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Anon from the last thread who had some very annoying intermitent wm and network issues. I'm excited to anounce that as soon as I started to try and diagnose it again, the problem changed. No more wm issues, or odd half death of the networking, but instead the nic driver just fucking explodes completely and doesn't try to restart. It's still not an issue on other operating systems, so I think something about the cachyos kernel hates my motherboard now. I'm going to do a bios update to see if that fixes it. Then maybe I'll attempt to, I guess install a different kernel to see if that works.
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all image viewers on loonix suck, i was just experiencing with geeqie and while i like the concept, its crap and suffers from feature creep.
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>>108610157
qimgv is the only useable one. Gwenview is fine except for it loading every file in the folder into a database every time you open an image. This can take a while for large image folders on network storage. Extra long when you're connected via wifi.
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>>108609893
4chan:
>God I hate black people, they're stupid and can't contribute to advanced societies
Also 4chan:
>For me, it's bash
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Does anyone here use XFCE on Debian 12 and have a working screensaver? For some reason this shit is completely broken on my (mostly default) desktop
xfce4-screensaver 4.18.1, doesn't seem to work even if I try to lock manually, xflock4 doesn't see it either
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I hit a brick wall tonight bros (i'm a noob, pls no hate)
Can't play dialogues in downloaded movies anymore. Its not a source issue nor software. I tried resetting the sound config and rebooting, no cigar. I get shitty dialogue and huge other sound effects when unplugging my earbuds, but as soon as I plug them in I either get no sound at all or no dialogue and only music/ambient.
I got the dialogue back only once, and then I touched physical volume buttons to increase volume (thinkpad) and sound was gone again. I lost the command because I used chatgpt for it and have no account (I already tried using web/forum resources, spent little short of three hours looking for cases similar to mine and found very little helpful info)
So far the culprit seems either some shenigan with physical buttons (but sound works outside of those multilayered video files) or earbuds. Idk where to go from there
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I fucking love linux
>power outage during update
>OS is bricked
>get into some issue with booting grub, and just get grub rescue
>chroot and re-install grub
>boot into grub but can't locate kernel
>try using snapshots
>doesn't work
>chroot again
>reinstall kernel
>everything works again
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>>108610721
I use Zsh
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>>108611103
>can't hear dialogues
lmao that is weird as fuck but I believe it, because I vaguely remember something like that happening on windows a long time ago.
Unfortunately I don't remember what the solution was, but I think the issue might be that your OS has the wrong idea about what you've plugged into the audio jack. Like, if it thinks it's a four-speaker surround setup but it's actually a headphone, so it tries to send sound to non-existent channels? Not sure. I think it was something like that. Check your sound devices and settings.
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I have a question about ricing, is it possible to have a simulation of Dwarf Fortress on the login screen? I want to try and make something ASCII for the login screen but not sure how demanding it will be, not a full sim like running the game but not just a video file to add a bit of varience to it
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>>108611103
Hold on I had a similar thing happen, thought my audio was fucked but it was just mpv not downmixing 5.1 to stereo, if that's the case you can configure it on your player or maybe there's a system-wide option somewhere
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>>108611795
So. You got something like /dev/sda that's currently holding your entire system and then there's vacant and unformated /dev/sdb?
I'd mkfs.ext4 or something the entire /dev/sdb, no partition tables even. Then:
>mount it at /mnt/whatever
>log out
>login as root
>copy /home/anon /mnt/whatever
>set /mnt/whatever/anon as anon's new $HOME
>????
Not exactly straight forward but the steps are really simple. In the real world most would want encryption on /dev/sdb
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Is there any reason to run BTRFS if i use a laptop with a single 256gb drive and i plan to place anything i care about in a NAS? I've ran Fedora 43 KDE for a while, default settings, and the perfomance is abysmal when it tries to generate thumbnails for anything larger than a hundred of pictures EVERY TIME i open the directory. I've already disabled Baloo and akonadi, is the thumbnailer shitting the bed, and smartctl says the drive is fine. My suspictions lie on the filesystem. Come on, is like 3GBs of Wallpapers at most, it's impossible a modern system chockes with something so tiny.
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>>108613099
It didn't, but if I'm to install it I'd probably want to separate my personal files from my system so if I need to reinstall I don't nuke everything and I'm if I'm installing native games they'd eventually fill multiple drives...
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>>108613184
>Use appimage, or flatpak.
But that's inefficient with my storage...
