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FAQ:
>How do I activate Windows?
HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
Usage: paste this into Powershell, run.

irm https://get.activated.win | iex

>and Office?
Same link, select Ohook option
You can also use Office.com if your needs are very minimal
or try OnlyOffice/LibreOffice and set it to save in MSOffice file formats

>What version should I install?
>W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
Binary identical to Enterprise except no MS Store or apps
Preinstalled with: Edge & Win32 system apps
10 years support on "IoT LTSC", 5 for "LTSC"
Manual version upgrades

>W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024
Same as W10 version except:
UI written in React Native aka JavaScript including: Start, Taskbar and Explorer that lags even on i9s
Use only if you fell for the 12th+ gen Intel meme and need the new CPU scheduler
Wait for IoT LTSC 2027 if you can

>Installing apps on LTSC
Use WinGet/Scoop or install MS Store in CMD with: wsreset -i

>W11 Home/Pro/Education/Enterprise/Enterprise IoT
Preinstalled with: Edge, Win32 system apps, MS Store, OneDrive, Weather, Movies, Music, Candy Crush, etc
Auto-reinstalls apps on feature updates
1.5-3 years support
Forced version upgrades

>ISOs:
Windows IoT LTSC https://pastebin.com/ywkasnhM
Windows https://pastebin.com/nUMgAr0b
Office https://pastebin.com/G8w5qu6z

>Should I debloat / build my own ISO?
If you need to ask, then no.
If you know what you're doing:
https://pastebin.com/S5VKBirt

>Portable programs & reinstall-proofing
https://pastebin.com/Zh7WSbJ2

>Useful programs (new installs, essentials, utilities, adobe, etc)
https://pastebin.com/hN8nnwns

>I miss Windows##
OpenShell/RetroBar/WinClassic/StartIsBack

>LTSC Install Guides
https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide
https://rentry.org/concisewin10
https://rentry.org/ltsc
https://rentry.org/fwtarchive

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Where Sophie?
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Hi everyone.
I got an XP license and managed to install it on laptop, I also put SP3 there.
I'm wondering how to update the certificates since I'm guessing it's why the computer doesn't connect to the wan.
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>>108511917
Use Legacy Update to get XP as updated as it will ever be.
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>>108511863
in my love dungeon
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>>108501843
There may be reasons as to why we have so many alternatives to Photos out there, including re-enabling the classic Windows 7/Vista version.

>>108499063
Disable Tamper Protection before attempting to disable Defender Realtime Scanner in Group Policy or with registry edits. It will stay disabled forever that way. I don't remember if they tried making it harder to disable in an update, so best take care of this on a new IoT LTSC install without updating at any point before disabling Defender.
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Is dual booting Linux and Windows worth it?
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>>108513107
I mean you can do it if you want. Just make sure that Windows has fast boot/hibernation disabled.
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>>108513107
I would rather run Windows in a virtual machine unless you are planning on doing something that a lot of your machine's power like gaming.
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that requires* a lot
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>>108513107
It's pretty quick/simple if you disable Secure Boot (or use something Ubuntu-based or Fedora) but if you want to use something like Arch with it then you need to firstly disable Secure Boot and install Arch over some freed up space from Windows, and then use sbctl to have the kernel/bootloader images signed so Secure Boot doesn't get pissy about it.
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Uninstalled this like 20 times last month, is the only way of getting rid of it by nuking Edge or what
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>>108514865
Why would you want to uninstall it? It's just a framework process bundle that controls how WinUI3 programs act/look. It would be in your task manager because you're currently running a WinUI3-built program somewhere.
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>>108515065
Idk I'm autistic and hate having my installed programs list populated by shit, uninstalling it changes nothing, it's just some retarded 8kb file waiting for something whenever Edge auto-updates. Guess I'll leave it be next time.
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>>108515223
It's because Edge is a WinUI3-built program.
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>>108511833
sex with shamiko
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>>108515626
She's not real. Stop being a loser and get a life.
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>>108511833
very cute thread :3
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>>108513107
That entirely depends on what you need it for. It's obviously very inconvenient if you must switch from one to the other frequently.
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I love Windows!
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is the open source set of scripts in the OP the way to go to disable automatic updates and tracking for win11 home edition?
It came preinstalled and I dont use it enough to switch to some other version but logging in means getting bombarded by shit. I just want the OS to do what i want instead of whenever it feels like at any given time.
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>>108521061
switch edition to education in mas and use gpedit
set telemetry to security
configure automatic updates to 2
display options for update notifications to 2

best way to non destructively disable updates
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2032 is getting closer
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What can I use to change the contents of context menu? Even on LTSC it's full of entries that are useless.
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>>108522959
Forgot to specify, but I mean the context menu when you right click on a file. When right clicking on desktop or in a catalog it's fine.
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>>108522959
>>108522965
You can do this by editing the registry. Have an LLM walk you through it.
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>>108522959
There's a pair of Nirsoft utilities that will allow you to manage the context menu entries, both the statically set in the registry (ShellMenuView) and the dynamically added by shell extensions (ShellExView)
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How to fix start menu search showing blank for a minute before finally showing the results?

I know its waiting for some shitty online api response but how do I disable it?
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>>108523424
you can disable the web search aspect entirely. gpedit.msc > computer config > admin templates > windows components > search > do not allow web search/don't search the web or display web results in search (set both to enabled)
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>>108511833
Should I go with ltsc 10 instead of ltsc 11 while microsoft rewrites their interface in native code? I was wondering if you experienced compatibility problems with games since windows 10 EOL
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>>108524792
10 isn't EoL yet because of its extended security updates, which give it life until October 2028.
Running 10 22H2 with the ESU will allow you to stay on 10 and use most any modern program is currently the best way to stay on 10, while IoT LTSC 2021 gives you the five more years of updates but some programs are stubbon about wanting to be run on 22H2 instead of 21H2. Going with 2024 gives you updates until 2035 while having an 11 base which means any modern program will run on it fine.
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>>108524845
sounds like ltsc 11 is gonna be a less of a pain. I tried asking claude how to disable automatic updates. is this the right way?
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>>108524964
Changing the policy to "notify for install" makes it that it'll download updates but notify you for the go-ahead to actually install them.
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>>108524979
So no weird ambushes in the shutdown menu forcing me to update before shutting down/restarting?
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>>108524986
Only if you tell it to install the updates when downloaded.
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what dafuq is this shit. I 100% turned off recommendations
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>>108525719
it's gemopticians
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i picked up a t420 some time ago as a bit of a curiosity that i then decided to turn into a distrohopping machine so it doesn't sit idle, yet on a whim i put windows 7 on it and haven't budged since lol. even put some programs i used to have back in the day on it.

