>barebones kit
>tkl
>under $150
why is this so hard to find?

>>108592553
Oh fuck yeah another obviously fake infographic where you can see the size of the main cluster dramatically changing, as if a 96% has bigger alpha keys than a TKL

>>108592591
Calm down buddy. It obviously just isn't exactly to scale

>>108592553
The bottom configuration is a real keyboard, the rest are toys.

>>108592590
just buy a keychron k8 pro for $84 and pull the keys/switches
https://www.keychron.com/collections/80-layout-keyboards/products/keychron-k8-pro-qmk-via-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

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>>108592612
Fuck you. There's a war on 96% and I've noticed. Fixed the image btw

>>108592734
There isn't, but God I wish there was. Commit to 100%(+) or walk the path of the minimalist.

>>108592734
I just copied and pasted from the keychron site. You need to take a breath and relax

>>108592758
>>108592777
Nice try FAGGOTS

use case for 96% over 80%?

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Hall effect keys suck. Do not buy.

>>108592887
In case you want a numpad but don't want a 100% board, shrimple as.

96% apologists still cannot explain why TKL and a separate numpad you can put wherever is some grave sin and why you MUST commit to the 96% meme.

Or better yet, have the numpad removable/movable to the left. 100% or TKL, depending on whether you're working or playing.

>>108592294
Are these modern boards with PS/2 coiled beige cables? I swear, can you get custom-made beige coiled USB-C to USB-A cables anywhere nowadays? I'm talking classic, non-braided, PVC coated, non-aviator ones. Would kill for an F122 with one of those for the complete feel.

>>108592928
why is your keyboard so hairy?

>>108593103
i have cats.
they shed everywhere no matter how much i beat them.

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The perfect keyboard layout.
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>>108592972
those are Korean predecessors to modern TKLs à LA Geonworks
look up OTD

>>108592928
Explain.

Topre is OBVIOUSLY the GOAT but what's the problem with HE?

>>108593204
as a vim user all i want is an esc key closer to home row. tilde needs to be moved to somewhere else. who the fuck uses backtick other than boomer shell coders.

>>108593204
where do you intend to find that enter key

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please make the video

>>108592553
>
>option
miss me with that gay shit

I MEANT NOTHING BY IT
you WILL be GOOD

>>108592972
Modify a cable from and old broken beige membrane keyboard or a coiled beige landline phone cable.

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>>108593217
pic rel
>>108593235
for whatever reason they provide windows and mac keys but only take pictures of the mac layout

>>108593216
I like esc on the top left because it's easy to locate

>>108592972
you can look for one from older Vortex keyboards
I know their IBM inspired boards shipped with the same cable you're looking for

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>>108593250
>Modify a cable
Eh, guess that would've been my only option, aside from finding a factory in China on Ali that would be willing to make a cable to order since I don't think there are any more forward facing entities that could do something like that.

>>108593204
I can't stop noticing how this hobby's end goal is to bastardize the PC keyboard into a mobile touchscreen layout. Please pester smartphone manufacturers to bring back physical keyboards so that everyone gets something out of it instead of enshittifying the last bastion of input sanity.

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so many anons are active rn
imagine the thock if your long poles all actuated at once
it's a heady thought, can't get it out of my head oops I mean the Glare65
very, very heady indeed, yes that's what I mean by giving head

>VIA support
>75%
>in stock
>not Keychron
literally does not exist, I have been searching for days

>>108593321
you can settle for keychron, it's OK

>>108593429
I had a keychron and it was garbage, I'm not giving them any more money

>>108593454
Are you the retard that broke his keys from last thread?

Trackball below or above the thumb cluster?
I can't fucking decide, I'm about to literally buy two keyboards just to try both

>>108593777
no, my keypresses weren't registering properly within a couple of months of use

>>108593827
just visualize it
creamy thoccies or airy clackies
you can visualize things to that degree anon
I believe in you

im done being a key minimalist bros. compact layers are comfy but I've come to the realization that big keyboards can have good layers for comfy typing too, and also no weird modifier placement compromises, and then all the extra keys are free macro keys. I'm gonna become a key MAXIMALIST. the dream is a lily58 with an extra row and a macro pad in between the halves.

>>108594040
that's your fault, Keychron did nothing wrong.

>>108594074
just get a TKL lol

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>>108594074
>maximalist
>60% keeb
are you even trying

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It just works.

>>108594283
too bad 100% sounds like shit because the bigger plates don't sound as good
Geon knows this

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>>108590624
I BELIEVE IN YOU
make the thoccy video pwleees

For me, it's 65% with a vertical 4-key nav cluster

Why did people used to be obsessed with Filco keyboards when they weren't hotswappable? Seems like a huge pain in the ass.

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when I press an overlubed switch it's like
>*SQUISH* *SPURT SPURT* *SPURRRRT*

>>108594550
They were popular before hotswap even existed. Filcos were always overpriced and (at the time) had shitty thin lasered ABS keycaps.