>You can assign where you save your "GAYMES"
You mean for any program?
>But if you use modren filesystem you can add drive and assign it to the same pool
That sounds like a good solution, is it with xfs though? cause I've been not too keen on using it since I can't shrink partitions on it.
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Hello. I was looking at the toggles in ProtonPlus and I found this label saying the PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND breaks steam input and steam overlay. I thought this was a problem unique to gamescope so what is going on? I don't see xwayland in the steam dependencies at least on the arch linux package manager so how does proton handle games on wayland if it runs by default on xwayland?
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>>108611673
I tried testing audio, linux does recognize earbuds. But VLC only offers one option (I tried MPV as well, didn't work, so VLC isnt the culprit)
>>108611859
I tried forcing stereo in both players' settings, didn't work either
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>>108613451
I'd say anything less than 128GB is when it gets annoying. Especially now that games are on the 60GB to 150GB range and they all want SSD storage (especially NVMe)
>>108613479
No, I'd put them on internal drives.
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Next week they will be teaching me how to use Kali Linux for pen testing, it will be my first time and while I already got it installed on the virtual machine and whatever I don't understand I can look up online, since I tend to easily fall behind others.........what could I look at during the weekend to learn how to use Kali and its tools?
I am not keep on spending 1K on the courses they are offering on Offsec.
And the Kali docs section seems to give the bare minimum.
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>>108613562
>I'd say anything less than 128GB is when it gets annoying.
Sure, but it's very uncommon for primary drives to be under 250GB. 64GB is already enough for your OS and your Flatpak/Appimage apps with plenty of room for caching and downloading some lightweight games or temporary media files.
>now that games are on the 60GB to 150GB range
If you're in the market for these games, then you're never buying less than 500GB storage. And at that point the extra 10GB-20GB consumed by Flatpak/Appimage means absolutely nothing.
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>>108613744
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/vmware-workstation-pro/
Just use the Linux bundle installer from here.
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>meant to go to bed a few hours ago
>instead lost a few hours going through my system settings and customizing them.
I have now learned how to make a .desktop application shortcut to add my 3rd party programs to the start menu. And my pc now uses metroid sounds for certain system sounds.
Its baby stuff as far as customization goes im sure, but right now im having fun.
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>>108613635
Is this your first time using Linux?
Kali is just Debian with pre-installed tools, I hope you know the basics, such using coreutils and what not, otherwise you should install Debian and figure the basics out first.
>And the Kali docs section seems to give the bare minimum.
Just use the manpages of the tool you wanna use, or if they don't have manpages then look up online documentation.
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I'm kind of impressed at how many programs either have linux versions or easily run with wine.
Basically all of my steam games run fine thanks to proton. Old pc games seem to run fine thanks to lutris. New experimental emulators like shadps4 have linux builds.
The only thing im really missing out on is riot games thanks to vanguard. I'd like to play 2xko. Thats the one game I would want windows for.
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>>108613979
Vanguard is too kernal invasive to ever work on Linux, so either have a Windows PC that literally exists to play 2xKO or stop playing it if you wanna go straight Linux.
Hell you could even download pre-installed pirated games and run the loose files via umu-launcher, and basically every modern and well liked emulator uses Vulkan/OpenGL instead of DirectX so they natively run on Linux.
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>>108613903
You mean like, the install location? I think you have to create a new install location through the terminal. Bazaar should ask you where to install after that.
>>108613979
Emulators have been targeting Linux first for well over a decade. Windows is basically the 4th most important platform for emulators.
Linux x86 = Linux ARM > Android > Windows
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>>108614090
>Emulators have been targeting Linux first for well over a decade. Windows is basically the 4th most important platform for emulators.
Why is that the case? I would assume windows would get prioritized due to its large userbase.
Though I imagine developing on linux first is a lot easier.
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Anything I should be mindful about with Parabola? I'm essentially jumping ship mid-install. I've read through the install wiki and its adjacent articles (like the pages on LUKS encryption) multiple times, and even installed it a handful of times, but I never stuck to it as a daily driver.
I know that Parabola only distributes 100% libre autism packages, so non-free firmware is a no-go. I vaguely remember reading something about no microcode neither.
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>>108614099
Linux is infinitely more open, from all the code to all the documentation which is in most cases significantly better than Windows. It's also much lighter and more customizable. Dedicated Linux (ARM) and Android gaming handhelds have been popular well before the Steam Deck so they were always one of the top priorities for emulator devs especially considering the large userbase. Windows currently being the most popular desktop OS doesn't change the fact that it's not really a popular OS for console emulation. That title goes to Android and Linux.
