Why do people buy smartphones? They can't do anything fliphones can't.

Don't care. Still using my S7.

>>108257527
>Android is not locking down
correct
so far samsung is

I just won't update, and hope that by the time I need a new phone there's some improvements in open source phone OS.

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>>108257527
Not my problem. I don't use Samsung.

>>108257527
take away sideloading i'll just get an iphone or open source phone. i have no loyalty to the android brand or samsung brand.

>>108257527
So, how to protect from this shit? Flash TWRP before they do this? Custom ROM? After they do it, can you flash it via adb and 'fix it' or is it already lost?

>>108257808
linux pc no more phones

>>108257808
literally just dont do OTA updates. if you must update do it over usb.

>>108257808
Same way consolefags avoid their hacked system from being banned/wiped. Just don't update.

>>108257527
What updates? Android actually get updates?

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>>108258218
The last time my phone updated it didn't offer me a choice. I might be safe because I'm still on Android 10 and I ported my device off the original carrier.

>>108257527
>scamsung

>>108258233
all OTA programs on androids are "protected apps" meaning you can't disable them normally but ofc its meaningless protection since ADB ignores this and you can tell your device or router to block all network ports related to it.

>>108258220
There's a major update every year and smaller security updates bi monthly.

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>>108257527
>overre-ack
heh

>>108257527
This is not a surprise. The removed the OEM unlocking option in 16. I have an A9 tablet I use for flying and had to downgrade it to 15 in order to root the device so I could install adaway, and debloater to remove their fucking garbage bloat. Really wish any other android make would make a decent tablet to compete with the ipad mini.

>>108258494
android tablets are dead. chink handhelds finished them off.

Samsung has always been cucked. Dunno if its still the case but I remember tripping knox to unlock the bootloader would permanently lock your battery from charging past 80%.

>>108257554
Still using my S8 kek

>>108258494
>>108258535
Android tablets never had a chance compared to the iPad because of the striking difference between how their app distribution works.

Y'see, the iPad App Store will, by default, only show you apps made for iPads. You have to hit a toggle to show iPhone apps that'll run on iPads. Same applies to the Mac App Store. It'll only show you Mac apps unless you hit the toggle to show iPhone/iPad apps.
Google Play, on the other hand, just shows you everything. Phone apps, tablet apps, etc... all mashed together in lists and search results. It will happily let you install designed-for-phone apps on an Android tablet and let the user have a shit experience. Same applies to Chromebooks. They'll show you phone and tablet apps that run like shit on Chromebooks and let you install them without warning.

>actually Android is Linux
cope harder and kys. you've never used Linux or a distro and it shows.

We should boycott everything Samsung because of the RAM prices. No more phones and no more washing machines and no more anything else from Samsung. This even solves the specific problem in the OP en passant.

That's it. I'm making my own phone

How the fuck do I avoid this. Scamsung forces updates

>>108259098
remove the updater apk with adb if you don't want to unlock the bootloader

Just don't buy their shit. Simple

>>108257536
are you retarded? normies care about social media slop and would feel like dorks using flips. many other reasons but that's the first to immediately come to mind

>>108257536
The problem is you, not everyone else

>>108259098
At least back on my old Galaxy S7 Edge, it would show system-modal dialogs asking if I wanted to update now, tonight, or later, and the later option would disappear after a couple uses. But I found that if I opened the notification shade and opened any app through a notification or the settings gear, it would cancel out the modal, and since neither now nor tonight had been tapped, it did neither.

>>108257527
>4 year old phone, just werks
>update to OneUI 7
>battery life goes to shit
>fix it by wiping cache partition
>now they're removing that option
as soon as this shit breaks I'm never coming back to this cunt of a company

jewdroid has been compromised for ages

You should have seen this coming a mile away with all of the news coming out of Google, and Samsung being Samsung.
You might as well just buy an iPhone at this point.

>>108257578
samsung is android
people don't buy androids. they buy samsungs.

>>108257527
There is still pooxel10 + glowienos route

>>108260637
this, although I still like to do file operations from time to time

>>108257536
Uber and Lyft.

