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>>108592191
i fucking love linux. i just can't stop using it, i love it so god damn much.
also anyone know of a good alternative to git/github for software distribution?
i actually don't like git, no particular reason it just doesn't jive with me especially github. i was thinking about using torrents or hosting an eepsite but idk of any good trackers and i2p is a bit of a gatekeep. ive been hoarding tons of scripts over the years and i think others would find them useful too but have put off sharing for quite a while due to uncertainty of distribution method.
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Hey anons, been using Windows all my life and ocassionally dual booted linux (Debian and Arch), I really wanna make a full switch to Linux and as I don't have that much experience with it (but I do know my way around) I'm looking for a distro that fullfill my needs. Your basic business tools for handling text, spreadsheets, I code mostly on python and fullstack development and I also game, legal and not-so legal copies.
Would Arch fit this description or should I go with a different distro?
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>>108592298
forgot to say but distro actually doesn't matter, generally speaking you pick one then change things around until its how you like. linux is free, both free as in beer and free as in freedom. go nuts. even if you break something odds are it can be fixed.
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>>108592267
Github is superfluous but Git is a de facto standard. It's extremely hard to avoid. Jujutsu can make it easier but if you insist on avoiding it entirely for personal use, try Mercurial.
>>108592275
>Would Arch fit this description or should I go with a different distro?
Haven't you already used Arch before? If you're comfortable with it then why not?
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>>108592356
ah, i actually don't need version control i'm more interested in just having a repo other people can download from. most code i find online is just in the form of a git repo so git is essentially the distribution method too. i don't work with other people directly and the way i write code ends up leaving really distinct stable versions that i can just zip into a release or something. i put way too much effort into automated self tests so its pretty hard for a new bug introduced to go uncaught.
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>>108592469
you're absolutely right, but i just don't like it.
i just want a imple, highly accesible, place to share software i write. preferably omething that i don't have to host myself or can distribute the hosting between a lot of people like a torrent.
i'd say the ideal scenario would be like a torrent tracker site that allows people to just upload their own code via bittorrent. the few anime style games ive made i put up on nyaa, but i'm not a game dev nor artist lol.
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>>108592555
i actually have around 400 of them if you group them by function instead of by file count. around 30 GB altogether not including the databases many need to function. its more than just a few shell scripts, and while they do work fine standalone the intended function is for use as one monolithic system. most of the code is python and c but there's also some java and c++. shell (bash) scripts are used to interface them together.
they're organized in nested folders by category, for instance the steganography folder contains 3 folders for autodetection, autocracking, and automatic sort/storing. each one of those has several subfolders with at least 3 layers deep for each top level folder. if things end up going past 6 i usually restructure them for instance my steganography scripts used to be part of my image processing folder which used to be part of my multimedia folder.
side note steganography is quite the rabbit hole, do recommend going in when you have at least a month of free time. things like steghide are a good start but barely even scratch the surface.
>>108592604
yeah i fucking hate how ai garbage uses the same language as me so often because everyone including myself reads my shit and assumes a bot wrote it.
>>108592644
depends on your setup and the driver. ive seen some systems install kernel updates through apt so i wouldn't be surprised if yours does.
>>108592648
because the users are predominantly gay or twinks. insert programming socks meme i seem to have lost.
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>>108592648
linux was made by this guy
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>>108592267
Publish a tarball + static web page of the repo with something like stagit:
https://github.com/oxalorg/stagit
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>>108592766
Yes, but the convenience trade-off of not having to spin-up a server for it (every system has OpenSSH these days, even Windows) is worth it.
Use Ksmbd or Nfs if you need performance. If you're just using it for say remote media playback in Mpv or whatever, then it's fine.
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>>108592766
smb is a bit faster but only unencrypted iirc
>>108592767
i like sshfs because it's reasonably secure but also literally just werks. it doesn't need more features but i don't quite trust it enough to use it over the internet without security patches
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>>108592821
Unless FUSE breaks something it's really only SSH that needs security patches though because that's the transport it uses and OpenSSH is very well maintained.
Don't get me wrong though, performance improvements are always welcome. It's good enough but it could always be better.
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Damn, linux users look like THAT?!
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>>108592899
linux no, arch/nix fags.
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>>108592191
After a year of distro hopping, I figured out that there's no ideal (no corposhit + just werks) GNU/Linux distro. I'd rather have a just werks, and use it to make my own integrated circuits and other devices with EDA and CAD.
The only just werks distro with first-class KDE Plasma support, and no Snap or Flatpak is Debian, right?
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>>108592985
Arch, unironically
t. plasma user for 5+ years
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>>108593047
Ok, thanks. I'll use Debian.
https://pkgs.org/search/?q=solvespace
https://pkgs.org/search/?q=z88
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>>108593047
Basado
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>>108593073
says the guy who has this shit >>108592985 saved on his computer.
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>>108592961
sorry, I meant Ubuntu, not Linux
>>108592981
so why are they hyping it up now? Is it in kernel but optional?