anything i should keep in mind re: security etc.? thing still is old and idk what my anus might be exposed to like this
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>>108511833
slop
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>>108526814
you're safe
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>>108526882
haha flop schlop he said the wlop plop!
fuck you and your gen z shitwords
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>>108527595
slop
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>>108520251
We have to go back. Thinking of keeping my current pc and running older version of windows to play some older games, work on documents/spreadsheets etc and just getting a shitty laptop for online based stuff.
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Was there a reason micsoft edge changed the blue start favourites icon to black? Like all the stupid changes they do, it bugs me and I spend half the morning trying to figure out how to change it back.
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>>108526814
Can you run a current web browser on it? Or explorer still works fine? Or firefox?
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>>108527839
got firefox esr, supermium, and r3dfox all at once. nice that browser support somehow still exists
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how often do you re-install to have a clean start? I've been on the same install since 2019
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>>108528928
I haven't needed to re-install my Windows because I shut down fully every night.
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>>108528928
when i build a new pc, so like once every 10-15 years
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>>108528401
Recently heard of r3dfox. Is it the newest of the Firefox forks made for 7/Vista/XP etc?
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>>108529157
that's the one yeah. lot snappier than the other two browsers on this hardware
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Anyone else recently get signed out of all websites in Edge? For me, sometime in the past hour, it would seem the fucking browser wiped its own cookies or some shit. I just love it so much when random patchwork pieces of the OS catastrophically shit the bed every couple weeks or so, keeps life so exciting.
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>>108529521
>Using Edge
lol
Maybe lmao even?
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>>108511833
I look like the girl on the right
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>>108520251
>>108522959
i want to go back
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>>108527621
>>108526882
i want to slopadashi shamiko
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hooked up my old ssd.
now don't know what to do with it.
was thinking of installing windows on it to use ableton and all the non-linux plugins and vst's since linux is still lacking in music production.

i love my linux and installing windows feels dirty, but i miss my ableton.

what are the pitfalls of having linux on m.2 and windows on ssd?
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>>108524031
This worked.
Thanks
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>>108531346
they fight for control of the clock
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>>108532032
You just need to either set Windows to use UTC or set the Linux install to use Local Time. Either works when it comes to making the hardware clock behave between them.
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>>108532053
yea i know, was just letting op know
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after a year of a new windows build, my filesystem is an absolute mess, what is a good uninstaller program that fully uninstalls old / unused programs and clears out empty folders?
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>>108533014
Bulk Crap Uninstaller is good
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>>108533039
perfect.
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I have not updated my Windows 11 LTSC install a single time since I installed it over a year ago. Is it worth updating? I heard 11 updates suck balls.
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>>108534590
>Is it worth updating?
Nah.
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>>108517267
I'd use windows 7 still if it was possible.
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>>108511917
I got internet working by changing the browser, Supermium has a weird name but it works so far.
I'm setting up drivers, one of them asks for .NET 3.0, is there any trustworthy website I can get it from ?
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how usable is win7 for gaming in 2026? is it hard to get steam running on it?
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>>108517267
yes, every new windows version gets worse than the last one
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>>108535149
cont.
Seems like .NET is only required for the UI, drivers installed regardless.

>>108535240
It probably won't run new games, even if they're indie.
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Who else had FUCKING WINDOWS 10 UPDATE TO 11. WHAT THE FUCK. IT JUST AUTOMATICALLY UPDATED. Even though I though I disabled all the fucking botnet aids years ago. NOW MY STYSTEM USE 30% OF MY RAM WHEN I HAVE 32GBS. I HATE WINDOWS I HATE WINDOWS I HATE WINDOWS.

I can't stand this shit. I only use this rig for gaming while my main rig is arch.
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>>108535943
anon everybody here is on ltsc and it can't update to 11
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>>108535943
yellow eyes mean liver disease
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>>108535943
i think you can roll back to windows 10 for 30 days after it forcibly rapes your system, give it a shot
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>>108511833
almost 1gb of bulking since the start of the year
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>>108535943
What games do you game that you can't game on Linux?
Is rainbow dicks siege really worth using windows if it makes you so irritable?
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>>108517267
It's funny because I saved a folder full of essential tools when I made the jump to 10 in 2020 and then never ended up using them. Windows 10 was gay as fuck with the forced updates, but everything sort of just worked and once debloated it was fast. I was finally forced off of it after it started acting queer.. randomly resetting folder views and fucking around with settings. But god linux is so much fucking worse that I actually want to go back.
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>>108536991
>What games do you game that you can't game on Linux?

Nigga I cant even get epsxe to run on linux, for some reason this freedom OS is designed around talking to a central autority that holds all needed files and dependencies and it doesn't have the ones I need to run epsxe because troons don't belive in installers for some reason.

The guides say to type all these commands into the terminal to install dependencies and they're all missing, another method was to install something called snapd which would install the dependencies but then the files for snapd are missing too. I wasted an entire fucking day on this stupid shit.
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>>108511833
hey guys, just wanted to say thanks. My college that I finished years ago decided to stop my email and thus all the office license (despite promising us a lifetime access), so had to use the activation to active office, and it works perfectly :3
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>>108536991
NTA, I'm missing a lot on Linux the integration of Everything (the file search engine) with Windhawk and File Explorer for the instantaneous directory sizes.
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>>108517267
Linux is my main OS now.
I install W10 on my laptop so I don't look like a chud in front of my coworkers.
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>>108534590
if it's LTSC it's probably worth doing it, or wait until later this year since MS promises serious performance and quality of life fixes that are definitely coming to LTSC as well
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so is there a way to get rid of windows backup in windows 10 ltsc?
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>>108537334
That feature that existed since Vista?
Doubt it.
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>>108537334
If you mean the UWP that came with a cumulative update then no you can't. Just ignore it, it doesn't do anything at all if you're using a local account like OneDrive.
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>>108537347
yeah that one I went back to the older LTSC version, forgot what it was called exactly anyway thanks Anon
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>>108536991
I have two pcs. I build that PC back in 2018 and use it for mainly online gaming and skyrim with lewd mods, also for unreal engine. My daily driver is my arch workstation, which I also game on, with modded skyrim but its a huge pain in the ass. I do have a gaming laptop with w11 and I hate it. Worst OS I have ever used. I already notices it sucks all my resourced to run so I'm gonna roll back. Like this anon said. >>108536991 until steam stops supporting Windows 10.


I really hate Microsoft and hate how it automatically updated. I was fucking hyped last year when it was "supposed" to get NO more updates. Also I might switch to Debian because I'm getting tired of rolling release shit.
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>>108536991
Just about everything except ones that use kernel level anti cheat. Steam did an amazing job with Proton. I played Resident Evil Requiem 9 on release and it worked, only thing was that there were some rare shader artifacting issues, and they identified them right away and they've since patched them.
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>>108537051
>ePSXe
it isn't 2005 amymore
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PLEASE HELP

I am on W11 IoT LTSC 2024

I've been pausing updates for a while now, but now it wont let me pause anymore

I heard a couple months back that Microsoft had removed the ability to activate windows with the old exploits, and that they were taking away people's systems after they updated if MS thought they had an invalid license or something

will I get fucked if I turn off my computer?
I'm really worried
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>>108537633
Anon why are you using the version of Windows that gives you updates for a very long time if you aren't even going to install the updates
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>>108537642
I stopped installing new updates once I heard rumors about people getting fucked over by MS

was that all lies?
did they not crack down on people "illegally" activating windows?
can I install these updates and not get locked out of my system?