>>108594550
Every keyboard back then was not hotswappable and there were little to no DIY kits
You bought a Filco because all the other prebuilt keebs were of lesser quality even if Filcos were overpriced. Leopold was their best competitor.

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>>108594550
if i could get one in stock id buy it just for a backup

>>108594550
You literally only have to desolder the switches once to spring swap and film them, solder them back in and you're set for the next decade

>>108594555
just buy prelubed switches

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>>108594153
yeah I thought about it but after trying split and column stagger, i can't go back to row stagger slab. that being said i don't move my halves around much on my desk i just set them to the tilt i like and they stay put, so something like an alice might be okay if they were column stagger

>>108594175
>pic
holy based
>60%
i'm thinking of something like this, which is 98 keys so more like a 96%
its ugly but probably comfy? idk how good keys in the center would be, but probably better than on the edges, and certainly a better use of center space than two tiny oled screens and empty air

>>108592928
too cramped, where am I supposed to rest my arrow key fingers while gaming?

damn it I love Nixies on POM

>>108594803
that's why based Geon makes TKL sized Venom PCBs
anything else is crampsville

>>108594803
on the arrow keys

>>108594803
left hand on wasd right hand on the mouse like with pretty much every game ever

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yes yes but can your keyboard do THIS?

>>108595751
No. If I feel like playing Russian roulette I use my real revolver.

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nice PCB bro

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based Geon took us away from flexshit

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Luhrmann tier
based Geon based GEON GEIOYOON

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>Budget
Max $200
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
I don't really know the difference between them too much, but prefer whatever is more quiet. Or whatever matches my current keyboard.
>Layout
QWERTY
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Preferred
>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech G610

I've had this keyboard for a good while. A few key caps have broken and are somewhat holding on by rubber bands. I don't really want another gaming keyboard. I'm on a Linix distro and I don't care for needing companion software. I didn't use Logitech's except to adjust the lighting effects in which I found out it can be adjusted manually. The most I want is a type of scroll wheel for volume.

>>108596289
Unicomp model M

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considering of thinking of building this. shoot it down

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>>108596589
Prefer more (thumb) keys myself, but if the layout works for you then go for it.

>>108596544
>buckling spring
>whatever is more quiet

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luv me latte beige

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BUT NOTHING BEATS THE CLASSICS

>>108594046
I can't visualise the effects on long-term comfort and thumb joint pain, anon
Apparently people also use their palm for below-cluster trackballs and I can't visualise the comfort of that at all without trying it

>>108592734
Tranny% victim complex is always sad to witness.
>>108592758
Nah, only the former, anything less just needs to result in public execution honestly.

>>108596784
make some cardboard mock up of both layouts
practice your hand posture both ways for half an hour
should give you more than a fair idea

I want to try out some keyboards in person before I buy so I know what to expect, but what stores actually have ones you can feel? Microcenter?

>>108597653
If there is a keyboard group that has meetups in your area you can try there.
Otherwise you probably just want to buy a switch tester since retailers aren't going to have lots of boards open for people to play with.

Does anyone actually make a decently priced keyboard with a southpaw numpad?

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So, Joe/Ellipse managed to revive the Model F capacitive buckling spring mechanism.

Why did no one revive the Alps Blue switch mechanism within an MX housing and an MX stem to be used on modern boards?

Just listen: https://youtu.be/OcHnqzgkzKo?t=722
Why can't we have this?

>>108597653
go. to. Discord.
you are missing the fuck out on such opportunities.

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>>108598292
if blue = clicky here
no one fucking cares
Gateron has the Harmonics now that mogs its own Melodics
that should be plenty for clickyfags 100% srs
CLICK CLIIICK CLICK

>>108598537
how will discord help me feel keyboards?

>>108598552
Find me a modern clicky switch that sounds as good as the Alps Blue.

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just got my wobkey crush 80 in, feels nice.

any key recommendations? not a fan of the cherry profile (also the fagbar profile doesn't match)

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why shouldn't I just buy a Keychron K8 Max and switch keycaps/switches out? It's far cheaper than any other TKL I've been able to find

>>108598552
>it's the Melodic but more tactile
The opposite of what I wanted, great

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cool

>>108599466
just buy american? I don't get it

>>108599476
Name 3 keyboards made fully in the USA with no foreign parts or materials.

>>108598567
local keyboard community meet ups
the whales always bring their endgame boards for everyone to grope
it's very cuck-coded

>>108592553
Got a keychron K2 HE 20% off during the amazon spring sale and i think it's pretty great.

>>108596589
>>108596600
I had everything ordered for version with trackball and of course I fucked up PCB thickness order, everything went to drawer for half a year, fuck that shit.

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>>108598613
it's time to move on and settle down
forget the sound you'll lose your hearing as you get older

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something really hot about letting guys you don't know touching your keyboard's body and caressing it and squeezing the chamfer and pressing against the metal and-ffffuuuuck just do it

oh dear yet another femboy rocking 100% ANSI
there is simply no way to hide it anymore
size queens demand 100% while normal people use smaller, ergonomic layouts

>>108600031
I hate keyboards with a floating switch design like that.

