>shitty image taken from pinterest or some similar slop trough
>one line retarded question with no relevance to anything
>because not only does not everyone do that
>nobody's making anybody do anything
>meaning you can decorate your house any way you want and nobody can stop you

>>2966226
>meaning you can decorate your house any way you want and nobody can stop you
>he doesn't know about hoas

>>2966230
so don't live in one. problem solved.

All downstream of turning housing from shelter into speculation. Everyone wants to flip their house for more than they paid, everyone want to profit off some sucker, so ease of reselling is paramount.
My boomer boss was bragging about his equity in his two homes and how his tenants paid off his mortgage etc.

>>2965962
I guess this is the home design/decor thread. How the fuck do I design my apartment? It’s not a studio it has walls a bedroom a separate kitchen but it’s 400 square feet. It used to be a hotel once upon a time someone bought the building and converted the units. I have a lot of free range for upgrading, can paint walls etc it just has to look good.
Do I just go with a white and get brown walnut furniture? It has white tile. I was contemplating getting that fake snap in place wood flooring for everything except the bathroom and kitchen. I’m not trying to do anything over the top just make this place feel like my home
What wood color for the floors?


If I can get this done, the paint and floors to match it I could more easily get furniture that looks good. It’s currently got the landlord special with this nasty blue paint on every wall. I’m thinking white because if I don’t like it then that’s easy enough to decide on a new color and paint over

>>2965962
soulless

>>2965962
i like it everything looks well proportioned i don't hate grey it pleases my autism
idk why people hate minimalism not that this one is minimalist a persian busy decor would be nuts

>>2965962
nothing, as your pic show everything went right. now compare this to your average grandma house and tell me where you want to live?

>>2965962
DUDE PILLOWS LMAO

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>>2967079
more pillow!

>>2965962
>oh noes styles and tastes change!
>wheres my onion belt?

>>2966230
hoas cannot tell you how to do anything inside your home.

>>2969035

Based Dort constructor

From an Australian perspective
>shit building standards
>no warranty on houses
>tradies being the dodgiest people on this green earth
>race to the bottom
>housing crisis means anything will fly
>uninspired architecture

from an interior design perspective
>people not knowing shit about decorating
>not just choosing one style and sticking to it

my house was built in the 70s and has no structural issues whatsoever. double brick, decent windows, just needs insulation. no asbestos at all.
interior was redesigned by an overly weathly engineer so it has blackbutt flooring, nice white walls, black marble countertops.
my before is sticking to a Scandinavian theme but not just all IKEA, solid woods, white colours and multiple sources of lighting. in fact I would say most people don't understand how to light a house well and that makes a huge difference

so in short
>shitty build quality
>clueless home owners who can't even follow a Pinterest image

>>2965962
Capitalism.

>>2965962
nothing that looks chill as fuck

>>2965962
If we’re talking about interiors then consumers decided they would rather spend $3,000 on a matching living room set than hand select a $2500 couch and a $500 coffee table and and a $250 end table and a $1,000 media cabinet and 3 $400 bookshelves and 2 $400 floor lamps plus a $200 table lamp.
as a result furniture companies optimized for pumping out said living room sets that were inoffensive to as many people as possible for as little money as possible.

>>2966274
This, plus "renter mentality." If you're not going to live there more than 10 years, who cares if the house falls in after 20? Why spend a penny on maintenance or upgrades unless you have to?

In terms of interior design, I blame HGTV convincing everyone that THEY, TOO can make a fortune by "modernizing" perfectly good housing. Flippers want stuff to sell fast and they want it done as cheaply as possible. This leads to cheap furnishings that lack any kind of personality.

On a more fundmental level, it's also due to changes in material/labor cost ratios. Historically, skilled labor was relatively cheap and abundant, but materials were typically quite expensive. As a result, people tended to get as much mileage out of materials as they could, even if it was more labor intensive. For example, nice millwork and mouldings in a house require a lot of labor to make and install, but the materials aren't anything complicated. Today the opposite it true- labor is much more expensive than materials in most cases. This means that even "luxury" construction is often done poorly and lacks ornamentation that was once commonplace.

>>2969213
This has been the style for 20 years now, retard

Reliance on increasingly narrow building materials which though initially very cost effective, then became scarce and expensive.
Builders who's skill sets became too narrow, unable to build with alternative materials.

Market factors strongly leaning to fast constitution time regardless of material cost. A kind of sunk cost into cheap builds, credit crunch for builders, owners forced to sub-prime build with tissue paper materials.

