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Docker is Gay Edition
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READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server
/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.
>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.
>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.
>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlf BOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-o dvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ 8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn
Cockpit is nice for remote administration
Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
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>>108254616
Is ther a good way to test dns config? Currently I disconnect from my wifi and vpn on my phone, set up a hotspot to connect to with my laptop and test from there. There's gotta be a better way though.
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Sex with elf girls and fairies.
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>>108255462
need... elf... wife...
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>>108255462
hide data on ur servers with this
https://github.com/monorhenry-create/NeurallengLLM
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>>108258211
yes the retard will be the one that doesn't recognize gigabytes of text files isn't some encryption method, especially since it's on github advertising exactly what it does
you pedophiles are fucking disgusting and stupid. you all go in the oven with the jews.
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>>108258239
>yes the retard will be the one that doesn't recognize gigabytes of text files isn't some encryption method, especially since it's on github advertising exactly what it does
how do you encode images into letters u weirdo? this is for short form texting not to spread images. Is anyone using signal, telegram and other encrytption bad people?
why not show us ur face
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FUCK OFF
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>>108258297
this has token limit of of maybe 1000 tokens, do you think images with thousands of bytes, and videos with millions can be turned into series of texts? do i look i run a data center to you , you faggy glow nigger. This is simply tool im building so i can text my friends on discord and other sites limiting mega corporation data collection on me. And your accusing me of pedophelia cause i said this helps with privacy
FUCK U
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>>108256767
Yes, I run a matrix homeserver that I use. My experience with element's homeserver software, Synapse, was rather poor. It was pretty resource heavy and slow. Though granted, it was about 2 years ago when I used it so it may have improved since then.
I currently run tuwunel for my matrix server and have had a much better time.
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>>108258429
Thanks. I've used synapse and I was going to give ess a go, but that requires k8s, so I'll be happy to try this first.
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whats up faggots
i posted days ago about an intruder in my wifi net and asked about ways to mess with him, well I've been doing some shit
>dusted off old laptop with ubuntu
>dusted off old usb gigabit nic
>upgrade to ubuntu 24.04
>attach usb nic, configure bridges for onboard and usb nic
>install libvirt
>install pfsense with both bridges
>setup network and cables cables
>test nat
>ok.png
>attach wireless ap
>disable wifi from isp
>configure ssid / password the same in wireless ap
>fucker connects
>yes.png
tried to sniff on his dns queries but the fucker is using an android application that forces encrypted tls dns, however given my nics are in promiscuous mode and the laptop has a full fledged kde desktop i was able to install wireshark and sniff all the wireless packets
disclaimer: unless you have a managed switch with vlans stay away from laptops as glorified routers, the usb nic sucks ass i get at most 2MB/s and it is supposedly gigabit
hoping i catch this motherfucker browsing 4chan
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>>108259511
The only things I would want to grab are maybe the armored core games. That one 360 bionicles game. I guess some bios's maybe. Most old games are slop that I couldn't give less of a shit about.
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>ssh config
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>>108259551
do what you can, fwiw
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are there any ventilation knowers in here? i want to add ventilation to the closet my servers live in. it has a regular internal house door on it and i was planning on adding a nice big air vent at the bottom of it for cold air intake and a couple of passive exhaust fans at the top of the door to exhaust hot air. the room temperature is always noticeably a few degrees hotter inside the closet but not to an obnoxious degree. would this create enough of a pressure differential to spin the passive fans? do i need to take some temperature readings to calculate this to be sure before i spend the money, are passive fans feasible for this sort of thing?
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>>108260657
>passive
well this is a ridiculous thought experiment
place a passive fan anywhere in your house with all the windows and doors closed. does it move?
>heat rises
yeah no shit. convection gets instantly outclassed by even the slowest actively powered fans. turns out moving things is easier than not moving things.
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>>108259251
>reddit post about apps/browsers not respecting their dns set up and still querying whatever they like. what can I do to prevent this from happening to me?
A reddit post and what,.not a single redditor in the thread could figure it out or something?
