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Tech Workers of the world, unite! - edition
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Wrong one. Previous >>108601192
I need to sleep...
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Anyone want to recruit a 33 year old that knows a little bit of everything, has a 15 year employment gap, no degree, and doesn't have any kind of projects or portfolios to show any kind of knowledge? Any government agencies out there feel free to hit a brother up.
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>15 year unemployment gap
Get GAPED anon.
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post me your redacted resume.
i must be fucking something up. i apply to jobs that i feel like are an absolute slam dunk and i hear fuckin nothing back. i've got like 4 years of experience doing applied ML work for robotics. where the fuck are the jobs?
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>>108612744
8 years at small and medium fintechs
2 years of CS education
>i've got like 4 years of experience doing applied ML work for robotics
your job is in China
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>>108613222
while it's not that bad for me, it has made me incredibly lazy, and I already was a lazy person to begin with
this cannot end well but the CTO wants what the CTO wants and the token usage must be kept up
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I had to assess the functions of about 30 system integrations, their business owners, the impacts of their not functioning, and a final go/no-go summary. AI with some oversight allowed me to do this with no issue. This would have previously required at least a dozen people in a meeting.
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>>108613227
This sounds comfy desu
here I am in the jeet mines hand coding my industrial controller and pulling my hair out
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>>108612744
ios + aws developer (3 apps accepted on the app store) (~4.5 yoe, no degree)
>1.5 years at a startup
>3 years at small company
>1 year unemployed grinding leetcode
>a bunch of projects
>currently working helldesk
i miss my old job so much
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I'm coming up to 7 years at my current company, am I an idiot for not moving? My pay is good, interesting work, chill coworkers and managers, and I'm still progressing in my career.
I've had my eye on the local job market, even had a couple of interviews, but none were offering me enough to justify moving.
Am I going to regret my choice to stay in a comfy job eventually?
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>Realize I find filling out tax forms sort of satisfies my autism
>Hey maybe I should pivot to accounting when AI takes my job
>Oh wait, AI is probably going to take accounting jobs even faster than it takes IT jobs
>mfw
>>108612780
Implying Karl Marx wasn't a Jew is such a bold claim you actually got me to check Wikipedia. Like if I claimed Shaq was half-Korean or some shit lmao.
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>>108614147
>trying to move inside of my current company for an SWE role (currently in helldesk)
>its only project management
>the actual coding is done by jeets and an saas company (also jeets)
>but its 80k a year and 2 hours of work a day + infinite job security
still hoping faang gets back to me
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>>108613868
why do you feel like you're an idiot? this kind of thoughts rarely comes from people you see on the daily. it's something you ingrain yourself by reading on forums like this.
what's an idiot for you? if i tell you i'm turning 25 soon in couple weeks with only 1 YOE and doesnt practice anything technical on the daily would you call me an idiot? if i tell you that i'm committing to gamedev would you call me an idiot?
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>colleague calls to ask a question
>"So I just have one question blah blah blah blah so yeah just one thing blah blah blah"
>goes on until he gives a gap for a response
>look at teams timer, he's been talking for 4 minutes straight
People at work just yap so much
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>>108614229
It's an R&D company that is in the process of turning into a manufacturing company. They have their own in-house physics and simulation software. I was told that I would be helping to continue its development.
Instead I'm designing parts, designing the tests to confirm those parts function as intended, talking to manufacturers to make the test parts, writing the 40 page report that justifies why the part I designed will do what I says it will do, etc.
It's all engineering work and I just want to code.
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>>108612744
30+ years bouncing from one tech job to another, no two jobs alike, I do programming, sysadmin, rack-n-stack, cabling, anything and everything. 2 year gap 2001-2003 and two year gap presently. i prefer open source to walled gardens. it's tough when you're older and everyone assumes you're fossilized from the shoulders up
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>IT is pushing a big project to our SSO
>IT didn't inform us shit
>get into contact with them being like "yo, this might be a big impact - are we going to undergo testing for this?"