I'm just constantly butting heads with owners who want things done fast regardless of the long term valuation of their builds, MBs who don't want to fool around sourcing materials. Even trying to get a load bearing brick wall built.
>why does it need to be load bearing
>why can't we dry wall the whole building
>why can't we clad a 2×4 wooden wall
>why not build the floor from MDF
>why not tar paper the roof

Because those materials are now poor value. There's too much demand for the cheapest materials, so they're no longer a sound investment. The cost of repairing them in ten years is greater than the cost of building them. Ffs

And this extends to plan build design. Built it facing the wrong way, can't be bothered altering the plan to orient the porch/deck sensibly, can't be bothered moving windows so they actually face something, can't be bothered facing the roof pitch against prevailing wind. Gutters always overflowing, no drainage at ground level, turn the site into a bog, cheap stumps and floor rot.

No interest in steel tensile, no interest in tandem foundation, no interest in internal load bearing walls or steel frame, no interest in floating walls.
Too hard, just buy the same plan as everyone else in the suburb.

And then we have issues where so many cardboard buildings are built next to each other that strong wind, heavy rain, fire actually destroys buildings that are up to code. Massive issues with suburban storm water, fire clearance inadequate. Hail destroys roof, cement slabs crack and walls just pull up at the corners. Years of bog, plaster, mold, roof leaks.

The houses of yore were often not built as single structures, they weren't ranches. They were built so the foundations and drainage supported each other in a unified building overlay.

Why can't we go back to 2-4 row houses with two cement walls, steel girders, double facing blocks, twice as much frontage, and false walls for fire fighting?
You just cut doorways between properties, cinder block them up so the structure could be 2, or 4 residential dwellings?

Why do they insist on building pylon on steep slopes, so the house on the top falling down will domino every house below it. Condo-lanche. Same with beach front dwellings.
Yes it's very expensive to ingratiate steel foundations on a slope, but that's why terrace houses were always for millionaires. They were worth integrating

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>>2965962
Grey minimalism with THIS plastic-ass floor. Fucking unimaginative fuckers theses days. Complete nonces.

>>2965962
they were homes then, now they're investments and showrooms for social media

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I hate millennial grey, the stupid coffee tables that are so far away and difficult to move that I have to risk slipping a disc just trying to grab my cup and I hate the need to overfurnish a room.
Maybe I'm a boomer at heart but I like warm woody tones, furniture with legs, tables I can bring closer easily and I like my rooms with the minimal viable clutter in them.

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>>2965962
Minimalism. Minimalism is an assault on all that is beautiful and is specifically constructed to demoralize. It's gotten so pervasive that even the ultra rich who can afford beauty or even just opulence have fallen for it, modern mansions exist which are just concrete and glass cubes with stark, nearly colorless interiors.

>>2969324
Ah yes, communism is known for the beautiful buildings and their elegant interiors.

>>2970802
>elegant interiors
Yes actually

>>2970802
A leashed and muzzled capitalism built the shitty suburban post-war expansion, but those houses are still in decent shape because they were building them to be homes.

What we have now is feral capitalism with nobody punishing it for its evils and excesses.

"Communism" is not the only alternative to "let the capitalists have all the money and power they want with no restraints" that we have right now.

>>2970791
>I hate flipper grey
FTFY. Most Millennials can't afford a house.

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>>2965962
FUCK
>>2966226
FUCK YOU

>>2970884
>"Communism" is not the only alternative to "let the capitalists have all the money and power they want with no restraints" that we have right now.
All roads lead to the same destination, retard. There will ALWAYS be the haves and the have nots, the keptocrats, plutocrats, and autocrats and the cattle. ALWAYS

>>2965962
>What went wrong with modern homes?
Securitized and financialized. A lot of people sunk their entire life's earnings into a home so it acts like a retirement account for them.

>>2970460
>If you're not going to live there more than 10 years, who cares if the house falls in after 20?
I can't help but think that people are going to be sitting on worthless houses in the next few decades. I wonder if houses can depreciate like Japanese homes.

>>2970899
>Full retard absolutist
We had a much better position right after WWII where we taxed the rich properly, average people had it much better, and there was less abject poverty. The economy was also far more stable because the people had spending power, not a bunch of sociopathic hoarders trading billions between each other to get a higher score.

>>2970924
There were almost zero turd worlders in the country at that time and our greatest ally didn't exist yet. All roads lead to the same place dumb commie.

>>2970938
Nice of you to admit you're a brainwashed moron.

grey and white

My apartment has the same gray LVP floors as all the photos in this thread. I haven't furnished my living room yet. Any tips?
Right now I'm pretty much living that "men will unironically live like this" meme. Just a bed, desk, and office chair.

