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What is the point of AI?
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>>108262852
Dumb goy, it doesn't matter if you know that it's a scam. As long as a politician is gullible enough to pay billions to add "AI" to lethal weapons is enough. And if those weapons end up murdering civilians by "accident," even better.
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The social engineers, retarded and evil, plan to make "AI" the world government. The people are expected to believe "AI" is somehow intelligent, and impartial and ethical when it's actually just a voice changer of the social engineers. It's insanely dumb but it seems to be the plan.
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>>108262852
>What is the point of AI?
False progress
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>i asked it this malicious trick question when it assumed good faith so its worthless now, my job is safe!
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>>108262852
Jingling keys for the masses. It's useful for translating or combing through large volumes of text, but outside of academic situations or porn generation it's pointless. Who the fuck wants to watch AI "movies" besides drooling retards? My coworker has been playing AI music lately and it's so repetitive and boring.
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>>108262852
Elites want to replace wagies so they can make $$$ and possibly kill everyone off and live in utopia (this is a fantasy but it's the thinking of some of them at least). And/or this >>108262878
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>>108262852
Working along with a human being that can recognize the output and see if it's good.
If used in this specific setting, you get a faster human.
However vibe anything is absolutely fucking retarded and will lead to a catastrophe.
>>108262931
Not everything is purposeful. people in power are fucking retarded, and this ruins several of THEIR plans as well.
Probably no one, not even the CIA glow in the darks were expecting Sam Altman to do the RAM shit.
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>>108263745
This is not a malicious trick question.
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>>108264890
claude got it even without tool use.
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I got supergrok and I've been generating filth of huge beach ball fake tit girls in panty stores lactating for the past week. It has entirely taken over my dopamine channels. I haven't done anything for a week but generate videos, wait for the rate limit to go away, then generate more.
It's only for instant dopamine, that's it. I am amazed if I don't lose my job over this.
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>>108265366
chatgpt also got it right
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no it didn't, this is cope
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>>108265372
claude wrote a script to make new puzzles and a new instance got it right (so did chatgpt)
it hardly took any time at all
what's the last model you used, gpt 3.5?
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>>108265395
Come on, show it.
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>>108265549
Yeah, so as I said.
Pulled the answer from training set, fails logic. Nothing has changed.
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>>108265605
Here is a summary of the reasoning:
Eliminate: Clues 4 and 5 rule out 7, 3, and 8, but confirm 0 is in the code (just not in the last spot).
Find the 3rd Digit: Clue 3 (206) proves 2 is in the code (by ruling out 6), and Clue 1 confirms 2 is correctly placed in the last position.
Place the 0: Since 0 can't be in position 2 (Clue 3) or 3 (Clue 5), it must be in position 1.
Find the Middle: Clue 2 (614) rules out 6 and 1, leaving 4. Since it was in position 3 in the clue, it must belong in position 2.
Final Code: 042
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>>108265626
>Clue 3 (206) proves 2 is in the code (by ruling out 6)
On its own, clue three doesn't rule out 6. Really, clue 2 rules out 6, but the summary said that in the fourth step, which doesn't rule out 1 on its own.
That solution summary is pretty shit.
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>>108265759
Anyone who isn't banned can try themselves and see LLMs can create their own novel version of the problem and a new LLM context can one shot it as easily as the original version.
The "i-its in the training data" cope is completely holocausted
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>>108262852
my 27b Q6 is better than the commercial shit you idiots pay money to use. stop being lazy and fine tun a 27b or even a 12/24b if you need. it's hard. your average retarded /g/ cou.... well maybe someone that retarded couldn't do it - so, maybe.... maybe stick with your $20 a month ChatGPT after all
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>>108262852
It's an excellent scapegoat that can be blamed for all sorts of war crimes and unwarranted arrests. Surely these fucks in government aren't actually retarded enough to believe LLMs are capable of serious reasoning. It's a fucking token generator. The US government understands this right??
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ChatGPT level puzzle creation.
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>Not everything is purposeful. people in power are fucking retarded, and this ruins several of THEIR plans as well.
This. The big mistake alot of conspiracy people make (which is an easy one, admittedly) is thinking that there's one big plan everyone is in on. There isn't. Our social betters have about as many camps as we do. Sometimes, like when they collude to manipulate the stock market, it all works out: they all hold stocks, so it all works out for them. Other times it goes horrifyingly wrong. I'd be willing to bet stuff like the wars in Ukraine and Israel and now Iran were part of this: The camp who benefited from peace in our time have been getting royally fucked by the camp that benefits from war.
Israel, ironically, is a prime example of this in practice. Outsiders -- anti-zionists especially -- view Israel as being a monolithic front, with all Israelis believing the same message and working for the same goal, but life is more complicated than absolutes. The zionist, pro-war camp is the one holding political power at the moment, but they're not the only camp, and Israel comprises a number of camps -- pro peace, fundamentalist orthodox, moderate, etc, and there's conflict, and there's tension, and the pro-peace camp might triumph over the pro-war one, or the fundamentalist camp might secede and break the nation in half, for instance. Just because our social betters occasionally collaborate doesn't mean they're all on the same team. Do you really think the opportunistic dirtbags who run our society could trust eachother for more than a few seconds?
