meant was that Tomoe should be wed to one of his younger samurai.
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>Why Tomoe doesn't scream Usagi about marrying her and having tons of samurai-sexo aimed to procreation?
That was the tea ceremony we just witnessed.
>Noriyuki #31 will be happy and will appoint Usagi ultra general of his army in less of two weeks.
Absolutely. It's Usagi himself that has refused the offer, on more than one occasion.
>Jotaro could be enlisted in Noriyuki samurai entourage. They can push Chizu against the jonin traitor and transform the Neko Ninja Clan as an ally. probably in Senso has been explained too.
So that's interesting you mention those two possibilities, and Senso.....
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So there's no confirmation that Lady Etsuko is dead, right? It's only Lord Mataichi. Kid Panda is not an orphan after all, his mom just isn't a part of daily court deliberations any more.
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I wonder when the concept of an evil sister for Tomoe came up in stans mind as shes absent in the older color draft.
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>>153143632
Of course it looks familiar, that's Noriyuki's dwarf peasant servant, Koro.
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>>153139833
>which is probably why the kid at the end hasn't fallen under the control of the sumi set.
I thought the line he settled on was that it worked with the darkness within the heart. An innocent child should be able to use it safely. Hope he's raised with good moral fortitude
But he'll probably run out of kids blood before he's a teenager so he'll be safe
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>>153143642
He created it for Mother of Mountains, p. sure. The color version was originally effectively part of a sequence of stories taking place during Usagi's first stay with the Geishus; it's not totally clear why he held the rest back for so long, but the story with Usagi telling Noriyuki about how he got lost in the Tanged Skein is part of the same sequence, as I'm sure you can see if you go back and look.
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>>153143725
>Hope he's raised with good moral fortitude
In Feudal Japan? No way!
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>>153139534
There's a couple of differences between the Fantagraphics Color Special version and the reprint in Dark Horse. For one, every reference to Goyemon as a painter is replaced with artist. And there is an explicit connection between his magical sumi-e set and the cursed one Sasuke and his ronin sidekick helped to quell.
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>>153139432
What's fun about this is how this is an actual painting IRL.
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>>153141366
Samurai is both a class and an occupation. If you want to be extremely pendantic, the occupation is samurai (the kanji is 侍) and the class is bushi (武士) though of course the terms are used interchangeably. So you're right, someone like Lady Maple is from the bushi or samurai class but her occupation is not a samurai. Tomoe can be described as both samurai the class and samurai the profession.
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>>153139496
It's so weird how this story has both Noriyuki's dog and an actual Dog guy at the same time. Like it's literally a Goofy/Pluto situation here.
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Wait, seriously? That's insane, I wonder how much of this story got retconned/altered in the BW version.
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>>153139534
This is another painting that exists IRL.
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Enma just posted the changes:
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>>153139623
I do think the earlier colors have a specific charm to them, I agree. It really leans into the surrealist cartoon aesthetic, and I feel that's a much better approach than the more "realistic" modern colors we saw in the previous storytime.
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>>153144254
Ha, anon and I both saw each other's posts and then deleted them almost at the same time to save post count space in this thread.
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>>153144314
I saw them, none of you saved face.
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>>153143869
Who is the red guy, why is he red and why is he holding a big lego square piece?
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>>153142216
Neko ninjas don't know the Inverse Ninja Law.
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Pandas an idiot for not mentioning this to her. But Usagi the bigger idiot for not expecting the whole world to keep moving while he’s wandering,
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>>153134502
I love Dune almost as much as Usagi. Reflecting on Feudal Japan, it's interesting how much overlap there is between the shogunate and the imperium in Dune. Both are held in deliberate cultural stasis, both exist in a delicate balance-of-power between the Big Dawg and the lesser clans almost to a perfect 51:49 ratio, both have warrior cultures that have semi-purposefully been nerfed to pagentry and play-fighting, both are hostage to the most retarded economic policy imaginable (the rice must flow). If I hadn't known that Frank Herbert was inspired by the wars of Czarist Russia against the Caucuses I would have absolutely believed he was talking about Feudal Japan.
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>>153142885
Stay strong anon. For her.
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Hey, I just fag for Cartoon Kitsune, where she goes from worst girl(behind even Noriko) to a sold contender for best.
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see, if she had a comeuppance like this more often, I don't think people would hate Kitsune half as much as they do.
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>>153140071
You mean KUNAI WITH CHAIN.
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Welcome back to the death rattle tally! Here are the new scream found in today's storytime:
>Egaah!: 1
>Umph!: 1
>Glook!: 1
See attachment for total cry so far. As always, if you have any questions about the count, feel free to ask.
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Usagi you retard
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>>153140549
Only Stan can make an entire educational chapter about tea ceremonies, and not only make it interesting but deeply character driven as well. Like, this whole thing feels so melancholic, like Usagi knows he's going to regret leaving her again.
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>>153143050
Yeah from his point of view he's doing the kindest thing he can for her. He even has the decency to feel bad about it where most samurai dads in his shoes would just feel annoyed and embarrassed. He had no way of knowing she was going to become a major supporting character and get a bunch of protagonist exemptions from the normal rules of life.
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I don't think that you can really pin that on her, that guy just got feudal japan'd. They didn't really need to kill him, they just did it anyway because they're gangster thugs. Kistune's theft kicked it off, but it's the gangsters who decided "let's kill the guy who pointed us in the right direction because we can't have a fence go singing to the cops like fences obviously do all the time!"
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>>153147291
I agree with Anon, I think this is a rare case where you can't pin it on Worst Girl, because she didn't know in advance that Boss Sanno was unusually crazy and brutal. She only found out about that after the fence told her.
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>>153142931
Not him but green
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>>153147691
It's the street performer gang that Usagi, Jotaro, Katsuichi and Shunji fought. She backflipped away from Shunji and the others beat her dad and friends to death. Katsuichi did an extremely cool throwing-knife catch-and-return and overshadowed the others, even Jotaro who killed a huge guy with nothing but a bokken.
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>>153139977
Late for the party but...
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Beautiful send off. A great parting of friends but one that also damns then to just being that. Tomoe fate is sealed and Usagi walked out on what could’ve been the next true love of his life.
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