In you're firewall/router you'd set your local DNS server as the primary DNS server. Usually, that is enough as most normies tend to leave their device's DNS settings to 'automatic', it will pick up the default DNS set by the network.
If that isn't enough, then just block all DNS traffic going outbound on WAN with the exception of your DNS server (because it still has to obtain records, obviously)
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>>108260973
>well this is a ridiculous thought experiment
not really
>place a passive fan anywhere in your house with all the windows and doors closed. does it move?
we're not talking about a randomly placed fan, we're talking about a fan fixed to a door and we know one side of the door is hotter than the other
>convection gets instantly outclassed by even the slowest actively powered fans
obvious and irrelevant
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Home server just became office server. Yes cable management sucks, I'm still somewhat in debug mode. Moving hardware doesn't guarantee network preservation, for some reason, probably because I'm retarded and did something stupid.
We're up though. At some point I had a public IP but now I don't... For some reason related to the building infra. I'm gonna fuck with it today, see if I can get out from the building subnet.
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>>108261869
well are you retarded?
if they fans are moved by the air, which is unlikely in your scenario, then their movement is a consquence of the air moving. IT IS NOT MOVING THE AIR. it is converting the energy of the moving air to rotational energy.
a passive fan is nonsense, unless you put a generator in it or use the rotational energy in some other form. it is REDUCING your airflow.
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NTA but I think I saw the same post that anon saw. It isn't as simple as you make it out to be. Some IOT devices and apps were bypassing Adguard Home with different methods that's very easy to overlook but have different ways of solving (as in there isn't a one stop solution to fix all of them)
>https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1re30wm/your_local_dns_filt er_is_probably_being_bypassed/
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Other posters are neglecting that some things may use modern DNS like DoH (DNS over HTTPS) that can't really so easily blocked at the router. The Reddit link describes some of them. Traditional DNS blocking is trivial.
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I think asking here would be my best chance at getting an answer.
So my ISP is doing some fuckery with DNS, and only using DoT would resolve the websites.
1. Is there a way to have a container to do this? Or a way for gluetun to support cloudflare warp?
2. Set that container to act as HTTP/SOCKS5 proxy?
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>>108266956
docker is a low-iq diy hack solution to a lack of skills problem, so ofcourse most people would use docker, it's like a religion.
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>>108266724
Jeet devs being lazy and not properly packaging their program or even just making an install script are the issue. If you want to use docker to run your services then that's fine, but it's aids to add another level of configuration for one shittly made service when you're not already using docker.
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>>108267219
Probably a p2000. Or rtx 4000 (turing). I have a 4000 and there are some odd issues with passthrough when restarting the virtual machine. You kinda have to restart the server whenever you restart the vm to get the gpu to properly passthrough.
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>>108261869
That pictured roof device is wind powered,
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Is correct. Any passive fan would just slow airflow.
>>108260657
You're better off just drilling tge holes in your door and calling it a day. Any fan that wpild help should be powered. Or, you know, just keep the door cracked open.
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>get brand new wd red
>serial is DELET3ME
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Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I've been thinking about openCL for a bit and just had an idea.
As I understand it, FPGA's are far more flexible and (potentially) far faster than a GPU of the same generation, but they are FAR harder to program. Normally you program your FPGA with a specific "application" but instead of this just being software running on an existing compute core, it's basically configuring blocks of hardware to create the same output behavior. So despite in theory being capable of far more flexibility, being able to be configured to emulate an (older) CPU, GPU, or specific application, in reality the complexity involved in using them means they aren't practical unless you're very knowledgeable or have a very specific problem.
But what if you didn't configure it to run a specific application? What if you configured it to behave JUST as an openCL device? Skip the usual GPU stuff and just implement an "ideal" openCL device? Something that is derived as directly as possible from the openCL definitions/instruction set.
Then, instead of programming your FPGA for one specifica application, it could run ANY openCL kernal, and (possibly?) do so with greater speed/total performance than a comparably aged GPU since in effect the FPGA would be optimized as a device *specifically* designed to run openCL programs.