>>2970938
>There were almost zero turd worlders in the country at that time
You're a lying fuck. A third of the population was Italian

>and our greatest ally didn't exist yet
OK you have me convinced. Carry on

>>2971240
Get a nice rug so there's less of it to look at.

>>2971240
Get more office chairs so there's less of it to look at.

>>2969214
In the USA, you can be arrested for being naked in your living room.

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>>2970802
Have you seen the moscow subway?

>>2970885
"Millennial homeownership milestone: Over 50% of millennials now own homes, but they reached this milestone later than previous generations."
https://www.fool.com/money/research/millennial-homebuying/

>>2972530
GLORIOUS COMRADE GLORIOUS XDDDDDDDDD RESPECT THE SHITNIKS

>>2970802
Why jump to the other extreme?
Anon is right, capitalism did ruin interior design, fashion etc etc
It's not about making the best product, it's about making the best profit margin and if that means producing cheap one-size-fits-all garbage and convincing the consumer it's good then by jolly let's go

>>2972530
surprisingly beautiful. Now show the buildings

>>2972570
Because he thinks he's a capitalist, and not just a prole. Which is a common mistake the capitalists use to gain power.

>>2972530
fuark

>>2972603
And also being convinced that they are locked up in some culture war, so they don't have to become conscious of the class struggle. I'm far from a communist, but it's plain as day that ALL of us are being fucked left right and center by people richer than god and it's the most annoying thing about this historic moment we're living in, how people support and vote for people whoa re clearly acting against their interests in order to stick it to the lefties

>>2972663
It's what happens when a country deliberately under-funds education and has billionaire funded propaganda news networks. The oligarchy spreads.

>>2972846
Also I feel the internet has absolutely wrecked our ability to hold nuanced opinions. I personally am very left wing on some topics but right leaning on others and even then I can sometimes at least understand why the people I disagree with might hold certain opinions. But so many people give off the impression that they think you have to commit full on to one of the extremes and everyone who isn't on your team is the enemy. This shit is going to get us a lot of irresponsible people elected in the 2030s, I'm not looking forward tot it

>>2972846
The problem with education is not the funding.
Ironically a very capitalistic way of thinking of you.

>>2973013
>>2973013
>The problem with education is not the funding.
Have you ever asked a teacher?

>>2973046
School funding has been growing a lot, even adjusted for inflation. This implies the lack of quality you are seeing is not due to lack of money.

The issues I hear teachers complain about it are different.
Destroyed attention span.(caused by phones/tablets)
Lack of teachers meaning classes get bigger and you can't give each child enough attention.(This does not imply you need more money but rather a refocusing on what you spend your increasing budget on)
Kids who act up in class and ruin it for the rest
Administrative pressure, the need to document and measure everything

>>2973054
>This implies
Dude you fail at math.

>>2973056
dude just pump more money into it

>>2973054
>School funding has been growing a lot, even adjusted for inflation.
Pretend that schools need 100m but they are only receiving 60m. They are at 60% of the funding level necessary to offer world class education. Pretend that inflation is at 5%. Education gets double that as an increase, 10%. So now education is at 66m but they need 105m. In other words, education is only receiving 63% of the funding they need.

And I very much get the impression that school boards know they'll never get adequate funding, that they aren't making friends if they keep repeating it, so they are concentrating on things they might hope to improve.

>>2973062
Only Luxembourg, Norway, Austria and South Korea spend more money per student.
I can guarantee you there are better ways to get better results than just throwing money at it.

>>2973063
>spend more money per student
Does that include charter schools and private schools?

>>2973064
No, just public schools.

>>2973054
This biggest problem is the No Child Left Behind system still in place from Bush Jr.

It has completely reoriented schools to focusing on passing Standardized Tests instead of actually learning. Especially because it's built around penalism instead of as a means of testing what schools need more aid.

>>2973064
Charter school systems only serve to dilute public funds and make public schools worse. Same with Private school vouchers that almost entirely go towards making such schools free for rich people who can already afford to send their kids there.

>>2973054
>>2973062
>>2973063
Loom up what Mississippi has done to fix their public schools (yes, Mississippi.) Their reading and test scores were almost dead last in the nation until they got rid of all the DEI LGBTQ bullshit and retrained their teachers on how to actually teach students to read, instead of just memorizing shit. They're now ranked 9th after just ten years of overhauling the program IIRC and still aren't spending anywhere near what liberal sitholes like Illinois or California spend per student. Increasing budgets for schools just means fatter pensions for teacher's unions regardless of whether or not student outcomes are improving.

>>2973095
>DEI LGBTQ
Don't lie. That had nothing to do with it.

>>2973095
>>2973097
In that case, I'd say it concerns any parts of the curriculum that prioritizes self-esteem at the expense of proper results.
>Yes, Billy, learning is hard
>No, Billy, you ain't special
>Now shut up and learn how to read.

