>>108284969
Gestures are just faster. But both are great, it's a prefference thing, use whichever works for you.

Swipe is comfy, but it also breaks a lot of apps that use smallish corner swipe gestures or precision controls.

>>108284969
Buttons are for tech-illiterate boomers

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>>108284969
Gestures, all the way.

I like swiping but this faggotty poco only lets you use gestures with its own launcher

>>108284969
dedicated buttons(like Mi A1) > buttons > powergap > sucking cock > gestures
there was never any debate
>ip range banned
fuck off nignogs

>>108285000
BASED BASED BASED.

Swipe always sucks. Even on Desktop.

>>108284969
prefer gestures, but don't mind either

>>108284969
> i don't know what's most comfortable for me
> if i'm not swiping, my phone is too old to be cool

>>108284979
i have a 21:9 screen ratio phone and never had any trouble with misinput gestures

>>108284969
I want my physical buttons back

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>>108285265
i'm probably gonna get one

>>108285265
You will just give another excuse to use the 1000th candy bar phone

if the buttons are imaginary anyways i might as well get rid of them (and the gesture line while I'm at it), but i would prefer physical buttons

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>>108284982
> bussin fortnight fr no cap on god fn fr fr
Pic related

>>108284969
Just let the user have a choice.
I prefer buttons but on transparent background, not on a black bar.
It seems that on iPads you don't have a choice though, you have to use gesture because fuck you, or maybe I was too retarded to find that setting.

>>108284969
I don't use phones

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I use the superior swipe-from-bottom gestures, which are much more accurate.

>>108285756
>want to go back
>get arthritis from the awkward gesture

>>108285777
Somehow the regular gesture is easier? The regular gesture requires an even more awkward angle with your thumb.

At least with bottom swipe you get all 3 gestures from a single angle, the bottom, where your thumb is likely already positioned for the thumbprint reader.

To each their own, but i'll stick with bottom swipe gestures as long as they let me.

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>>108285799
the regular gesture is to swipe at any place on either side, of course it's easier

>>108285809
I play too many games where it just gets in the way.

>>108284969
Buttons. Gestures are for homosexuals.

>>108285862
Buttons take up pixels

>>108285876
Set density to 480dp

>>108285903
That in no way negates the buttons taking up pixels.

>>108284982
I'm 23 and could never get into gestures.

>>108284969
neither, they are retarded, completly invisible and use something like Vivid ng allowing you to set your own zones and gestures.

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Palm Pre got it right back in 2009 and then Apple rightfully stole the concept for the iPhone X.

At this point I got used to gestures, it's just older phones sucked fucking dick with it

>>108284969
Physical buttons > 2-button layout with gestures > 3 button layout > gestures

>>108285271
I have touchscreen keyboard fatigue

>>108284969
I didn't know gestures were a thing
is having three buttons really that much of a burden?

>>108284969
Buttons are 100x better. Gestures will activate by accident all the time because of scrolling around websites. I wish I could turn all gestures off on my phone.

>>108287248
For some bigger phones reaching the other bottom side of the phone (for the button) with one hand can be difficult, while gestures work both side. It's "comfier" but somewhat slower and can interfere with some apps that work similar way.

>>108285993
just watch a tutorial like i did
I like how the back button can be anywhere I'd like.

>>108285756
The only option that makes sense.

>>108284969
gestures are gay
give me buttons

always having a global back button is superior to gestures

>>108284969
I used to use button back when I was using an android but I switched to an iPhone last September and gestures are fine and much better on it then when I tried them on android
HOWEVER my biggest gripe with it is there's no back gesture unlike android and that's really annoying

>>108287453
I tried for a month before I gave up, then I got a Mi A1 because it was the cheapest phone near me that could I could install Lineage into and it has actual buttons

>>108284969
Switched to swipe gestures + a swipe gesture launcher, just like my tinker tranny linux desktop setup. It's clean, no distraction and only the things that I """need""" are binded.

>>108284969
I use buttons but I have them hidden/made them invissible because I am paranoid about oled burn in

>>108287523
fair enough

>>108287653
AFAIK many modern phones slowly shift unchanging UI elements around to minimize burn in

I can only use buttons and even then only barely. Phones have awful interfaces and I want physical buttons back.