>>108600031
You have been posting like this for months now. What has it accomplished?

will a hall effect keyboard prevent the ghosting issues I've had with my two previous mechanical keyboards?
also are cheaper ones worth buying or will they suck? currently looking at akko tac75

I have the K6HE. I really like it. Takkatakatakakatakka

>>108600031
Your posts are so gay and retarded they've cured my homosexuality. I am super straight now. And fuck cherry switches.

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Realized all common keyboards are based on typewriters ancient design of row staggering which was to prevent levers from clashing.

I'll never be the same. Column staggers are now my life.

>>108601020
see >>108593204

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>>108601056
Still row staggered. Now from home row there are 2 diagonal directions to get to next row. This is not simple at all.

I've realized keyboards should be shaped like hands.

>>108601128
so you want an ortho keyboard. that isn't new. but they're pretty bad

For anons with a knob on your keyboard, do you use it? I don't because I already use the knob on my DAC for volume control.

>>108601189
No. Ortho is a perfect grid matrix. Fingers are longer than one another so column staggered is what I want. I got a Corne keyboard coming tomorrow which is one the most popular open source designs.

>>108599342
I have a c2 with gateron reds 3.0 and PBTfans keycaps. Works for me.

>>108599182
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008516012861.html

>>108601221
I have 3 knobs on my keyboard and occasionally use 1 for volume.

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Looking for something quiet, linear, 80-100%, with volume knob, backlight, and print screen key, under $100.
Absolutely need the volume knob and backlight, but willing to compromise on other features.
>Corsair K70 CORE
>Keychron V6 8K
>AULA F99 Pro
>SOLAKAKA KI99 Pro
These look pretty good. Thoughts?

>>108601221
i skip ads with it. it's good for spamming key signals, like right arrow.

>>108601524
not my style but thanks anyway. snagged these we'll see how cheapies go

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BZCDWNDH?th=1

>>108601559
actually smart use case never thought about this

>>108601710
>not a fan of the cherry profile
Why would you get OEM if you don't like cherry profile.

>>108601753
I'm a retarded noob and don't know what I'm doing I just couldn't see my keys in the dark so snagged these

was just gonna get used to the spacebar looking weird and maybe just not use it if it becomes a problem

I have a problem with dust, hair and general crap getting stuck in my keyboard. does such a thing as a flip cover exist? like when im not currently typing i should be able to easily flip the cover down, but i cant find anything like that which exists

Sell me on the 96%.
In theory it seems superior to the 100% because it has a numpad built in that's also closer to the arrow keys (awesome) while making the keyboard much smaller (Seriously, why is there so much wasted empty space on full-size keyboards), AND it doesn't have an Insert key (Who's stupid idea was it to invent this key? Good riddance!).
But upon closer inspection it seems to be missing the Print Screen key. And it puts the delete key right next to F12. Why would you do this? F12 is one of the most important Function keys and now every time I want to press it I'm at risk of deleting whatever happens to be selected. Are you crazy???
And how do I take screenshots now? I have to set up a new shortcut key/macro?

>>108601829
used 96% for years. it worked.

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>>108601810
They've had these since the early 90s. You can keep them on and still use them.

>>108601839
The F12/Delete thing was just me being silly (although deleting stuff while sleepy is more of a risk now), but how do you take screenshots? You have to set up a new macro/shortcut?

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>>108601829
>>108601848
Wait, I'm dumb, there is a print screen key on most 96%. I guess the one I was looking at doesn't have one, or I can't seem to find it.

>>108592553
All pixel keyboards are for gays except the 100% one

>>108600053
hallmark of tray mounted pieces of crap

>>108601843
do they interfere at all with typing? and of course, does it work well with mech keyboards

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MX Browns on CEM-3 plateless looks so delicious

>>108602030
>>108601843
Also I can't find one that fits a keychron keyboard. universal ones seem sketchy

>>108601810
>I refuse to use a Wolfbox to blow air over my keyboard
>I refuse to use a cleaning brush to clean my keyboard
>I refuse to use a microfiber cloth with isopropyl to wipe down my keyboard
FUCKING TROGLODYTE

>>108602030
>>108602044
I've used full-sized ones. They make typing less fun and make the experience feel more mushy/clunky, but they're usable and they keep your keys clean.

>>108602048
why are you making up shit anon. this is to help reduce the amount of shit that gets in, not eliminate cleaning entirely.

>>108602060
you won't need to worry about it in the first place
if you cleaned it every couple of hours
it is well worth it
don't give away the joy of typing without a condom over your keyboard

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which keyboard should I use if I look like the left guy?

>>108602254
the seneca

epomaker split 65 and 70, anyone tried it? there is only few reviews on jewtube by noname pajeets

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Going with this. 96% honestly looks neat and I'd like more space on my desktop but I can't seem to find one that has both a volume knob and the print screen key intact (while staying in budget). They seem to only have one or the other.

>>108602492
isn't this just a 100% with a knob?

how many sets of keycaps do you own that aren't in a keyboard?

