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April 13, 2016 the very first issue of The Unbelievable Gwenpool released. Let's take a look back at Unbelievable Gwenpool #1 and see if it holds up.
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Gonna be like 5 minutes of posting variant covers.
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And now on to the actual comic.
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Enter Gurihiru.
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I think this is the best Modok has ever looked.
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RIP Cecil.
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And that's the end of The Unbelievable Gwenpool #1. Have you ever read it before? Were you in the original storytime thread 10 years ago?
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>>153215449 >>153215433
She’s so cute
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>>153215549
This is how I prefer Gwen 'talking' to her audience, in that she really doesn't: she just narrates to herself in her head and assumes (hopes) someone is reading her thought boxes.
>>153215618
Ah, the early days when Gwen was at her most reckless/impulsive. Blindly firing/killing Cecil's relatives with civilians in the splash zone, and then expecting unanimous praise as 'the hero'
>>153215634
Boy meets girl. It's always kind of awkward knowing Gwen/Cecil's first meeting is her murdering his hillbilly crime family but then he doesn't seem too broken up over it. Makes a great early straight-man and tard-wrangler (as much as anyone can tard-wrangle Gwen)
Also a trend here you'd see later with Vincent in Marvel civvies not having nearly as much fun with the Marvel life-style as Gwen thinks it is.
>>153215751
>Your Truman show thing
Kek, I actually had only seen the Truman Show between now and when I first read this.
>>153215804
Gwen/Ronnie's interactions are great. Early on she feels like the one looking out for Gwen the most, chastising her for screwing up jobs/her suit while Gwen's still treating it all as a game.
>Big enabler, Ronnie
Also kek
>>153216051
That bottom right panel has always stuck with me as an exemplary example of how batshit Gwen was early on. That gleeful, care-free grin on her face as she pushes a man (immoral as he may have been) to his death is kind of disturbing and I see why Teddy was so worried.
>>153216141
This is a great moment. Immediately sells one of the best parts of the comic in shattering Gwen's lofty expectations of what her super-hero life would be like. Especially considering how devil-may-care and cocky she was throughout her first issue, breaking Gwen's ego by killing her only friend (whom she treated more like an accessory, a sidekick to make her cooler) is equally tragic and a little karmic.
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>>153216164
Thanks for the story-time, OP.
I love Unbelievable and it was fun to re-read first issue again, it's a very strong book and the first issue does well in setting up the pieces of the story. It establishes Gwen as a lovable but self-indulgent protagonist, high on her own hype and showcases her at her most selfish/foolhardy to break her down and rebuild later. Some of her lines are a bit manic but I get a sense she's just excited and trying very hard to be 'cool' for her comic's sake. It sets up the running theme of the story of her expectations being wildly different from the reality: how people see a random, pantless girl shooting up a bank as a psycho and not a hero, how people in 616 aren't as enamored with living in it as Gwen is, and especially her perceptions about how important and untouchable she is when she's really no more significant than your average mook. The ending is sad but also a great hook for showing this adventure isn't going to go the way Gwen thinks it will, and serves in shattering her illusions of invincibility so she can actually grown/learn.
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>>153215433
>a character based on Heather Antos
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>>153218454
>I wish, what was it like?
See for yourself.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/81773003/#81773003
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So in the last 10 years, Marvel could only make some sell Spider-Boy and Gwenpool...
two legacy heros...
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>>153219181
Gwen was born in 1996 btw
If she hadn't stopped aging she'd be a 30 year old hag this year
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>>153219367
Speaking of Spider-Boy, it's funny how after he got some attention Marvel did another variant initiative like the Gwen Stacy one that Gwenpool came from. Instead of "What if Gwen Stacy was X hero" it was "what if X hero had a sidekick." Then they made those characters real and nobody cared, except for Maystorm and she didn't even join the regular universe, she joined Peach Momoko's Ultimate X-Men.
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>>153220716
A team of D-Listers going up against someone way out of their weight class feels like Task Force X / Suicide Squad / Superior Foes of Spider-man, but if you mean like literal normal ass Average Joes I don't know if I can think of one
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>>153223938
turns out just because death is cheap in comics doesn't mean you can actually bring everyone back
RIP Gwenpool
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Does Gwen ever have night-terrors about this moment or does she sleep like a baby
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>>153224648
The guy was a mercenary working directly under M.O.D.O.K, he'd just slaughtered a ship full of aliens before Gwen pushed him in. Sure not everyone in the organization was bad (Sarah, Tony, Batroc to a degree) but you live by the sword you die by the woman-child pushing you into a reactor core
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>>153216164
>Were you in the original storytime thread 10 years ago?
I'm almost 100% sure the original storytime threads are where a certain schizo came from because he was pissed Gwenpool wasn't Gwen Stacy. The person had the same Gwen obsession, the same ESL posting style and the same shtick of shitting up threads, arguing with himself and creating bait threads that he could argue with himself in because he thought it would annoy /co/ and get them to hate the book and character.