>>108284969
I don't know which gesture does what, so I always roll button

>>108287523
That sounds pretty good. How is it for basic browsing/manga reading? Any lagginess?

Gestures are just limiting your speed.

>>108284969
Greatly prefer gestures.

>>108284969
I use lmt pie gestures.

>>108287973
I've shitposted here using it when I was too sick to get out of bed and it was fine. No clue about manga, I use a Kindle for that. Outside those two, Telegram, Maps (I get the irony of using Maps on Lineage, but this is the one time where telemetry works in favor of the user) and Steam Link all work fine

gestures, though doing the back gesture with certain screen protectors sucks since you can feel the edge sometimes

>>108284969
Im gonna try gestures for a few days because of this post

>>108284969
It's literally a matter of what you get used to, I personally got into gestures, despite being used to buttons, because I prefereed the aesthetic and having more vertical space, and I got used to it so now I like it.

>>108289504
>because I prefereed the aesthetic and having more vertical space
Which is where >>108285756 is the best middle ground.

No screen space taken up with buttons, while maintaining the 3 button's simplicity.

>>108284969
Physical buttons. The removal of bezels was absolutely retarded. The removal of physical buttons was deleterious to usage. The stupid camera cutouts are an eyesore.

>>108285756
that's just physical buttons with extra steps and worse tactile feedback

>>108289556
except it doesn't take up any space on-screen, unlike normal software buttons.

If I could have physical buttons i would, but that doesn't exist anymore, so I'm going with the next best thing.

>>108289563
>unlike normal software buttons.
>>108289556
>that's just physical buttons
I was talking about physical buttons dude yeah not sure why you got confused

>>108289647
I didn't did you read my post or did you see "software" and instantly sperg out like an autistic retard?


> If I could have physical buttons i would, but that doesn't exist anymore, so I'm going with the next best thing.


Wow, that was so hard to keep reading. Maybe if you bothered, you wouldn't have made yourself look quite as retarded as you have.

>>108284969
What debate? Gestures suck. They're not precise.

>>108285756
i do something similar, except i swipe up from the bottom to access my buttons. best of both worlds
https://litter.catbox.moe/jac7q2f0dnyadzro.mp4

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I much prefer buttons, and I also switch them around so that the 'back' button is on the left. It just makes sense to me.

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I used to have one with 3 physical buttons, can't remember what it was called

>>108284969
I use buttons, fuck gestures. I miss when phones had hardware keys, even

>>108291237
I used to have a phone with neutral buttons (circle in the middle and a dot on each side) so you could invert or remap them to something else if you wanted. was pretty good

>>108284969
I like the look of the buttons (lineage 22/stock A15) but they're not worth the wasted screen space and are easier to accidentally press while typing

>>108284969
what debate? It's buttons.
Not even close. Android gestures are fucking cancer, half-assedly put to compete with iOS.

>>108291289
as someone who's used both, this is a skill issue
android's gestures are preferable imo

>>108284969
Buttons, it's the first thing I change. Gestures are fucking terrible. Not everything has to be the iphone. I have an ipad, the gesture based operation of the OS is annoying. Buttons are far easier. Especially the back button. I hate having to hunt for the fucking back button in each app since every app has it in a slightly different location. God forbid you get it wrong and hit the traffic light and it pops up. It's a train wreck.

>>108284969
When did they default to back button on the right anyway? I have used back button on the left since nexus 4. Your browser back button was always on the left and used to be massive in browsers

I have no fucking clue what swipe gestures even are.

>>108284969
Been using gestures ever since they required modding.

>>108284977
I'll pick convenience over speed any time.

>>108285876
That's just because mobile is cramped shit on a tiny pocketable screen.
Worst format to view stuff on ever.
Narrow viewport as a default screen aspect was the biggest mistake of the computing era
It's very unnatural and it forces shitty simplified UI choices and content to flow through that narrow space

So yea sure buttons take space because mobile SUCKS and will always suck unless we get proper holographic displays that expand to a desktop-size viewport

>>108291237
i used to have this exact phone

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>>108285000
>Mi A1
I had that phone.very based

i never liked the schwipt-schwopt mode, but on my current phone i kept accidentally pressing the buttons while typing, which pretty much forced me to become the huge schwipter faggot that i am today

>>108291487
M1 A1
THOUSAND MILES AN HOUR

>>108284969
I tried the swiping stuff and instantly could not use my phone. If they stop allowing me to use the three buttons I might stop using android.