Im really scared and stupid
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>>108537651
No? I haven't heard of that at all.
If you activate with any of the modules MAS offers it's the closest you can get to just paying for a license.
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>>108537664
okay... here I go.... please work and dont fuck me
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>>108537671
Just run the irm command in the OP in an admin powershell and choose the HWID activation when MAS loads, if you haven't activated yet. Easy peasy.
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>>108537678
nah it was already activated
I just heard that MS was going around de-activating illegal activations after a certain update, but I guess that was a complete fabrication

I am safe
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>>108537701
Sounds like FUD nonsense to me. If this was true the people behind MAS would've said something.
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>>108537651
Even if it happens, Microsoft has zero precedent of removing access to users' computers
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>>108537651
>was that all lies?
yes

>did they not crack down on people "illegally" activating windows?
no

>can I install these updates and not get locked out of my system?
assuming you don't get a rushed shitty update day one, yes. you might want to put a hold of like 5-7 days on new updates via group policy because sometimes ms pushes out updates that are not properly tested.
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>>108537633
Nigger why are you pausing updates instead of just disabling automatic updates completely, you're on an enterprise version of Windows for fucks sake.
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>>108537701
they wouldn't do that. they'd rather you pirate windows than use something else. it's why pirating windows has both never been hard and never to my knowledge been blocked/reversed once you've done it, with one exception i know of, a winxp service pack did blacklist some serial numbers, but that's all i can think of
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>>108538142
I remember an update that 7 got that disabled activations given by DAZ Loader back in day but that's it.
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>>108517267
meanwhile you:
>2016: windows 8 always sucked, windows 10 is actually good, just update you baby ducks!
>2022: windows 10 always sucked, windows 11 is actually good, just update you baby ducks!
>2028: windows 11 always sucked, windows 12 is actually good, just update you baby ducks!
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bros i miss windows xp.
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>>108537051
>this freedom OS is designed around talking to a central autority
open sores software is communist, not libertarian
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>>108537334
yes actually. unironically google it, you need to uninstall an unintuitively named package using powershell. i was able to uninstall windows backup this way
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I have Windows 11 IoT Enterprise on one of my machines. Is it possible to switch it from IoT Enterprise to IoT Enterprise LTSC without losing my data and apps on that machine?
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>>108538567
You can use a registry edit to make it think that it's already IoT LTSC and then use an IoT LTSC mounted setup to fake repair upgrade. Massgrave has a guide on it in their EoL section.
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I went from using Windows 7 Ultimate (think it was activated with TSForge) that I formatted today and installed Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC IOT 2021. Ran the Mass grave script and it said I was already activated and if I wanted to install anyway. Does Enterprise activate out of the box or did it carry over a license somehow I am using the legit iso I think. ISO Hash: A0334F31EA7A3E6932B9AD7206608248F0BD40698BFB8FC65F14FC5E4976C160
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>>108538582
You can check within MAS to check your activation status to see how it decided to activate itself.
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>>108538663
oh i must have missed that i will check in the morning, thanks
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>>108537651
>did they not crack down on people "illegally" activating windows?
Back in the naughties, sure. Windows Genuine Advantage and all that
Nowadays MS doesn't really give a fuck about strong-arming consumers, especially when one of their helpdesk consultants got caught using MAS to remotely activate someone's system lmao

They're still happy to buttfuck an enterprise with software audits desu
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>>108539245
It's because enterprise business is what MS cares about these days. Azure rental, 365 subs, licenses for every computer in a floor/building. Consumer sales are basically chicken feed in their eyes.
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>>108535240
For Steam there's this modified installer from December 2025, haven't tested it myself though.
https://w7revived.chefkiss.dev/steam/
For games themselves you're most likely out of luck with new slop and almost every emulator.
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The main issue with XP at low res is the fonts aren't as smooth as Win 11.
Still the OS uses a lot less ressources, in the case of this old PC it means not overheating, and making less noise.
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>>108535433
>It probably won't run new games, even if they're indie.
dont care, i only want the older ones
should i just install win10 instead? its an old i5-2400 with just about 8GB of ram, makes me want to install loonix
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>>108535240
>is it hard to get steam running on it?
I think this guide should still fit, mostly for keeping the vgui client builds alive, but it should have some Win7-specific tips
https://blog.lightwo.net/steam-client-downgrades-survival-kit.html
But I believe with one of these VxKex forks (or Second System, but it's patreonware), you can get the latest client to run instead
>just keep in mind the dotexe1337 fork is not on github now, but on his self-hosted site
http://thrashnet.org/projects/vxkex/
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I have a Lunar Lake laptop 258v.

I want to install Windows 10 on it, because I fucking hate the networking explorer system on windows 11.

Is losing the scheduler a major problem if I do this? I am pretty confident I can get the windows 11 drivers on windows 10 to work....
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>>108541043
>Is losing the scheduler a major problem if I do this?
it's a fairly large performance drop. if you insist anyway, make sure you use 22h2 education or enterprise instead of iot ltsc 2021 or it'll be even more fucked. i don't know what you mean by networking explorer system but you can generally use group policy to configure off a lot of annoyances and third party software can usually deal with the remainder.
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Guys, what do i do if a bunch of cmd windows pop up and then quickly close,
Why does that happen?, should i worry?
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>>108541067
The left menu screen of windows explorer is now completely randomized. All my links to network drives no longer exist. This was entirely done randomly. No quick links, nothing. Just chaos.....
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DVD playback on XP stops after a few minutes lol.
Microsoft Media Center doesn't even detect it, and they don't provide updates.
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>>108541095
yea that shit's a mess. i think there are registry settings that can affect it (maybe some third party tools are out there to frontend them) but afaik there isn't much in the way of group policy. you can shift+right click a folder or drive in explorer and pin to quick access, but it doesn't get rid of the mess, just pins stuff you want near the top. explorer in general is dogshit. i know there are some full replacements out there but i haven't looked into the topic.
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>>108541074
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns
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>>108541074
it's often some driver application and not usually anything to worry about, but you can check in autoruns under logon like the other guy said.
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>>108541152
>>108541188
Thank you guys
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Help me out bros. I've been having a reoccurring issue with my PC. Built early last year, running Windows 11.
What happens is video files, games and Windows Explorer file browsing windows will randomly freeze for about 20-30 seconds, this usually happens a few times per day.

It's always contained within the application so I can ALT+TAB and do other shit while waiting for the program to unfreeze but it's so annoying. None of my hardware components are being overclocked.

I've run Memtest86, Prime95 on small FFTs for a couple hours, both found nothing. I've disabled RAM overclocking & DOCP in the bios, I've reinstalled the Nvidia drivers, reinstalled the AMD drivers. I've reinstalled Windows (keeping files & apps) I'm not sure what else to do.