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On gentoo, is it possible to use several versions of java at once?eselect java-vmsets one single global version. But for example I want to play minecraft with Java 8 while having Java 25 available for other shit
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>>108593073
If you want krashDE that bad just go with Fedora.
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>>108593360
if you're using java to run a java or jar file directly i.e. java "example.java" you could probably add a abstraction to your bashrc (or equivalent) that specifically is the direct link to a different java version as >>108593371 said.
so something like:
function java8() {
(direct path to java 8 executable) $@
}
iirc minecraft has some bs launcher thing. microslop isn't going to let them open it up. i play luanti these days.
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>>108592191
cachy
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arch
i know, this has been asked a billion times. but i am reinstalling arch after two years because i am to lazy to clean my system. considering moving to cachyos because of the hype but not sure because in the past, i was burned by arch derivatives. they come and go while arch sits there like a boulder. worried about long term support. along with cachy specifics bugs and quirks.
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>>108593522
Cachy is a lot closer to Arch than derivatives like Manjaro.
Sometimes their performance kernel can break things but you can install the stock Arch kernel or LTS kernel, etc, alongside it if you're worried about that or just want something to fallback on.
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>>108593522
Cachy does have bugs and quirks that are specific to it, because it's not at all like Arch. It's an opinionated system that's set up for you, and it uses far newer packages than Arch does. Manjaro is a disaster though, that one is partial update Arch. CachyOS is, at the very least, not partial updates.
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>>108592191
i'm writing a script that uses transmission cli, is there a builtin way to make it blocking?
as in, i want it to finish downloading and hit the ratio target before continuing the script.
for my application i could make a external check or use something like tails to see if its done but i'd really rather have transmission just do that on its own.
reading the docs rn, i don't see any indication of such a functionality so far.
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I'm sure it's been said before but I wonder whether KDE is shooting themselves in the foot having the animations on by default. I switched over from XFCE and it felt so much less responsive. I know KDE is a little fatter but it's mostly the animations.
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>>108593704
this isn't what i want, i checked if it did it anyways as a side effect just in case but seems not.
i dont want it to run a script when its done, its being called from a script and i want it to prevent the script from continuing until after its done.
as things sit instead of downloading the files, doing what it needs to do with them, then moving to download the next set of files, its just opening up hundreds of transmission-cli instances and giving me errors on other parts of the scripts because, you know, the files it was expecting weren't there.
for the moment i have it just checking to see if the correct number of files are there and none have the .part extension before moving on but i'd really like for transmission-cli to just run in the foreground preventing any further input. you know, like the description implies is should behave.
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>>108593833
>There's a setting that basically bypasses the animations completely and makes everything instant.
I did, but animations objectively take up time as well. It looks weird having the animations on really fast, so off is the most responsive setting.
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>>108594138
NTA but I have pretty much the same attitude, and Flatpak is nowhere near as bad as Snap.
It's kind of wild the amount of fumbling that took place with Ubuntu, I would have recommended them without blinking a decade ago. Mint unfucks most of it but still.
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>>108594165
yes, i think the reason i didn't adopt it sooner was the ugliness of its default. another negative point i can think of is that it's very mouse centric (of course it is, haha), but that can be easily overcome/mediate by setting up shortcuts everywhere. i regret not using it sooner, its simplicity makes me happy.
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>>108593833
What's a potato in this context? 2000s Intel GMA?
>>108592821
>sshfs
>i don't quite trust it enough to use it over the internet without security patches
Why? Extra info on patches?
>>108592722
>ive seen some systems install kernel updates through apt
Never seen them do anything other than that. What other mechanisms are there?
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>>108592648
because being a fag is trendy now. Get with the times.
>>108592632
>Any good tiling WMs for xfce that's similar to Windows?
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>>108592275
I mean you are telling us that you used arch already so yeah if you didn't had a stroke with it then just dive in. It will do anything you throw at it as long as you know how to not make it spontaneously combust.
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>>108592821
>smb is a bit faster but only unencrypted iirc
It's faster because it's a real network filesystem with kernel acceleration instead of FUSE like sshfs. Decrypting at wire speed is nothing for most CPUs.
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>>108593761
set it low or turn it off if you like opening stuff instantly, KDE also have some useless background services on by default iirc, trimming them down get me to about 1.8gb ram usage on idle
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>>108592191
>*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***
The fact you have to make emphasis on this shows the problem with Linux. I've never seen this toxicity in any other community.
I don't care about the 1000 perks and quirks of Linux, the community is the most asinine community ever and I don't want to have anything to do with it, and there are thousands of people that think like me too.
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Dolphin takes way too long to search for files even though I have baloo indexing turned on, and searching for said file using the start menu works perfectly. Anyone know of a fix? It's like dolphin alone isn't using baloo even though it has access to that data.