>>108257536
>They can't do anything fliphones can't.
I hate 'tardphones too, anon...
But: ORLY?
SSH? Do much o that on your flip phone? PS1/N64/PSP/Gameboy etc? What about pilotin' a drone, does your flip phone do that? Does your flip phone ring the spam caller back then hold down * because they'll have a headset right in their ear? Does it ring them back if they try to hang up?
etc
etc
etc

>>108257808
>So, how to protect from this shit?
I've got a hammer?
Next time, buy a computer you can control.

>>108257527
All because people started talking about Israel on Tiktok.

>>108260948
Only one demographic targets scamsung. Oddly enough, they have many common features with those that target crapple...

>>108257527
I love how Samsung is turning into shit version of Apple.

>>108257527
use case ?

What in case there is only iSheep or Shitsung or some local shitty brands (globally nonames) like in Japan? I already had this problem and rotting fruit or local brand was not the way...

>>108257527
Samshit deserves to die. I'm going on the pixel train for now.

>>108257527
Windows phones failing was a disaster. You had more freedom there than on stock android preinstalled

>>108257527
On you for buying gookslop. The chinks make better phones these days.

>>108257536
I'm not. When my old iphone dies I'm getting a dumbphone.

>>108257527
Samsung has been working hard to make itself the most locked down android brand that only braindamaged sheep buy. Similar to apple. This choice makes sense in that context. Full control at all cost.

>>108257527
Samsung is the Apple of Android. Locked down junk, switch to a different brand.

>>108257527

Is it the same case for Pixel? If I had to use Android it’d be against my will and it’d be one of those.

>>108257527
Using Samsung devices is retarded anyway.
Yeah, I sure wish I had shittier, duplicated versions of every stock app because Samsung wants me into their ecosystem, while Google won't allow them to use the Play Services / Store without preinstalling THEIR shitty stock apps.

Android is such a mess.

>>108257527
Now would be a good time to pick up a GrapheneOS-compatible device, before the normies get on to the idea and drive up the price, which is more likely after all the authoritarian shit that's being spun up gets shoved through. I snagged a mint Pixel 8a 128GB yesterday for €150. Not even stolen or locked. It's fine.

>>108260501
Android itself is forcing developers to fix themselves or you won't be able to install their apps, no "sideloading" won't work either. Fuck jewgle, literally no reason not to buy and iPhone if they follow through with that garbage

>>108263951
>Fix
Dox

>>108257536
I have to use google authenticator app for byod wfh shit

>>108259098
Buy a chinkphone or a motorola or a gimmickphone like clicks communicator or litephone

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>>108257527
Come home, yellow man

>>108262444
samsung is nice because it's all open source

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>>108257527
Well, there goes my reason for using Android.

I guess iPhone it is now.

>>108264091
>because it's all open source
Even the literal jew spyware?
Where I sauce on that?

>>108262316
No you won't

>>108257536
Dumbphones have 2g and 3g
They very """conveniently"""" shut that down so you can't call or text anymore

>>108257536
Banking apps. That's literally it. Most functionality has been pulled from websites.

>>108265647
>They very """conveniently"""" shut that down so you can't call or text anymore
And a 'tarphone isn't?

>>108265648
>Most functionality has been pulled from websites.
Sounds like grounds for prosecution.
Discrimination.

>>108259098
>always leave less than 1 GB of storage available
>never connect to wifi
In combination these things foil the update jew in my experience

Literally the entire reason behind using an android is that it's an open platform and ultimately you can choose to do whatever you want with it. Take that away, and what's even the point of bothering with android at all? If they're going to lock it all down, I may as well just get an iphone

>>108257761
I’ve already made the switch a few months ago when google and Samsung really started sucking dicks over this decision. It’s really not bad

Yeah customization and not being locked to an apple or microsoft store is why android took most market share.
Android or the flagship android brand choosing to undo that is very foolish.

Ceasing to be a pocket computer and just becoming a spyware phone and camera.

Consumer tech is really so sad right now.

From pc components being priced out of the market, to phones being locked down.
While electronic tech in autos or appliances is worse than those things before they had tech.