The only emulator dev who hates Linux is probably the guy behind DuckStation who was also a part of a couple of other projects.
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>>108614343
Actually, I used Zsh before it was even hip and trendy to do so, way back when Apple was still using some ancient version of Bash.
Zsh is genuinely a better interactive shell. For scripts, Bash is still the way to go though.
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>>108613669
You think is this shitty CPU shitting the bed?
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CPU: dual core AMD A9-9425 RADEON R5 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G (-MCP-)
speed/min/max: 1397/1400/3100 MHz Kernel:
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>>108611186
>>power outage during update
>>OS is bricked
Caveman distro detected
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>>108614858
NTA and using Bash but the one thing I want is picrel. Not sure if counts simply as PS1.
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>>108614930
Yeah I made a PROMPT_COMMAND but it echoes the exit status, it doesn't modify PS1.
>>108614299
Microcode is firmware. And you can manually pick blobs from kernel.org and place them under /lib/firmware regardless how your distribution feels about it.
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>>108614965
You don't even need to use PROMPT_COMMAND if you just want the exit code.PS1='$?'is enough. Don't forget to use the single quotes so it doesn't get expanded too early.
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>>108614997
Right. Although I wanted a logic to make it red when it's non-zero so I figured I need a function.local _exit=$?
test $_exit != "0" && echo -ne "\e[31m"
echo -ne "($_exit)\e[m"
No idea if that's retarded or not.
t. non-programmer
>>108611540
You installed a Bitcoin node and now the ledger is eating up all the space from your root filesystem? In such situations I'd configure the "offending" program to store its crap somewhere else.
Makes no sense on Linux to place those tiny binaries on other drives.
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>>108613898
I remember back in primary high school my friend took the sounds and textures from Duke Nukem 3D so that the bin would look like a toilet filled with piss and when emptied it would produce the Duke's satisfied sound.
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>>108613935
>Is this your first time using Linux?
No, I used Ubuntu during the Vista era for a bit and intermittently in these years I have used Linux Mint to breath new life in a old laptop, but I mostly use Windows 10 for anything.
Never programmed until the last month and now are moving onto learning Kali.
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Based, this
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>>108616135
I would torrent it, but I bought subscription back when I did not have working laptop and feels like such a waste to not use it. I can watch it on my ps5, but I want to be able to watch it on my laptop when I am traveling and I can't stand watching movies/series on my phone.
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>>108609856
> cowsay
This sent me down a rabbithole of the function
> fortune
Which I'd completely forgotten about, and is now part of the MOTD for the hobby system I'm working on rn.
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New Linux user (Fedora KDE), just got a new 4k monitor. 160hz.
When I am scrolling down in Vivaldi and Visual Studio Code I can flickering holes in the window, letting me see the desktop wallpaper through them.
Also, the monitor is G-sync compatible but when I turn on VRR the screen keeps going black.
Nvidia GPU, 4070Ti.
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>>108616763
No shit. The range assumes current prices. Price per GB is $0.07-$0.1 in budget products and $0.1-$0.2 in "midrange" or slightly more premium products. Exclusively using Flatpaks and Appimages won't cost you more than $5 even in the worst case scenario.
I have over 50 Flatpak apps (over 100 Flatpak packages) and the additional storage consumed by Flatpak dependencies is only 20GB. If I were installing software the traditional way a part of those dependencies would be installed system-wide, so Flatpak probably only consumes 15GB more. But lets assume the worst case scenario, that being exactly 20GB is "wasted" by Flatpak. In this case Flatpaks only consume $2-$4 worth of storage. It's such a nothingburger that I don't even uninstall unused software and I'm exclusively using Flatpak on PCs with 120GB-250GB storage without giving a shit.
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>>108616257
>crunchyroll
weren't they hacked recently?
>>108617028
oh fuck off.
>>108616980
are you sure you have all the drivers right? it's probably running wayland, so i can't help much.
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>>108617028
you unhelpful faggots just camp these threads waiting to be smug? "don't use nvidia" is an unrealistic suggestion but you already knew that. it's like you WANT to alienate people away from using linux.
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>>108617176
>"don't use nvidia" is an unrealistic suggestion
It's not. You should not install custom operating systems on hardware that's unsupported. Selling your GPU to buy a working one is not unrealistic at all if the alternative is your PC acting like unusable shit.