>"YES WE CAN UNDERGO TESTING RIGHT NOW AND NEXT WEEK WE CAN IMPLEMENT THIS IN PROD"
>"dude what the fuck, give me some fucking time, this is a big change and we need to document changes, impacts and communications"
>"NO WE NEED TO DO THIS FOR SO MANY APPLICATIONS WE NEED TO DO THIS NOWWWWWWWWW!!!!"
>"SCHEDULE CALL??? SCHEDULE CALL???? SCHEDULE CALL???????????"
ngl pretty close to quitting. I'm in such a scapegoat position because of this change and they won't give me any fucking breathing room to just see what's happening before I loop back. This project came out of left field too and I'm already struggling with some other high priority projects.
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>>108614524
>literally just make up job experience
>put that on linkedin
there you go, no more employment gap
kek how do some people even have "employment gaps"? if they ask about something negative in the interview that you have to explain, its already over
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the amount of times
>nothing happens
>nothing happens
>ANON I NEED YOU TO DO 5 FUCKING THINGS AT ONCE
>nothing happens
>nothing happens
is making me starting to tweak the fuck out. Any tips? I'm trying to ask if I can backout of this stuff until they REALLY need me but they keep adding me back into shit and there's too much information overload im starting to get a fucking panic attack.
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>>108614715
They can't check that in my country.
If they can where you live, that is vile, but it is what it is. There has to be a way around it, though. There's no way it's foolproof. Just claim you worked at a small company that is not checked by them, or if that's not plausible (eg the govt keeps track of all employment), in another country.
Claim you worked in China but communicated in English, kek, good luck doing a background check.
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>>108614811
I keep getting undermined by my boss who keeps saying to go ahead with stuff and "it's okay, we'll just do x,y,z" but xyz usually entails asking the vendor on something and they NEVER fucking respond or are a passive aggressive fucking bitch bro I fucking can't. you want to ask the vendor shit then why don't you? hmm, we should book a meeting with muhammer and mudamesh to see what they can do. meanwhile the meeting muhammer and mudamesh say absolutely nothing of value and say go speak to matash and matash is like sorry gotta talk to my boss and my boss just here shrugging while all eyes get on me why isn't this done and it's like holy fuck i dont care shut up ushusphtup shusphutps fuck man i think im having a fucking attack for real and now my boss wants another quick call quicak clalcla cquicakll
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>>108614862
oh great another fucking god damn quick call where my boss just uses me to talk about his thoughts when my only thing in my brain is "who gives a fuck" "i don't care" "this company is such a disorganized stupid fucking cluckfuck"
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>new job
>8 hour in office shifts (I have to be here, mandatory, in case someone needs shit from me)
>3-4 hours of actual work
>80% of it is because all of the software is from the early 2000s and slow as shit or gov regulations and paperwork to make sure we can pass audits
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>>108614908
So tell him that you like him and all, but you really arent built for this kind of social sponge behaviour and that it drains the fuck out of you
Draw a line you spineless retard. Why are you all like this?
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I finally understand the point-based system in agile. Holy shit my boss is a retard who thinks a 5 minute task is the same as something that would take multiple days to get done, can't wait for his clogged arteries to do the job.
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>can negotiate with ease with small companies/mom&pop shops (cause they don't know what the fuck they're doing), but they're shit jobs
>always fail interviews with serious companies
I should just be content with being the smartest retard in the room, but it's a bit soul crashing
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>>108613868
Stop falling for the sigma grindset scam. Stable employment at a location that pays is better than constantly hopping jobs and locations while owning nothing because some grifter told you it would make you more money.
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>>108615067
Of course. I built it as a web application using the same stack that I used for work. I have it hosted on a simple VPS for about 10 years now. It is still up, still looks cutting edge, works flawlessly, and has a 100% uptime. Whenever there's a major global cloud outage, I visit it and laugh because it is always up, fast, and available. The cloud is so overrated and really much more expensive than a self-managed VPS.