The whole field went from fun and improving life to burdening humanity.

>>108265228
https://opensource.samsung.com/uploadList?menuItem=mobile

the only reason to get a scamsung is to make your own cheap snapdragon emulation handheld

The next phone I get will probably be some cheap chinese knockoff phone because if it's going to spy on me either way I'd rather give my info to a gov't that can't do anything to me.

>>108266026
Shill post. You can't make me buy an iShit devices.
I would rather be locked in a concrete box than use any faggot appleshit device.

>>108257527
>NOOOOO I WONT BE ABLE TO INSTALL MUH HECKIN SHITAPPS MADE BY A BASEMENT CHUD ANYMOE NOOOOOO
Oh no! What will you do when you have to use professionally made apps fully vetted for safe use now????

>>108267029
Chat is this 1) ragebait or 2) retard?

>>108264886
>One OEM locks down their already KNOX locked down phones
>Welp, better switch to this other OEM which has locked down their phones much harder for 10+ years
Amerilards, everyone.

>>108266885
based

>removed menu tools
no they didn't, they just hid how to access them

>>108267029

Or you can use a version that doesn't call home, doesn't spy on you, can be saved to reinstall later, and can be installed on any os version or phone even if not officially listed or updated to work on that phone (by does). Google play store apps often won't even have a version for your phone once it is a few years old even if the current version would work fine it prevents installation by just being unavailable.

>>108267223

On top of that google and everyone given access to google's records or listening to its data flow sent back and forth for updates and account info gets a list of every app and tool on your device. Maybe you don't want everyone from the government to hackers to private companies knowing every tool and app you use catalogged for reference by every corporation and world government.

Yeah but no one updates their sammies. If you update you'll get phone breaking glitches or defects like the green line on the display. Updates are CANCER.

>>108267257
I update all the time. Never a single issue. Why do you come to the Internet and lie? Are you Indian by chance? You are, aren't you?

>>108258220
the updates do not seem to be beneficial - they fuck you in the ass, so of course, android users will tell you that there are no updates as the updates are basically an erect BBC waiting outside your home - you best ignore it.

>>108267284
Look up the updates bricking S23Us all over the world.

>>108267299

I have known women that update or even buy a new expensive high end phone because the old version doesn't support the latest emotes and so they cannot see when they are in a text.
The level of npc is beyond your comprehension.

>>108267360
i told you that updates are just erect BBCs in front of your house. those women leave the door open.

>>108267372
I need erect BBCs

>>108267454
if old phones are better, we may just end up with people who buy like 10 old phones and use them forever.

why are all of your commends deleted? you did not even break rules, you probably are deleting them yourself and those commends are perfectly safe for the board.

>>108267477

I'm sorry I added a video that came from 4chan as part of the joke and it didn't display. I tried again and same thing.
This board must have a restriction and without the webm the post wasn't funny enough to be worth having posted.

>>108267257
I stopped updooting my S23U because I don't like the UXUI changes in oneUI7, shrimple as.
I dread the day this thing dies.

>>108267783
OneUI 8 is better though, 8.5 is probably even better.

>wahhhh I'm a baby duck who imprinted on OneUI 7 and can't use a slightly different UI
>better stick with this old version with tons of exploits

>>108267816
NTA, I downgraded to A15/oUI7 to get the OEM unlocking option back. I don't give a fuck about their UI, juwst wanted to root my a9 mini tablet to debloat it so it would be smooth and reliable in flight. Would really be nice if someone made a tablet to compete with the ipad mini.

>>108267816
I'll wait for it to be better before updooting then, at that point I might've already left for applel or some chinky brand.
7 is cancer btw, wish I could go back to 5 but I can at least tolerate 6.