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>>108593761
Animations, shadows and opacity are there by default because 95%+ of people don't use potato computers which can't handle them. But it's true that the defaults should be different based on your hardware. However, this is the responsibility of the distribution, not the desktop environment. It's the distro that is providing you with it's own default config files.
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>>108596512
This is beside the point he was making, animations feel like dogshit regardless of PC specs because they add a sluggish delay to everything. You can't have an animation without slowing your desktop down because you need a bunch of frames to display the animation while you only need 1 frame to do stuff like maximize a window if you don't use animations.
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>>108596491
does it still corrupt files?
i remember the hell that i was when using dolphin, it used to corrupt my files on higher counts and wtf was that buggy, unreliable and hard coded notification on my task bar? it krashed all the time, ridiculous.
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>>108596535
Found a fix for my situation, I was searching for contents not filenames (and I've turned content indexing off).
As for whether it corrupts files, I have no idea. I've configured it a bit to limit what places it searches and how it indexes them and it's been working well so far.
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>Buy a new monitor
>Discover DSC is sorta kinda broken on the nvidia driver
All of my issues with Linux stem back to this one company, it's impressive
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Installing Arch - does it matter what bootloader I choose? Should I use GRUB, or is there something even simpler to configure I can use?
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>>108596719
Absolute simplest is to boot EFI stubs. Although that's not relevant to Arch or any distro in general and requires neckbearding. And it's not very convenient as you want a backup kernel and that backup has to exist as a separate EFI boot entry.
But just saying.
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>>108596767
not anymore. sysemd-boot is now king. grub is headed to the graveyard.
>>108596922
oh yeah, that totally looks like the simplest option. thanks.
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grub is comfy and just werks.
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>>108597039
>grub has been handed off to maintenance mode
Because there's nothing left to add. It already supports several disk formats it probably shouldn't.
>distros are already pushing systemd-boot
Sure there are but I can't name any. Fedora and Ubuntu barely support it.
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>>108592191
Get grifters out of FOSS. Youtube is at the end of life, but there are many still trying to make a living off of a trashy means learned through books and reddit threads. These people should be called out.
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>>108596951
Grub is the only bootloader that can unlock luks2 formatted partitions and lets you have no kernels or any files aside from the grub efi binary itself unencrypted on the ESP while everything else can be encrypted including /boot
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>>108596719
Do you actually want or need to configure your bootloader? If not, then any works. Grub is what most distros use.
>>108597754
You could just embed an initramfs in the kernel EFISTUB and do the same thing without Grub and with better maintained cryptsetup.
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Is there anything like FanControl (https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases) for Linux?
I know I can just let the motherboard do it, but I find the mother board is way too cautious in its fan control, and also doesn't let me average temps for the CPU and GPU to set the case fan speeds, for example.
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>>108597906
>use hardware controls
What do you mean by that?
>go completely fanless
Not an option for me. Would certainly be nice for those who are able to do that.
>trying to wrangle the bios/os into letting you control fans is a waste of time
Looks like lm-sensors' fancontrol, and also CoolerControl, can do it, so I don't think that's the issue. I'm just looking for a neat way to make more calculations based on the sensor readings before I set the fan speeds. Not sure which programs offer that, if any.
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>>108597892
Is this something like LACT or CoolerControl?
https://flathub.org/en/apps/io.github.ilya_zlobintsev.LACT
https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol
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>>108597926
>I'm just looking for a neat way to make more calculations based on the sensor readings
bash. Unfortunately nobody writes stuff like FanControl for Linux because anyone who starts looking sees they can do everything they want with a <300 line script and loses interest.
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>>108597976
>nobody writes stuff like FanControl for Linux
>meanwhile >>108597937
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>>108597937
CoolerControl looks like what I am after. I saw it and assumed it was GUI only, but now I see their docs have a section for headless servers (my use case) so that's good. Thanks.
>>108597976
>bash
It did cross my mind, but I thought I would see if anyone had done it better so I don't reinvent the wheel for the dozenth time.
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>>108598150
Even if chachy devs were to abandon the project, I'm pretty sure many of their contributions would keep being forked. Since it's basically Arch + a few scripts I'm sure there'd be either another distro replacing it or a meta-package to turn your arch install into a cachy-like.
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>>108598150
I use Cachy mainly because of the package optimization and I suspect that the same applies for at least 80% of its userbase. If Arch added them upstream I would probably switch back.
But then again EndeavourOS is literally just some dotfiles and an installer and it's still fairly popular so Cachy will probably stay popular even if package optimizations are upstreamed.
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>>108598150
It's Arch with a tweaked kernel focused on desktop snappiness. You can use the CachyOS version of the kernel on a normal Arch install as well, so it's not like something is truly lost if CachyOS disappeared one day.
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Almost time for Fedora44.
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>>108598088
We're so fucking back.
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> man marriage
No manual entry for marriage
> info marriage
info: No menu item 'marriage' in node '(dir)Top'
> apropos marriage
marriage: nothing appropriate.
