>>108273497
3) Bashful politicians will go "Gee wilickers, I guess we should have hired evil crypto bros to make this unhackable" and they will. It will rely on a crypto certificate issued by the state and stored on your TPM module. With a transport layer in place (the one you don't support because you're such a brilliant Linux user) web sites that require digital ID will now ONLY be able to accessed using operating systems which support it.
4) More and more web sites and apps will require digital ID. Government services, banking, employment, etc. Someone will note that this verification crap gets in the way of using computers in a lab, but they have a solution for this.
5) Not only online services, but ANY form of authentication will require digital ID. Making purchases, using the library or lab computer, driving your car, entering your house. How convenient! Brave New World predicted tyranny via convenience, and we will have it!
6) Now that you literally can't live without Digital ID, it will be weaponized. Say something the powers that be don't like? God forbid, DO something they don't like? Welp, I guess it's time to lower your social credit and limit what you can use your digital ID for. Your travel will be limited. Your purchases. What online services are available. They have six ways to Sunday to fuck you over, and you will comply or starve.

>>108273498
I don't have any solutions, but I will point out that both red and blue states are already implementing this. If you could get one to pass laws outlawing it, that would be a nice first step, but I doubt so long the 17th amendment exists that we can do shit. The reason is the trillions that REQUIRE digital ID and soon:
Data scrapers need to know which posts are from fleshbags
AI needs to know what data is from fleshbags
Advertisers need to know what ad clicks are from fleshbags
Government contrators are going to make bank implementing authentication portals.
Financial industry contractos, also.
There is SO MUCH MONEY invested in this shit ALREADY and you fools are talking about Linux like your non-digital ID supporting OS will be useful for anything beyond a step motor controller.
Enjoy your digital freedom, or what's left of it, while you can. This shit is coming and it's just about over for us fleshbags.

>>108273503
Oh, I forgot to mention, there is ONE pressure group I know of actually suing the government over this shit. One and only one that I know of:
https://netchoice.org/

>>108273503
>AI needs to know what data is from fleshbags
>Advertisers need to know what ad clicks are from fleshbags
Good points. This goes in tandem with social media requiring post to declare if they’ve been neural-net-generated. The tech companies want to shove AI down our throats but still need to differentiate us from the AI itself.

>>108273497
>2) Dumb goyim are conditioned to enter their DOB for porn sites, Discord,
since i was young, i was always born on 1/1/1991

lets be honest all of these system are to be bypassed.

>>108273532
You're being dishonest with yourself. You will be issued a digital certificate and if you don't use that as your credential you don't get in. Period.

>>108273539
those will get leaked and hacked.

>they/them are mad they won't be able to groom children on Roblox anymore

>>108273541
Wow, you must be a dumb nocoder. You can't hack such a cert any more than with any other public key cert. Leaked? Leak, what, exactly? Shut up about things you don't understand, goycattle

>>108273551
ok, be aggressive. i do not think that the system will work as (((they))) predict it will, but you are free to fear about it.

>>108273559
>I believe. I have no knowledge about how digital signing works, but I BELIEVE!

>>108273568
i do not care. if the system is too unfun and not productive to use, people will just not use it. Windows for example is already a loser OS because normgroids just go for their phones.

>>108273580
DMV requires Digital ID
>I just don't drive
Banks require Digital ID
>I just won't use money
Food banks require Digital ID
>ACK!

>>108273591
we may be comming to a point where I take your post and literally run with it - if human society has nothing to offer you then why bother?

>>108273591
The Bible prepares us for this.

>>108273599
>I give up

>>108273602
there are more ways than one on giving up and yes.

>>108273498
>Not only online services, but ANY form of authentication will require digital ID. Making purchases, using the library or lab computer, driving your car, entering your house.
At that point, i will just move to a 3rd world country like how i escaped to Mexico during covid when they tried to mandate the vaccines.
There are islands out there where people are living without any form of ID. I will just take an early retirement on one of those islands.