One thing that happened recently I was watching a video in VLC & it froze, I switched to a Brave window where I had a Jewtube video paused and the entire window was plain white. I could pause and unpause the YT video and hear audio but after about 20 seconds the webpage went back to normal and my video in VLC unfroze, both those things happened simultaneously.
Maybe that gives an idea of what it could be?

Build:
CPU - 7800X3D
GPU - RTX 4070
RAM - (x2) 16GB DDR5 6000mhz
PSU - RM850x 850W 80+
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>>108541243
Try updating your bios to agesa 1.3.0.0a. they mention specifically fixes for Ryzen 9000 freezes.
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>>108541243
AM5 freezes*
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>>108541243
If BIOS update doesn't work try disabling multi plane overlay.
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5157/~/after-updating-to-nvidia-game-ready-driver-461.09-or-newer%2C-some-desktop-apps

you run the registry file and reboot
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>>108541265
>>108541270
>>108541284
Thanks, much appreciated.
Fingers crossed I have the solution right now and won't be adding those to the list of things I've tried in some future post.
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>>108538732
>>108538582
Looks like I installed 10 for a day or two last year to try it out, I must have activated with HWID then and now it's linked to my device
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>>108539837
Agree, some might find the pixelated fonts to be quite charming, Win 11 often makes fonts too blurry, creating an opposite problem kek, I'd say Win10 had the best balance so far
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*cough*
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>>108511833
so, I installed iot ltsc 2021, works great but had one issue, after booting up and at the login screen, the brightness goes to the minimum. I am sure it's the video card driver (I followed the instruction with nvclean and all), because my laptop is GT80 titan, and with a button I can switch to use the internal video card and when i do it works great, so it must be the nvidia driver using the new method, I always use gefore experience except this time. So how to fix it?
another question, do you guys suggest having portmaster as a FW?!
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security updates aside any reason to choose 10ltsc 2021 over 2019 or the other way around 2019 over 2021
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>>108544725
support for newer hardware and devices and whatever features they added in the interim, just use whatever you want though
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>>108511833
>windows
>yuri tranime
What a coalish thread
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sup winfags, linuxfag here, touring win11 pro because I like to try out different things, today's adventure: play with Hyper-V virtual machines (and see how it compres with KVM/libvirt)
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>>108545277
have fun. i believe hyper-v inserts itself above the host os and has the host os run on it as well (with hardware passed through to it), so it incurs a slight performance cost. because of that, i've never enabled it on any of my machines because i do a lot of gaming.
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>>108545323
>. i believe hyper-v inserts itself above the host os and has the host os run on it as well
That is correct, but only if the role is enabled. From what I've seen the performance cost is negligible. As a matter of fact WSL2 is a lightweight Hyper-V VM without the need of the full role. I'm curious to know how it is implemented
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>>108545323
I think some of the core-isolation settings will do that too.
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>>108545375
yeah i generally turn that off too
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>>108545277 (me)
Interestingly, the Ubuntu 22.04 image is configured to automatically enable xrdp and login through it, which is a so called "enhanced session", which doesn't work by default, disabling it allows to login but at a reduced resolution (1920x1080 max) although it feels very snappy/performant. So far it's being painless, next I'm trying a Win11 Dev VM
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>>108545392 (me)
Nope, it BSOD'ed on me, guess it's time to do a clean reinstall
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>>108511833
>Wait for IoT LTSC 2027 if you can
Why wait for LTSC 2027 instead of using LTSC 2024?
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>>108546206
You should just install Windows 11 Pro and move on with your life. The OP is wrong and ridiculous.
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>>108546302
This. Then simply uninstall things you don’t like and use group policy to disable other things. Probably the best ‘tweak’ you can do is to disable start searches going to the web, consult your AI to walk you through it.
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>>108546302
>>108546405
>just build a clown house and do all this bullshit to tear down the clown decoration bullshit instead of building a normal house to begin with
retard take
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>>108546457
I’m talking about keeping the 40 year old castle and changing the ugly new flag someone put up. What’s your genius idea, switch to 30 year old linux that still doesn’t have any clue where it’s going on the desktop whilst suffering a paucity of professional software?
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>>108546457
No, I mean install Windows 11, don't "debloat" at all, marvel as nothing bad happens to you, and get a life. That's the correct COA.
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>>108547232
2027 will seemingly indeed be the best 11 LTSC version when it releases if it includes all these new native program replacements.
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>>108547236
I didn't updoot and the hackers stole my kisankanna and sweetiefox video and pictures stash.
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I just bought an Elgato Wave XLR MK.2 and I want to use Wave Link, but when I try to install it, it gives me the error:

>Windows cannot install package Elgato.WaveLink_3.0.3.2592_x64__g54w8ztgkx496 because this package is not compatible with the device. The package requires OS version 10.0.22000.0 or higher on the Windows.Desktop device family. The device is currently running OS version 10.0.19044.7058.

I'm using Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC Version 21H2, OS Build 19044.7058, which I used when I first built my PC on June of last year and which I got from these threads' OP. I don't think there's a workaround for the program's installation since the MK.2 was just released, so now I'm looking into how to upgrade my OS to a more recent IoT LTSC version. I'm looking through the OP links, but I can't find a way to upgrade, so I would appreciate some help here.
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>>108548170
download the install media for a newer ltsc (in this case it'd need to be 11 2024), throw it on a flash drive using rufus, then run setup.exe from inside of your existing windows. make sure it says it'll keep your files and apps.
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>>108548170
Some programs have artificial checks for whether W10 or W11 is up-to-date and block older builds which would include LTS. If I recall correctly, some guy on reddit made a github script that allows you to bypass these artificial blocks and install .appx stuff that wouldn't be allowed otherwise, try to search on /r/windowsltsc or google/github for it.
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>>108548195
There's usually a good reason for the program to require a specific version of Windows as it requires a underlying feature they added for example WGC capture is not available on 10.
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>>108548213
More like broken in Windows 10
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>>108548184
>in this case it'd need to be 11 2024
No, I meant a more recent build of 10 IoT LTSC, I really don't want to move to 11.