>>108601539
All shit.
>>108602492
Just in case you forget where your caps lock key is CAPS.

I don't know If I'm just a pleb or anything but I typed on a generic $15 rgb gaming keyboard and then I tried out a proper mechanical keyboard and I had a 0% improvement in my typing experience, I just don't understand what is it you guys seek to achieve, all keyboards seem equally comfortable the moment your muscle memory catches up, not to mention this market is obsessed with incomplete keyboards making getting exactly what you want annoying

>>108602555
Yeah. I need something with pass-through backlighting caps, a volume knob, and the print screen key, but can't find anything within my budget. The RK ROYAL KLUDGE R98 has both a volume knob and print screen key, but the key caps are opaque. I want light to pass through them so I can use the keyboard in the dark. I guess I could buy extra keycaps with this feature, but I can't find anything that officially supports 96% keyboards, and when I checked the reviews for other caps, some people said the caps don't all fit on certain keyboards. I'd need to do more research.

>>108602619
Can you recommend anything under $100 that's 96%, has passthrough backlit keys, a volume knob, a print screen key, and with silent (or sound-dampened) linear switches?

>>108602751
the product is extremely modular. Any caps you get are gonna fit most switches, any switches you get are gonna fit most generalist boards you get (magnetic are a bit diff). Just get a board you like the look of, and get some keycaps that do what you want if that board doesn't come with them.

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changed keycaps from left to right

>>108602254
Topre

>>108603030
what board is this, was looking for a 75 that this fits perfectly but couldn't find ones that were this exactly

>>108603103
fl esports cmk75

>>108603030
based Dolchad

>>108603030
Soul Soulless

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Talk me out of buying it.

>>108603404
>talk me out of something my soul wants!
my golden rule for buying something
>if you have to convince yourself it's worth it, don't
>if you have to talk yourself out of it using LOGIC and FACTS, add to cart
simple as.

>>108603404
No advantage over other keyboards
What's your current keyboard? Do you have any need for a new 100%?

>>108603404
The blue unicomp logo on the upper right is uuuuuugggggllyyyyyyyyyyyy.

>>108603635
Just put a sticker over it.

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Mental health is inversely correlated with the number of keys on your keybeard.

Choose one:
A) RK ROYAL KLUDGE R98 Pro (Black)
B) Corsair K70 CORE (Grey)

B seems like a safer, reliable bet, and a good entry point into mechanical keyboards. Common layout/size, probably better compatibility with linux because it's from Corsair. There's an open-source driver/app for linux. Ultimate compatibility/versatility/stability/reliability. Size matters.
Low risk, High reward.

If A worked perfectly out of the box for my use case it would be a massive win because the size/layout is pure kino (In theory), but needs new keycaps for passthrough backlighting, and the uncommon layout/size might cause compatibility issues for certain keycaps (according to amazon reviews and people that have had to return their keycaps because they didn't fit). There have been some complaints about compatibility issues on linux. But it would give me room to use my mouse more efficiently in high octane battles while playing Overwatch. (I don't play Overwatch.) Cutting edge/rolling release/danger zone/reckless driving. Size doesn't matter.
High risk, Higher reward.

>>108603817
>non-standard layout
hhhhh why is Joe's F122 repro the only good choice for battleships

>>108603404
Easy. Unicomp is using worn-out Lexmark molds so the key fitting is ass, the general plastic quality is ass.

If you're willing to spend more, do any and all OOTB maintenance yourself, as well as deal with Joe in case something goes truly wrong, the Model F104 repro is a better choice. Fresh molds, better quality materials, metal case, programmable controller, and the Model F mechanism with it's native NKRO.

>>108605059
Get the Corsair
and there's no real difference in size it's barely an inch it's not like it's a TKL
fucking cope dude get the 100% ANSI battleship

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>OG doubleshots on F1?
BASED.
>MX Blacks on Alu?
ULTRA BASED.

>buy tkl keyboard
>decide to play djmax
>realize the numpad is essential
I'm never falling for this meme again.

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Man I love my Rainy75 sound wise but I wish it had a god damn numpad. If I were to change anything about it, I'd make it sound EVEN MORE like bones, and get a numpad. Any pre built recommendations off that? I wish some faggots on Etsy would build me a keyboard like that. I'd give them $400 or whatever they want for it.

>>108592553
What is the 4th keyboard form factor called? It's perfect, it has "everything" I need.

>>108605844
get a separate numpad
this issue is nonexistent
>>108605992
just get a separate numpad
your problems don't exist
open that wallet up
>>108606059
75%

>>108606126
>just get a sep numpad
>problem doesn't exist
sorry this solution just dodges the problem, so you're telling me this giant market has 0 actual good kb with a numpad that sounds like bones??? grim. kb fags are so brainrotted if these are the things they believe are the method

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>>108606270
it's not possible to make big boards that sound good
that's why every single endgame board lies in 60-80% territory
I'm sure there's material science and physics involved but the free market has made it so
so say we all.

>>108606290
Maybe I'm the retard then. Didn't think the size would have anything to do with it.