> man wife
No manual entry for wife
> info wife
-- Macro: int WIFEXITED (int STATUS)
Preliminary: | MT-Safe | AS-Safe | AC-Safe | *Note POSIX Safety
Concepts::.
This macro returns a nonzero value if the child process terminated
> apropos wife
wife: nothing appropriate.
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>>108599406
backup to external storage > filesystem snapshots > atomic updates
Atomic updates only protect OS files, and not against all cause failure. Plus large user facing maintenance burden. Snapshots have high performance overhead but basically work unless you have bad hardware or a bad kernel that eats the filesystem.
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I've recently had two instances of my Fedora KDE screen "resetting graphics" while playing Darktide on my PC.
What is causing this? How can I find the cause and fix it and prevent this from happening?
And most importantly. How do I know if it is a hardware problem?
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>>108599965
Probably just a driver fuckup. Check journalctl output for anything GPU related, try different drivers and Steamplay versions, or whatever you're using for wine. Check protondb for any notes about crashing.
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I removed every "cdn77.cachyos.org" from every mirrorlist imaginable in paru cause it was giving me "HTTP/2 stream 1 reset by server (error 0x1 PROTOCOL_ERROR)" in a lot of packages, yet paru still defaults to this crap. What mirrorlist does it use? How do I stop paru from using this crap?
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Which Distro is for me if
>aside from Firefox/Thunderbird, none of my applications need online
>no Steam installed, just pirate/emulate a lot of old/new games instead
>don't want to update constantly, only if there's the occasional security patch
>works with modern Nvidia laptop drivers
Last part is why I've been on 11 IoT LTSC for a year
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>>108600493
Nobara.
It's based on Fedora, which is quite easy to run, isn't bleeding edge and has great user base(makes easier to fix something specific/asking help).
You can install Lutris/Heroic Games Launcher for pirated games, no need for steam.
You won't need to update it as often for being based on Fedora, unlike Cachy that is based on Arch and it will break if you don't keep it updated.
Nobara has a package with Nvidia drivers, making it easier to install.
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>>108600055
>Probably just a driver fuckup
If it is a driver fuckup then what do I do to fix?
I updated my Fedora KDE edition and a few minutes ago while playing W101 via Bottles I got the reset again.
Did someone at Red Hat mess something up?
>Check journalctl output for anything GPU related
Tried that a few hours ago. Didn't get any red text warnings if that was supposed to happen from another thread I was asking in.
I might ask this stuff a bit more later on.
Guess the honeymoon with Fedora KDE is over for me and the proper glitches are coming in.
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I am at my wits end here. Audio keeps skipping/crackling while running games. I cannot figure out what is causing it. I'm still kinda new to linux. Running Arch with KDE Plasma.
Happens on any port with any audio device
Seems to only happen while running any steam games
I've tried adjusting the quantum in the pipewire config. Games seem to just set whatever quantum they want anyway.
System is set to performance.
Any suggestions?
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>>108596491
https://ss64.com/bash/find.html
Use the Terminal and the "find" bash command
I have this alias (a function actually because alias cannot use variables) in my .bashrc file for fast search on the go:
zfind0() { find / -type f -iname "*$1*" 2> /dev/null ; }
# To search foo bar files in root:
zfind0 "foo bar"
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>>108600930
arch bros.. our OS is a joke after all...
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>>108596922
LILO+BIOS is simpler than EFI stub. MBR/DOS is simpler than GPT, anyway. You can even bypass it entirely and do a superfloppy setup with LILO.
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How good is Almalinux? I've been pondering the idea of using it because Debian doesn't inspire me trust with the last year's drama regarding KDE Dev that quit. I've heard EPEL's builds are well maintained cause they're the same people behind Fedora, which is fine but I don't want to use it because my PC has random regressions with every other Kernel version bump.
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Not as good as Rocky. RHEL desktop is kind of a pain in general because you have to use external repos for so much stuff, and not just EPEL.
>my PC has random regressions with every other Kernel version bump
Just boot the last kernel retard. Change management is a lot easier to learn than working around chronically out of date software and endless 3rd party repos.
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>>108601702
AlmaLinux exists (like Rocky Linux) to give the people that miss old CentOS the ability to return to a basically binary accurate recreation that's also free. So unless you're putting either on a server rack then you aren't really suppose to use either as a desktop OS.
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>>108601392
Guess so but legacy BIOS and boot sectors SUCK. Only if they made the size arbitrary so it could fit like whole kernels. Or a whole GRUB lmao.
>>108601047
>How do you go about it?
From the UEFI/BIOS obviously.
>>108600493
>don't want to update constantly, only if there's the occasional security patch
So, you don't want a system that offers you new stuff?
Only update when there's a security fix in the mix of those updates, nobody's forcing you to update constantly if you don't feel like it.
>>108597754
SecureBooting with signed kernel+initramfs blob would obviously cover the same functionality. Nobody does this in the real world but just saying you can do all that full disk encryption stuff without the use of bootloaders.
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>>108601928
Any distro can play games. Your hardware may favor one over the other.
