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How do you respond without sounding mad?
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I close twitter.
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I legitimately thought his name was ebussy for months
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>>108296538
Rape his daughter without a condom
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>>108296538
>how do you respond to me, a totally irrelevant person doing irrelevant things. plz bump-reply to this bait while i prepare my self-made meme spam. thnx.
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>>108296560
It is, the op's screenshot is edited.
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he's immunized against all forms of critique
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Windows is chock full of telemetry and yet they seem to be making the most absolute dogshit decisions on developing the OS.
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>>108296592
i love this lil nigga like you wouldnt believe
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>>108296538
Based and microsoft pilled. The privacy freaks are useless dead ends anyways, they just take take take and never give anything back.
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>>108296583
kek
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>>108296612
Actually they seem to be chock full of cash, because they know better than you, and their system is the only game in town for any serious person.
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>>108296592
Unfathomably based
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>>108296592
>I don't even use gnome
based
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>>108296592
Lol
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>>108296560
You really thought his name was slang for ‘boy pussy’?
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>>108296538
He should add telemetry to every click and input on GNOME and make it proprietary while he's at it.
The Linux ecosystem would immediately improve drastically in response.
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>>108296592
He put y'all bitches in yo place, damn.
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>>108296667
Nigga, gnome's logo is literally a foot fetish.
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>>108296538
why would we have to "verify claims about use"?
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>>108296538
BUMPING THIS NEW EBUSSY GEM
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>>108296707
I think we’re going to be hearing “Mah preevacee!” for a very long time now.
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>>108296667
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>>108296538
Translate him from obscured English to easy to understand English.

Translation: "I am Emmanuele Bassi, keylogging the data of all my users is a good idea because it would help me verify their identity information."
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>>108296733
>builds a sophisticated digital mini surveillance state for the sole purpose of finding more features to remove
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usecase for preevacee?
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>>108296538
Actual answer here:
If you would cut every feature that >80% don't use, you would eventually cut something from everyone.
There isn't a perfect overlap.
So making design decisions based on such metrics would go badly. As we can see with Firefox and Windows.

Popularity can merely be used as a priority list:
>A is used by 80%
>B is used by 10%
>so i first implement A and care for B later
But this isn't worth the privacy implications.
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>>108296749
Unironically based. I think in Win11, Microsoft is looking for the most common workflows which have yet to receive Copilot enrichment.
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>>108296592
Calling someone pathological when you're kissing a stranger's ass on the internet is something the fuck else, bro. Narcissimp.
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>>108296926
Having any opinion whatsoever while having a lolipedo profile picture is actually what is the problem here.
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>>108296538
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB NI
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>>108296935
Absolutely, that goes without mentioning.
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>>108296538
The gnome guy is apparently using a dark pattern to analyze this problem. Why would you assume that just because some people are willing to go through the extra effort to outright disable a feature that everyone want the feature removed, or that even everyone disabling the feature necessarily wants it removed? How would telemetry data even tell you this?
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What makes you think privacy is a metric?
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>>108296749
>>builds a sophisticated digital mini surveillance state for the sole purpose of finding more features to remove
Uhh hello? Based department?
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>>108296538
Great way to give yourself out as an incompetent developer.
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>>108296749
Isn't the perfect software the one you have nothing else to remove?
Sounds based to me.
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>>108296538
>E. Bussy
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>>108296538
no, I'm not giving you free shit, malaysian. ask an llm for a response.
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>>108296538
Why is the front side of his beard shaved off? Why does his beard look like it hangs down off the bottom of his face. Make it make sense
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>>108296538
why do you need telemetry? don't you use your product too?
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>>108297007
thank you for your valuable feedback
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>>108296538
I like to hate him but he’s not wrong
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>>108299728
he is, though
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>>108296592
lol this guy reminds me of old school slashdot or whatever internet open source community was like.
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>>108296592
... we need more time guys
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I unironically respect him
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>>108299728
he's wrong about everything but I can't hate him because his replies have big dick energy
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I switched to KDE.
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>>108296612
>>108296853
Microsoft put the most common options from the right-click menu behind a second menu, I don't think they have a clue what they're doing with their telemetry
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>>108299892
Saar
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>>108299787
This
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>>108296538
I just laugh in Windows.

