The youtuber experiment saga has ended and everyone went back to the software that let them run the other software they needed

>>108289830
All my friends that were Linux users went back to Windows last month

>>108289830
>there are more people running steam on macos 26 than on arch and mint combined
loonix sisters...?

>>108289830
kek, another nail in the coffin to the "its because windows comes preinstalled!!!!"
people tried the os and saw half the shit they need doesnt just fucking work

>>108289830
Windows' enshitification will make sure Linux adoption will increase, over time. Give it time

oh for the love of g*d. i went back to windows to escape the flood of normalfags.

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>>108289830
It's obviously just a bad sample. Do you really think chinese users more than doubled in the last month? Going from 23% to 54%? Next month when they don't fuck up the sample, magically Linux will shoot back up.

>>108289830
when will you retards understand this survery isn't the total steam userbase and just a random sample that consent to being picked. It's literally public information faggot.

>>108289830
It's obviously the Chinese driving it up, since it went up by 52%

>>108289987
Exactly, and for most desktop tasks, especially gaming, there is zero benefit to using linux yet undeniable added inconvenience.

>>108290124
Baby's first introduction to statistics?

>>108289830
Steam survey random sampling instead of polling from the entire user pool has created unreliable results in all metrics for decades.

>>108290253
I used to work in data collection, doesn't take a genius to figure out opt in random sample numbers don't give you an accurate indication of growth or decline, especially when a lot of people switching to a certain os are doing so because of privacy reasons, and this is also assuming most people switching to linux are even using steam regularly in the first place. Data on other sites has always shown troonix market share around the same range/slowly increasing, but even the way they collect data isn't super accurate.

>>108290086
windows can rape the goyim every day if it wants and as long as it runs office adobe and anticheat it will be 95+% of the market

>>108289830
I want to know what happened with Windows 10 and 11. Did that many people really ditch Windows 11 and reinstall 10?

>>108290514
No, the new results are due to an insane amount of Chinese accounts getting onto Steam; I believe they are 55% of steam users now.

>>108289830
people downgraded from win11 to win10????

>>108290102
do you not realize you're one of them?

>>108290514
>>108290771
>>108290764
aha! did they pay for a license?

>>108290276
You are arguing whether Linux has 2% or 3% market share... Who the fuck cares? Obviously steam survey is not the perfect source of truth, but Linux is still niche and not used by people. Like the >>108290342
said. For all the Windows inconveniences you have many more Linux issue, many of which are not fixable. Like it's always funny to check the latest game releases. Marathon unplayable. Resident Evil: Requiem, unplayable on some hardware. It's classic tale, why would you think people want to deal with this?

>>108290780
Yes, but they paid almost nothing for it, Microsoft used to make Chinese only Windows at near free pricing to get them to use it and to prevent billion machine botnets from compromised copies of cracked windows. Apparently they can buy full licenses from taobao for 1 to 2 dollars.

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>>108289830
>Linux took a MASSIVE HIT in last Steam survey, literally lost 33% of market share.

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>>108290219
Is Steam counting those Chinese mega LAN centers again?
I remember a while back they had to stop counting them because the survey numbers were getting massively skewed

>>108289830
dont care just werks on my machine
its kinda boring ngl, i never have to troubleshoot anything

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>>108290868
>you cant play these shitty games nobody but sub 60IQ nigger cattle want to play on it so everyone on earth will choose microslop instead!!
ok bud

>>108291007
That's the kind of dissolution, I expected for Linux gamers.
> Game doesn't work
> Game is shit anyway
> I never wanted to play it anyway
Jokes aside, 95% of gamers want to play those (or any other) games and use an operating system that is suitable for the task. You screaming louder that they all are wrong will not make it true.

>>108290868
>It's classic tale, why would you think people want to deal with this?
i don't care what people want to or don't want to deal with, I was just calling op a retard for not knowing how steam survives work.

>>108291108
counter-strike, cyberpunk, atomic heart, etc. all work on my machine
i have yet to buy a game that does not run smoothly on linux
maybe it's a (You) problem

>>108291108
retards can just use windows for those games and shouldnt be trying to use linux, I'm not going to switch to windows because I cant play the latest moba slop because it's shit and morrowind works so why would I need windows

>>108290086
No, I don't think it will.
It's like I said before, Linux' strengths are also its weaknesses: there is no core Linux operating system, it's all bits and pieces made by different people and put together in a salad of programs.

Windows is always Windows.
MacOS is always MacOS.
Linux is... whatever packages you installed and there is millions of possible combinations.

this has to be a microslop shill thread since announcing win12 that nobody wants because it is subscription based and co-pilot everywhere.
always know who is trying to influence you, and why.

>>108291153
just target amd systems with systemd, wayland, gnu core utils, etc. and you will target 80% of gaymers

>>108291133
>maybe it's a (You) problem
>>108291137
See, the point here is that Windows just work. People can play what they want, without issues. I'm not saying that you cannot game on Linux. You can, but it's not the experience that 95% of gamers want. So, don't cry that Linux is not used more. It works for (You), but apparently doesn't work for others. Linux crowd needs to stop projecting their choices onto others.