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>>108615628
read between the lines: too many people are not actually working on Fridays.
I wish all of my fellow tech workers understood that there is a certain level of personal responsibility, self-discipline, and work ethic that is required from all tech workers to keep us all free from micromanagement and having to RTO. The I-only-work=30-minute-a-day-dev ruins it for everybody.
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>My pay is good, interesting work, chill coworkers and managers, and I'm still progressing in my career.
No, I've been here for almost 7 years, my job is not interesting, I don't really like people (even though I tolerate them), I'm not learning shit and I slack off most of the day.
I should have left 3 years ago whenI still gave a fuck about programming and had a desire to learn and improve.
Now I simply don't care.
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>>108615628
I got to the office once a week. I don't know why managers claim it improves productivity. A few of the guys that go to the office most days because they live nearby spend around 80% of the day talking about bullshit and doing nothing.
I don't know who thought open office was a good idea either. Imagine trying to do anything that requires focus with a bunch of retards talking out loud while blasting shitty music and interrupting you over the most menail bullshit at any given time.
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>>108616037
>A few of the guys that go to the office most days because they live nearby spend around 80% of the day talking about bullshit and doing nothing.
This is 10000x more beneficial for the company than whatever the fuck you do at home
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>>108616177
I know you guys are autistic but the social aspect is incredibly more important than the "WFH only" people want to admit. I love working from home but meeting in person and socializing is good actually
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>the social aspect is incredibly more important
The social aspect is pretty much don't be a sperg or start shit with other people. Showing up at the office and being friendly is good but even if you don't do it your job is not in danger. Also your boss doesn't give a fuck about this as long as you deliver.
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>>108616215
I am 100% certain that everyone's mental health, productivity, and just general well being would improve with even just a couple days a week in the office and being social with the people they work with
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>>108615718
By cloud I mean: AWS, Azure, GCP, etc where there is a cloud portal you login to to manage all your cloud resources, and yes you can create/destroy a VM but...
By self-managed VPS I mean: Bluehost, GoDaddy, Hostinger, etc. where you prepay for a bare VM, typically in 1 year or multiyear contract, that you then remote into your VM/VPS and do your thang.
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>>108616037
it DOES NOT improve individual productivity for the individual who have a work ethic. it does improve average productivity per employee because it forces the employees without a work ethic to actually work. I learned this by managing people but I just fired the people who were not actually working and kept full remote in place.
An employee who doesn't work is obvious, most managers just don't have the balls to no-warning fire them. That guy who you wonder what he does... he does nothing.
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I'll be honest, I do prefer RTO IF I have good coworkers but those times have changed and I no longer have fun coworkers so fuck I'd rather be wallow in misery, tell everyone to fuck off and do the bare minimum at home. I've been so freaking doompilled that I'll never get back into the times when I've had my first few office jobs and had fun fucking around the office with my coworkers. WE HAD A FUCKING PING PONG TABLE AND HAD TIME TO ACTUALLY DO IT WITHOUT PEOPLE JUDGING FUCK
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>>108615067
my personal website is my last name dot com and it hosts a static page with no links or anything, essentially just a text document in html tags. then I have my various hosted things available on subdomains.
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>>108616445
Who honestly cares about work anymore. You're not changing lives, we're not fucking doing anything productive for society. In fact, some of you fucks are actively working to make society worse. Things will just keep getting worse, but yeah we're swimming but for how long? I'm just so fucking tired boss. None of this shit matters can we all just fucking die already fuck.
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>>108616337
>because it forces the employees without a work ethic to actually work
If most people at the office actually worse. It's easier to pick up bad habits than good ones.
>>108616429
> I'd rather be wallow in misery
This is entirely your choice. I got to the office on mondays and the only good thing about it is that it makes me appreciate not going the rest of the days even more.