>>108273503
Everything you wrote is well thought out and plausible, up until AI gets in the equation. Pre-AI, I would say you're 100% correct on everything. But AI is a major new curveball in ways you might not expect. To be more specific, AI might actually be the one thing that keeps any of this from happening. Why? Because AI will make humans obsolete, and if humans are obsolete, why control them or extract money from them? Hell, there's a strong argument to be made that AI will render money itself obsolete.
>Data scrapers need to know which posts are from fleshbags
Why? To make money from them? What do they need money for? To pay their AI?
>AI needs to know what data is from fleshbags
Up to a point. AI will eventually get trained enough and smart enough that further data from humans is not useful anymore.
>Advertisers need to know what ad clicks are from fleshbags
Again, why? To sell them things, in exchange for money? And then use the money for what? To pay their staff of androids? If services, manufacturing, entertainment are all provided by AI, what is the point of leashing billions of stinking, shitting apes and extracting fake currency from them?

Historically, all subjugation of the masses has been for the end goal of extracting economic value from them as efficiently as possible. If humans are no longer the preeminent producers of economic value on planet Earth, supplanted by artificial workers, subjugation itself becomes an obsolete practice. Yes, the elites will pursue subjugation for the next several years out of muscle memory, but eventually, they're going to realize they're using 180 IQ AI to control 100 IQ monkeys, and they'll look at their vast data centers and tracking data and say "Why the fuck are we doing this?"

>>108273655
AI is really dumb, though. It isn't intelligent in the slightest and barely good enough for automation

>>108273497
is it me or do the boards seem a lot slower now with the new captias? almost like there really were tons of bots posting

>>108273672
we need digital ID to clear this up!

>>108273672
it was not the bots. the board is slow because the whole subject field is suffering and the captcha change + the new israeli IP service makes people just not engage.

When i said in >>108273580
and >>108273610
that when a service / system is not fun people will not engage with it I meant the global system as much as 4chan - if a service / system is too much of a hassle it will drive people away. there are more than one to circumvent or ignore a system than just not participating with it.

>>108273497
well as the bible says
in the end times there will be the
mark of the beast
>>108273600
indeed

>>108273663
Yes, and as we all know, technology NEVER improves over time, right? "AI" (LLMs) today are already smarter than the average human (and allow me to remind you that the average human is a massive, useless dipshit). But regardless, if you want to solve literally every class-related problem humanity has ever faced, you should get on board with AI. Don't adopt some sour grapes anti-AI stance because you're seething about Altman and the other weird douchebags who happen to be spearheading it, or some other retarded reason.

>>108273497
>Digital
Use case? Analog tech is good enough for me.

>>108273787
are you gonna make yourself an analog drivers license and banking/payment system?

>>108273763
LLMs aren't intelligent at all. They construct words and pixels based on probabilities.

>>108273795
I use cash and drive an ebike.

>>108273498
If some TPM enforcement happens I'll beat the private key out of whoever knows it with a wrench

>>108273812
Why do these guys always look like bond villains

>>108273801
Can't refute that. I'm sure people will stop using them any day now, probably within 2 weeks

>>108273846
Yeah, I'm sure they'll be within swinging distance of said wrench

>>108273497
>why Linux won't save you
You're planning on stopping me fork that, how?

>I think it's important to point out that porn sites are ALREADY prompting visitors with age checks because they are MANDATED TO
I think it's important to point out that the number of places that issue me with such a challenge is incredibly low. The places that do tie this challenge to my credit card, which pretty defacto yields identity.

> but will be replaced with something "stronger" as it is revealed how easy the initial system is to circumvent.
This stops me forking it how, again?

>It will rely on a crypto certificate issued by the state and stored on your TPM module.
I don't have a TPM module.
They going to be buying me one?

>4) More and more web sites and apps will require digital ID.
And anything that does not have a valid reason to obtain this, that asks you for it, should be instantly avoided for the rest of eternity so it can wither and die like it should.
The issues you seem to be concerned about only become possible if you allow them to.

>Government services, banking, employment, etc.
You use any banking, government service, or employment, proving you are who you day you are isn't something new. You've been doing this for a long time now. To do this online they are storing this information digitally.

>Someone will note that this verification crap gets in the way of using computers in a lab, but they have a solution for this.
Verification was a solved problem decades hence. Same with authentication.

>5) Not only online services, but ANY form of authentication will require digital ID.
Most things that challenge for identity utilise digital records at some point. Most commonly drivers licence.
All these things already exist. Is possibly what scares you so the consolidation and centralisation??

>it will be weaponized.
If you manage to evidence that capacity is lacking currently, you might just have a point.

>Say something the powers that be don't like? God forbid, DO something they don't like? Welp
Case in point. Look at anthropic.

>Your travel will be limited.
There isn't a no fly list already? That people have got onto just for being journo... And less.