Anyway, I think it's a great series with the only real negative being that it was forced to include a lot of stupid ANAD shit like Jane Thor or having Gwen obsessed with Miles and Kamala since that's the shit Marvel was pushing at the time. If you don't do it maybe I'll continue tomorrow as a daily doing an issue a day or something. It's a shame that out of the various bigger name 2000s webcomic creators Marvel brought in during the 2010s the only one they actually stuck with was North when he was the one that sucked.
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>>153225523
>include a lot of stupid ANAD shit like Jane Thor
All comics have to deal with what is happening currently and I think Unbelievable did a good job of that. Gwen obviously wasn't big on Thor because she struggled to even remember Jane's name, she only remembered Natalie Portman played her in the MCU. And playing with what was happening currently also led to the nice arc where she has to deal with good guy Dr. Doom at the end of the series.
>or having Gwen obsessed with Miles and Kamala
This I actually have no problem with. Gwen was basically the target demographic for these characters. Ultimate Spider-Man was at it's peak when Gwen would have been growing up, so she would have been reading when Miles was introduced. Same with Kamala, Gwen would have been a high school girl when Ms. Marvel #1 released, and Kamala is still liked by a lot of people, even on /co/, despite Marvel fucking Kamala more than they ever did Gwen.
Plus Gwen was introduced in the same era as them, and is the same age. Those are here peers and the characters she will be interacting with the most, so it made sense to have her meet and befriend them ahead of other characters.
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>>153225738
I also don't mind the ANAD stuff in Gwenpool. It is definitely a product of its era but acting as a sort of time-capsule of Mid-To-Late 10's Marvel is novel. It would make sense if Gwen entered the comic-books at around these times, these are the ones she'd likely interact with. But beyond that there is stuff like the Good Doom arc that really sells it because Gwen calls it out for what it is: an 'obviously temporary continuity blip' but also establishes that change is a constant in comics.
EVERY single era of comic books are going to have their FOTM's, their gimmick runs, their bizarre experiments that may or may not age well, and the book acknowledges that. It's why Gwenpool still feels like it's aged as well as it has despite featuring dated elements like Jane Thor or Good Doom.
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>>153224648
I think it'd be neat if this guy Gwen threw into the fire of her first issue were to return seeking revenge. Like a bit of karma for Gwen when she was at her most murder-hobo and making her reflect on how callously she acted way back. Maybe even give the Teuthidans giving him a bunch of upgrades since he died on their ship as a way of getting their revenge on her as well, using a couple of her earliest enemies.
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>>153227435
I want to protect that smile
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I'd assumed Gwen's interest in comic-books were just something she picked up on as a kid and grew up with, given no one else in her family is into them, but the idea she picked it up from an uncle/relative is a neat idea. An uncle who maybe didn't have any kids of his own and wanted to pass down all his vintage old comics to his only niece would be cool, and I imagine Gwen could make a few 'Uncle Ben' bits about a that.
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>>153233905
>See Spider-Gwen
>Heart sinks
>"Spider-gwen has a pink bomber jacket and white/pink body suit with two swords on her back"
>Leaker legitate mixed up Spider-Gwen for Gwenpool
>Pic-related
I want to believe
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>>153234087
>Leaker legitate mixed up Spider-Gwen for Gwenpool
Many such cases
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>>153233905
Going to take a random euro at his word for curiosity's take
>Captain America, Ghost Rider, Gwenpool, She-Hulk
Tokon does their rosters in teams of 4 right, like how you have the Spider-Team, the X-team, etc.
Could this be the Cap's Kooky Quartet team?
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>>153216164
Jesus it's been 10 years already? Where did the time go?
>Were you in the original storytime thread 10 years ago?
Those threads were how I got introduced to her actually. Still love her after all this time.
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I kind of want to storytime but with captcha and posting being so slow right now it'd be a pain in the ass. I guess I'll see if things are fixed and this thread is still around tomorrow but I'm not waiting like 2 minutes to try and post things.
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>>153235420
If you're feeling up to it more story-times would be very cool
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>>153235015
Assuming the leak is real (which remember it may well not be) I assume She-Hulk is definitely on Cap's 'Avenger' team then with a big A-symbol
Unless they're actually squeezing in A-Force to this, which Gwen may be on that team
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>>153233905
I like the idea of Tokon Gwen wearing a bomber-jacket on top of her outfit. She wears them alot in her casual wear, the big heavy jackets she likes to pair with her shorts
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As someone who didn't keep up with her, did they ever use the Out of Universe gimmick to be even mildly critical? Calling stuff out as pushed or smothered, trite, even just a weird writing move? I feel like her super power of Comic Fan needs at least SOME haterism for the increasingly new, but then again she could just be a consoomer, certainly doesn't have to go full Eltingville