>>108548195
I'll look around, thanks. My concern is that this device is brand new, so even if I download an older version of WaveLink, it might not even be compatible.
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>>108548246
>No, I meant a more recent build of 10 IoT LTSC
not a thing. you can upgrade it to 22h2 but it'll stop getting updates. you can upgrade it to 22h2, install your app, and then roll back to 21h2 and you'll start getting updates again, but your app won't work if there's something specific it's using from 22h2.
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>>108548246
Try it out, chances are it could be artificial. But it could also be a real limitation. I wouldn't suggest running LTS if you plan to run super new hardware on it, it's already been 5 years since 2021 build released, you could upgrade to the next LTS and have it work fine since 24H2 is still gonna be supported for years to come even on the beta testing GAC branch. Thankfully pretty much all my hardware is 2010-2025 and works perfectly on 2H21.
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>>108548246
you can use NTLite to integrate updates into your installation .iso, up to a point. I think October 2025 was the last integratable cumulative update. After that you will need a functional Windows Update if you want newer updates. Or you can learn how to manually apply the update packages to your live install. Ask Google or an LLM how to do that, not me
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>>108548268
>not a thing.
yes it is a thing, dont spread misinformation. hint: 21h2, 22h2, 24h2 etc are not build numbers.
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>>108548393
10.0.22000.0 (which is what he mentioned being required) specifically refers to windows 11 (not 10) 21h2. you're right that 21h2 isn't a build number, but build numbers correspond to specific version/feature releases and in this case the app is saying it needs windows 11 to run.
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>>108548460
So it does require W11 pretty much. I'll do as the other anon said and see if I can find that github script that allows me to install it, and hope it's just an artificial block.
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>>108548170
Try modifying the AppX manifest XMLs of the package to change the minimum OS version, and then manually deploy it from within powershell
>you might have to delete other metadata files that are related to the AppX package signature, as the modifications made it null and void, in case you aren't able to deploy
That's how people got those new Applel apps to work with 10 (like Music and Devices), and I believe something like that was done among other things to get the WSA package working too

Just don't be surprised if it won't work regardless - UWP runtime is a whole different subject matter compared to regular Win32
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will be reinstalling win11 pro tonight anons, wish me luck
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>>108548923
Just make sure you run a diskpart clean command on the drive you're installing it too.
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I just rebooted my computer and freed up over 10gb of disk space. I have no idea what happened or why.
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>>108549876
Cleaning-focused scheduled tasks.
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>>108549876
old update rollback data pruned most likely
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>>108548923
based
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>>108540531
this one better:https://github.com/i486/VxKex
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>>108548195
I found it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsLTSC/comments/1pxc80p/apple_tv_and_music_wont_install_on_windows_10/

Now my dumb ass needs to figure out how to complete all of these steps because I don't really mess with github scrips, but I should be fine. I'll see if this works, because I was also looking at the Wave Link 3 feedback thread and not only everyone is on W11, but they're also reporting a lot of issues.
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How do I encrypt whole disk with BitLocker? All I can see is doing it for partitions.
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Which package manager is better to use between scoop and chocolatey? Or is there something better to use?
I like scoop because it doesn't need admin privs to install programs but i heard its wrapper makes it slower to load programs. Is there any other package manager that can install stuff without admin privs (and also can be manually configured to run through a proxy)
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Windows 11 is such a total piece of shit. I was helping my dad out on his 3 year old gaming laptop (he doesn't even play video games, he just wanted something futureproof and paid a pretty penny for it at the time) and it astonished me that the entire system locked up for 2-3 seconds when I tried opening a saved webpage in Edge. I couldn't move the mouse cursor. How the fuck could that even happen? I'm getting flashbacks to the old days working on shitty old piece-of-shit computers. I'm so used to my own [Linux] computers always being super snappy that I've basically forgotten what it's like to have a system stall like that.
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>>108552783
have task manager running with the performance tab open while troubleshooting and you'll usually be able to readily see why the system freezes, it keeps a running graph of system resources for the past like minute.

i assume it's an ssd, i guess it could be going. maybe run crystaldiskinfo and see if anything's flagged. it could also be windows update or defender running in the background. best way to figure out what's going on is to see what resources are getting hammered when it freezes like that.
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>>108552783
single channel ram?
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>>108552783
11 definitely needs a lot of purging since it has a lot of bloat, having said that, once you do some basic cleaning it shouldn't feel THAT bad, if it still becomes very unresponsive then there might be another reason behind it.
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>>108550693
Update if anyone cares: Well, I've been troubleshooting this thing during the past couple of hours, even learned how to run git scrips and I actually managed to install Wave Link 3 In Windows 10. Two issues now:
>Program crashes as soon as I open it, but if I remove mic permissions from the settings before running the program, it will load, and if I re-enable mic permissions, it will now open normally even after closing.
>Now it's asking me to install an Audio Driver (pic related), but the Install button doesn't work at all, even when running the program on Administrator. I tried looking for the driver to download and install separately, but the Elgato webpage for some reason has no Drivers section and I already looked everywhere for this specific Wave Link Audio Driver.

So once again I'm stuck, and I'm definitely blaming Elgato on this, it's a brand new piece of software, they should have the drivers listed for individual download. I'm so close, yet so far.
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summoning /fwt/ gurus
is it possible to get rid of most of the webshit built in win11? say for ex: different shell, different filebrowser / explorer etc
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>>108547232
Isn't the new copilot shit the full edge browser with some JS on top? O guess edge is a native app.
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>>108553300
There's no reason to, according to earlier posts in this thread.
Looks like the new 2027 LTSC will be removing all the web-based apps and replacing them with native ones (If I'm reading this correctly)
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>>108553283
you could maybe try and use process monitor to see what it's doing when you press that button, if it's trying to run an installer or trying to download something or what. process monitor's a bit of a bitch to use, you need to make heavy use of filters or you get way too much noise. but it tracks just about everything, including filesystem and network operations. just need to make sure you're actually filtering to the right operations, they sometimes have misleading names.
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>>108553002
>single channel ram?
there's like a 3-5% difference at best
https://gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel
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>>108553714
it makes a bigger difference on amd than intel. the infinity fabric is tied to the memory speed and the infinity fabric controls i/o and pcie so if thats slow then so is your gpu and mouse.
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>>108553714
>Posted on March 8, 2014
Now try posting a recent benchmark
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>>108553697
>Looks like the new 2027 LTSC will be removing all the web-based apps and replacing them with native ones
There's no guarantee of it
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>>108554421
But there's a very high chance.
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>>108554543
Control Panel has always been better. Settings sucks dick.
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>>108554543
even in its massively nerfed state, control panel still offers more fine-tuning fuckin hell lol.
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>>108554550
>>108554552
I've always assumed the reason modern settings suck it's because of laziness.

Since they can't get rid of Control Panel, instead of porting all its functionality to the new Settings, they just move basic options to new Settings and force power users to use the Control Panel since they know how to access it quickly
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>>108554568
It's very much a case for me that if I can do something in Control Panel I'm doing it in Control Panel.
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>>108554925
full??
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>>108555875
Full securishit enabled, because why the fuck not. Only had to ditch Fort Firewall to be able to use HVCI without BSoD on boot, but I found a decent enough alternative: Minimal Firewall. Operates on WFP, has wildcard filtering, all I need.
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>>108554543
>>108554550
>>108554552
You can pretty much get back all the functionality that was in Control Panel in 10 and 11 anyway thanks to Winclassic autists, though there's no guarantee an upcoming update won't break it and revert the changes right away unless you disable updoots completely
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>>108553701
Thank you for the help, unfortunately I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at. This is what shows as soon as I click on the Install button, and I do notice several NAME NOT FOUND, so I can assume it might be something related to the program not finding the source to begin the driver download.