>bazzite
Avoid meme distros. New users should pick one of Arch, Fedora, or Ubuntu and just make it work. There's nothing you need to do any of those 3 can't handle. Trying to avoid the learning curve sets you up for worse failure later.
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>>108601963
Hell yeah
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>>108601939
so it's a good thing for my usage?
>>108601944
easiest to use in what regard? I'm a noob when it comes to that kind of thing. I need something that just works
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>>108601928
Bazzite was good then ruined by tranny drama bullshit, pure Arch just werks but setting things up nicely takes time and you can make mistakes along the way. If you don't care about anything other than gayming just use CachyOS ig.
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>>108601963
>I use Gentoo and CachyOS on the immutable KDE Linux btw
Distrobox makes every distro argument irrelevant (apart from the kernel).
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>>108601392
nothing is simpler than efi stub
>>108602011
pretty sure one of cachy's main "differences" is the kernel. does it matter? no. but they make it a difference.
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>>108602057
Also the v3 and v4 packages which do make a difference. If any KDE developer lurks 4chan I'd love to see them support Glibc hwcaps in the future for some packages like Mesa, etc. Don't have to do it for everything like CachyOS but for certain system packages it shouldn't bloat the base system too much or result in too much added build system time, etc.
Other distros like OpenSUSE and Fedora, etc, already do this for some stuff I think.
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>>108602008
> setting things up nicely takes time and you can make mistakes along the way
I'll definitely make mistakes
is there any other difference between bazzite and cachyos? aside from fedora and arch, and one being immutable
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>>108601721
He got metoo'd over some anisine bullshit, he described the experience as annoying in general
https://www.preining.info/blog/2023/03/end-of-support-and-updates-to-t he-kde-plasma-debian-builds/
>>108601765
I run most of my shit as Flatpaks or compile the couple of odd CLIs myself anyways, nothing keeps me over to any particular distro other than hardware support.
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I have an aversion to the AUR, yet some programs I want to install without using flatpaks are on there. I'm just about to use Debian Sid instead.
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>>108602086
>aside from fedora and arch, and one being immutable
you pretty much cover it, any QoL features that are baked in by default on Bazzite like MangoHud (FPS cap, driver-level VSync with VRR) can just be installed and used normally on both pure Arch and CachyOS.
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>>108600930
I was having a similar issue in GTA IV, I tried modifying the quantum too and it didn't help, deleted the config files and the popping stopped (kept PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=60 just in case but it seems to work fine without it now)
>also arch btw
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Is this the power of Rust?
(rustdesk on linux)
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>>108602518
Works on my machine™
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>>108600815
>what did you upgrade
I switched out a graphics card a few months ago.
Never was having issues related to the graphics card until recently.
Which is why I suspect that maybe a Fedora update is messing with me.
Otherwise maybe some hardware stuff has gone sour.
>also is bottles gnome
I'm not sure. I got it off the flatpaks I think.
>why you're using that on kde man
I didn't see anything about problems it would have for KDE operating systems. And generally I wanted to use it for more than just gaming like maybe pirated versions of photoshop.
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>got horny
>spent a lot of time looking at 3D animated porn on the rule34 xxx now
>I am wondering if I caught a virus.
I didn't click any links to other sites.
There were none because I had ublock origin.
Any way to really make sure I didn't infect my PC?
Installing a new Linux via wiping away the old OS is a good nuclear option, yes?
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>>108601063
Doesn't integrate with the file manager which makes it more awkward to use
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>>108602859
I have never gotten any sort of virus from that website. If you're that worried try something like clamav.
And yes if you're that paranoid just doing a fresh install would also do the trick, but you'd have to get a pretty nasty rootkit for that to be the way to go.
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>>108602859
Use Flatpak for your web browsers and you'll be fine.
>>108602892
In most distros yes because Linux is primarily a western OS.
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>>108602947
Huh, all right. Thanks.
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>>108602242
>I have an aversion to the AUR
all deb chads have, what do you want from there or newer anyway? try not to fall for fresh new things. sid is alright but i never fellbthe need to make that jump.
>>108602859
i just have my browser behind a firejail profile with apparmor enforced.
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>>108603369
It's less bad than it was 6 months ago but they still have a performance deficit vs AMD and you're still way more likely to have problems.
>>108603380
>Especially with the drivers used by modern cards being semi-open source now
This is bullshit. nVidia tried to get the kernel devs to take over their kernel shim by making it "open source" and were promptly denied. Their drivers aren't open source in any useful capacity.
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>>108603380
>>108603396
>>108603472
I like the Nvidia cards but I'll still to AMD, it gives me better experience. If I wanted to give the fancy new games a whirl I would go Nvidia but I just want to get some low end shitter card. Thanks for the perspectives.
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>>108603369
nVidia is still shit. It's "fine", as in "it works for basic shit". But with most nVidia GPUs you're getting significantly less performance and a ton of features don't work. Shit like HDR, VRR, Waydroid, Gamescope, etc. are all fucked up on nVidia.