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>>108267663
>Israel, ironically, is a prime example of this in practice. Outsiders -- anti-zionists especially -- view Israel as being a monolithic front, with all Israelis believing the same message and working for the same goal, but life is more complicated than absolutes. The zionist, pro-war camp is the one holding political power at the moment, but they're not the only camp, and Israel comprises a number of camps -- pro peace, fundamentalist orthodox, moderate, etc, and there's conflict, and there's tension, and the pro-peace camp might triumph over the pro-war one, or the fundamentalist camp might secede and break the nation in half, for instance. Just because our social betters occasionally collaborate doesn't mean they're all on the same team. Do you really think the opportunistic dirtbags who run our society could trust eachother for more than a few seconds?
hello hasbara
>umm it's not all jews its just 90% of us
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>>108267663
>The zionist, pro-war camp is the one holding political power at the moment, but they're not the only camp, and Israel comprises a number of camps -- pro peace, fundamentalist orthodox, moderate, etc,
Maybe, but they all agree on exterminating us goyim and work together when it comes to that. Any "disagreements" are merely theater they can point to and say "look goyim, we're clearly not united so you have nothing to worry about". Even if they actually disagree on some things, they all agree thhat solving those diagreements will only come after the goyim problem is dealt with.
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>>108262852
>scientists found
That's nice. But I found modern civilization's fatal flaw: it keeps producing golems that can't make their own observations and will ignore reality, even as it keeps slapping them in the face, waiting for it to be officially certified by state/corporate-owned """scientists""". "Scientists" didn't find anything. Random people did. It's been known and confirmed beyond any doubt for ages.
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>>108267663
>Israel, ironically, is a prime example of this in practice. Outsiders -- anti-zionists especially -- view Israel as being a monolithic front, with all Israelis believing the same message and working for the same goal
I've lived in this shithole for most of my life and I can confirm that most Israelis are a monolithic front as far as defending denying/defending Israel's crimes and undermining the rest of the world is concerned.
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>>108262852
selling you shit you don't need, ads, massive surveillance and firing wagies
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>>108262893
you're absolutely right.
"Hey goys, let's create something, which we didn't need at all!"
Sherlock Holmes put it best when he said that even though encyclopedias are literally available anywhere, people are still stupid. AI solves nothing, it is just laziness.
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>>108264862
This is pure delusion. The ML/AI models as they stand are very inefficient and cost more then wages of the people they intend to replace. There is a massive disconnection between the parties investing in ML/AI and those who actually understand the technology and its limitations.
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AI is biased by the training set, it's failing all of these puzzles because it is biased to think of anything worded like a puzzle as a puzzle. This is also why AI all sounds the same and why hallucinations happen.
This can't be fixed by the way, enjoy this problem forever.
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>>108262852
>they needed actual SCIENTISTS to find this FATAL flaw
My fucking sides
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>>108262852
It makes grifters a shitton of money.
It has no other purpose. You're looking at a massive pyramid scheme held aloft by a chatbot that can't spell simple words.
But if you give us 2 trilly more, it'll wake up and become a real boy. Just 2 trilly and 200 million more for Israel.
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>>108270009
This, and it's incapable of ever fixing it itself, since it has no way to analyze its own training data or training weights. So we make bigger and more expensive models and in return we get... slightly better autocomplete.
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>>108265684
If you didn't create a new formal system with novel inference rules like Douglas Hofstadter did with the MIU system or the pg system, there's nothing new about your puzzle
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>>108262852
"AI" is a neat tool. It's not a god machine. Investors, to varying degrees, think they're financing a god machine that will be the ultimate transformative tool with infinite applications civilian and military. Some literally feel they're aiding in the creation of a digital god.
They're rubes.
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>>108271856
always the same case.
when something begins with.
"experts", "scientists", "former astronaut/cia operative / whatever"...
you know that it's gonna be garbage, as if it wasn't they'd not feel the need to hype you up with some bs authority figure.
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>>108270002
It's two hyphens masquerading as an EM dash. Look: -- I've done it again.
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>>108262852
To stop the anti-Christ. Pay attention.
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>>108272412
>hasbara department specifically asks jewgpt not to use the em-dash not to give it away that they're spamming forums with their bot
>the bot cleverly replaces the em-dash with two hyphens
AGI in two weeks.
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>>108265596
Isn't it 579?
If it was 569 then Rule 3 would say "695 - Three numbers are correct but wrongly placed"
And it doesn't comply with Rule 2 "327- One number is correct but wrongly placed"
Also in it's Conclusion logic it misquotes Rule number 2 to be "None of these digits are in the final code".
So it misinterpreted Rule 3 and copied Rule 4 onto Rule 2.
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>>108270009
I don't think that's it.
It's not good at puzzles or logic, because it seems to take hard rules as suggestions that have a lesser or greater weighting.