I think at this point I can only wait and see if I can find the standalone driver to install, or keep checking that Reddit feedback thread to see if someone had a similar issue with the driver installation.
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>>108557780
you need to use filters, 99% of that is going to be noise. you don't really care much about the registry stuff it's doing, you can right click any regopenkey and regclosekey and add to the exclude filter. keep excluding things that don't matter and you'll start to see things that might be relevant usually.
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tfw so rich I can use windows subsystem for Linux and get the best of both worlds
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>>108558150
ok!
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Why doesn't Microsoft just ship out LTSC as the default Windows?
This is so much fucking better and just acts like a normal fucking computer
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I'm going to install LTSC IoT on a brand new 1TB NVMe, what should I do beforehand? Like partition it and such? Is a 200 GB OS partition good?
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>>108559634
since it's brand new, as long as there aren't already multiple partitions on the drive you can just use it as is. if there are, just use disk management to delete any partitions and create a new single partition that takes up the entire drive.
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>>108550638
>Hello everyone! The original author (vxiiduu) of VxKex has recently released a new version of the source code
woulda thought he disappeared from the scene. still remember him passfagging here and there
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>>108559629
You wouldn't buy it anyway.
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man, so much functionality that should just be built in is instead packaged into PowerToys
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>>108559968
If Microsoft is truly content with fulfilling their promises of making W11 better, they should have a community poll as for which PowerToys functions should be included natively. Win11's drag-and-drop tiling thingy is already taking inspiration from FancyZones.
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Honestly, I am optimistic about Microsoft's sudden commitment to improving Win11.
1. They've been openly admitting 24H2 and 25H2 have instabilities not present in 23H2, so they didn't hide the fact something's wrong
2. Microsoft, one of the worst offenders in the AI bubble enshittification race, basically admitted they've fucked up with Windows. Nvidia would quadruple down and say the users are wrong. As sad as it is, this is a big positive sign.
3. The guy that they've chosen for the whole native rewrite is not some Nadella's dalit of choice, but a white dude that worked for Microsoft back in the Ballmer era, so there's a high chance these efforts will result in a proper unshittification of Win11

Imma stay cautiously optimistic, see how things develop, and if Microsoft delivers and LTSC 2027 ends up being actually good, I'll probably migrate my main rig from 10 LTSC 2021.
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I'm on Windows 10, and lately I've been running into an issue where my PC loses all sounds after going to into Sleep mode.
Audio will not play from any application on my pc (my browser, spotify, video games etc.) until I either restart my computer or go into service and restart "Windows Audio".
Does anyone know why this would be the case? I built my pc back in 2020, and I've never had any issues with the audio up until recently
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>>108559968
The reason is that PowerToys is more like a hobby project inside Microsoft, they keep it alive because their own people use it.

Business wise it would be complicated to ship it with Windows because it would need to go through all the testing process and bureaucracy that would take years for it to pass. Since MS doesn't want to commit that much to PowerToys they just keep it as an optional thing
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>>108560443
I'm fine with that reasoning tbdesu. As long as you can have the core Windows experience without complete bureaucratic enshittification, so something like LTSC, having Microsoft develop actual functionality as a secondary piece of software that doesn't require as much scrutiny is fine.

It also helps it is de facto a first party product, so you can have a much easier time convincing IT to install it, or even make it a core part of their AD. Which I assume is exactly what MS did internally.
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Microsoft keeping "HKCU/Control Panel/Mouse/MouseSpeed" at "1" by default in the era of high DPI optical mice is a crime against humanity.
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>>108560023
Because it's actually being headed by a guy that's been there back when Windows was mostly all round good is a good sign. No more AI forcing, replace web wrapper shit with actual native programs, add features that older Windows version had since the beginning like moving the taskbar, make programs like Explorer feel snappier. Sounds good to me.
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Should I be worried? I've had this laptop since 2023

Ignore the temperature, I'm using HandBrake at the moment
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>>108562812
grab crystaldiskinfo and run that and screenshot it
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>>108562812
you should check CrystalDiskInfo and see exactly which metric is the one causing Windows to think it's wearing out already
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>>108562812
By that metric it seems that the SSD in your laptop is going to last most likely many, many more years. So no I don't think you should be worried at all.
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>>108562832
I think it's my semi constant HandBrake use, I was just wondering if it's something I should be worried about
>>108562838
Hmm, I hope so
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>>108562857
Wear to SSDs happens via constant writes, so something like semi-consistent Handbrake usage can get it warm because it's just how video/audio transcoding be.
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ive been thinking about installing 11 but is there any way to make the explorer just like 10s? tried it on a friends laptop and the menus were dumbed down and shitty
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>>108563290
Never used them, but there is startallback and a free product called openshell.
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If I use an enablement package to update W10 LTSC IoT 19044 to 19045, will I lose the LTSC IoT?
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>>108563683
yes, you'll lose it
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is windows terminal a meme? I just upgraded to 10 enterprise iot and i see they pushed power shell over cmd, is cmd not cool anymore?
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>>108563691
If I have all Microsoft servers / Windows update servers permanently blocked with Portmaster, I'm good past 2027 right?
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>>108560539
Wired Mice is capped at 1000 DPI and a shitty $8 office mouse achieves that.
You need more?
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>>108563692
It was
>cmd
>Windows Powershell (5.1)
>Powershell (version 7)
You can use whatever of course, but the new trend is to make it more universal instead of being tied to windows. Linux users can enjoy it too, and they should, because bash is horrible.
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>>108563692
Terminal is basically a UWP program that lets you use Powershell, CMD and Azure shells in one program.
I don't like how chuggy it can feel, so I just use CMD or Powershell separately as needed.
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>>108563790
Enable the ESU already, anon.
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>>108564038
i already have... but they really want me to get to know C*p*l*t....
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>>108563716
Wired mice are capped at 1000Hz dumbo, and what that registry key represents is the "Enhance pointer precision" setting from main.cpl that enables mouse acceleration. Made sense back when ball mice were dominant, but not anymore, but for all these years Microsoft keeps it on by default so my very first instinct when using someone else's Windows machine is to Win+R, main.cpl and disable that shit.

>>108563692
Windows Terminal is simply a terminal emulator, a wrapper. I like WT since there aren't many good alternatives for Windows, it works well and it launches about as fast as something like Alacritty, the overhead compared to raw conhost.exe seems the same. I also find it faster than any of those fancy Neovim GUI's, and I get the tabbed UI whenever I end up opening multiple instances, so it's a good choice. Linux people also don't go directly into bash/zsh/fish, they use a terminal emulator, and that's what conhost/WT is.