Basically, any nVidia card you buy will behave as if it's a generation or two behind when it comes to performance, while features that AMD has supported since the start of the decade are not available in most or any nVidia cards.
nVidia should not be used as a consumer GPU on Linux. It is only good as a compute module for AI or crypto mining. And those two are basically the only thing nVidia cares about in general because that's where all the money is. Desktop and gaming use is barely relevant to them. Also 99% of nVidia users use Windows so Linux desktop/gaming is literally just an afterthought.
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I love gnu/linux
I use arch with i3wm. I could install arch myself and used i3wm's documentation to conf it myself as well it was great hehe :D
it was a while ago and i quit, but now I'm here again. I think go on with it making scripts to use procces commands control. I want learn sysadmin with my arch set up
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>>108603694
>hdr
don't care
>waydroid
fuck wayland
>gamescope
we're not all gaymers.
you retards act like nvidia is the devil, but amd drivers have serious issues as well. also, i JUST finished reading hn discussion of how AMD continues to lag on AI development, abandons development of cards that aren't the latest gen, and focuses on corporate stuff over consumer stuff. nvidia at least brings cuda to everyone and puts them and very near equal footing. don't act like amd is some graphics utopia. both platforms have issues. also, some of us are trying to do work and not just gayming. AI is increasingly important there whether we like it or not.
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>>108603942
>AI development
don't care
>abandons development of cards that aren't the latest gen
so just like novidya? also, old AMD cards have excellent community driver support unlike novidya cards. that's the whole reason why linux outperforms windows by 2x-3x on many AMD cards that are 5+ years old.
>focuses on corporate stuff over consumer stuff
you are literally describing novidya
>cuda
don't care
>work and not just gayming
the shit novidya performance means your electricity bill is 30% higher than it should be. you could've just used AMD.
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Just out of morbid curiosity I installed windows 11 on a new drive and tried it out, I’ve been using Linux exclusively since Ubuntu 12.04 so I wanted to see how much things have changed since windows 7. I currently use endevourOS and I removed my Linux drive and did a fresh install.
First thing I noticed is AMD drivers on windows are abysmal, I have a 7900 XTX and for some bizarre reason my games consistently ran worse across the board, some games were especially terrible. 40k Darktide is totally unplayable on windows, there’s constant microstutters even with the graphics turned down as low as they can go. I saw online that it’s tied to raytracing but I use RT on Linux and there’s no issues. Every game just ran worse though, I tried out crimson desert, starfield and space marine 2 and they all ran noticeably worse, and even older titles like FNV (virtually unplayable) and farcry primal. Nothing ran right, it was bizarre. The biggest issue I was having though was instability, it would just fucking do this thing where it would boot up, then freeze and then restart forever and ever. Nothing fixed it short of a clean install, after messing around I realized it was because of a security update that essentially bricked my system and I have no idea why.
I tried iot and it was the same story there too. The windows ui is also just flat out terrible, its layers upon layers of menus to do basic things and a lot of basic functions are just missing for some reason. A good example is that stupid gallery function, maybe I don’t want to look at my porn folder every time I open up explorer right? Well too bad, you can’t disable it short of a regedit that may or may not brick your system. Seelenui is a lot better but it’s still unstable and breaks since it’s a very hacky solution. With all that being said I can’t find a compelling reason to use windows, it just seems like a shitshow.
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>>108603998
Anon you're responding to a bot. Nobody says shit like
>AI is increasingly important there whether we like it or not
As if you'll ever be required to run nVidia(R) exclusive AI for basic computing tasks. On rust/systemd/GNU/Linux no less.
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>>108604197
i recently installed win11 and it was a mess. mid-install it picked up gpu drivers and resized everything and it broke all kinds of shit. i had to listen to the audio captchas of cats meowing and dogs barking because the usual way was unusable. i had to do a total reinstall because their win10->win11 upgrade kept breaking. then, once you finally get windows installed and start installing basic apps crystaldiskinfo search results (and other apps like it) go to a site full of fake download buttons that install malware.
(also 4chan captchas are really slow today, like their latest anti-bot tactic is to add sleep(30))
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>>108592191
Any idea what could be causing simultanius and incomplete window manager and network failures. They also get more frequent as long as the system stays on. The network completely cuts out, except for browsing discord channels, and discord calls. i become unable to interact with the taskbars, or resize, move or generally manipulate windows. I can still do things in the windows that are available to me at the time the issue started, and it'll usually last 5-10 minutes before everything starts to work normally again. I also can't shutdown the system during this time. If I have a terminal open and enter shutdown, or restart it'll wait until things go back to normal before doing the action. Even just what diagnostic tools, or places I could look to try and fix this. I only really know journalctl and dmesg, and they don't have anything pop up. Cachyos with kde plasma, wayland, ryzen cpu and nvidia gpu. It started after an update a couple of weeks ago.