>>2974010
In other words, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>2973095
Ah yes, they went from near last to 10th place in fourth grade reading. They also hold back third graders who can't read until they reach a fourth grade level. I'm so glad they manipulated the statistics by force so that little 4th grader Deshawn(18yr old) can read the very hungry caterpillar.

>>2974065
>Schools fund mainly by property taxes
>Because of Redlining majority black schools are typically in property tax dead zones

>>2965962
I think this post is meant to be about the aesthetics of the room. But the real issue IMHO, is that when energy became cheap in the early to mid 20th Century housing and buildings were designed and standardized with cheap energy in mind.

So houses/building often cartoonishly large windows, they are more standardized. In the past homes/buildings were made of different ceiling heights, building materials depending on the climate of their given region to give the maximum passive heating, cooling and air circulation possible.

https://x.com/wrathofgnon/status/1013941701293928449

"Before the International Style (modernism) in architecture, our ancestors knew how to adapt the room heights according to the climate, achieving maximum effect (comfort) for the least effort (energy). Today we trust in the grid and so build 8-9 ft rooms from Bermuda to Reykjavik."

>>2965962
The pillows have taken over, and the humans have been exterminated.

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lotta faggots in here arguing about schools, completely missing the point that public schooling is an abomination that shouldn't exist and everyone involved in it should be swinging from a lamppost. Here's a brief history lesson,
>prussia creates system to churn out soldiers and bureaucrats
>dipshit dewey sees this and gets a raging hardon, thinks this is the perfect way to get the government between the parent and the child
>carnegie and the like see an opening and funnel millions in support to create 'a nation of workers, not thinkers'
It was an absolute abortion of an idea that managed to be corrupted into something even shittier almost immediately. A little more than a century on and the discussion is on muh heckin teacherinos not gettin paid enough, when the real discussion that we should be having is why they even exist at all. The system we have now is so normalized we don't even recognize it for the aberration it is, we've gone millennia without this bullshit but now it's an integral part of life despite literacy rates not improving since it was implemented. Do you dipshits even think? 13yrs of mandatory education and what are you qualified for? Nothing. I got a BS and there isn't a job I've had that I couldn't have started at 16. To put a nice bow on it, OPs pic looks like something a public schooling prodigy would design, soulless but popular, because that's all they really learned.

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>>2975820

>>2975820
>System constantly being broken by conservatives so its massively hobbled and unable to function well
>So they can later claim the public good was never functional and privatize it

>>2972847
>I feel the internet has absolutely wrecked our ability to hold nuanced opinions.
And all because of fucking epstien, it boggles the mind

>>2973095
>DEI LGBTQ
what epstein media does to a mf

>>2975840
>>2975842
an image calling me a retard with no argument and a non sequitur about conservatives and private schools.
Public schooling on full display here boys.

>>2975886
It's because you've sucked up the propaganda slop and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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>>2965962
Just wait for the next fad. Are you still clinging to your dated oak cabinets?

>>2975899
lol, I'm pretty good at spotting propaganda, sat through 13yrs of it you know. Couldnt have come from direct experience, critical thinking and knowledge of history. No, I was propagandized into holding views no political party supports

>>2975965
You mean destroying the public school system (Like what Betsy DeVos did in Michigan) to replace it with homeschooling and private schools? That's absolutely a GOP position.

>>2975940
yup, deep red/brown cabinets with a lighter granite top and cheap large high gloss tiles for the backsplash.
granite is a superior counter top material,
heat, porosity, mohs hardness, its a champ.

>>2975848
>>2975850
What low IQ conspiracy are you spewing now?

>>2976024
https://www.ms.now/opinion/jeffrey-epstein-4chan-chris-poole

>>2965962
That molding is wayyyy too big for 8' ceilings

>>2966274
Bragging about your wealth is cringy af
Give advice, don't gloat

>>2966488
I would go with an off white

>>2969816
I haven't owned a single couch that didn't bottom TF out after less than a year since becoming an adult

>>2970801
Part of that is cost driven tho
Wayyyy cheaper to go brutalist than Victorian

>>2972530
The wrapped columns are unbelievable

The one 5000k light is offensive af
Hope whoever did that got sent to the gulag

>>2975940
I hate white cabinets so fucking much unless they're incredibly intricate

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>>2977248
Just slapped some green on mine. Now just need to do something about these walls

>>2977211
/new/ existed before /pol/ did and was just as racist.
People don't know anything these days.