Could this work or is this just a round-about way of implementing a GPU on an FPGA?
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>>108266956
There are decent and bad ways to containerize applications. A lot of times you see containers that aren't really stateless or meant to run rootless. Instead, they rely on a bunch of mounts, have permissions issues when run rootlessly due to UID mapping, require CAP_SYS_ADMIN, require Docker-specific shit and can't run under Podman, require a database within the same container with little flexibility to store the data somewhere else, etc. Taking them to a K8s environment only exacerbates the problems.
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Is this a HDD general? How fucked up is this sound coming from my 8tb WD Red Plus WD80EFZZ (CMR according to internet).
I remember hearing it when I first bought it, found a way to reproduce it by copying some images on the drive (the recording below) (now I can't anymore), and now when using MKVToolNixWrapper to remux some anime, basically just reading and writing to the drive, this sound happens at the end of the operation.
https://files.catbox.moe/3sc7u9.flac
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I need some advice, I am trying to setup a nas but the drives I have are not ideal:
2x6tb red plus
2x4tb wd blue (but smr)
do I:
- use truenas and run them as mirrored pools (wasting space)
or
-buy unraid and use one of the reds as the parity drive.
I don't want to pay for unraid but apparently truenas doesn't like smr drives. I don't think unraid cares as long as the parity drive is cmr. Ideally I'd buy better drives but...yeah.
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Hopefully my new drives are arriving today.
My current drives are slowly dying and I've had to call DHL three times because customs wanted my ID, then bank transaction, then links to what I brought.
What a pain... I'm half expecting all the drive platters to be loose in the box once it finally turns up.
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>>108258211
if you want plausible deniability there's already ways to do it and it's not basic encryption, you need to layer encryption and hide partitions and decrypt innocuous looking stuff in place of your data
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>>108270663
https://perfectmediaserver.com/
I'd recommend reading this first. At least the storage pages.
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>>108268598
Just build them yourself from source if you don't trust the prepackaged ones from the registry.
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Pic or didn't happened.
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>create alpine vms to try k8s, swarm etc.
>joining the clusters fails
>try to use alpine vms for bare metal experiments
>the ports are locked despite no iptables/nft
Literally, why does Alpine fail at these tasks? Why does docker service fail to setup, and k8s is mystersly failing to join the cluster without any errors?
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How bad are 4kn drives for usb enclosure compatibility really? I see a lot of 4kn drives on ebay for cheapish but AI told me it's a losing gamble on if they will work with any given usb enclosure, it's not worth the risk and to just stick to the 512 ones that say advanced format, which are a bit rarer to see
talking hgst/wd enterprise drives btw
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I'm looking into self-hosting a password manager and am unsure if this is something I should do. Are there options available for Linux, Android, and Windows that are realiable and safe to use? Since I will want to access my passwords over the internet when away from home, I'm unsure how secure I can make this all by myself. Is password management something better left to bigger companies or are they all untrustworthy?
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>get some new drives for my server to FINALLY have enough slack to raid5 it
>one currently running drive dies before the new drives arrive
>one drive is now having seek errors
>1/2 of my raid1 ssds die
>desktop ssd dies
I'm going to throw all my pcs into a shredder and then shoot myself.
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>running 2x20TB in RAID 1 for my (mostly) Plex server
>using software RAID through Windows
>want to convert to RAID 5
is RAID 5 through Windows really that bad? conversely, I could just break up the RAID 1 because I have most of my stuff backed up to externals (cold storage), and worst case my drive fails and I lose easily replaceable media
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which file browser do you guys use? The list in the self-hosted database is too long and i don't wanna test every single one.
i saw people recommend filebrowser but it's in maintenance now. Nextexplorer is supposedly nice but it's not in that database.
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So I've used TrueNAS/Proxmox for awhile with Plex and Jellyfin. Added Sonarr and Radarr for the organization and renaming automation and it's been a game changer. I would like to do this with other things but the best option gets less clear beyond those so any recommendations for books, audiobooks, roms, photos, images other than photos, music, YouTube downloads, manga, comics, etc?