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>>108616994
Your dependencies alone are bigger than my entire install, i have alot of bloat
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>>108617998
Okay, but I'm not using a $100< computer so I don't have to minmax my storage use. Using 10GB-20GB more means nothing to me. I value the convenience and cleanness of Flatpak over distro repos a lot more than $2.
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>>108613721
>64GB is already enough for your OS and your Flatpak/Appimage apps with plenty of room for caching and downloading some lightweight games or temporary media files
I dunno, my windows 10 system partition is at 50GB and I haven't even installed any of the heavy programs like matlab, mathematica, msvc/msys2, etc. That's kind of my point, I dunno how much space I'm gonna need on my system partition in like 5 to 10 years as bloat increases and I pick up new hobbies.
Like I start if I start picking up video editing I will have to install that, if I decide to start doing engineering projects, I'm gonna need space for some spice software, if I start doing AI stuff, I'm gonna need space for that etc.
>If you're in the market for these games, then you're never buying less than 500GB storage
Yeah, but I do have some older SSDs at around 128 to 256 that I still use since games want SSD storage nowadays.
>And at that point the extra 10GB-20GB consumed by Flatpak/Appimage means absolutely nothing.
That's an older/android extra game I could fit on my drives...
Dunno how it works for Android emulators and normal VMs. Like where the virtual disk needs to be in the system, cause that's easily a hundred GBs of android games as well.
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>>108615063
>You installed a Bitcoin node and now the ledger is eating up all the space from your root filesystem? In such situations I'd configure the "offending" program to store its crap somewhere else.
I'm asking how I'd deal with running out of space or needing more space on the system partition on linux, like can I install programs to other drives as I'd do on windows or is my only choice expanding the partition or moving the system to a bigger drive? I don't know how it works on linux.
On windows I can just choose a different install location or just copy and paste the program somewhere else, I don't know how it is on linux.
Someone mentioned a shared pool, and that's seems like the closest to what I'd consider ideal.
>Makes no sense on Linux to place those tiny binaries on other drives.
I don't know how it works on linux, on windows the programs normally have a folder with all their files in it, so you can just put that somewhere else, where the entire folder can be 10s of GBs for the bigger programs, sounds very similar to appimage or flatpack but they still use some system libraries, not sure how different it is.
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>can do gaming about aswell as linux could 15 years ago
>hardware support is lacking
>general software support is inferior
Is there any point on using BSD if you're not a corporation? What would be the usecase of choosing BSD over linux other than a fileserver of some sort?
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>>108614382
I forgot to mention that I'll be installing it on an X230, modded to accommodate a libre wifi card.
For my desktop, I think I'll just go with Artix.
>>108614965
I think the issue regarding microcode was that it's not distributed as a package like how it is on Arch.
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>>108618400
>Too niche for people to care to make malware
>No packaging issues for software development
>Maybe even more private than most Linux distributions?
The usecase is: you're either a hobbist wriitng your own software or a schizo who hates the anti-Christ. Or you just browse the net and nothing else.
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>>108618439
So looking at the package history apparently it's because krita 5 depended on qt5 and it's been EOL for years so gentoo is finally dropping support for it, but krita 6 is apparently a broken piece of shit so isn't able to be stabilised
Fucking amazing. Whatever I'll just it to my accept_keywords but it's insane that a major desktop application like this does not have a working stable version that can be packaged
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>>108618578
Btrfs is good as long as you don't a) use RAID5/6 and b) fill it up to literally 100%. As long as you don't do either of those things it's fantastic. You get snapshots and checksumming which are great for peace of mind.
Otherwise just ext4
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>>108618813
https://www.gnu.org/software/ed/manual/ed_manual.html
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>>108618893
Justwerks is a matter of how well your hardware supports Linux not so much the distro. It would be foolish to go balls deep in Linux with no backup plan if you don't know whether it runs well on your PC first.
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>>108613349
>Should I avoid arch if I don't want to use the AUR?
AVOID THIS SHIT for sure. You wanna tinkering? Just skip it and go to next level - Gentoo.
Want install and forget - Mint\Debian.
Stable system for vidya gayming - Nobara. Custom kernel contains ALL OF Cachy has and even above.
https://wiki.nobaraproject.org/modifications/kernel
>>108613379
>Arch is still a very good distro
> even if you don't want to use the AUR
All the security packages are on the AUR. None of them in the main repos. Explain it. WHY? USE CASE?