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>>108604403
>(also 4chan captchas are really slow today, like their latest anti-bot tactic is to add sleep(30))
posting was completely borked for a while several hours ago
>do something else while waiting
>captcha expired
>do something else but come back while it's active
>complete 1/3 challenges
>captcha expired
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>do it again
>complete 3/3 challenges
>literally pressed done and it went to captcha expired lol
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>>108604496
Kind of sounds like a memory issue. My best guess is that you're either going OOM or your RAM modules (or DIMM) slots are failing.
Since it only started happening after an update, it could be that some process has a memory leak and is eating your RAM. Or maybe it's consuming all your CPU cycles.
Either way, just open a terminal and run "btop" and sort processes by memory use. When your PC starts going to shit have a look at what resource is getting the most fucked and which process is consuming most of it. It's probably RAM and disk I/O.
If you can't see anything in btop, it might be a memory related hardware failure. In which case you can use Memtest86+.
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>>108604197
>tfw my linux experience is the same because of how borked my install is
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>>108604758
Other linux installs and windows don't have any issue, so I'm pretty certain that it's a software issue. Some sort of ram/storage issue does seem to fit the bill, but I thought I saw that it wasn't an issue. I'll look closer into that side of things the next time it pops up and report back. One thing that might be related is I'm running zfs on root. There were zfs messages in journalctl when I was looking into it when this all started, but I figured that they were a symptom of the issue, and not the source of the issue themselves.
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>logged into the heroic launcher with my gog account
>try to download the witcher
>downloads seemingly everything
>the game doesn't run no matter what
>download the standalone installer
>install that instead
>works perfectly
>same with witcher 2
I don't get it
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>have iGPU and dGPU
>need to specify /sys/class/drm/renderD*/device/driver as an environment variable for something
>iGPU is D128, dGPU is D129
Will dGPU always be D129 or will it change at random? How can I always point to the dGPU?
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my brother didn't grow up around computers and need a distro to run some proprietary slop envolving gayming too. any reason to not install gnome+fedora for him? i cant think of any other good stuff ootb for a newbie.
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What recording and broadcasting software do you use for screen capturing and recording gameplay or PC footage? I'm specifically on arch. I have an Elgato HD60 external card, but as I understand I may be SoL for compatibility with Linux machines in using that.
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>>108605044
As a rule you never layer compression because after a first pass things are basically uncompressible. With zram this can also lead to allocation failures.
If you plan on the VM having to do work where it actually needs swap, you'd want to use hugepages to permanently allocate a certain amount of host memory for the VM and then set up zswap or whatever in the guest.
If you're just trying out a different distro or something with no dedicated guest resources, you want to keep stuff in the VM as simple as possible. Because the guest doesn't have a lot of information about real conditions and can't make intelligent decisions.
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>>108605479
For a VM it makes no difference. You're going to give it a chunk of memory, it has that chunk of memory. VM host is flying completely blind to the page table / memory management / swap happening inside.
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>>108605467
I use wl-screenrec, but it looks like that device is for splitting streams from a console to a computer (as well as, presumably, a TV). They mention OBS on their site, and OBS does work on Linux, so that is what I would go with. I use it on Windows and I've been pretty happy with it.
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>do a system update
>can't update my laptop's keyboard RGB colors anymore
>reset to ugly factory color after reboot
i don't even care anymore. i can't be bothered to care. can't say i'm having the best impression to linux these past few weeks. something is constantly breaking or not acting right. i can't say windows was amazing but at least when you expect something to work a certain way it stayed like that.
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So today I learned KDE has the magnifier bound to some weird three finger scrolling gesture.
It works like ass though, it's easy to zoom in and then hard to zoom back out again.
I happen to know the keyboard bindings for that but the gesture is really clunky. Maybe it's just my laptop though.
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>>108605835
Sounds like a skill issue to me.
Did you rebuild what was likely an out-of-tree kernel driver? If not then of course it broke. I doubt the kernels LED subsystem supports your keyboard, although I could be wrong.
What were you doing?
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>>108605493
a fork of a fork? wouldnt that be trouble down the line since he wants gaymes and emulation. whats even the difference between ubungu and mint, i know nothing about them besides being related to debian.
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>>108606020
i did -Syu so everything was updated. yes i manually tried reinstalling the driver afterwards it didn't help anything.
it stopped working after a force reboot (linux has been hanging on reboot once every dozen times, windows never did this)
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>>108606061
>linux has been hanging on reboot once every dozen times,
Sounds like a kernel regression. You should go back to an older kernel, or supported LTS kernel unless you feel like compiling the kernel from source to try to bisect the issue.
Also report the bug to whoever makes the driver. They probably already know but may interested in your feedback anyway.
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>>108606375
>not even obfuscated
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>>108605053
I never understood the purpose of a GOG launcher when the whole point of that site is permanently downloading installers and using those. You're just adding unnecessary complexity to what should be a "double click -> install".