>>2965962
I love it

>>2977457
If you're not that intent on getting around to it, even a peel-and-stick faux tile backsplash would be an improvement
After you give your drywall a sponge bath of course

my neighbor just put his ugly eyesore millenial grey trailer house up for sale for such a delusional price
it makes me so mad i almost made a new thread for it
i wish i could post pictures but i dont wanna dox myself

>>2977247
I think there's a second light on a chandelier further back, it's spreading

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>>2975820
This anon fucks.

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>>2975899
>defends 12 years of mandatory government indoctrination
pic related: you

>>2972530
Holy shit. Everything I've ever been told about Russia is a lie.

>>2977795
Versus what, exactly? The right-wing bullshit indoctrination and abusive undereducation of most modern homeschooling?

>>2977794
No, dear samefag, that anon has a license plate made out of cardboard, and when he gets pulled over for it he will start screaming
>I do not consent! Am I being detained!?
We all know what's up with him (You).

>>2977883
Don't forget the bit about how he's "traveling, not driving."

>>2977858
Noooo you can only indoctrinate them into globohomo slop!

>>2977883
>>2977886
Inb4

>It seems Reddit is missing a Redditor!

>>2977887
Shit you made up versus real-world fascist bullshit?

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>>2977888
Spotted the SovCit.

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>>2977858
>direction-brained slavemind can't even conceptualize freedom

>>2977894
Spotted the useful idiot

>>2965962
Millennials happened.
They are like a plague sent from God to ruin everything they touch.

>>2977947
>>2977948
>Full retards who think giving the country to fascists is "freedom"

>>2977950
Boomers is what you meant there, dumbass.

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>>2977965
>he's emotionally invested in invert theatre
Slavemind.

>>2977967
Full retard making shit up.

>>2972663
Reddit NPCs have been repeat this meme about rightoids "voting against their own interests" like a mantra for 20 years but that just sounds like a severe indictment against the left to me.
If supporting the left is obviously the correct choice and the left still manages to fumble this hard what does that say about the left?
When are you going to take some accountability and go back to the drawing board and question the parts of your message that people clearly do not like?
If you are so distasteful that you manage to drive right-wingers into the arms of their enemies what does that say about you?
This is the part where you reply and tell me it's not your fault because they are all intrinsically morally deficient or intellectually inferior somehow (which would fundamentally be a repudiation of your ideology but who's counting) and then you embrace killer clown nihilism and start posting about how billions must die so that redditism can be fully implemented.

>>2977977
>"voting against their own interests"
Because the right is really good at riling them up about stupid shit while making them ignore the real effects of their actual policy.

>the left still manages to fumble this hard what does that say about the left?
That most of the Democratic party's elderly center-right establishment that controls the party* still thinks it's the 90s and that they don't need to actually do anything that takes effort or risk.

The modern GOP is beholden to billionaires, and everything they do serves them. And everything else they're doing (attacking immigrants, trans people, and so on) is about creating distractions away from how hard they're fucking their own voters by making them mad about culture war issues.

*Pelosi, Schumer, and so on

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>>2977970
>i-its real to me!
Pathetic.

Does this look like a woman to you?:
>>2977967
Does pic look like a woman to you?

>>2977894
No, I'm actually making fun of the sovereign citizens. That seems to be one of their normal responses when they get called out here. I'm agreeing with the two guys I'm responding to. Good argument fuel though I guess.

>>2977981
Transvestigators are always wrong, it's pretty funny, really.

>>2977982
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

>>2977977
>the left
sorry, this shit is too US-brained for me. Your Democrat and Republican party are basically the same shit with a different coat of paint.
My point stands that unless you're rich and powerful, most right wing politics won't make your life better.
The fact that parties and politicians are shit at implementing policies doesn't change that

>>2977987
Sorry ;-)

>>2971240
Watch her content
https://www.youtube.com/@itstheinteriorist/videos

>>2977950
i dont think millenials are actually responsible for the grey, that is just whats available in their price range of poorfag apartments

>>2978060
Oldcucks projecting their own faults on millennials is a time honored tradition.

>>2977980
If the gop is beholden to billionaires why do more donate to dems than Rs?

>take real action
So you are going to kill your intellectual betters put ofnhatred if you ever get in power. Great

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>>2978071
they hate us cuz the aint us

>>2978072
>why do more donate to dems than Rs?
They don't.

>So you are going to kill your intellectual betters put ofnhatred if you ever get in power. Great
So now you make shit up based on nothing I said. Pretty par for the course for idiots.

>>2978078
Even funnier when they come crawling to a millennial site to begin with. They'll just have to keep our cocks in their mouths for another 50 something years.

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>>2978079
Okay bro. Just put down the gun. Upure totally cool amd correct about all of your ideas.