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-hardened-lts
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/zfs-linux-hardened
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-hardened-versioned-bin
etc.
What we talking about? dat tranny distro and any derivatives is just a trash (cachy too).
Arch is just a Gentoo for lowIQ nig/g/ers.
you can check some side projects like CoolRune https://github.com/Michael-Sebero/Algiz-Linux if you like Arch/Artix
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>>108618900
I've never tried with wine but compiling things is often not that hard, you might need to hunt down some dependencies is all
Unless you get unlucky and the build fails, but you do have to get unlucky for that
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>>108618893
Pretty much, yes. But to be fair, Mint's capability is given almost exclusively by Ubuntu and Debian. As of late, Mint's been left behind quite a bit by other distros.
So, unless you REALLY hate snaps, you'd be better off going with Ubuntu.
Mint just announced their next version is coming until at least end of the year and it's going to be based off Ubuntu coming off next week, so newer hardware will be better supported there.
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>>108613349
Artix is a fine distro to use if you don't have the time for gentoo
I actually use gentoo for work, but I put Artix on my gaming desktop because I just wanted to ditch windows and couldn't be fucked to set up a new gentoo system
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>>108618304
>I don't know how it works on linux, on windows the programs normally have a folder with all their files in it
On Linux all you got is one big C:\Windows\system32, there are no separated program directories. It's one big mess of binaries and libraries and that's why it's so small as stuff is shared.
>like can I install programs to other drives
Not out of the box but why would anyone do that regardless? Programs are tiny.
What people usually have is a big home directory and they sometimes host it elsewhere. That's where *Steam games* goto btw, Steam games aren't system stuff, they are user stuff.
>>108618416
Some blobs are hinky. Firmware for Intel processors and picrel aren't hosted at kernel.org for some reason.
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>>108619780
The downside of a single centralised mirror. The main archives are distributed so you can always use a different mirror but the security updates deliberately aren't and are centralised because they don't want to be in a potential situation where a mirror could potentially be withholding security updates.
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>>108618304
>/bin/
That is where all your binaries are
>/[insert user name here]/ or /user/ or "userspace"/"usespace"
That is your user directory, you'll have your Downloads, Pictures,Videos, and some other things go. By default most if not all of your programs, non-system required binaries, personal (aka no global installs) installs, and libraries. Most of the folders are also hidden as well and generally start with a period. For example: You want to play windows games on Linux so you install wine via the terminal, if you wanted to look in the folder you would go to /home/, unhide the files if your file manager doesn't trust you, and then you'll find it sitting in there as .wine, you can also find
>/home/
Where multiple users are stored, if you are the only person using the computer, you should only have 1.
>/root/ or "/"
>Yes, /root/ is expressed with just a /, its called /root/ but just know that if you just see "/" it also means /root/
The top of the folder chain where /home/ is stored along with other globals.
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>>108619855
Archives are down too.
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>>108620165
Is it the whole OS or just the DE? What DE do you use? Memes aside I've had KDE actually crash when I move hundreds of GBs of data from one drive to another. Happened on Windows too though. I assume it just gets overloaded. It's best to use the mv command.
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>>108616980
It's likely an Nvidia driver issue. Either you need to install/update the proprietary driver or if you already did all that you may need to tweak some settings. For some reason when I installed Fedora KDE onto an Intel/Nvidia gaymer laptop, even though I said yes to non-free repos it didn't download the driver so I had to do some chroot nonsense to tell it to actual ly install it. Fedora and Nvidia don't seem to play nice.
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>>108618893
Depends on your usecase. But currently Linux Mint, Fedora KDE, and CachyOS are the hot newbie picks. You can also substitute them for alternatives very easily. I'd recommend finding 3 you find interesting, installing them and seeing how they feel + install a few program you absolutely want. Once you've tested 3 options, you'll have a good idea of which was your favorite and if you want apt from Linux Mint and KDE from Fedora you can install Kubuntu, or if you like Arch's package availability and AUR but dislike CachyOS's themes and them using their own repos for everything you could use EndevourOS or ArchInstall. This helps prevent you from Distro hopping or quitting because you picked a bad Distro. It should take one afternoon of your time and it'll save you time in the long run.