>>108606312
acoustics, bro.

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>>108606312
never call yourself that
you are the best anon

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>you can touch my Glare if you want

>>108607102
fool me once

is there a tkl wired kb with no Fn keys? multimedia and macro keys are fine as long as they are dedicated and not Fn'd. I've been searching for days and couldnt find.

>>108607174
W1-AT
Cycle7
Petrichor
all unavailable lol

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just bought a c1 pro since there are no good barebones tkl kits for a reasonable price

I know nothing about keyboards but got an orange rainy 75 impulsively. I did not know what I was missing. I feel pure joy every time I type on my computer.

Can someone tell me why the gap between keys on Keychron k3 max is so small and is this normal for all Keychron keyboards? Why is this never mentioned in the specifications? It's important...

Kailh Box Jades are still the king of CLICKS

What’s the best gmk 9009 clones to buy? i I bought the ymdk ones…

>>108603404
My chink hotswap keyboard mogs unicomp

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I didn't realize linear switches registered key presses before you fully press them. I have to type hard, deliberate, and fast for it to feel right. If I'm slow, sometimes I end up typing that letter before I've fully committed to the key press. In games, there were a couple of times I strafed by accident or in the wrong direction because I was already pre-pressing the next direction like I do on membranes. It feels like I have to fully commit to every key press individually from now on. And no resting my fingers on the keys anymore or being sloppy with my finger transitions (where I end up gliding over the adjacent key to get to another one). I think it might be just having to get used to this new type of keyboard (coming from membrane), but it definitely feels different.

Pressing keys feels really great, I don't know if I can ever go back to membranes. Would brown switches help reduce my errors/accidental presses?
Also, how do you guys type in the dark? I'm surprised how well I can type without looking now, but what is the point of having all this fancy RGB lighting if it doesn't actually illuminate the keys? It's kind of distracting too so I had to turn it off or use a single stationary color.

>>108607263
melodics

As I thought. 96% looks great on paper, but my full-size muscle memory is messing up my keystrokes. And I wonder if it's a good idea to retrain this muscle memory on a nonstandard size...

>>108607305
I use gateron reds, just keep practicing. I can type without looking. Practice equals less mistakes.

>>108607275
pbtfans or whatever

I've got Gateron KS-9 Yellow Pros (or G Pro Yellow V1???) in one of my keebs
Should I upgrade the switchs to G Pro Yellow 3.0s? They can't be THAT different right?

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I love my Halo75

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Take out all your stabilisers right now! >;} The only annoying thing sometimes is no top layer tilde, but I don't use Linux anymore so who cares.

What's the best tactile switch I can buy on Aliexpress

>>108607903
Quinn

I meant no Fn keys, not F keys.
let me rephrase that: no key that does two different things depending if the task/media/fn key is depressed. i do in fact want F1-F12 at the very least. i want my arrow keys where they should be and all my middle column of Print, ScrollLock, Break, Delete, Insert, PageUp/Down, Home/End. just no numpad, thats all.
if there is multimedia/xf86 functionality in the kb it should be on dedicated keys, not toggled with a different key.

>>108605844
name one (1) actually good game that requires a numpad

>>108607305
>>108607865
Typing in the dark is why I got these keycaps. Amazon shine through but black on white so they are easily visible in daylight as well.

Which mechanical keyboard/s is the absolute lightest weight? Anything carbon fiber etc? Are any keycaps / switches really light?

>>108608308
Float65 lol

Are keychrons decent keyboards? I just need a new keyboard to replace my old HP one
I was thinking the V6 Max
If it's good enough I'll buy, if it's great I'll be excited to buy and if it's shit then maybe I won't buy

Test

Test 2

>>108607305
>he can't touch type

>>108608588
With the firmware updated to prevent double inputs yes they are passable and cheap outside of the Q series.

>>108608588
I can't recommend them, they all shit the bed eventually.
>>108608705
That helps for a short while, but now my V6 Max has half the keys fail to register an input multiple times in a row. Their response to several other people having these kinds of issues was
>lol uhhh the plate is probably slightly bent bro fix it yourself or something idk lololol
Mind you, if the plate was bent enough for the contacts to be fucked across the whole board the stabilizers would almost certainly be sluggish/sticking.
They're simply just made like trash, which is a real shame. Might as well get any other chinesium board for half the price or less.

>>108592553
I prefer my keyboards uncircumcised

>>108609004
Based Fkeysbro

>>108609142
Yeah man, Numpads for life too

>>108609185
Based Blenderbro

>>108607110
it's got a real steep angle to it

Corsair or Keychron, which a is a better base to start from?

>>108609419
corsair is dog shit tier
keychron is a low mid tier

>>108610148
now only consider keyboards with a price under $150

Alternatives to Moondrop Tessence switches? I like how they feel and sound, but they break easily and start double inputting or not registering inputs at all.

>>108610421
just sample other switches
don't be a wuss
you have to feel it

>>108610393
when you say base do you mean barebones under $150? also what layout

>>108610472
>barebones under $150 (if it includes keys/switches that's fine too)
>hot swappable

>>108610573
just get a classic tkl

>>108610631
what benefit does it have over a $50 keychron that comes with switches and keys?