>>108267853
>tablet
You have already lost
>OEM unlocking to break KNOX when you could just use Universal Android Developer
...before you even began

>>108267856
>buying Samsung
Big mistake

>>108267871
Bigger screen is better to fly with. Phone screens are too small to brief plates with. Name another viable competitor in the small tablet segment that has cell access specifically it has a GPS receiver that isn't the ipad mini.
If I want root access, unlocking it is the easiest method. It's nice to debloat it on the device as well as being able to run adaway to block ads. That combined with afwall keeps apps off the internet that have no business accessing it.

zero fucking surprise its Samsung who starts this first. However as our good friends at FDroid indicate - https://keepandroidopen.org/ - we need to push back against this garbage. Make Samsung (and eventually, Google) take such a blow in terms of PR that they reverse course, similar to how Discord suddenly is trying to get around their garbage about Palantir identity verification and claim it wasn't 'really' their plan to require it etc.

>>108267054
>1) ragebait or 2) retard?
Do they need to be mutually exclusive?
I'll put my money on both.

>>108267114
>they just hid how to access them
Enlighten us o wise one. How are they accessed now?

>>108257536
I can't play miku tap tap game on a flip phone

>>108267816
What exploits? None of that shit matters. No one's hacking my phone, and I'm not downloading random crap. I don't need the latest updates, no one does. Especially not at the risk of breaking my phone.

>>108267856
Yeah 6 is okay, 7 looks so bad I've disabled all updates and I'll 100% get some fancy chinkphone in the future if Sammy doesn't get back in shape

>>108268389
Ah, we have a zoomer here who never installed Windows XP after EOL just to instantly get malware without doing anything. Everyone look at this little guy, isn't he precocious?

I can't imagine the amount of stupid you'd have to be to be on /g/ and be afraid of updates. Is this wintoddler syndrome?

>>108260948
Found the burger

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>>108268107
Why give this docile cunt a (You)?

>>108267029
>What will you do when you have to use professionally made apps fully vetted for safe use now?
Say that again: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malicious-android-apps-on-google-play-downloaded-42-million-times/

>>108267029
Bait or not, I still think you're the type to throat dragon dildos.

>>108268596
I like farming for replies, so I like to give back to the community

>>108257527
my old nokia made in finland does not have this problem

>>108268596
Same reason as I gave you one?
Prolly the same reason you gave me one too...

>>108268028
>Enlighten us o wise one. How are they accessed now?
I am under NDA

>>108270815
>I am under NDA
And this prevents you from diviulging admistration techniques?
May I see the offending clause?

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>>108257527
What's the point of those options? Samsung has their download mode to load ROMs through Odin. You never use ADB sideload.

>>108271154
>You never use ADB sideload.
You when you want to replace their ROM.

I think you meant to say *they* never use sideload... Isn't Odin a Lockheed fing? Or am I thinkin' o the 'wrong' Odin...

>>108271257
He's talking about this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin_(firmware_flashing_software)

>>108257527
But why? They already got rid of bootloader unlocking

>>108271474
Ahh. Tankshoe.

i'm already on grapheneos on both my devices, EAT SHIT JEWGLE BITCH-ASS NIGGERSS

>>108257527
the ones claiming that you're over reacting aren't the ones -ACKing. they literally want android to be as locked down as possible.

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>>108260513
Go back to /pol/

>>108275914
saardroid HAS been pozzed for ages though ever

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>>108264084
I think you retards don't understand they're removing the abilty to install an alternative OS

>>108257536
Act

>>108257527
I hope fairphone becomes a thing

>samsung
Not my problem.

>>108265647
>nooo you can't shut down unused bands and free up those frequencies for other purposes I NEED to remain in arrested development from 20 years ago

>>108267054
Android has literally no usecase other than sideloading and being cheaper (but mostly being cheaper). Google is banking on the fact that most android users are third world poorfags who will continue to buy their phone and sideloading is a niche use.

>>108257536
Using an internet browser on a high end smartphone is a pain, let alone on a shitty flip phone.

>>108257527
Trying not to sound like cope, but does any of this stop you running commands directly through adb, which has been the standard for a decade now? All this shit has been obsolete for forever, holdovers from the 2.x days.

>>108278128
Where's your folding phone, applefags.

>>108266005
>>always leave less than 1 GB of storage available
>tfw fell for the free "upgrade" from 256GB to 512GB on my S24 Ultra

>>108273780
have you actually tried to use postmarketos?