>>2975254
To make steady money, you go into a trade. Electrician, mechanic, plumber, carpenter.

If you want to make subsistence wages, sell cute little crafts to the pinterest crowd.

>>2975256
The best money is in marketing. Use your marketing skills to hype up goyim on something that doesn't exist yet, then you hire a sperg to autocad it, then send the cad drawings to some idiot who's desperately trying to pay off his cnc machine

>>2975256
trades are subsistence

>>2975276
Not where I live.

>>2975330
And what third world shithole would that be?

>>2975366
Tradies in the turd world barely make subsistence wages

>>2975407
i'm in a 3rd world country and now they make almost as much as midlevel programmers, there's literally no mechanics, plumbers, electricians, drivers because they're all too old/gone to richer countries/young don't want to do it

>>2975425
>almost as much

>>2975256
how can you expect big monies unless you're some industrial tradie like plc, cad, cnc etc

>low level doctors, engineers and lawyers are also tradies.

Unless you manage money or people you're a tradie. There's no way to magnify your money making power except getting better at moving your hands. Doctors/lawyers/engineers have a strong starting wage and break into their own businesses at journeyman level instead of master, so it looks like they make more but it's because they're managing 5 paralegals/nurses

>>2975632
who would have thought you'd see pro-worker unity on the diy board

today's SaaS meme company python programmers and developers and engineers are yesterday's foundry workers and machinists, just gayer and fatter and softer hands and anti union

>>2975891
Fuck your communist sit mothercucker I hope you starve to death with your brain dead retarded utopian dreams trying fdivide mankind into classes that don't fucking exist.

>>2975254
Landscaping or basic handyman work if you have no specific skills. If you have friends or family working in trades offer to help them pro bono just to learn a thing or two and add it to your skillset. especially if you live in a suburban or urban area, a lot of normies are NPCs who will throw money at you to weed and mow their garden or fix something that you can learn from watching a 3 minute youtube video. you have to offer very competitive prices and build up a solid customer base, but if you're successful you can hire other retards and excons to do the work for you for you

>>2975254
If you can't think of a business idea on your own which you'd like to undertake, then you're probably not really going to be passionate enough about what you'd be doing to dedicate yourself to it enough for it to be lucrative.

I've seen it happen quite a few times. People ending up running a business doing something they don't care about, or discover they actually hate doing, but are trapped into it due to how much they have sunken into getting the business up and running.

Do not rely on others to suggest what you do for this. Make yourself a list of the things that you really enjoy doing, then decide if there's anything on that list that you think you would enjoy doing for a living, under the knowledge that you would have to be doing it A LOT for the undertaking to be successful.

>>2975254
> what made you get into this business anon?

> those racist dudes on the 4chan image board just randomly submitted a business plan while drunk


> selling watermelon and kool aid in the ghetto

>>2975330
So you don’t have plumbing, running water, electricity or any dwellings of any type at all where you live?

>>2975619
>CAD
>CNC

Bro as someone who is pretty well versed in both of these

Trust me

You ain’t making shit doing this

Go get a job at chik-fila you’ll make more money and the girls that work there are really cute and your age

The old men in that machine shop won’t teach you shit because they think you don’t deserve it yet

And you’ll have to somehow buy $5k in tools from MSC because nobody would let you use their surface plate 3-4” mics and the boss doesn’t provide them for your minimum wage operator job when you’re starting out

>>2976228
i mean a biz in those areas that uses bitches like you

>>2976228
what would happen if you moved to an actual industrialized country
if fast food workers and shit water fitters are making more than you then that's kinda telling

>>2976228
>The old men in that machine shop won’t teach you shit because they think you don’t deserve it yet
You don't.

>>2975256
I heard trades is fucked. You have to know someone to even get in, and all the jobs go to seniority.

>>2975276
mroe or less feels like it these days. Im almost at 100k a year and can barely afford to own a real house in my town. The only ones that are afford able are the shitty old ones with tons of issues, or no yard to speak of with grandfathered lot sizes in the 5000-6000 ft range. plus your neighbors are all tweakers or browns.

>>2975632
lot of tradies also start their own at journeyman level and it's much harder to be a master in medicine, law etc than basic trades

>>2975276
>Make 100k/yr working part time
>Subsistence
Okay brochacho

>>2976379
How terrible are you with money that you can't live with that income like holy shit lmao

>>2975254
stop looking at pretty girls, stop wanking and get off your arse

>>2975254
make "magic" crystals and spells and sell to retard women

>>2976431
How many tradies are making $100k/year working part time?

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>>2975256
>If you want to make subsistence wages, sell cute little crafts to the pinterest crowd

If that's you're only income stream, yes. But if you find a profitable niche, it can add up. Attached is from 14 months on Etsy.

Definitely NOT something you can live on, but as something to fill the free time, it can be fun.

>>2976674
>23k
>a year of my bills is 12k
Any advice on etsy in general? Wife and I both do a lot of craft type stuff we probably wouldn’t hate doing for money. Seems like it would be hard to stand out from a billion indians and parasites importing trash from overseas though.

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>>2976724
>Any advice on etsy in general?

Not really, I'm just winging it. For me it's just a side hobby I fell into out of boredom after the military and while im half-assing online school (thanks GI bill). I really don't pay much attention to it and if it required a lot of time/effort I wouldn't do it.

>Seems like it would be hard to stand out from a billion indians and parasites

If what you're trying to sell is already saturated, you're wasting your time. If someone can do it cheaper than you, or mass-produce it overseas, don't bother. I sell niche embroidered items of designs that aren't available anywhere else.

To get to this point, I had to: learn machine embroidery and find an industrial-grade embroidery machine for not a lot of money. They normally sell for tens of thousands of dollars, but I found one for like $2k that had been sitting for years, taught myself how to repair it, brought it back to life, and taught myself how to use it (I can hear it in my garage as I type this, sewing away at 800 stitches/min). Then I had to 'acquire' professional-grade digitizing software and learn how to make designs sew correctly.

I price my items high because I don't want to deal with having to spend more time on this.

I think if you have a half-way decent product it will sell. If you're 3d printing slop from thingverse, you're wasting your time.

>>2976618
idk making supplements and vitamin powders for retarded men seems more diy

>>2975254
over covid i was making wiring harnesses for cars. think of like the boomslang ecu patch cables. my only advice is to find something with a big ass mark up. like those cables were just wire but I was able to sell them for 5 to 700 dollars.

anyone else maladaptive daydreams about becoming a maker tycoon?

>>2975632
There are exceptions like notch, who wrote a silly lego type game and was paid a billion dollars for it. But those people are the exception, not the rule.

>>2979082
That's true especially in software. It was like the same thing where you could write one program and sell it a million times. Labor multiplication. All the easy bases have been covered now though, so you'd have to make a generational breakthrough like notch. It's like banking on being a movie or sports star