Win11Pro, btw.
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why is ebussy like this?
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Channers be malding.
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>>108296538
"You can't shoot me, that's violence" Ebussi said as I unloaded my Glock 22 into his cracka ass
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>>108296538
all that telemetry and software people still make all the software worse. Look at any modern application. He is a retard. Telemetry doesn't say anything about what people want. And they hear from actual people and do everything the opposite way. What retarded nonsense thinking is this?
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>>108296592
>i-I'm not mad!
Uh huh.
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>>108296592
is it just me or does his sentence not make grammatical sense
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>>108301661
and I mean ebussy's not the dude thats mad at him
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>>108296538
>hurrrr we want telemetry
You don't need telemetry to tell that a lot more than half the fucking retards who punish themselves by using GNOME as using Dash to Dock on GNOME. Ubuntu even enables that shit out-of-box. So why has GNOME not added an option for native dock in their shit DE? Because they don't really give a shit about the "user's opinion".

I wouldn't be surprised if there is telemetry and spyware in GNOME already. It's not like GNOMies of all people are smart enough to review the source code for that stuff. Just look at r/gnome these days. It is just vibe-coded slop after vibe-coded slop. Only a matter of time before this whole DE is just running of Claude Opus generated code. What a bunch of fucking retards.
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>>108296538
>>108296592
I would block him on the spot and move on, no hesitation, I don't deal with tards.
If I ever see his greasy unwashed face or his stupid opinions ever again, I would do everything in my power to reduce his influence over me and others.
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I suddenly and unironcally feel pretty great about using cinnamon now.
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>>108296612
>they seem to be making the most absolute dogshit decisions on developing the OS
You can have all the telemetry you want and more, but if the only feedback you use is how much your investors tell you to screw your customers, then it is for nothing.
And have something in mind, all the telemetry on windows isn't for improving the OS, is for selling your data for profit and putting customized ads in system applications.
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>>108296592
small world
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>>108296538
Usecase for responding?
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>>108301835
Cinnamon also uses GTK you retard
Ebussy pretty much owns GTK
He is writing all that code that Cinnamon uses
If you want to escape Ebussy then move to KDE, COSMIC or just use apps in your terminal
Budgie has plans to switch to Qt as well
Not sure what the fuck XFCE and MATE are planning
If there is anything worse than GNOME then it is downstream GTK slaves like Cinnamon and XFCE
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>>108302225
Cinnamon uses Gtk3 which is frozen. Retard
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>>108302244
ebussy wrote code for gtk3 too you blithering retard
you are just an ebussy bootlicker and you dont even know it
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>>108302244
>Cinnamon uses Gtk3 which is frozen. Retard
Yes, we know you are a retard. No, we don't sign our posts here.
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>>108296538
If the correlation between telemetry use and quality of the service wasn't fucking inverted I'd maybe buy that.
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I agree with him. I have never been categorically against telemetry. It depends what data is gathered and for what purpose.
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>>108296538
>MUH PREEVACEEEEE
Ok I'll use Windows if you feel that way
>NO ANYTHING BUT THAAAAAAT
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>>108296538
I would simply reply "The business model of GTK and the general Linux operating system currently hinges on 'mah preeveceee'. Without that you are a worse MacOS with increasingly more expensive hardware.

Of course ebussy is also the most fragile "human" in existence, if you made that reply to him he would instantly throw a shit fit and start a massive blocking spree.
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>>108296538
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>>108296749
>>108299719
the absolute use case of """"""""""""""""""""""""Free"""""""""""""""""""""""" software
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use case for bussy?
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>>108296538
i only know that guys face from g posts about him. i guess he's some l00nix guy? thats enough for him to be so far beneath me as to escape all other notice. i didn't even expand the thumbnail, i simply don't care.
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>>108296592
>If you don't know English then you not be on forum pages
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>>108296553
that's Mastodon though
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>>108302330
>I agree with him.
You shouldn't.
>I have never been categorically against telemetry.
You should.

Telemetry data isn't 'yours', that's why so many people want to escape it. It's data that belongs to another person that is now being taken from you for free.
And that telemetry can identify lots of things about you and your system which you would not tell anyone else, even close friends or relatives. It can tell you where you usually hover your mouse, where you would spend most of your time typing, which applications you have open the most, which GUI features you use the most (This is what the bussy is speaking of).

