>>108269678
Retards area cheaper.

>>108269678
Listeria.

For govt to keep all those jobless retards on life support is gonna cost more than dealing with minimal wage jobs. You can replace them with robots and machinery - that's fine, but what you gonna do with them later lol?

>>108269678
Didn't they try to put AI on the drive through ordering system and people were making it loop by ordering 7000 cups of water or shit like that?

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>>108269678
It's a fallacy
>Who cleans the machine
>Who puts the burger in the machine
>Who handles the delivery
>Who rebuilds the whole restaurant so a machine can actually do that all
>Who keeps niggers from vandalising and looting once they realise there isn't a single human there?

>>108269678
it would cause retards to crash out and be bad so we keep the bullshit jobs for a bit longer

>>108269694
Yeah but last I checked, places still use it.

>>108269701
>Who cleans the machine
the toilet brush robot

>>108269701
That, but there's also an entire dynamic around it.

>people get replaced by machines for job X
>suddenly they flood job Y with applicants, making it even cheaper to hire for Y
>You could replace Y too, but there's so much cheap labor that you can just keep using people... for now

Until there's a revolt and looting in the streets, there will just be a downwards spiral as people displaced from one job, would flock to another, dropping its worth down.

robots and automation are great for doing same thing 24/7 hundreds of thousands of times a day

so if you want to automate a premade food factory and ship that frozen across the globe thats a good idea

Fast food isnt that exactly. You either have traditional machines that now produce hundreds of same thing a day and need maintenance by a human, or you have fully realized automatons that replicate every movement a human can make.

>>108269690
The elites call us useless eaters. They've gotten so full of ego that they don't even consider themselves as the same species, and are likely plan to eliminate us after we help them to figure out enough to just let them live off of machines. They'll probably save a few for some hedonistic freak shit. Hopefully they manage to generally poison this rock before then so I can smile at their idiot fates.

>>108269718
Can it still be stunlocked like that?

>>108269678
Because we automate the lucrative, well paying jobs first.
Slave labor is the last thing to get automated.

>>108269678
fast food restaurants serve as a humiliation ritual for tech workers. If they become too expensive, outsource their jobs to India and make them flip burgers

>>108269678
But what about all the immigrants?

>>108269678
About 45% of Americans work in the fast-food industry. Even if that's what AI companies want, firing all these people at once would make the situation complicated.

Only people who've never had a remotely physical job think robots could replace humans. We're centuries away from that.

I worked at mcdonalds during university and met my gf there, who still works there now.

they got a refurb last year and got the latest automated drinks machine in

it cost a stupid amount of money (I forget) and is a piece of shit that breaks frequently, gets cups stuck, and is slower than the guy doing it before for minimum wage as it can only pour one at a time (??). it takes up more floor space than a traditional tower, and you can't scale its output without buying another one.

As it is more complex theyre told not to touch much in maintenance, and the store has to pay for to the expensive outsourcing company every time vs again a minimum wage employee (for anything that doesnt require part replacement or etc).

this is the latest and greatest and its still a piece of shit, this kind of automation for food seems to be in its infancy and surely the drinks machine is the simplest in the store to automate. Its not like it even saves money on wages as you still need someone to babysit it, puts lids on and lift the drinks to the right place vs someone just doing the station themselves.

>>108272469
it's shit on purpose to sell the maintenance contracts though so not like it's the best we could actually do

>>108272469
>As it is more complex theyre told not to touch much in maintenance, and the store has to pay for to the expensive outsourcing company every time vs again a minimum wage employee (for anything that doesnt require part replacement or etc).
i thought congress fixed this issue because of how bad the ice cream machines were

>>108269678
Automation is coming, its just the fact that the transition from wagies to robots takes time and money. I expect most big stores to be automated in the next 5-7 years

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>>108273189
CLEAN IT UP, WAGIE

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>>108269678
Because robotics (and the world models they require) haven't advanced as quickly as language models have.
It'll happen eventually, but for now physical jobs are safer than office ones.

>>108269678
>we

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>>108269678
McDonald's has more locations now than it had ten years ago but only 1/3rd as many employees as they had back then (445k then, 150k now). Automation isn't about 100% replacement of humans, it's about using as few of them as makes economic sense to replace with expensive machines.

>>108269701
>isn't a single human there
I don't think anyone aims for zero humans.
But they can probably do the same thing with 2 people instead of 12.
Any repetitive job can in principle be automated.

>>108273198
whenever i see this retarded fag robot, it makes me want to shoplift and kick it over.

>>108273804
Do you see them in the wild?
I always assumed only a handful exist and they get posted on the internet over and over again.

>>108269694
Rallys still does and the second you try to order a shake with a meal that only includes a drink it loses it's shit. You think a burger and ice cream place would have thought that through.

>>108273843
Saw it at a regional grocery store a few times. was very bizarre. the one i saw was called "badger robot". looked like such a piece of crap up close.

>>108273873
They clearly did no user testing to see how actual customers would attempt to use the product

>>108272069
Most humans I know don't work during their job at all, let alone can they compete.

>>108269678
If AI made a burger it would cost $1500

>>108274028
You can get away with slacking off in many office jobs but it's a lot harder to do that for physical jobs.