>>108608929
So any suggestions for any alternative brands who are more reliable?
I only want to spend $150-160 AUD

>>108610668
Actually how is Akko?
I just want something reliable

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it's time to man up and admit it
mechanical keyboards are SOLVED
Geon's O-ring gasket mount is flawless
Geon's top mount is flawless
get a Geon, others cannot compare

Wait, if I start getting double tapping on my keychron could I just re-solder it to fix it?

>>108610664
it's not a piece of shit and you won't be crying about keys double pressing after a week like people regularly bitch about but you will need to buy stabs and lube for the classic tkl because it's a custom, not barebones

damn a key on my rebranded outemu keyboard broke 11 months in. i tried swapping out for a different switch but it's completely dead now.

>>108611110
If its hotswap make sure the switch legs are in contact with the socket otherwise get a multimeter and check the traces and diode on the pcb.

>>108601848
quick question about full-size. how do you copy and paste stuff? I do that a lot and I don't think I could use a board that doesn't have that. Do you have like a macro combination or what is it.

>>108611449
what do you mean? what board on the planet can't copy paste?

>>108611449
what do you mean? what board can't copy paste?

>>108611528
>>108611555
I thought the first post didn't go through. dude 4chan is fucked up today.

>>108611449
>how do you copy and paste stuff? Do you have like a macro combination or what is it.
Copy: Right the text or image, select 'Copy' (double paper icon on Windows).
Paste: Follow the above steps but select 'Paste' (clipboard with the paper icon).
Cut: Same as above, but select 'Cut' (The scissors icon).

Wish we could Right-Click > 'Create Screenshot' too. Windows has a tedious macro (Windows key + Shift + S/R), and you can create your own in Linux, but I'd rather have a proper key for it because it has several options (key combo for print entire screen, another one for print a selected area, etc.). And having its own key means I don't have to touch the Function keys (I don't know what they're always being used for at any given time by a particular app, so I don't like touching them outside of built-in functionality). And some of them already have key combos with the fn key or another key (Media controls, screen brightness, etc.) It gets confusing after a while, especially if I don't use the same shortcuts on every system.

Any good qmk keyboards besides keychron?

>>108603030
Could do worse. I approve

>>108603030
>>108611927
(With that said, the nav keys are obviously not all the correct sculpt. Delete looks like R4, PgUp/PgDn look like R1/R2)

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>>108611758
>>108611528
I'm just not sure I could use a board that deletes some of the keys, since I use these heavily. Do you use a combination for it?

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>>108605059
>>108605290
Ended up going with this. The Corsair doesn't work in the Linux GRUB menu, and it hurts to type because the plastic slams right down into hard plastic while requiring more force to press. It's more uncomfortable than my membrane keyboard. The bright passthrough backlight looks gorgeous though and I like the multi-function dial and the lock lights. And it's nice to be able to see everything clearly in the dark.
But overall the Keychron is just more comfortable/compatible/versatile. It comes with extra tools and keys too. (The corsair came with just the keyboard and warranty, not even a manual.) And I can plug it directly into my phone and start typing. I have so much more space on my cramped desk to use my mouse while not really compromising on keys. (If I need to scroll I have a mouse wheel and autoscroll; don't need Page Up/Dwn. And I hate the Insert key, glad it's gone.) Has wireless functionality if I need it too, and if I ever get a mac it's compatible.

Bonus:
>The arrow keys are right next to Enter, Shift, Ctrl, and numpad-0
Holy KINO. It's like this keyboard was designed specifically to play RPG Maker games.

>>108611758
>>108611942
Wtf
Ctrl+X
Ctrl+C
Ctrl+V
PrtSc
Alt+PrtSc

>>108611972
So you have to press two keys? I don't know. I literally use it multiple times a day

>>108611976
It's the same as typing capital letters and symbols Shift+1

>>108612005
That's fine for once in a while but I use these keys every single day many times, it's one of the most essential keys. The extra inconvenience just to save an inch of desk space doesn't make sense to me.

>>108612017
Moving your hand over to those dedicated keys takes more time than just hitting Ctrl+whatever

>>108612039
I've already made up my mind, I don't want to give up essential keys.

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>>108611942
You can simply get a separate copy/paste cluster and put it away to save space when you're not using it, giving you the best of both worlds. That's what I do.

>>108611972
>using layers in 2009+17

>>108612098
You use layers every time you use the shift, ctrl, or alt keys.

>>108612119
I think some of you have just never had a real job if you think it's okay to hide copy and paste under a layer

>>108612134
>some people unironically think this just with numpads

>>108607305
Browns are really ideal because the bump is so small that it doesn't get in the way, but if you're resting your fingers on the keys it's just enough to stop you from accidentally actuating the key. You can tell when you've pressed it. There's a reason many people like browns.

But you need to spring swap (and ideally film them) because otherwise they sound a little thin and the springs ping.