Bonus if it's an easy TrueNAS setup but in the end it's just docker.
Immich seems good on photos but without it using my phones folders for albums easily it's not been great for wallpapers, memes, etc.
Beyond that there are so many options like bookshelf, Booklore, Kavita, Lidarr, etc it's hard to know which works best for organizing and serving out content like a Sonarr/Jellyfin combo does. Need a reverse proxy too for that matter.
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No idea on serr but Sonarr works very well on it. Only and issue or two with really old obscure shit.
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Is there any point in attempting to learn how to run a plex server for my extended family if I only get 25mbps upload? I'm in an extremely rural area and Starlink is my only option. We're all using Stremio currently but it's been kind of a pain.
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>>108272773
Does keepassxc have any emergency access feature allowing me to still access my passwords if the server should go down at some point? I used to have a password manager at work that kept a local copy of the database accessible for 30 days if the actual db was not reachable.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I was hoping not to spend any money on selfhosted services, because then I feel like I might as well just use a regular hosted service.
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>>108274956
I use an app to two way mirror the db on my phone. I figure I'm not going to lose my phone, and server, and backup server all at the same time, without also losing my desktop and laptop, so I haven't done anything similar for them.
It also lets you merge the database, so if it gets edited externally while you have it open nothing gets lost.
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https://www.amazon.com/9500-16i-12Gb-HBA-TriMode-NVMe/dp/B08926P9R4
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How do you name your servers?
Previously mine were
maserati
samantha38g
sofiarose
natashanice
alexxxisallure
mollyevans
aprilflores
but I've consolidated everything into
gianna : new addition workhorse never complains
samantha38g : old reliable 44 cores juicy ram
maserati : huge black NAS with two UPS hangers
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>>108275812
>gianna : new addition workhorse never complains
id name my workhorse server "Bertha" but i already have a giant hen named bertha so i dont want to use it twice. Maybe 'Sheila', the tank from red vs blue.
I have a tiny box that i used to use as the destination of ssl decrypted traffic dumps that i named "sniffer" but i dont use it for that anymore
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Anyone have experience with Tiny10? I'd like to use Windows on my server, I'm using 10 LTSC IoT but I'm often running into compatibility issues with certain software. Wondering if it's worth the migration or more of the same?
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I guess that is also a way of doing it. Just duplicate the database onto multiple devices. Would it very stupid to just mirror it onto a usb-stick attached to the server? That way I can always hook it up to my client machine if I need my passwords but the server has died.
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>from wifi?
from any network I want, I suppose. My network is segregated into 'Trusted', 'Guest', and 'Limited' subnets, with different WiFi SSIDs for each and the wireless networks share the same DHCP server and subnet as their 'wired' neighbors (WiFi only 'trusted' devices share the same subnet as wired 'trusted' devices via software switch)
But anyway, I use a Fortigate 60f as a firewall/router and when setting up firewall traffic policies you can set security profiles for packet inspection, and obtionally, a destination for sending a copy of the decrypted traffic to. But with this, the end user (if there is one) would receive security warnings. For example, lets say I'm monitoring SSL traffic of my personal computer; every time i'd try to view an HTTPS webpage in my browser I'd get security errors stemming from my Firewall's cert so my only options would be to not use https, not access a particular website, or accept the security risk and proceed
pic somewhat related, but i dont use it anymore
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What storage volume is worth getting in a starter NAS?
I was looking at a basic 4-bay case, but for that use, 4 used 6tb SAS drives will cost me the same as a brand new 20tb sata one. I can find some better deals for 8 12tb drives, but it feels like overkill.
I know the basics that the lower capacity is always more expensive per tb, but I can't find a volume that doesn't feel either outrageously expensive or totally useless.
At this point, what is the minimal price you would put in drives to consider it a useful investment?