I sympathize with the idea of not using Windows, but it's not feasible. You can always dual-boot, but I don't require gamers to know how to set it up or care for that matter.

>>108291153
Sounds like there is an opportunity to put together a distro that appeals to the masses.

>>108289830
>steam as in a gaming platform
>linux is expelling the literal mouth breathing retards
W... I mean - L oh no what are we going to do nux-sisters, we need to let Microsoft win this time.

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i'm a gatekeeper so this is a good thing for me. leenoox is already in 90% of servers worldwide why would i care if normalfaggots like it? it's never going away and thanks to valve and wine, linux gaming is pretty much solved in 2026. i don't need retards shitting it up

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>>108289830
What are the numbers like when you subtract the Zerg?

>>108289830
>not understanding basic statistics
seriously, log off the internet.

>>108292693
I dont care if you are nigger cattle ripe for the slaughter having all your data exfiltrated and your every movement watched by microslop to train copilot and dalle and by whatever tranny "game" and its kernel anticheat, I dont need to use windows and I hope as few strawman merchant schizophrenics like you as possible ever even know the word linux lmao
>>108294018
based and red pilled

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>>108290219
The yellow man is using the yellow man's OS with a micro kernel

>>108290975
Yes, they fucked up the sample. The stats will probably go back to normal this month.

>>108289830
And what date is this metric from? Can I have a link to validate?
>>108289987
Putting the bare minimum effort in is too hard for most sadly.

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>>108295623
Literally just google "steam hardware survey"
You can also easily see that the percentage of chinese pcs in this sample more than doubled and that's why all of the metrics shifted.

>>108295659
Jesus, shame you cant filter by language.

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Timmys face when there's more Linux Steam users than Epic Windows users.

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it was chinese new year

the millions of chink workers finally get some break and they spend it all in netcafes and buying nvidia gpus

the march stats are always fucked because of this

>>108293931
Yes, add it to the huge pile over there of thousands of other "Linux for the masses" distros.

>>108295623
Hiw is learning how to operate the console "bare minimum"?

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>>108289830
Microsoft is spinning up bot accounts to suppress linux.
This was their plan from the beginning with Copilot.
>Teach AI how to mimic real users
>Spin up infinite bot instances.
>OS “User” charts report 99% marketshare for windows.
>??????
>Profit.

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>>108289830
good.
normies deserve windows

>>108291153
Linux does have a defacto "core OS" it's just infested with conflicting interests.

>Windows 10 numbers go up
Lol

>>108294018
This, I'm incredibly happy with the state of things in linux right now and the very last thing we need is stupiding it up to bring in the masses.

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I tried using Arch a few months ago:
I still couldn’t wake it up properly because of shitty NVIDIA drivers. I tried like five different solutions - none of them worked.
Even the official Linux ports of the software I use are often broken or require some workarounds. Usually it’s just a couple of small things, but it’s a constant annoyance.
The loudness equalizer mutes youtube videos for a couple of seconds after unpausing. There’s probably a way to fix that, but I have no idea what I’m doing.
As far as I can tell, in KDE you have to mess with the cli or create a bunch of shortcuts to mount an ISO. On Windows, it's just integrated into the system.
A bunch of other minor annoyances adding up.

I realize that Arch is made for fucking around, but I highly doubt that everything would be magically fixed if I installed Ubuntu or some shit.

On the upside, I can mount a remote SFTP server and just open it in a file browser.

I’ll probably switch to Linux when Windows 10 becomes unusable, but for now I don’t see any reason to keep running into random bullshit when the IoT version works just fine.

>>108297916
sounds like you should stay on windows and subscribe for windows 12 cloud pc streaming

>>108297916
>couldn’t wake it up properly because of shitty NVIDIA drivers
Works on my (cachyos) machine. Not to dismiss your issue, sleep issues aren't rare unfortunately but they also aren't exclusive to linux. I had an issue on Windows where waking would sometimes precede a blue screen though I never figured out what was causing it. On linux the worst issue I've had is very occasionally the display not waking to the correct resolution, and power cycling the monitor fixes it.

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>>108297916
Easy ISO mounting has been a feature in Dolphin (KDEs default file manager) since August 2020. Just right click and select mount.

>>108297916
Also don't use ports, use different software. In the same way the 6 year old 3rd-worlder with 300 ping on a potato with a PS2 mouse still smoked you on your gaming rig, you can outshine wacom tablet adobe freaks with a mouse and krita/gimp. Just gotta practice, like anything else in this existence.

>>108289830
>Windows 11 -10%
>Windows 10 +12%
kek

>>108297956
Because of useless cunts like you "the year of Linux on the desktop" is a meme.

>>108298046
Hmm, I guess I haven't installed dolphin-plugins? I'll look into that next time.