>>108269679
>Retards area cheaper.
this.
Much of the fast food is still incredibly automated compared to even 50-60 years ago. However, even though the AI can reasonably replace humans doing white collar work, at best you can get 2 people to do what it took 8, or have people train faster - but only if there is a real need for more hands-on work. You just can't do the same level of automation with physical labor yet. LLMs are great at helping with intellectual work but they simply aren't designed to navigate in a 3D universe yet. Look up old lectures on AI from two decades ago or even beyond - it's a monumental task to create a fully autonomous 3D bot. We still need a person to make sure shit is working.

>>108272482
Correct. It's the John Deere model. Proprietary everything to lock in maintenance at ridiculous prices. This is also why robotics will never happen, they'll make it all proprietary for repair while data mining the shit out of everything in your life. IoT failed for the same reason, too much greed between too many competitors.

Greed fucks everything up forever.

>>108269678
Ai is for doing stuff that's unexpected, not something you want done the same way a billion times

>>108274400
yeah like deleting shit you didn't ask it to delete. great innovation, retards.

>>108269678
Because the AI won't feel humiliated doing it, next question

>>108273803
>I don't think anyone aims for zero humans.
You need to seriously get out of your basement.

>>108269678
Operating in the physical world is harder than inside a computer. Funny enough its easier to replace high IQ jobs with AI than low IQ jobs.

>>108269718
They have an employee takeover if it messes up

>>108269678
i worked at mcdonalds, the entire store is already automated the workers just move product around and unjam things once in a while. I spent more time running to the freezer than i did actually cooking

>>108269690
>For govt to keep all those jobless retards on life support
You've never held a job in your life. Fast food chains aren't owned by the government, either.
What a dumb, ugly piece of shit you are.

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>>108269701
>Who keeps niggers from vandalising and looting once they realise there isn't a single human there?

>>108276287
It sucks to have an IQ of 124. Real geniuses still have things to do, but I'm not one of them.

>>108273758
>economic sense
What the fuck is economic sense? Why is my big mac costing $8 now when I used to buy it for $3.50? There are less cows in the world now?

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>>108274341
>it's a monumental task to create a fully autonomous 3D bot
you're delusional if you think that's still true. there's essentially ready-to-use, open source platforms for indoor robotics. the only real deterrent to mass adoption right now is cost.
"le ebin androids" are still expensive to build and don't have generalized human-like skills. you still have to manually train them for individual "skills" like picking up an apple and picking up a mug.

>>108269719
who cleans the toilet brush robot

the poopjeet hordes need jobs

>>108277893
the toilet brush robot has been programmed to only clean robots that do not clean themselves

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>>108277892
I don't think it's just cost. Even cheap robots like the chink ones still don't have the fine-grained motor skills to practically be useful for much right now https://epoch.ai/blog/where-autonomy-works-evaluating-robot-capabilities-in-2026

There's still a lot of progress, and some of that will compound with all the programming being slopped up by agents these days. But still seems like a research problem rather than just a scaling problem for at least the next few months.

>>108277939
that blog spam and graphic are way outdated lmao, china for years has had all of those things as production deployment.

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McDonald's here in Sweden no longer have any normal service. You don't see employees except the poor fuck who puts your order at the pick-up desk.
Everything is done via screens, no manager on site, AI stuff and crap.
Just a question of time before the cooks are also replaced.

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>>108277972
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>>108278020
this is just loser video game propaganda that people post because they think it does something and it makes them feel like they had some impact, reality is that posting that stuff has never impacted a single chinese person in existence.

>>108277999
>Everything is done via screens, no manager on site,
And who do you complain to when your order got mixed up?

>>108278047
That's the neat part, you don't. Unless you want to go up to the desk, wait 30-35 minutes for someone to realize you are there, ignore you and then tell you to call customer services.

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But how does the robot get out without breaking all the eggs?

>>108277999
>touch screen is now "AI"
I hate this gay world.

>>108278116
>walk into electronics store
>everything has "AI" on the box
Brave new world.

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ai-powered retarding chamber

>>108277999
>>108278116
IIRC mcdongles is using "AI" to monitor the kitchen employees specifically. one of the papers i read, granted that was over a year ago, was talking about "motor inefficiencies" in the kitchen. read: they're trying to standardize wagie movements to generate more profit
not sure if that's what the pic op posted is about tho

>>108277824
>"worked"
shut the fuck up wagie

>>108278064
In my experience the service has improved dramatically with the new self service terminals.
Before you had to stand in a queue just to find someone to speak to and it was usually a poorly trained teenager.
Now there is a dedicated desk that's usually free and if you go there a senior staff of manager gets to you very fast.

>>108277882
>Why is my big mac costing $8 now when I used to buy it for $3.50?
Because your $ is worth less today than it was worth yesterday.
Go back to the 1950's and a burger would be like 20 cents.

>>108277882
Yes, actually. Were you asleep through all of the suspicious food processing plant fires and farm culls? "Economic sense" is also about spending the least amount of money while making the most profit possible, which is why the cost increases for you, the buyer.

>>108277865
They seal the building and have an armored roof access port for automated ariel inventory delivery delivery at my local mcdonalds. Only the bathroom is accessible and is also automated.

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>fast food industry won't be automate-
Oh shit...

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>>108278754
>ai generated garbage about making undercooked burgers