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reminder

>>108612134
But I use Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V all day writing software

>>108612167
>There's a reason many people like browns.
There is only 1 reason people use browns and because it's a legacy switch that came with a lot of keyboards and they don't know any better. 99% of the people who try other switches immediately move on forever.

>>108612134
dedicated buttons are slower than layers when the layer mod is easily accessible. sane people remap capslock to control, which makes it even faster and more effortless

>>108612228
Real software developers use GNU/Linux. And therefore real software developers would be writing code in the terminal. In which case they would be using Shift+Ctrl+C and Shift+Ctrl+V. The only time you'd use Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V is if you were copying and pasting code from Claude, and ONLY to get a second opinion of your code, and not actually have it write the code for you.

I use select and middle click to copy and paste.

>>108612276
most software uses ctrl+c. if you're pasting something into terminal, for me it's usually from browser and usually into vim, which would be '+p

i use shift insert to paste

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>>108612098
>using layers in 2009+17
Yup. If I'm gonna be making destructive edits, it's gonna be in a controlled, isolated environment.

>>108612375
>insert
This key was invented by the devil. It must be banished from all keyboards.

>>108607451
Yeah, already starting to get used to them.

>>108612167
They're tempting, but I like how smooth and quiet these reds are. Gonna stick with them for now.

>>108612263
If I search for F1-8X sound tests on youtube what % of tactile users do you think will be using MX Browns? 1%?

t. tried ~40 varieties of tactile switch, Browns won

>>108612439
browns aren't tactiles

you are a linearfag

>>108612463
Browns aren't tactile the way Lichicx aren't silent. Who fucking cares, they're the best

>>108612263
people like browns when they own custom boards and have to think CHERRY GOOD or else they won't fit in with the rest of the tryhards
>>108612439
ah yes case in point
fucking lol

>>108612632
I picked it because there are many, many sound test videos for it and it's an expensive keyboard. That will probably be roughly representative of the preferences of people who are not new to the hobby.

I don't know where you people get the idea that there's something so impressive about Gateron, HMX, etc. What's so wonderful about all that derivative trash? It certainly doesn't sound good. Am I supposed to like the big crude bumps, or the fact that the bumps are at the top of the stroke (instead of near the actuation point, which actually makes sense)? Am I supposed to like that the stem wobble is reduced to a minimum? Sure, that's good, but half the time the switch press feels mildly obstructed, which isn't a trade-off I could accept. Or is it just that these other switches don't have spring ping from the factory? What difference does that make for me if I'm going to spring swap them to my desired weight/length anyway?

What *is* the case for these meme switches that everyone supposedly loves so much?—(These being the people who show up here every so often to ask whether there's a new meme tactile yet because they don't like their Holy Pandas/Boba U4Ts/etc. anymore... How many of these "superior" switches has anyone been content with for over a decade, the way I've been content with Cherry Browns?)

IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS
>Cherry MX2A-GUNW Unlubed Browns
>lubed with TriboSys 3204 on stems
>TX Films 0.15mm
>TX 18mm 60g springs (bag lubed with Krytox GPL105)
>Galatea CEM-3 1.6mm solder PCB
>Alu 1.0mm half plate
>clipped and lubed Cherry stabs with Geon wires
>DCS beige keycaps

Cherries are goated, they just need some love to achieve their true potential

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don't forget to tape your stab wires

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is the holy80 good?

>>108613147
god no
the fuck is that design

>>108601810
find a liquidation resale on ebay for a HEPA air purifier. make sure you wipe all your shit down after you turn it on so you don't have as much dust getting kicked up when you do things.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/167647122033

>>108613147
it sounds really bad because it's hollow

>>108613285
easier cleaning

I just discovered that my membrane keyboard which I know is dirty, I'm too lazy to clean it, is a mite colony. I always knew it had a layer of dust, about 0.5 cm thick but damn, I looked at the dust under a 10 times jeweler's loupe and there were mites literally everywhere.
Goddamn I'm fucking disgusting and I'm also very allergic to dust mites.

>>108612195
this

>>108610686
>mechanical keyboards are SOLVED
There's still no double-trackball charybdis available for purchase pre-assembled

>>108611936
yes I know, I was in a rush and just wanted to be done with it, I am going to replace these keys today
also the insert key is the tallest and stands out the most
which keys do I need to replace and to which R?

>>108613147
What's it made out of? ABS or Metal?

>>108613717 (Me)
I looked it up myself, its poly-carbonate (plastic).

>>108613833
It aluminium
https://kbdfans.com/products/holy80-case

lichicx raw silent small bump or lichicx yamatake light tactiles? big bump is still sold out and these are my options

>>108613845
The top is, the bottom is plastic.

>>108614011
No. Only the Halo bottom is PC.

>>108614029
Well something on it is PC and if you didn't know, PC and Aluminum shed micro plastics and aluminum over time that your skin absorbs with use.

>>108613955
if you want silence, get the silent one

When I mentioned that I use 10fastfingers to increase my WPM my firend asked me "what for?" I asnwered that it's because I spend a lot of time on a PC, so it would make sense to be good at typing, but he said again "what for?" And I was compeltely unable to provide a response.