But yes, if you want the safest possible answer, assuming you're not wanting to tweak, min-max your frames in gaming, want the newest hotest meme software, and so on, Linux Mint is the best choice. If you do want those things and won't self-delete if you have to update mirrors or fix a dependency conflict then you want Arch. Fedora is the middle ground between those two, but sucks with Nvidia until you set it up correctly.
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>>108618893
No. The "just works" distros are now Universal Blue distros (Aurora, Bluefin, Bazzite). Mint is half a decade behind those in terms of progress. If you didn't want to switch to Mint when Windows 10 was released you probably won't like it now either.
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>>108618776
Quickshell seems interesting, but Dank Material Shell rsped my cursor beyond belief and Noctalia is kinda ugly. I just wish DMS worked correctly instead of causing my cursor to chimp out randomly either by spazzing out without movement or moving like sludge. I isolated the issue to DMS, tried it on CachyOS and Void. Been an issue for a month at least. Maybe longer.
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>>108620779
Isn't the point of those to install everything via flstpak despite the fact that many flatpaks are out of date, community maintained, or just not available? Or is it more like Nix where you can permanently add packages to your immutable setup and it updates correctly.
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>>108620796
Im talking about a quick first impressions. If you don't like how it feels out of the box + installing/setting up your 3/5 most important programs then its probably not a good choice. Though I agree, if you really want to experience a Distro you'll need to spend some time with it, but I feel like that's more for Linux enthusiasts not Windows refugees.
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>>108620798
>many flatpaks are out of date, community maintained, or just not available
The same applies to distro packages but to a significantly higher degree. That's why people have been moving to flatpaks in the past 8 years. They're maintained much better.
>Or is it more like Nix where you can permanently add packages to your immutable setup and it updates correctly.
Yes. You can install software from Fedora's repos and you can install .rpm packages.
The point is these distros do a much better job at being "newbie friendly". They're set up better by default, they use KDE or GNOME instead of severely outdated/featureless/niche DEs, their update system is infinitely more stable so you're never going to have to manually intervene in updates/upgrades like many people do on Ubuntu/Mint/Arch/etc..
>>108620820
No matter how much of a "piece of shit" you think GNOME is, it's still better than the DEs Mint offers out of the box.
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>>108620808
out of the box feel is pointless in an evironment where you're not expected to just eat up what's in the box. And many, many things in the linux world are just simply dsitro-agnostic. Especially things you'd see at first glance are tied to the DE, not your distro.
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How do I get FSR 4.0.2 to work on STALKER 2? I'm using Proton GE 10-34 to get FSR 4 right now, but it's the version from like Feb 2025 and I would really like to get the newer version. All I had to do for Cyberpunk was replace the DLL in the game directory and that was it, but when I try doing that with STALKER 2 the game just crashes on startup. Why are the guys at AMD such knob heads?
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>>108620844
>No matter how much of a "piece of shit" you think GNOME is
Everyone I know who tried it thinks ubuntu has a shit desktop environment. You should recommend something like xubuntu or kubuntu to a windows user instead.
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>>108619767
I see, so in general, at least non-game installs should be much smaller, but what would I do in the case I run out of space on the system partition? If I'm using a paritition inside a bigger drive I imagine I can try to expand it, but can I assign a new drive to also be part of the system or something like that?
>>108619865
So if I need more space for my /home I can just put the mount points for new drives inside of it? Assuming that even is necessary since you mention that that some stuff goes there, but I'm not even sure if the system is looking for a directory there specifically.
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>>108620846
From XLibre HISTORY.md:
>This is an independent project, not at all affiliated with BigTech or any of their subsidiaries or tax evasion tools, nor any political activists groups, state actors, etc. It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Anybody who's treating others nicely is welcomed.
Arch basically interpreted that as FUCK TROONS FUCK NIGGERS GTKWRN 1488 BLAZE IT FAGGOT.
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>>108620856
>out of the box feel is pointless in an evironment where you're not expected to just eat up what's in the box.
That's not really the case. People who want to configure everything themselves would just use Arch. But that's not most people and not even most Linux users. Even most Linux users want as good as possible out of the box experience. That's the whole reason we have distributions in the first place. Otherwise there'd be no reason for Ubuntu or Mint to exist when you can use Debian and manually configure it to give you the Ubuntu or Mint experience. There'd be no reason for Bazzite to exist when you can use Fedora Kinoite. There'd be no reason for Cachy or Endeavour to exist when you can just use Arch.
Out of the box experience is extremely, extremely important.