>>108298070
I'm not even talking about Adobe crap. Just random free programs: xnview, imgbrd-grabber, etc.
imgbrd-grabber was crashing because of some random setting, for example.

>>108298018
>the display not waking to the correct resolution
That also happened. I have two monitors, so it makes it even worse. It was either:
one monitor doesn't turn on
neither of them turn on
both turn on, but one of the monitors has the incorrect resolution
And yeah, sometimes you can fix it with a script or by turning it off and on, but that doesn't mean it should be like that. I blame nvidia.

>>108293931
>these other standards are not standardized enough
>there are now +1 competing standards

>>108297669
And that is why it will always be niche unless extraneous circumstances force the issue. Linux is by definition a literal Mad Max, junkyard dog OS, cobbled together from components salvaged from the pile and constantly retested to ensure it still works for its given narrow purpose. When one wire melts and there aren't any more of this kind of wire to scavenge, someone has to get in there and use a metal toothpick as a substitute along with all the necessary glue and tape.

>>108298246
If you knew what was good for you, you would want it to stay a meme too.

>>108298261
Honestly we just need to break away from freedesktop and the Redhat ecosystem. An entirely new set of standards and software stack aimed specifically at a usable desktop.

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I understand now why /g/ always hates on it.
It's because it's one if not the only distros where everything JUST WERKS.

Linux just sucks

>>108299046
Did they ever re-enable video decoding on AMD GPUs? I went back to base Arch when they pulled that shit.
>>108299056
Tell your friends and enjoy your kernel anticheat mobas.

Try Linux after an entire year of it being shilled here

It's broken, but, krashes

Yeah I'll just AllStartBack and shutupwin10 my win 11 instead......

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>>108289830
>less normalfags on linux as they leave to go back to windows

>>108290764
What is the reason for their change in preference?

>>108298246
>I highly doubt that everything would be magically fixed if I installed Ubuntu or some shit
with fedora, it just werks.

>imgbrd-grabber was crashing because of some random setting, for example.

Should've used a flatpak instead of the TrannyUR

It's the bazzite effect. It happened to me.

>get hyped by /g/ for bazzite
>try it
>it's trash
>get back to windows
>forget linux as an alternative for gaming

>>108299046
>JUST WERKS
Until you use sudo pacman -Syyu

>>108289830
>literally lost 33% of market share
How much money did the linux company lose because of this?

>>108300016
It's probably just netcafé shit. I think they try to keep those out of the metrics, but there were some reporting issues last month. The fix probably broke the netcafé filtering. Might also just be chinese new year stuff. It'll probably return to normal for the march metrics.

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>>108300016
chinese new year, they get holidays and play games during it
no one's preferences are actually changing, linux is still growing even through the chinese noise

>>108297573
>>learning how to operate the console
>Linux has an issue
>Google issue
>the solution is either in the first few links or just straight up told to you by the search engine's AI
>copy paste the line of code into the console, press enter
>issue fixed
It's that easy 90% of the time, you don't actually need to learn how to use the console these days. Unfortunately, troubleshooting is a skill reserved for the 99th percentile of humanity, so they can't even do this much.

>>108299265
This. I was actually kind of pissed that Linux was suddenly becoming normie-central only after I finally got off my lazy ass and learned how to install and use it. Glad my luck isn't entirely godawful.

>>108301734
You are the normie you fear if you just switched to Linux.

>>108301674
Where did those numbers come from?

>>108290086
No, it won't. Normies will just go to macOS and use consoles for gaming.

>>108301746
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey
if you mean the methodology, it's just taking 82% of that 2% linux english speaker marketshare and dividing it by total amount of english speakers on steam

>>108301754
I thought steam was popularizing linux for gayming. Won't their upcoming console use a linux distro?

>>108301734
Why would you care? Is running a niche OS your whole personality? Oh wait, it is.

>>108302027
I don't think normies will use the Gaben cube or Steam Deck. They'll probably stick to Playstation and Nintendo.

>>108302876
maybe not yet, give it a few years
once arm proton is fully functional steam will turn phones into a pipeline for pcs

>>108302876
>I don't think normies will use the Gaben cube or Steam Deck.
How come. Steam is definitely within the normiesphere

>>108302876
Who do you think is buying steam decks? It's definitely not the /g/entlemen running Arch on a 5-10 year old thinkpad.

>>108289830
Yeh no wonder. There are just too many different distros of linux, and non of them “just works”. Why cant they all just come together and make one combined linux that works? Yes windows is shit, but nothing compared to all the stuff you need to do on linux.

>>108303822
what the fuck is your definition of just works? are you butthurt at the fact that you need to learn power user things to become a power user and that your jeetdows experience of navigating a bunch of old inconsistent menus doesn't carry over?

>>108294018
This. The less normalcattle that use it the better off off it and the corresponding communities are.
I want the NPCs, techlets, retards, and women to stay on windows where they belong.