>Your purchases.
Cunts like visa and paypal don't pick and choose which transactions they'll uphold based on their dislike for a client or merchant?

>What online services are available.
That list really won't fit into this textbox.

>They have six ways to Sunday to fuck you over, and you will comply or starve.
Evidence this is not currently the case, and you might just have a point.

>>108273503
>your non-digital ID supporting OS will be useful for anything beyond a step motor controller.
Who said it wouldn't 'support' it?
I just said I'd fork it and fuck it.

>useful for anything beyond a step motor controller.
Whilst your shit gets more steadily locked down. I continue using what I've paid for.

>and it's just about over for us fleshbags.
Is for you. Because of your long proven history of bending over and taking it.

>>108273541
>those will get leaked and hacked.
IF you was issue each citizen with a passport, there's 4 blank pages in there. One can hold an x.509 private key, which'll only unlock from user-set passphrase. Another can hold the public key, which is global read.
Extracting the private key will require both posession and knowledge.

You could feasibly populate the other page with various flags to indicate things like posession of a driving license, and or what catagories, and other such certifications...

And anything that doesn't actually require to obtain this information that actually asks for it is to be instantly disused.

That's how you kick this shit in the dick.
Stop playing their game.

Boo hoo you'll lose facebook, tw@r, and a few other things you stupid cunts would be better off without anyway.

>>108273857
Fiction parodies reality.

>>108273904
Wow, talk about NOT GETTING IT!
How you take their word in terms of what problems they're trying to solve is breathtakingly autistic. No shit authentication has been solved. That's not the point. No shit we already have forms of ID; the point is requiring a single credential for everything, and no, they won't ask your permission to implement it.
You're absolutely free to make your own distro and install it on whatever hardware you want, but it won't be able to access services on the internet or anywhere else.
For God's sake, stop listening to the politicians and propagandists and THINK! If you come to the conclusion that this is all dumb and dumb stuff will fail, you will absolutely lose. The whole point of the legislation is to create turn-key tyranny. They create the option of digital ID so that they can make it mandatory. Nobody is going to ask the plebs their permission any more than they did in India.

im sure mac and windows will comply which also means redhat will follow like the good bitch it is for pissrael

>>108273980
Corporate distros will be tripping over themselves to implement it

>>108273958
>How you take their word in terms of what problems they're trying to solve is breathtakingly autistic
I am breathtakingly autistic anon. Good of you to notice.
But what makes you think I'm prepared to belive entities with long histories of dishonesty and devious intent? Do I look as stupid as you sound?

Which part of "fork it and fuck it" strikes you as untenable, precisely?

>is requiring a single credential for everything
For a lot of things that makes sense. You don't need 30 different things to interact with 30 parts of the .gov. They fucked up the initial implimentation.

Anything that doesn't legitimately warrant this information can get fucked. It won't be happening. Well. Not here at least. But you have long proven history of bending over and taking it so you'll be first in line.

Anything that doesn't legitimately warrant this information that requests it will be dropped like it's f'kin nuclear waste.
The consequences of this will be literally zero.
None.
If I should feel strongly enough that the absence of this service is detrimental then *I* will put it back. Because I can. And I have a lifetime of proven history of being unstoppable.

>but it won't be able to access services on the internet or anywhere else.
What do you imagine me to lose, anon?
.

>>108273958

>For God's sake, stop listening to the politicians and propagandists
Just because you suffer this disability doesn't mean everyone you encounter will. It's common I'll grant you, but you're talking to someone who regular repeats to others: It is only when the last priest has been strangled with the entrails of the last politician will mankind know peace.
Incidently, I feel your best course of action, beyond enacting an actual democracy and stop allowing other people to make your decisions for you - is to put the current base up against the wall and execute them all - let their god decide - make the next set of budding wannabe witness. Tell them: Do not dissapoint.

>and THINK!
Your own advice will be apt to follow.

>this is all dumb and dumb stuff will fail, you will absolutely lose
What do you imagine me to lose, anon?

>is to create turn-key tyranny
Evidence this capacity is not currently available and you might just have a point.

>Nobody is going to ask the plebs their permission any more than they did in India.
Here's the thing, anon. They can't actually make you. Unless you decide to bend over and take it

>>108274006
Anything open source will fork their hard work, and dev will switch there, if that's what folk want.

>>108274033
Fork, what? The entire economy?
The entire point is they control your digital ID. You don't. All you can do is decide whether to starve or not.