Everyone agrees you are so cool and smart even your highschool teacher

>>2978087
Projecting much?

>>2977980
>attacking immigrants
The left needs to swallow its pride and concede the immigration issue. Yes it is an actual problem to let MILLIONS of undocumented poor brown people into the country, which obviously is going to include a lot of criminals. The 2025 homicide rate was suddenly the lowest it's been in over a century, wonder why that happened? Extremely disingenuous of you to suggest this is a trivial culture war issue that's only a distraction. The Democrats have had to pathetically shift their narrative again and again to politically deal with this.
>there is no immigration problem!
>ok fine there is a problem but look it's heckin nuanced and complicated, and Republicans don't actually want to fix the-
>wait they are fixing it by just enforcing the law? THAT'S FASCISM
>look this was never a real problem, they're just using it to distract you from the real problems(muh billionaires)
And then like that anon said you guys can't even figure out what your message should be. All you do is whine and rage about the right, you don't offer any solutions of your own. Like how Kamala Harris couldn't give any straight answers about whether she'd deport anyone or continue building the wall.

>>2977980
>attacking trans people
Oh fuck off, just like with immigration it's your guys that turned this issue into the monster it became. It started out just pushing for more tolerance for trans people, fine whatever. It quickly morphed into this absolute fever dream of a cultural movement. All of the sudden gender is a social construct and if we say a man can't just decide to be a woman we're bigoted. And then the internet starts indoctrinating children with these fucked up ideas about their sexuality and identity. Many of us personally have witnessed nieces or nephews or cousins or siblings get convinced they need to take experimental hormone-altering drug treatments, or even get surgery, and the parents just go along with it because the progressive hivemind mandates it. And now that we're pushing back on this INSANITY it's "oh don't you rightoids have anything better to do than attack innocent trans people"

>it's those centrist boomers that are holding us back!
You are steeped in delusion. Read the room, the far left is crumbling. They are unelectable outside of a handful of pozzed states, their "values" are too opposed to American culture(hence the left's need to flood the country with brown people). The current faces of the """movement""", AOC and Mamdani, are clowns that seem intent on tanking whatever credibility their party has left. Gen Z men are moving in droves to conservatism, and they're the ones that are going to have kids. Even Europe is now getting increasingly fed up with socialism, open borders, and gender nonsense. If the Democrat party wants to survive they need to cut out the cancerous tumor that is the far left, and come back to sanity and actual firm positions on issues. Hell the only reason they're hanging on is that anti-Trump sentiment is still a viable enough strategy to keep them on life support.

>>2978133
>The left needs to swallow its pride and concede the immigration issue.
No, we don't need to concede a non-issue being used to create concentration camps and violate civil rights.

>The 2025 homicide rate was suddenly the lowest it's been in over a century, wonder why that happened?
Why lie like this?

>Oh fuck off, just like with immigration it's your guys that turned this issue into the monster it became.
No, you fuckers got angry about trans people existing and getting access to healthcare, and chose to make it the issue it is now. So that you can take their rights away and then use that wedge to take LGB and Women's rights away too.

>Thinks "the left is crumbling"
No, the far right is just in death throes and fucking everything up as hard as they can before losing power.

>>2978144
Thats anyone to the right of Mao or a French pedophile from the 19th century tho

>>2978159
>Says the guy so indoctrinated he thinks anyone left of Reagan is Mao

>>2978161
>>2978087
This timy blue blob you or no?

>>2978164
Your propaganda post doesn't match reality, and is just aggressive right-wing projection.

>>2978169
Donald trump was a Democrat all the way through like 2010

>>2978175
He's an opportunist, nothing more, when you talk about his party affiliation.

>>2978179
Okay but he still has a platform that Bill or Hillary or Obama wpuld have been proud of 99% of it. You don't even have a reason to hate him.

>>2978196
No, he really does not. That's just straight up a lie. And you knew that writing that. None of them would be following Project 2025.

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>>2978144
no way people are this stupid

>>2978203
Millions voted for Trump three times, they absolutely can be extremely stupid.

>>2978197
Oh no, all these democrats in a Republican administration and lizncheney now a Democrat. Enjoy your company

>>2978207
If you think Trump or any of his cronies are democrats, I have a bridge to sell you.

>>2978210
What timeline are you.in what the fuco am I reading over?

>>2978215
Reality. The idea that Trump is anything except a far-right autocrat who is listening exclusively to far-right policy writers like Heritage and Stephen Miller is absolute delusion.

>>2978217
Yeah damn thst trump and his *checks notes*

Progressive tax policy and basic bitch immigration and actually sensible dietary guidelines

>>2978229
>Progressive tax policy
Tax cuts for the rich and tariffs are REGRESSIVE policies that favor the rich and hurt common people.