>>108563733
>Linux users can enjoy it too, and they should, because bash is horrible.
Linux users thrive in their masochism, as long as they can tell themselves they're superior to Windows users just because they don't use Windows.
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What's the least retarded way of automagically nigger-rigging a folder to change the date modified property of any folders added to it? Alternatively, what's the least retarded workaround for being able to sort a folder of folders by date added?
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>>108564543
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/folder_time_update.html
This might be what you want. Make a scheduled task to make it run as you need to make it automagical.
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>>108564561
automagical in the sense that the act of moving Folder B into Folder A will result in Folder B's date modified being changed to whatever the current date is at the time. Was hoping Nir may have had something like that, maybe just haven't found it yet
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You're invited /g/
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2026/04/08/youre-invited-windows-insiders-meetups-are-back/
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>>108565610
Those meetings will be filled with tech bros so no thank you.
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>>108565610
>windows insiders meetups
jesus christ, imagine the smell
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>>108545392
>automatically enable xrdp and login through it, which is a so called "enhanced session",
How's that supposed to work?
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Is there any advantage to using w11 over w10 on older hardware? Or will win10 be more performant than 11 even after debloating everything? Don't really care about security updates.
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>>108565637
Freshly pressed suits smell nice.
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>>108565610
>none in my area
someone go and grill them on why they allow macniggers who dont even use windows to design windows (11)
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>>108565880
i have no idea, seems the ubuntu image already has xrdp enabled
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>>108565895
windows 10 would probably be more performant out of box. you could probably configure windows 11 to reach similar. windows 11 does have "gaming mode" which basically helps with resource prioritization. i guess it's down to how old and shitty the hardware you're talking about is.
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>>108565895
absolute none, it's quite the opposite actually
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>>108565637
>>108565937
I imagine a bunch of guys wearing cologne and it all mixes together into a unpleasant smell
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>writing notepad document on work laptop
>saved it, then pressed CTRL+Q to close notepad
>CTRL+Q is the "AI button" shortcut
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What's the deal with activating Office these days?

Usually I just pirate it, but a family member has asked, and they've seen keys being sold for around 10 bucks.
Are they better off just buying that? I know my pirated copy sometimes gets flagged by Windows defender. Buying those 10 buck copies seems like it might at least be half legit and keep working without issue but I don't know.

Any tips welcome
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>>108566923
just use MAS, same as with windows. ohook for o365 continuous release, tsforge if you're using a standalone version (one with a year number after it).
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>>108566939
Oh shit, you can pirate 365 too? Which one's better for someone who wants no fuss?
Will MAS get flagged or cause any issues or is it literally set and forget? Just wondering if it'll save some bother if they just buy the license for 10 bucks because they're not tech inclined at all and just the word piracy spooks them
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I feel like such an idiot bros. I'm a little confused.
Since I don't have Intel, I can just go with LTSC Win10 right if I want long term updates? But some programs won't like 21H2? Though I can just use it like Windows Home and sign in to my MS account and install apps and everything?

And as for Win11, what's wrong with Pro instead of Enterprise or Education? (Education is just ltsc, right?). Do both Enterprise and Education work the same?

Sorry for the dumbass questions. I've never pirated a Windows but deciding between staying on 11 or sticking to 10 I'm in a bit of a pickle and it feels like I might as well take the time to upgrade my Windows license from Home.
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>>108566989
>Education is just ltsc, right?
Oh man, this topic...
There are three Windows versions, de facto. Home, Pro and Enterprise.
Home is locked down to shit. Win11 forces you to use an MS account.
Pro is okay-ishly open. You can make a local account but MS will nag you to use an MS account in Settings.
Enterprise is the most open. You can make a local account and you won't be nagged to make an MS account in Settings.

There is the General Availability Channel (GAC) and Long Term Service Channel (LTSC).
GAC is where you get all the rolling releases and changes, sometimes system breaking. You get them in all three versions.
LTSC is where Microsoft freezes the system at a certain major update and supports it for extended periods of time, often used in things like self-checkout machines.
LTSC is also gutted of the "consumer features" which are all the useless bloat that comes pre-bundled. Same can be achieved on Pro/Enterprise versions with WinUtil.

Now, the trick question is that there's "Education" and "Pro Education". IIRC, "Education" is a Pro variant, while "Pro Education" is an Enterprise variant. I know, makes zero sense whatsoever.
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>>108566966
afaik it's just set and forget, i've never heard of an issue with it. ohook injects a dll that bypasses activation checks, tsforge activates it via phone activation (but i think it gets overridden when there's a major release upgrade which is why i believe it's more suitable for standalone releases).
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>>108566989
>>108567051
ehh you're kind of right but not really. education is basically consumer-sku enterprise. it has more or less the same restrictions. i think enterprise adds a few very minor things that would only really be useful in a domain environment but otherwise they're nearly identical.

pro is meaningless. education is just better pro. there's no situation where you want pro instead of education. "pro education" is just pro with some changes; the version you want is education if you're even considering pro.

the only reason to use education instead of enterprise is if you specifically want an edition that's treated as a consumer sku. otherwise there's not really a difference and you can just pick whatever.

tl;dr education, enterprise, and enterprise iot ltsc are the only editions you should ever be considering and there's not really much difference between the first two.
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>>108565966
>how old and shitty the hardware
Skylake cpu
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>>108567089
unless you're using a hdd for your os or have a very low amount of ram i don't think there would be any additional issues running 11 on skylake. with that said 11 has additional annoyances, the biggest of which is just explorer being shittier since fixing that requires third party software (most other annoyances can be fixed with group policy or first-party tools).
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>>108567051
Thank you.
If I'm a fool and actually want to use an MS account, will I notice much between Home/Pro/Enterprise? Can you put some of the bloat back in LTSC if you want it?

I want to give 11 a shot but I always read about broken updates. Is 11 even safe to be on or is LTSC the only way? Surely LTSC has its drawbacks being stuck on certain updates?

As an end user, I have no use for Education then, right?
What do people use Win10 with? Are there any decent versions getting long term support or is it all roads to Win11?

>>108567085
Thanks, that clears a lot up. I am a bit consoomer and like some of MS bloat like Game Bar, so do you think Education is best? Either Education or Enterpris don't cause issues if I just want to use my own MS account and not get treated as a student or business, right? That's why I was considering Pro.
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>>108567151
>If I'm a fool and actually want to use an MS account, will I notice much between Home/Pro/Enterprise?
education and enterprise at install time will only allow you to sign in with an organization microsoft account (so not the personal one you have) or a local account ("domain account" but it's really a local account with the expectation you'd join the domain later). this is usually not an issue because you can convert to a microsoft account post-install, except there's currently a bug with doing this because i did this exact thing a few weeks ago and found it out the hard way. if you want to use a microsoft account, install home or pro (which will ask for a ms account login) and then use MAS to edition change to education after the fact. (i did find a workaround for the bug but it's more trouble than you'd probably want to go through; the way i described is much easier).

>Is 11 even safe to be on or is LTSC the only way?
microsoft's updates right now are buggy at best but it's an easy workaround. use group policy and set reasonable delays for updates. set a delay of 5-7 days for security updates and 90 days or more for feature upgrades. you could also use the "target a windows version" group policy set to "Windows 11" and "25H2" to stay on that version until you decide for yourself to move off it (usually when it goes eol).

>As an end user, I have no use for Education then, right?
you have no use for anything other than education, enterprise, or enterprise iot ltsc. home, pro, and pro education are worthless, except temporarily for the workaround i mentioned above. home especially is dogshit.