>>108274050
>The entire point is they control your digital ID. You don't
Evidence they are not already in control of your ID digital or otherwise, and you might just have a point.

>All you can do is decide whether to starve or not.
Large piles of cash say otherwise.
Even larger piles of easily traded comodities and goods even more so.
Good luck stopping bitcoin.

That's assuming I don't just take it because I know they can't actually stop me.

>>108273602
I'll fuck, and kill. and eat!

>>108274101
Knowing you, the same thing.
The only question, is in which order...

>>108273497
Cool story, bro. Now take your meds.

>>108274066
>Good luck stopping bitcoin
Don't brokers and exchanges already implement digital ID systems

>>108273497
>>108273498
>>108273503
All of this sounds like a net good, though. The only people it will hurt are undesirables. Us Trump supporters will only benefit. You are a Communist.

>>108274224
Jews rape kids

>>108273503
>I don't have any solutions
Kill al the jews and their puppets, that is the solution and that is what Iran is doing right now

>>108274243
These measures are designed to prevent this from happening, retard. If we want to stop crime we have to know when and where it is happening. Surveillance and judicious action by law enforcement ensure crimes do not get committed. It is Liberals like you who stand in the way of doing what needs to be done for a Safe and Just society to flourish.

>>108274266
>Trust the government
Nothing ever bad came from that

>>108274205
>Don't brokers and exchanges
Now evidence I require to use an exchange.
Also. Evidence I don't have a broker in my pocket, that I know personally...

But yeah. Should I want or need to convert this to fiat, and for some reason my guy comes up short.

>>108274224
>Us Trump supporters will only benefit.
As evidenced by the continual and accelerating decline of everything he touches?

>You are a Communist.
Can you point on the doll where the cold war hurt you?
Communism doesn't gotta be a bad thing, anon. You use communistic things all the time. Like roads. Are roads bad, anon?

>>108274266
>These measures are designed to prevent this from happening, retard.
And under what mechanism to you falsely believe this to operate?

>Surveillance and judicious action by law enforcement ensure crimes do not get committed.
As evidenced by peristent surveillance?
I'll grant the judicious action is a little on the pick and choose. But crime happens all the time anon.
The best bit? What qualifies as a crime can and does adjust over time.

>a Safe and Just society
Evidence either o those is plausible outcome. I don't need both, just one will do. You can decide which I'll smash with proven history.

>>108273497
This is simple to work around. Buy some piece of shit normgroid phone running ios or jewgle play services and do all of your normie stuff on it where you're fully ID'd. Do everything else on your actual devices. Yes, you won't be able to mix the two and you will be locked out of most of the web using a non-verified device but there will still be some accessible sites. It might even end up being like the old internet again. Goycattle shephered into Facebook, TikTok etc and and the intelligent few on the freeweb

>>108274376
I fail to see how this is a work-around

>>108274381
I fail to see how you cannot understand that if something actually has value then someone like me will make it happen.

And we are unstoppable. After all. We're all alike.

>>108274381
It's simple. You use the normie device for basic shit you don't care about being tracked. Banking, shopping, accessing government services, etc. That shit isn't private anyways. Do everything else on your non ID'd devices and just accept you will be more limited in what you can access.

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>>108273497
Nigga I ain't reading all that

>>108273497
Yeah I am currently banking on them not having the infrastructure to realize and host a system like that both worldwide and realtime (tho realistically even the west would cost too much constant compute) and if its not realtime it just doesnt work for their purposes
Thats why they're building the datacenters, somethings gotta run skynet
Laws like this are just preparation for when they want that thing turned on

>>108274663
>Laws like this are just preparation for when they want that thing turned on
Of course! It will be turn-key tyranny

>>108274673
>It will be turn-key tyranny
Now evidence this isn't currently in place and you might, *just might* have a point.

>>108273497
Christians will shit bricks calling it the "Mark of the Beast"

mind providing a tl:dr and what the point of the post was

>>108276514
Are they wrong?

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only a matter of time

>>108273497
This is when I unplug from everything.
Even if it kills me, I will not submit to this.

>>108273497
2 more weeks, i'm sure of it this time.

>>108277105
>This is when I unplug from everything.
I suggest you start now.

>I will not submit to this.
I posit you are simply full of shit. Posturing.
Your actions have spent the last decade proving the opposite. Which is why the potential restriction from these services actually matters to you.

I would just build them if they mattered. I don't use them now because they don't.