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Any recommended (Windows) apps/tools for hosting multiple game servers? At the moment I do it all manually and via notepad like a pleb. I've had a look at HaruHost, WindowsGSM, they all cost money, and I'm happy to pay for a good one. Just wondering if any anons had experience or recommendations for a dashboard to host/edit/keep track of my server instances for this?
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>>108254616
https://noirclothings.com/products/pre-order-noir-series-078-karepack- plushie
Wife alert!
1 day left
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>>108275409
this looks nice but its £100 minimum per card
I'm only building a budget-ish build right now with the only splurge being the GPU and near new HDDs
I also may not have the lanes for that Broadcom card on my mobo after my GPU
Is the LSI card I posted or a similar model the best thing right now for £50?
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I have never used raid,nas, a server or whatever. I have a 4th gen i5 inspiron desktop laying around and 3-4 old 1tb drives I was going to try and stick in my main PC, but I figure I might as well put them all in the Dell and try using raid and storing pictures and stuff. I also want to use it to seed since one of my 1tb drives is used just for that.
What is the difference between actual NAS software and a normal operating system? Is there something I could just boot off a usb since with 4 drives I would be maxing power and sata in my case?
Could I just leave it off most of the time and just turn it on if I need to access the data?
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The only difference is in what comes installed off of the bat and any "helper" programs like a web-ui. They will also be stripped of other software like a gui, graphics drivers, etc. Are you going to be doing more than just using it as a nas? Wireguard vpn? Automated backups from your desktop? Jellyfin? Seedbox?
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>>108275812
Vocaloids. Miku, teto, rin. Etc.
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>>108281146
A NAS is typically pretty locked down in terms of function. Idea is that it just works and is rock solid and available on demand.
A general server can do lots of other stuff. Maybe start by building a NAS and see if it even appeals to you.
If youre going to seed from it, you'll want it on all the time... right?
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I don't really care about reliability, I just want to use this existing hardware to do something useful. The reason I wouldn't leave it on is power consumption since I saw someone say it would cost like $100 a year to leave on a pc with a processor not designed to be low power. Even if it wasn't that I've already seeded like 400 TB's so I really don't care if it's up 100 percent of the time.
By it being network attached I could just put pictures on it without having to physically go to the computer and back up them up and the torrents I made.
Is it possible to have it just be a normal computer, have the hard drives in raid and have the storage accessible on the network and the computer itself or is that just incompatible? Having an actual computer where I'd be keeping it would be useful so if it could do both it would be nice.
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Only reason I would is because I'd have to run off a pcie card (never tried it before) to get an extra data cable and split a sata power cable to power the drive, then SSD's have gotten very expensive and I don't have any not already in a machine.
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I don't really have any other ideas what to do with it, just dump some files on it every once in a while.
Like I already mentioned if I could send files to it from other devices, and still be able to use it as a desktop that would be nice if possible.
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>>108281711
>Only reason I would is because I'd have to run off a pcie card (never tried it before)
It's not too hard to do, but it is an extra expense. I get it.
>then SSD's have gotten very expensive and I don't have any not already in a machine
I know, shit sucks, I can't actually afford to replace my aforementioned dead ssds.
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>>108281762
I've never worked with expansion cards so my big issue is I heard they might not necessarily show up in the bios boot menu? If it did I think it wouldn't be too bad price wise to get an m.2 pcie adapter and get one of those like 16gb cards out of what I imagine are ewaste netbooks to have the OS on.
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>>108281831
I don't boot off my HBA card so I can't offer any guidance unfortunately, but when I boot my server I do see the HBA firmware readout before the motherboard bios screen. So in that case it might show up in the boot menu? You'll just have to roll the dice I guess. One las thing, you could use one of the hdds as the os drive and see if you even like running a server/nas before you invest time + money into more hardware. That's how I started, I originally hosted plex out of my desktop lol.
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Wireguard server so that your phone is always routed through your home network.
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/r/homelab be like
>hey guys what should i do to learn about networks for employment purposes?
>experienced network engineer here, you need to buy [shithole brand router] and flash openwrt on it
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