> I am a bit consoomer and like some of MS bloat like Game Bar, so do you think Education is best?
all that stuff works on any edition, it's just that it might not be installed by default on iot ltsc (i'm not sure if it is on enterprise). but no matter what edition you go with you can generally get it working, although might need a script.
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>>108567067
Hmm thanks. In the first case it seems it isn't actually activated (ohook), whereas in the second case, the activated version gets overridden and needs maintenance. I'm thinking buying a key might be better for this case.

Btw, why would anyone use 365? Isn't it a bad cloud version?
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>>108567151
>Either Education or Enterpris don't cause issues if I just want to use my own MS account and not get treated as a student or business, right? That's why I was considering Pro.
education is literally pro with some extra features and a year of extra support. enterprise is basically education but with different licensing and default update channel and some features that only an enterprise would really find useful.
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>>108567217
>I'm thinking buying a key might be better for this case.
maybe. i'm not sure if they might revoke those gray market keys or not, you'd want to look into it. i've never heard of ohook failing and tsforge only has issues on continuous release office.

>Btw, why would anyone use 365? Isn't it a bad cloud version?
it's not a cloud version, it's their continuous release one, although microsoft has naming issues so best not to look too deep into that. there are two release models for office: a standalone version that gets bugfixes but no additional features (e.g. microsoft office 2024) and their subscription version that gets everything (microsoft 365, i think that's what they're calling it right now anyway, they keep changing it).

if you use a standalone release, it'll stay the same. tsforge activates it permanently and afaik you should never have any issues. however, it will eventually become unsupported and it won't ever get any new features.

if you use 365, ohook will bypass activation and i've never heard of it having an issue as long as it's been around but in theory they could possibly patch it. you'll get whatever new features, it'll never go out of support, but you may get unwanted changes if microsoft decides to do something stupid to the ui or fill it with more ai bullshit than it already has.
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Anyone excited about new Windows update this month?
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>>108567763
only excited about the return of native applications, if that's planned for this month then yeah, otherwise nah
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I keep editing images with dism... I don't even use windows...
I've made a script to automatically edit Windows 10 and 11 images, doing things like applying registry edits (at the correct step, since you can't force HKCU things when you don't even have a CU), skip the installer shit with an unattend, bypassing requirements by tricking it into thinking it's a server install (w11 server only hard requires cpu stuff not tpm or even uefi), I'm also adding/reverting a bunch of programs like pre-copilot notepad and paint, but adding nice things I use often like the newest snipping tool (that can record videos), the clock, sticky notes or even xbox. I can also toggle nuking defender/edge (edge is a pita to remove in W10). I can also force the education version of the start menu without the "suggestions" part in the bottom.
Pretty cool shtuff, dism+powershell is lots of fun but most things ive reimplemented(stolen) from MDL. truly the best place on earth for windows tinkering.
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>>108568136
unfathomably based
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>>108568136
Been thinking about doing something similar so that I won't manually do all the usual shit post-install but I'm too lazy to do so.
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How do I get the App Installer in Windows 10 iot ltsc to get winget or can I get winget without it? I installed the microsoft store but that didn't seem to do it.
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>>108569117
try this https://aka.ms/getwinget
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>>108569139
I've tried it before, I can't run the .msix bundle. Seems like I need the App Installer to run them, but I'm not entirely sure.
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>>108569152
is ms store working at all? if this is a new install of ltsc, it probably doesn't have ms store functionality, you need to follow the microsoft store steps in https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide
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>>108569179
It's a new install, but I added MS Store and it's working fine.
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>>108569194
try installing this directly via edge https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9nblggh4nns1
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>>108569198
That worked. Nice. Thanks. I couldn't find it in the store when I searched it before, guess the name is just too generic.
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>>108569233
i think it's hidden from the search results in ms store for some reason. it's annoying and i'm not sure why they do it.
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Why does this keep on happening? clearing out the Photo apps data doesn't work, and Restarting is only a temporary fix.
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>>108569328
try sfc /scannow from an admin command prompt and if it fixes issues do a reboot
also check for updates
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>>108569337
done it, both SFC and an update check, found nothing
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>>108569450
try removing the photos app entirely and see if it gets any better. you can use a replacement like nomacs if you need one (or you can even install the old windows photo viewer program i believe).

not entirely sure what's going on to cause this though. you could also maybe try turning off thumbnails globally, see if it helps. User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > File Explorer > Turn off the display of thumbnails and only display icons
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>>108569489
>nomacs
I'll try it out, but to be desu the Legacy version of Photos is app I'm talking about, I never use the shitty new app
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>>108511833
They have dicks?
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>>108520251
Is this XP?
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>>108570359
Looks like Windows 2000
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>>108570369
That's win ME for you
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>>108570510
>tfw had a relative that had Windows 2000
Man it was nice. I printed off so many cheats for my PS1 games.
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>>108570518
heh, I do remember getting a cd burner for my win98 pc and absolutely losing my shit over it
>burned music cds
>burned snes roms for my ps2
>burned media players for my ps2
man if only I had faster net I could've burnt more gayms
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>>108570551
Good times anon, good times.
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>>108571073
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>b-b-b-but why would you want to stay on an old version of windows instead of the latest slop release?!?!?
LTSChads just can't stop winning.
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>>108571908
Yes anon we know. LTSC 2027 will most likely be the one to go with when it releases if these new native programs are in 11 by 27H2.
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>>108571900
isn't it a little too early for that
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>>108571951
it's never too early
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>>108541284
Well I've updated my bios and still experiencing this issue. I'll try disabling MPO but somehow I don't think it'll work. Looks like I'll just have to be stuck with this thing forever.
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>>108569745
Try one of these three tried and true options:
-IrfanView
-XnView/XnView MP
-FastStone Image Viewer
Kinda crazy how many of these "old" and "outdated" programs for Windows still beat everything else.
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>>108522965
https://www.sordum.org/7615/easy-context-menu-v1-6/
https://github.com/BluePointLilac/ContextMenuManager
Try either of those or check them out on YT to see which you like.
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I want to swap over to Linux fully but I just can't rationalize a 2h battery time loss with my laptop
And if my laptop is going to stay on windows, my desktop definitely is too
My laptop is an HP Elitebook 1040 G10
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>>108576409
what is that image
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I went away for a few mins and my PC went into sleep mode. Piece of shit Windows did not let me sign back in without updating the OS. I did not save my work and now everything is lost. What a faggot ass company
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>>108576409
i dont know why this fucking pic makes me lauch so much
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>>108578536
El museo
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>>108579851
From hopping over a chair to not being able to do a dab. What fucking kids does to a MF's physique.
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>test out w10 ltsc vs w11 ltsc on the laptop I just bought
>13th gen Intel, 32gb RAM, 1TB NVMe
>windows 10 breezes through installation and updates in 15 minutes
>windows 11 takes 45 minutes
>cinebench scores 25% apart
>reinstalled w11 to be sure and same thing
>tried turning off defender, VBS, core isolation etc.
>SecureBoot and TPM already disabled
>tried running CTT winutil for lulz
>still 25% less cinebench score
W10 ltsc it is.

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