>basic bitch immigration
You mean psychotic, illegal "attack every brown person on the street" policy combined with straight up concentration camps.

>actually sensible dietary guidelines
Are you that retarded that you think anything RFK says is sane? What''s really funny is how you guys are cheering him repeating stuff Michelle Obama said and you gave her huge shit for.

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>>2978254
What world are you in? What the hell are talking about

>>2978265
Yes, that is an accurate term for how our taxation works. Where each tier of income has its own tax rate.

The changes Donald Trump has put in place are REGRESSIVE. They reduce the income tax and capital gains rates the rich pay, while implementing import taxes that get passed onto the consumer, which hurts middle and lower class taxpayers far more.

So, in other words, you're a complete fucking idiot. Actual progressive tax policy would be reverting the Reagan tax cuts so the top brackets are paying 70-90% again, and eliminating capital gains as a separate, lower category.

>>2978322
When is this happening? How many children are having these procedures? Where are they? If only I were holding a device in my hand that I can look up the answers to these questions on! Oh wait... I am holding a device like that! Wait one...

Yeah, looked it up. Seems you're full of shit. Good day to you.

>>2978339
Yep, at best, if they're lucky, they're allowed to get puberty blockers. A well-proven class of drugs commonly also used to treat unwanted puberty effects in non-trans kids as well.

>>2970460
>On a more fundmental level, it's also due to changes in material/labor cost ratios. Historically, skilled labor was relatively cheap and abundant, but materials were typically quite expensive. As a result, people tended to get as much mileage out of materials as they could, even if it was more labor intensive. For example, nice millwork and mouldings in a house require a lot of labor to make and install, but the materials aren't anything complicated. Today the opposite it true- labor is much more expensive than materials in most cases. This means that even "luxury" construction is often done poorly and lacks ornamentation that was once commonplace.
astute

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>>2972663
The big joke is that lefties also got conned by the oligarchy into undermining their own position by becoming about intersectional nonsense rather than economic issues. It was the death of OWS and became the death of left-wing politics generally.

The reason culture war shit works to distract rightoids is because that's what lefties care about and push for continuously. You turn on the average anno 2k26 western left wing party conference and they are almost certainly talking some version of save the troons import more browns etc etc etc with at best tertiary consideration for native workers.

Internationalism has been completely co-opted by cosmopolitanism, with the result that so-called "communists" go around fighting tooth and nail to let billionaires import millions of labourers to depress wages and keep the gravy train rolling purely because the cheap labour is brown. Perhaps they think that if the working class becomes *even more* divided then somehow it will wrap around to being able to unite for its interests?

>>2978563
>When the right-wing propaganda works really well on you

>>2978589
Oh wow you're so much smarter than all these dumb rightoids want to go back to discord and erp? I got some cute pink leggings

>>2978589
You'd happily sacrifice a worker right to add a gay right. All the leftists I know care more about rainbow flag shit than vacation time & parental leave.

Grey is the most soul crushing color. I suspect it's promotion was not organic.

>>2978596
Keep proving me right.

>>2978596
>Right willingly sacrifices all rights just to "stick it to the left"

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>>2978589
There's no war if only one side turns up.
Complaining about people letting culture war distract them is only valid if you don't actively believe in the progressivist positions that caused the "culture war" reaction in the first place. If you do, you're a foot soldier for oligarchy, doing your part to prevent discussion of class issues from taking up time and space as surely as any "SJWs owned" grifter.

>>2978618
You're fighting against things that don't hurt you to support the rich getting richer and all Americans' economic power to decline while civil rights get chipped away at.

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>>2978619
Why are pretending the democrats haven't had any power in like 70 years. Truly they are our only hope. Just elect them once and their administrative skill is so great all your problems all be solved

>>2978650
They don't actively make shit worse, at least, and at this point the ones who refuse to act are likely to get primaried with people who will.

The problem is that it's a constant cycle of Republicans get elected, fuck everything up, the Democrats get elected and left 8 steps behind just trying to piece things back together while trapped in no-win scenarios like the Reagan tax cuts.

>>2978653
He still hasn't looked up what a Laffer curve is

>>2978670
>Doesn't know that we had the best prosperity during a period with high top marginal tax rates that pushed company profits into payroll and capital growth instead of executive pays and shareholder returns

>>2978673
You dontbhave the right to enslave people, sorry. The taxes we have already are fucked enough. The government should be drowned in a bathtub

>>2978698
Says the guy supporting the ones who actually want to enslave people.

The taxes we have now are why billionaires can afford to get the rules changed for themselves, and you are a useful idiot who's gleefully helping them rob us all blind.