>>108605467
OBS
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>>108605053
I never understood the purpose of a GOG launcher when the whole point of that site is permanently downloading installers and using those. You're just adding unnecessary complexity to what should be a "double click -> install".
>>108605467
OBS
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I have a Lenovo laptop, not a thinkpad, with W10, and now that's end of support. Thinking of putting a distro on it when I'm not feeling lazy. I run Arch normally, but want to give something else a spin for once. What should I go for? I think the only distro and derivatives of said distro I haven't tried is openSUSE. Could also give Nix a spin.
It's been my de facto programming PC just cause I had everything set up on there when going through school. Never looked to see if there's any distros that are tailored for software development or not.
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>>108607104
Anything Ubuntu based (specifically 24.04 LTS) is the safest bet for software development. The distros I'd recommend if you just want to goof around but still have software would be Nix and Void depending on what you're looking for out of a new distro. OpenSUSE might be a decent fit vibe wise but I have no experience with it.
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>>108607104
Go for Aurora Linux and toggle the Developer Experience mode which downloads and pre-configures some software for you. But anything will work. "Tailored for software development" just means there's some packages pre-installed to allow you to start working as soon as possible.
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>>108607074
It's way simpler to just do a single click install versus downloading one or more files depending on the size of the game (witcher 2 has like 6) and then running that installer. It's just that in this instance the single click install fucked up for some reason.
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>>108607114
Have.
>>108607187
I forgot about Void, might look into that.
>>108607282
>Aurora Linux
Seems interesting, though not sure about the immutable part.
>>108607764
Don't think I'll know that until I try. I'm sure it will be fine though.
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>>108592191
are there any gallery viewer/image editors for arch that have a "magic eraser" tool? it's about the only feature i miss from the default win11 photo viewer since i used it a lot to remove watermarks from photos
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>>108592191
Linux is kill. It was destroyed by standardization creep.
>systemd takes over
>wayland takes over
>gnome goes full systemd only
>major distros go full systemd only
>the illusion of choice slowly dissipates
Linux is dead. Not sure what modern distros should be called, but it's not Linux
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Any music management program that is similar to what Itunes or foobar is? I could go install foobar on wine, but I would prefer a option that just opens directly without some bloaty intermediary,specially on this old laptop,[spoiler] Im gonnna attempt to fix/mod my old iphone classic, or otherwise get a similar music player, dont want to use my phone for music anymore, specially when walking so compatibility with hardware would be a nice bonus, thanks in advance[/spoiler]
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>>108607963
>Void
I'm not sure it's worth using a distro that deviates from the norm this hard. systemd is a necessary dependency for a ton of software out there, even some dev tools.
>Aurora
>though not sure about the immutable part.
Immutable is a misnomer. It behaves exactly like a regular distro aside from having to reboot to apply system updates or package installs done through rpm-ostree.
When doing most software development you'd want to have distrobox containers for each project since that avoids polluting your OS with dev packages and avoids the headache of managing dependency versions between projects.
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>>108608022
>commonly used things is standardization
No, standardization is an enforcement of something to make it commonly used, it isn't something that naturally becomes de facto.
Another pedantic nitpick is that standardization does not allow for anything outside of that standard to exist, but you can clearly run and use an init system in Linux if you prefer so... Nice bait post?
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>>108608053
ll check it out
>>108608059
why do you hate it?
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>>108608070
>why do you hate it?
When you click on an mp3/mp4 instead of opening strawberry and going to the song that's already been registered in there, it opens a new instance of that song. So now I have the same song, in my playlist 3 or 4 times and its annoying.
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>>108608127
It's specifically suppose to be a way for an audiophile to set up all their albums. Elisa from KDE is also quite similar.
Personally instead I'd use something like Audacious to play messes of loose MP3s.
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>>108608036
I haven't tried it but there's https://fooyin.org/
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>>108608540
Wtf how did I double post? Fix your shit, moot
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Bros, I was watching some JAV but my boner died when I saw Windows 11 on the chick's computer. How could this whore use such a shitty operating system?
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>kernel branch x.y.0 gets released
>try it
>high chances for a buggy Bluetooth (or Wi-Fi or some other feature)
Do I have to wait for like x.y.20 or so until it's not? Is there a general rule of thumb?
>>108605937
Is she fine with Ubuntu's solitaire?
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Host's ZRAM or other sorts of swaps make no difference regarding the virtual machine, no layering of compression will happen.
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I'm looking into capturing small 10s vidya clips with ffmpeg.
When I use the preset "veryslow", the output video is stuttering like crazy. It doesn't happen on faster presets. Do you know why?
>>>/wsg/6128537
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>>108607264
Yes. If you reserve static huge pages for the guest, that's separate memory the host OS doesn't play with. There's also a small performance advantage.
>>108609010
>Host's ZRAM or other sorts of swaps make no difference regarding the virtual machine, no layering of compression will happen.
False. A VM is normally just another user process. If you have a VM that's in swap and the host tries to swap out the VM, that's going to layer compression.
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