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>>108284969
Pie controls for me

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>>108285271
Just waiting to see if OEM unlocked or not. I have their Jelly Star (haha tiny phone, everyone loves it) which has actually been amazing, love this lil bitch. They're providing a firmware upgrade from Android 13 to 16, but their "community" shit is all on social media so I haven't asked if that's going to remove the unlock. No point in me getting this new phone if I can't unlock these shits, especially in later android versions when Termix:API starts getting iffy (so I've read, IDGAF about new phones so I have no idea about non-rooted termux on anything above 13)

>>108291487
whoa, the thumbnail looked like Minecraft

>>108284982
>tech-illiterate
this is the majority of phone users. devs building for their own capability is common, especially for americans and western europeans who have no experience of how dumb he world is.

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>>108284984
This.
Really annoying that google won't add an option to hide it, custom roms have had it since day one, and I think lots of OEMs have added it as well.
Also really annoying when apps like firefox don't make the background transparent.

>>108284969
buttons are always better from user UX/UI perspective. you cannot have mystery meat navigation that's for retards who do not understand interfaces.

I like the swipe gestures but I think it's important that they always have the 3 button nav for accessibility purposes.

>>108284969
I had Motorola xt910. I liked that it had 4 buttons you can access at will no bullshit. Also it had dedicated menu button so you don't rely on some brain dead dev who hidden the options hamburger because he knows best.

>>108284969
I didn't even know this existed

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i miss it...

>>108285756
this + "one hand operation +"

>>108291546
What da heck

>>108290516
That's literally the most sensical placement for the back button. No idea why Samsung insists on using the opposite orientation.

>gestures on iPhone
>3-button navigation on Android
simple as

>>108284969
i prefer physical buttons but to answer your question buttons gestures are gay yo

>>108291546
>>108288040
Based pie users.

>>108285756
>>108287460
>>108289510
>>108294168
Wouldn't that conflict with a buch of shit

>>108298275
Such as?

Doesn't conflict with anything I do, and I have been using it for like a decade now.

>>108285838
Name 3

>>108298326
KOTOR
KOTOR 2
Rome Total War

>>108285756
this is what i use as a boomer
when the option is finally removed in some future phone i will never be as fast as i am now

>>108285756
This just shows that its bad design. The back button is on the right for a reason. When you hold your phone with your right hand its the easiest to reach without straining your hand. These new UI navigation designs are made by literal retards who dont know anything.

I tried using gestures but went back to buttons. I also have the back button on the left because my first ever android phone (Huawei Ideos X5) had it on the left and I'm so used to it that anything else fucks with my muscle memory.

>>108284969
Buttons + reversed

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>>108298326
kuroba ex. I still can't grab the scroll bar.

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>>108300909
This. Gestures are horrible

>>108284977
>Gestures are just faster.

I can confirm that

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>>108285271
>green texts

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>>108284969
Physical buttons.

>>108284969
Gestures are faster. I used to hate it, but after using it a while it grew on me. Though, I also use some tweaker app to disable the back swipe on the left side and also decreased the zone size on the right.

>>108285876
So what? Phones are bigger than ever and with taller 20/9 ratio vs 16/9 of the past.
You surely can spare some of the that screen estate for the navigation bar at bottom.

>>108302270
Why though?

This gives me the exact same function of software buttons, but without needing to actually have the button on-screen >>108285756

>>108301105
I can just fine, change the back sensitivity

>>108301688
that is how whatsapp looks retard

>>108301688
>>108303169
What ia wrong with it?

>>108284969
I'm a grownupso so I use gestures

>>108284979
Termux is the only one I have a problem with. Trying to open the session list without closing the app is tough lol

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>>108303169
>whatsapp

oh its an americlap

>>108284969
the android and IOS gestures have never worked as smoothly or reliably as the blackberry gestures for me, plus starting them off the screen on the chin of most large phones is less than comfortable now.
Nav Bar all the way.

>>108284969
gestures
intuitive and it just werx
buttons are for shutin uncs