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>>108616466
idk just got a heavily mentally ill girlfriend who's 12 years younger than me ive got a couple nice years ahead of me
u can always pick up roids if ur that bored and suicidal and become a beast, an absolute specimen, if only for a couple years before your heart gives out. you will have lived 100 times more fulfilling than working to retirement and then be turned into food or something, whatever this dystopia has planned for us
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>>108616476
it's over man. nothing's going to get better dude. I felt like for a long time drugged on a train tracks in the fog unknown of that destination but no matter how long it keeps trucking, there's no beautiful scenery, no good stops, and then I just know at the end the train tracks end and you fall off the cliff called death. i should probably get off and see what's out there but it's more comfortable just sleeping it off at least that way you won't miss the train.
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fuck if only i could find a drug dealer around me.
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regarding the remote vs office productivity conversation
I never see people say this, and maybe I'm just stupid and unethical, but I'm definitely less productive working from home. partially because I'm slower and waste more time figuring things out and trying to find people to ask things through text. partially because, honestly, I can just get up and go do my laundry, or leave in the middle of the day to run some errands. or just post on 4chan. I think I could work a second job and not get caught
but it's not just that. I was more productive when I worked in an office with cool people who knew more than I do
simple stuff like just blurting out "wtf? why is x not working?" and getting and IMMEDIATE "x is down. switch to y"
or "uuuh, does anyone know how to z?" etc. etc.
some people would say that I was a "burden" on my colleagues, and maybe those guys are happy to work from home and not have to baby sit me, but then again I enjoyed being on the other end of that too. it just didn't happen much because I was new there and all the old fags around me knew more than I did
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>>108616491
maybe u dont even need a dealer, i havent done any extensive research but the fraud general on /fit/ can probably give anyone a method if you're really done with life. just know what you're committing to.
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>>108616466
I think the whole work-that-has-meaning meme distorted the worker's view of what work is about. Picture it in simpler terms rather than working in tech. A baker. Assume that a baker bakes bread from scratch with fresh ingredients, and that he does that extremely clean, hygenic, and consistently with the care of a craftsman. Is he changing lives? No. Is he doing anything productive for society? No. But he is regularly providing some delicious healthy bread to a happy paying customer. And in doing so he is able to pay his bills instead of being a burden on society.
This whole work-that-has-meaning meme is, in my opinion, both a deliberate exploitation of lost people and what came into the vacuum of loving Christian values. Serving man means nothing. Serving God is the only true meaning; How to serve him? With an honest days work, giving more than you take, and not being a burden to anyone; and if you have something left over after all that then help somebody directly who you know who deserves help. If have nothing left over, then just thank God for your daily bread, rejoice that one day it will end, and just carry on.
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>>108616491
nta but a 12 year old can figure out how to order drugs online
and trt clinics are completely online these days. you can cruise 3x natural physiological limit of test. they script other stuff if you ask too like deca, hgh, in some cases anavar.
steroids are literally clearnet and have been forever
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>>108616581
No, I'd rather be a baker since you're at least striving to be better. Being an office worker is terrible. You sell your soul to grift other people. Oh look I optimize your workload so now the company can fire you and replace you with AI! :D
It's just hogwash, make the stakeholder value go up, there's no love in this, there's no heart in this, it's just fucking misery.
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>>108616571
>blurting out
I know it sounds cranky, but I am glad I don't have to put up with that shit anymore. In my opinion you should be stuck for 3 hours before asking anyone for help. Unless your a Jr. then maybe 45 minutes of being stuck, ask your assigned mentor.
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>>108616617
>You learn a second language yet?
Nope
>Get good at guitar?
I failed. This was my 3rd attempt over the span of 20 years and I think it's time to let it go.
I've been reading a lot though, and doing some writing too.
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>>108616592
it depends on what you're doing. You can bake some really delicious reports that make some overworked excel wrangler's life alot easier.
AI will be a failure.
>make the stakeholder value go up
the culture that came from that bastard Jack Welch caused alot of the decline in tech/engineering
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Broke-Capitalism-America/dp/1982176423
It won't be this way forever; wait until the boomers finish dieing off, it will get better. just hang-on, hone your skills, and strive to be the kind of person you respect.