For a long time, Windows was logging telemetry on every keystroke you put into Windows 10 and this was proven through packet sniffing. A literal built-in keylogger that, through fuzzing, was found to be recording not the individual keys you were pressing, but how long it took you to make keystrokes, how long you held each key after a press, which applications these presses were going into, and how long it took for each key to be pressed after the previous key in a series. This was being used for their language prediction at the time in Cortana.

It took someone with a brain at Microshaft to realize that this could be used to make a side channel attack on literally any user. Just record their keystroke time and number and in which applications and you have the length of all their passwords and which keys were probably pressed. Then they took it out. Gnome, Canonical, none of these companies have your best interest in mind with telemetry, and they have the same data agreements that state once it leaves your PC, it becomes theirs and they can share it with whoever.
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>>108296667
I didn't even know what bussy was before 4chan
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>>108296538
>MS wants me to give up privacy
>ebussy wants me to give up privacy
>LTSC works
>footfetish doesn't
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>>108302381
If you don't like it, don't use it. GNOME is the most stable Linux DE because it is opinionated.
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>>108302426
That's emMANuele Bassi. AKA EBUSSY He is a project lead on the GNOME project and is responsible for coding most of GTK (The toolkit that Gnome uses) by hand himself.

He is known for:
>Holding his desktop environment literally 20 years or more back
>Begging the question whenever a new feature is requested behind tons of sarcasm
>NEVER Elaborating on anything, instead implying anyone who doesn't see things his way is automatically wrong and stupid
>Cutting useful features people have used for years because he, personally, doesn't use them

His famous quote is "Use case?" which is a classic way to beg the question about anything in a way to make the person who asks seem dumb. Use case for breathing? Use case for eating? Use case for computers? Use case for linux? Use case for walking? Use case for typing? Use case for working UI? Use case for 20 year old features? Use case for C? Use case for Rust? Everything requires explicit and detailed instructions as to exactly how you use it and why you want it, usually in the form of a 10 page thesis, of which he may just dismiss with "lol that's stupid, what are you, an idiot?" and close the PR.

So Edwardo BubbleBassi thus has become the icon of Linux everywhere as he is exactly the kind of person you would picture as being a Linux project maintainer. He is /g/ incarnate, and everything popular uses GNOME, Fedora uses it, Ubuntu uses it, all by default, so they're all at the whims of this one guy that most consider to be the most obnoxious person in open source today.

Honestly.
I think he's kinda based.
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>>108302482
Also because you can't do anything with it lmao anytime someone wants to do something, he cuts it out of the project and claims it's your fault for wanting it.

Remember when it took him years to acknowledge that people want dynamic window titles?
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>>108302225
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>>108302256
Yeah he was still sane when he wrote GTK3.
He hasn't made that mistake since.
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I just discovered someone forked GTK3 and MATE, has anyone seen this project before? it's called CAFE, the GTK3 fork is called CAFE toolkit or CTK:
https://github.com/cafe-desktop
It looks very promising if it could gain traction
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>>108302482
>If you don't like it, don't use it.
Don't worry, I don't. I just let normalfags try GNOME for ten minutes before switching back to Windows because it's made for the utterly blind and autistic
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>>108302586
I think the big thing now is to swap to Qt, which is more feature-rich, more backwards compatible, and isn't ran by blithering lunatics.

I mean I agree with the idea of forking GTK as far away from modern GNOME as possible, but that's ultimately not feasible for large projects. Especially if it's going to advertise itself as a drop-in replacement. The reason is that GNOME is extremely controlling of any and all forks and GTK even moreso. They have killed multiple attempts to keep GTK3 alive because they demand everyone uses GTK4, and the GNOME project has demonized people who take projects and try to make alternatives or continuations of them, like how XLibre is now "The Nazi Display Server".
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>>108299892
Yes, and if you right click nowadays, they’ve added “Ask Copilot about this file” on the primary right-click menu. Jeeting the thing up like crazy.
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>>108302500
i read your entire post and enjoyed it. i can see now that i was right all along to ignore this guy

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