Topre keyboards are the only ones you can buy for half the price second-hand, completely batter them, and somehow still sell them at a profit.

>>108613147
It lacks some colors, why only Piccolo is there? At least that can be fixed with adequate keycaps.

>>108614275
>And I was compeltely unable to provide a response.
Just say you like to be fast. Its that simple, not every fucking thing needs to have a "real" reason.

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>>108614275
channel your inner Howard Roark next time
>that's not the point. The point is, who will stop me?

>>108614275
>I use 10fastfingers to increase my WPM
>What for?
>Your mom likes 10fastfingers
Or
>So I can eat my 10fishfingersfaster

does anyone else use a linear/silent switch for the space key while using tactile switches for the rest of the keys?

where's the anon who said Type Rs can't sound good?
they sound good enough on this board
>https://youtube.com/shorts/7_7oQJK6S3w

>>108614633
MX Browns are endgame spacebar switch tier

>>108594328
>too bad 100% sounds like shit because the bigger plates don't sound as good
>Geon knows this
who cares.
its the best.
Ive had other keyboards an they all pale in comparison to this.

>>108614275
Are you really unable to formulate an answer for this, retard? Maybe you really don't have a reason then. If you don't care about getting closer to the speed of thought to reduce mental friction when writing down what you have in mind, and if you don't care about reducing long-term joint fatigue by reducing finger movement (by touch typing properly or learning a better layout), why are you even practicing? Your friend might well be correct.

I never tried to improve my typing skill desu, I feel like any and all typing tests like TypeRacer and MoneyType only add friction to my typing speed now that I have to read, think and type instead of just think and type, so it's not like I can get a reliable WPM readout out of those.

I don't adhere to the home row and only roughly adhere to my muscle memory in that general area while my fingers frantically flail around all over the keyboard. My brain just kind of automatically figures out how to move my fingers when I home on any given key. I'm def <100wpm most of the time but at the same time I'm faster than most people my age given how much everyone just swipe types on smartphones with autocorrect.

My reasoning would be that I spend a lot of time in front of a PC, my workflow is heavily keyboard oriented (Flow Launcher for launching shit, Total Commander for file management, Neovim for text editing, GlazeWM for window management, Vimium for web browsing) and typing faster means doing things faster. Literal speed of thought, I think of typing a given string of keys to do a given task and I do it in less than a second. The faster and more accurate I can do it the better.

I peaked at 35 WPM on MX Blacks (L/F/SS) on Alu

>>108592553
>no print screen button
all shit

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Eh, better than usual, I tend to dip to around 80 WPM, or even below it sometimes. I probably hit over 100 WPM when I get really locked in writing paragraphs worth of a forum reply.

>>108614881
what for?

>>108615005
Because I don't like mental friction or RSI

>>108614633
I did this on a board with clicky switches. Haven't made up my mind whether I like it or not.

>>108613955
"now with more improved [sic] lubrication" is a red flag imo, I'd get the small bump raw.

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holy FUCK
she looks so good

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>small bump raw

>>108615295
"Meh"

>>108615340
what do you mean you don't appreciate how the side design highlights the gap between the top and bottom pieces
it's pure wabi-sabi inspo for Stef Wolters who never actually made the Ontos
he can make the real Ontos with exposed gaps etched with some chink tier quote

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>>108611390
It is hotswap. I'm not sure how to ensure the switch legs are in contact but I swapped it again for another switch, didn't register, then swapped again, still didn't register.
There was a moment before I tried swapping the first time where it'd register (but usually as a double press) if I pressed it while pushing the key to the side.
A multimeter seems to be about what I spent on this keyboard, not sure what else I'd use one for after this keyboard.

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>"What is, is, and what is not, is not." - Parmenides of Elea
Engineered without compromise and without continuity, Ontos proposes an immutable order of the real, a unity that does not admit alterations.
>"Das Nichts selbst nichtet." - Heidegger
With Ontos, the nothing is made visible from three distances: far away, regular usage distance, and up-close.

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>>108614971

>>108616012
Thats clearly the bow and arrow button

>>108592553
I have the last one but with a volume knob. Yes I like she full version.

>>108616012
I forgot what that one originally meant but you can remap to whatever you want.

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>>108616012
That looks more like a crop icon than the actual crop icon.

>>108614193
they’re both silent

>>108614986
>english 500
>no punctuation
>30 second test
meaningless

>>108617072
And like I said, it wouldn't matter either way because you need to do more during these test than during regular typing so you're never gonna get an honest result. I guess if you retrain your brain for this specific task of re-typing what you're reading in real time you'll be able to overcome that but I'm not planning on doing so just so I can flex a WPM number.

>>108616012
One of the many reasons why I hate Keychron and modern mechanical keyboards in general. Always gotta get quirky in ways that are detrimental. At least gayming boards of old only ever did edgy fonts and case designs whilst keeping the functionality of what's written on the keycaps as well as keeping the layout standard.