>>108620880
>Everyone I know who tried it thinks ubuntu has a shit desktop environment.
I've seen a ton of people who like it or like some parts of it which are not there in other DEs.
And you can customize GNOME a ton if you don't like the defaults or Ubuntu defaults. Just look at ZorinOS. People who use it fucking love the DE and nobody thinks about it being GNOME.
It's more likely that the people you know who tried Ubuntu don't like the way Ubuntu customizes GNOME rather than hating GNOME itself. Which, as the other anon points out, is an Ubuntu issue. Ubuntu has been total shit in the past 5-8 years. A new user would be better off on an Arch or Fedora distro. Which is why Bluefin and Bazzite are good beginner distros if GNOME is what you want. Or I guess ZorinOS since it at least makes Winbabies comfortable and is still Ubuntu based.
>Xubuntu
Not a good recommendation because it looks like shit and Xfce is worse than KDE and GNOME.
>Kubuntu
Not a good recommendation because Ubuntu has an awful KDE implementation since KDE is not made for LTS distros. A user is better off on Aurora or Ultramarine.
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>>108620844
Flatpak and Snap happened when they did because large companies were giving out old LTS distros on employee laptops and users were mad they were stuck on old packages. This is a good sign of mass adoption because IT isn't going to ship a rolling distro - it'll either be fixed point LTS or, soon, bootc based.
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>>108620905
>I see, so in general, at least non-game installs should be much smaller,
Bruh, any Linux system out there takes like 5 to 25GB.
>game installs
Again, that's user data. Equivalent to hosting anime pics on your home directory.
>but what would I do in the case I run out of space on the system partition
Figure out the offender. Some methods are bind mounts, hard links and symbolic links which let you place directories elsewhere. For example Gentoo uses some directory under /var/cache for the build process which can momentarily take up space.
But in real life nobody seems to have any problems with the size of their root filesystem - the system partition.
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let's say i have a document on a separate HDD. if i open it and keep it open all day without doing much with it, does it keep the HDD spinning all day or only when i write changes to it?
t. needs a small txt to-do list to function and my small business running
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>>108609856
So I've been using CachyOS for about a week now, and honestly, I think I'm going to stick with it for a while because it just works.
Yes, I still have to do a lot of workarounds, but it wasn't as bad as when I tried out PopOS! a year ago. Back then, there was a lot of skill issue involved too.
Anyway, now my biggest concern is the desktop style.
I'm struggling to make it look pretty. Having a lot of choices is both a pro and a con.
I still have no idea what icons I should go with, what the right color combination is, or how to manage the notification pop-ups because they look so ugly. And above all, what do I do with Dolphin? Because it's so ugly.
I'm tempted to move to Hyprland, but I'm not sure if it's going to be worse for me, especially since I love the ability to create icons on the desktop.
What do anons think? I'm kind of lost, I can't lie.
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>>108621281
i think that depends on some power saving setting but i'm not too familiar with it
it's possible to have it work either way
>https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hdparm#Power_management_configuratio n
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>>108621260
No. It's the Docker paradigm.
>>108621288
>I'm struggling to make it look pretty
>I'm kind of lost, I can't lie.
Stop wasting time on UI customization especially if you don't have any artistic vision. You'll never do it right and you'll just waste your time. Considering there aren't really that many good KDE themes you should just switch to the Breeze Twilight theme, or install something that doesn't look too different like the Vapor theme. Those are good enough.
Honestly customizing KDE is a lot more annoying and difficult than customizing GNOME unless you stick to well maintained global themes.
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>>108621348
I use Breeze as a base and keep adding stuff to my needs.
Yeah Gnome is definitely easier to implement, less painful and I'd say its default look way better than KDE, but I don't want to switch to Gnome, Gnome looks rather... boring..? It doesn't feel like I'm using Linux so I kinda hate that. a bit pretentious, sure.
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Let's say I have two (or more) devices running the same distribution/architecture and they store their downloaded packages at /var/cache/packages. Now the thing is I don't want to waste bandwidth redownloading anything and want to share whatever downloads the devices already got. What are some ways of accomplishing this? One of those devices is a server that's always on and /var/cache/packages as a location is configurable, if that makes any difference.
>>108621260
Why would it be? It's a package management system.
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>>108621288
My issue with customization is that I would like to keep it consistent across apps, and the only palette/theme that really has a significant adoption is Catpuccin. It's okay but I'd prefer slightly different colors.
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