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>>108616581
I understand it's nice to do good work so you don't burden your colleagues.
But that seems like a meme too. Imagine a meaningless company, e.g. an advertising company. Now with these Christian values, colleague don't want to burden each other, so they perform great, earn their bread, and have nice etiquette. This amplifies the gains the meaningless/shitty company makes.
Meaning is still important because meaning implies life and soul
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>>108616624
at a non tech related traditional engineering job i had a jr that i tasked with doing some simple research about some components and he told me he couldn't find anything. I made a huge scene talking on speaker phone with the vendor of the components and got the answer i was looking for it in like 5 minutes and he spent over a day fucking around. I knew it wouldn't take long but i wanted him to do it to get used to talking to people about shit , we fired him a few months later lol
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>>108616668
yuk. advertising. I agree with you that it is important to mind the big picture on what we as tech-workers indirectly contribute toward. for example: I refuse to get a security clearance because I know that road leads to for the deepstate, destroyers of freedom/privacy, and/or the military-industrial complex. Yes it makes my life harder, and I earn less, but not going to do it.
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>>108616817
I know right, seeing them as a piece of equipment like a wifi router that's causing a headache doesn't work when I strongly dislike fiction. Seeing their perspective also makes me more angry because of how much of a slob they are.
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>>108616888
yeah instead you should live the rest of your life depressed and demoralized and it gets worse every year and nothing happens and you achieve nothing and work until you retire at the ripe old age of 80 if you dont die before that
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>fully remote
>have to deal with schizophrenic big projects and stakeholders
>losing my fucking marbles all the god damn time
>if I really think about it, I can just nod yes to everything and put my mouse on my keyboard and AFK for 7 hours of the day
>most meetings and pings make me want to fucking kill myself
>all of my coworkers make me want to kill myself
Do I start looking now or just HODL for "comfy" remote job until it's hybrid/RTO and then start looking? I think I can hold my marbles in but as soon as I'm in a meeting these fuckers are making me lose my fucking mind and nobody does things the right way and these fucking retards keep butting in and stop and going and stop and going it's like I keep getting a vasectamy oh but now they want a baby snip snap snip snap snip snap
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>>108617079
I mean doesn't hurt to try, right? although I'm trying to get my brain to "yo shut your bitch ass down nod your head and just do your best" but some of these meetings are straight fucking retarded. everyone is making shit up or doing things the right way that it makes it difficult to get anything done, but things have to get done, but nobody's really helping to get shit done even when I ask for it.
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Everyone here is now being required to reimagine their own job using "10x Thinking". We *have* to use AI and prove that it's driving revenue growth. CTO didn't outright say it, but the implication is that those who don't apply this thinking will be gone.
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I just think that things that angers me the most is if I got the exact same job 10 years ago, it wouldn't be ANYWHERE this fucking retarded. that means the people who were here YEARS ago were just incompetent retards.
I feel like the asks from execs and leadership now ARE WAY out of scope compared to what shit was back then.
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Tracing your IP...
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you have a comfy afk job.
I see this as a growing opportunity for you
like a challenge not to be neurotic when shit is gay
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>>108617264
Any tips? ngl my brain is getting so tired I'm starting to feel like one day I'm really just gonna snap and be like "oh WHY DONT YOU FUCKING DO IT AND HANDLE OUR FUCKING JEET INCOMPETENT SUPPORT AND COWORKERS? WHY YA GOTTA ALWAYS MAKE ME RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MESS FUCK YOU EAT SHIT BITCH IM SO TIRED OF LOOKING INTO THIS FOR YOU WHEN YOU DO FUCKING NOTHING WITH THE SHIT I GIVE YOU" GOD IF I HAVE TO GET INTO ANOTHER PHONE CALL WITH MUHAMITER IM GONNA LOSE IT
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>>108617487
By the time I save up enough money to go there the passport bros and retarded barrys and nancys are going to make japan restrict anyone from doing anything.....they're already overcharging tourists....