If it has other tokens with less weighting than the "hard rule" token, it's only a matter of how many low-weight tokens does it take for the LLM to ignore the "hard rule" token.
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to make videos like this
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>>108262852
Global mass surveillance and control
Those things take a lot of eyes sifting through a lot of data in real time all the time
The toys we get to play with is part bread and circus for us to be open to implementation of the surveillance and control AI part smokescreen for what type of AI they are developing for surveillance and control (not generative)
We lack the means of generating enough energy, once this realization sets in within the dark alley rooms the worlds government likes to discuss itll be dropped, one day everyone will just stop talking about it, companies will quietly move away and things will be quiet before these Underworld dogs find a new car to chase
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>>108262852
>What is the point of AI?
It's to single out retards who think written text equals to knowledge and intelligence because they work boring office jobs that include no math, no experiential learning, no skills that require fine motor movements, or dealing with physics, chemistry or logic
So yes, they will be replaced because their entire job is basically writing text or dealing with text of some sort
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i see so the solution is to run every question on 6 different models and have a 7th model evaluate the answers
this is definitely cheaper for society than hiring some guy (whose livelihood you have to support regardless if he is employed or not) to tell you the right answer
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>>108277334
>this is definitely cheaper for society than hiring some guy (whose livelihood you have to support regardless if he is employed or not) to tell you the right answer
It may not be cheaper now but it sure can get cheaper over the years
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>>108277334
>i see so the solution is to run every question on 6 different models and have a 7th model evaluate the answers
No, it answered correctly for me on the first try. The solution is to fire all the obsolte h*mans from their positions because they are too stupid for this world.
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>>108262878
That's retarded but I do think AI should be integrated into government systems. It would be very useful for data, imagine a system that tracks all the metrics collected by all the various government agencies and generates reports and charts based on the data.
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We will have AGI this year
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>>108277421
Yes, because the hundreds of data centers that will require the electricity and water of entire towns and cities each, will make it cheaper. One thing that I don't hear people talk about is how all these companies are operating on massive deficits and creating bigger and bigger operating costs for themselves. I would think that this shit will have to get more expensive one day if anything. I say, enjoy your ai porn and ai girlfriends while you can, because it will get prohibitively expensive one day when these companies have to actually start making money that isn't from investors.
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>>108277421
You still have to support the guy while he is unemployed. Is it cheaper for society with robots to make starving third worlders build a bridge or use robots? Robots cost less to run and build but it is still the villagers who are cheaper because if they won’t build the bridge you will still need to feed them or they will try to find another job. The only way it can be cheaper is if you make everyone poor or start doing genocide to reduce population.
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Looking at this logic puzzle, I'll analyze each clue systematically:
Clue 4: 7 3 8 - Nothing is correct
- Numbers 7, 3, and 8 are NOT in the code
Clue 5: 7 8 0 - One number is correct but wrongly placed
- Since 7 and 8 are eliminated, 0 must be in the code
- 0 is in position 3 here, but it's wrongly placed, so 0 is in position 1 or 2
Clue 1: 6 8 2 - One number is correct and well placed
- 8 is eliminated, so either 6 (position 1) or 2 (position 3) is correct and well placed
Clue 3: 2 0 6 - Two numbers are correct but wrongly placed
- Two of these three numbers are in the code but in wrong positions
- We know 0 is in the code. In this clue, 0 is in position 2
- Since it's wrongly placed here, 0 must be in position 1 (can't be position 3 from clue 5)
- Position 1 = 0
Now, from clue 3, since 0 is in position 1 in the actual code, and we need two correct numbers wrongly placed:
- If 6 were in the code, from clue 1 it would be in position 1, but position 1 is 0
- So 2 must be in the code and from clue 1, 2 is well placed in position 3
- **Position 3 = 2
Clue 2: 6 1 4 - One number is correct but wrongly placed
- 6 can't be in the code (positions 1 and 3 are taken)
- So either 1 or 4 is correct
- If 1 is correct and wrongly placed in position 2, it would need position 1 or 3, but both are taken
- So 4 must be correct and wrongly placed in position 3
- Therefore, 4 goes in position 2
The code is: 0 4 2
Let me verify:
- 6 8 2: 2 is correct and well placed (position 3)
- 6 1 4: 4 is correct but wrongly placed (in position 3, should be position 2)
- 2 0 6: 2 and 0 are correct but wrongly placed
- 7 3 8: Nothing is correct
- 7 8 0: 0 is correct but wrongly placed (in position 3, should be position 1)
Answer: 042
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The same way it happened with dotcom bubble, they will go bankrupt spending on all that infra first then surviving incumbents and new players buy up all that infra for cheap and make it financially viable moving forward.
Also economies of scale is a thing
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"And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people"
-Revelation 13:13
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>The headline: "The Most Advanced Models Are Failing Basic Logic Tests"
>The article: no logic tests
>The paper: no logic tests, just summaries of other people's papers dating back to 2022
>The appendix to the paper: "ChatGPT-3.5 Turbo achieves only 25.1% accuracy"
How will the AI companies ever recover from this embarrassing revelation?