>>2978706
You were never going to do anything to stop them either way. You're just trying to virtue signal on an anonymous image board where a child is calling you a fucjing idiot

>>2978726
>Propagandist tells you nothing you do matters so his masters win

>>2972530
Yeah if I recall, the Soviets deliberately made the metro beautiful as a monument or something. I'm not sure why they didnt decide to do it to literally anything else, but they wanted it to be something that would inspire.

Socialism and communism are shit, still, but I do wish that we had more people or governments decide that aesthetic beauty was worth the cost. Instead they cut every corner then piss any extra cash away into retarded foreign aid or idiotic studies/programs, or just waste it on purpose to not get budget cuts.

>>2978730
No I'm on your side. I'm telling you. Go do something that matters.

>>2978735
Foreign aid has always been a tiny drop in the bucket (with far greater returns in international goodwill) compared to how the right wastes taxpayer money on inefficiencies, fraud, and making themselves and their friends richer.

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>>2978765
Sir this is a Wendy's

>>2978769
Wow, a whole half-million, really living it up there.

Meanwhile Trump is trying to steal $10 billion dollars from the treasury for his "Board of Peace" and suing the DoJ for $230m because he didn't like that they treated him like the criminal he is.

>>2978769
That's all? His net worth is tiny compared to his age if that's true
Investing ~5k/year from age 25 would produce a far higher net worth than that

Doesn't he have like three houses? No way that's accurate.

>>2978780
Not having a D next to your name doesn't make you a criminal.

>>2978805
No, but constantly engaging in criminal activity does. Or have you forgotten that he's a convicted felon?

>>2978815
Ah yes the only man ever convicted of no crime that can be articulated

>>2978820
Why lie about that? It's well-articulated in the case and the jury found the evidence compelling enough to find him guilty.

And the only reason he hasn't been charged with more, especially the massive treasonous documents case, is he won the race to be reelected.

>>2978822
>treasonous
>for the president to have his own documents made by his own department for his own purposes

As opposed to biden who stacked them next to his car... when he wasn't the president and didn't have the authority to declassify documents....

But that's fine. He's just a retarded old man. Too sympatheti . The jury wpuld never convict him.


So what felony did trump get convicted of?

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>>2978831
There's a massive difference between Biden (and Pence) where they had a couple accidentally slipped in among a box of personal documents they were allowed to keep, that they reported and returned as soon as they realized they had them.

And:
Intentionally stealing dozens of boxes of documents that belong to the Office of the President, not himself personally, including a troublingly large number of classified documents up through TS-SCI that he was clearly actively "working" with, some may have been missing because of empty classification folders, he was showing to guests at Mar-A-Lago he knew weren't authorized to see them, was storing them in unsecure locations, and when asked politely to return them, stonewalled the government and even got one of his lawyers disbarred by hiding a bunch of them during an inventory the lawyer did.

So stop pretending the cases are the same, you delusional fuckhead.

>>2978831
>So what felony did trump get convicted of?
Falsifying business information, 34 counts.

>>2978831
>when he wasn't the president and didn't have the authority to declassify documents....
Trump never actually declassified anything.

>>2978835
That's not a felony

>>2978838
It is at the scale he did it.

>>2978839
No that's not the argument that was made

>>2978842
It's the indictment that cleared a grand jury, survived all motions to dismiss, were argued in court, and successfully convinced a jury that he committed those felonies.

But like he himself said, he could murder someone on the street in broad daylight and you idiots would fall over yourselves trying to find a reason to excuse it. Nothing Der Fuhrer does can be wrong, right?

>>2978844
No those aren't felonies. Even if there's a bunch. How is he convicted felon

>>2978846
>It's not a felony because I say it isn't
Delulu

>>2978849
>Anybody who dares speak the truth about der fuhrer is a socialist and enemy of the state!

>>2978852
So why is ICE mainly roughing up and killing citizens and legal residents?

>We shouldn't be in any wars
You mean like how he tried to start wars in Greenland, Venezuela, and now Iran in less than two months?

>>2978852
>America is great.
>Ruined relationships with all of our long-time friendly nations and business partners
>Massively ramped up stealth taxes on imports for no reason
>Dumped the economy into a massive recession
>Jackbooted thugs roaming the streets killing people
>Massive tax giveaways to the ultra-rich
>Going out of their way to block everything to do with actually prosecuting the people involved in Epstein's criminal conspiracy

lefty that accused people of samefagging earlier, doubles up on every post. remember kids, everything a liberal accuses you of is something they do regularly.

lets see if my ban is really over

>>2978858
>the right can't meme fact is so real they had to steal the real life fact about how every right-wing accusation is a confession