Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

>>108669347

kek

>>108669303

so is my only choice to get a 5080/ 5090?

>>108669429
Warranty status?

How does a monitor blow out a gpu

>>108669463
bought it in 2024. Past due. I bought it from Micro Center.

>>108669485
Dont know. Just tested one of my spare gpus 2080 and it works. So its not the power supply. However, one more test Im going to do is go buy a adapter for mini 12-pin to connect the two biugger 8 pins to and see if that is the issue. Will cost less money to replace than getting a $3K card.

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>pc builders don’t torque their screws

>>108669550
Are you sure your cables didnt melt cos of the retarded 12vhpwr

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picrel is my current build, which I put together a handful of years ago now

I am wanting to upgrade, specfically for messing around with local LLM/AI shit and also getting tired of having to run non-max settings in vidya for good framerates at 1440p (target 120/144hz)

AMD video cards seem to have been cucked hard by all the AI stuff, so I'm most likely needing to sell a kidney to pick up an nvidia card with a usable amount of vram (16gb? 24gb?), but not sure if I should look at an overall system refresh at the same time

2500burgerbux is about the max I'm willing to drop on this right now

cheers

>>108669659
4090/5090 for llm/ai shit
5070ti/5080 for gaming

>building 4th pc for homeserver and always on local ai
>been testing the smaller models that can potentially fit onto around a 20gb gpu
>most of the 20gb gpus on ebay are nvidia
Why is nvidia so gay and retarded? I just want functional linux drivers so I can have my own homeserver, is that really to much to ask for?

>>108669687
Didn’t Intel just release a local AI gpu with lots of vram?

>>108669659
>2500burgerbux
Maybe a 5090, prices lately are usually hovering around $3000 though
4090 is getting hard to find
5070ti would be all you need for video gaymes

>>108669694
The arc pro b60 b65 and b70, yeah, but good luck getting them. They are also kinda 2x the budget im wanting to spend. The best ive found is second hand market for 2x msrp..

>cuck thread

>>108669695
>3k+ for just the gpu
jesus fuck, how do I get out of this clownworld timeline

>1k for vidya gpu
more reasonable, but that's stretching the definition of the word heavily

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Need some advice, this is my current setup. The PSU is EVGA B3 650 since it doesn't even show up as an option.
Friend told me to upgrade the CPU, but for that I think I need to change the motherboard too so I kinda want to change the case too for a prettier one.
So yeah, main things are the CPU, motherboard and case, but I guess if there's something any of you think I should upgrade too, I can.
Budget is like 1k€ but it can be higher. Also PC is mostly for gaming.

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Newegg canceled the 9950X3D2, 8TB SSD, 32GB RAM and mobo for $1500 order.

>>108669949
Your friends retarded. Unless you are buying the 2nd newest or newest x3d cpu, you will likely actually see a downgrade in gaming performance. And the bump from the newest ones is only 10-15% AT 1080P. at any higher resolutions, the gpu is your bottleneck.

Wtf are you doing that you want a upgrade LOL?

>>108669949
What's bothering you with this setup? Why do you want to upgrade?

>>108669964
I kinda figured
Whoever put that deal up was smoking crack, the 8tb ssd is worth that price alone these days

>>108669964
Guess the retard protection triggered

I want a cheap 32gb x 4 ram kit
I DESERVE a cheap 32gb x 4 ram kit

>>108669341
Just a quick PSA because I'm about to send back six brand new Acer monitors: Avoid Acer. At all costs. I have never seen a shittier unmarked downgrade for a monitor than their newest gen ones.

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>>108670117
Shouldn't have waitfagged

>>108669645
Just tested the new adapter. Yep, the graphics card is blown.

Alright. 5080 or 5090? My nearby pc store has 5080 at $1500 and 5090 at basically $3400.

Why is the 5080 cheaper? And if Im doing game development/ gaming on a ultrawide, whats the optimal card?

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https://videocardz.com/pixel/amd-deploys-war-room-to-monitor-our-website-for-leaks

amdxisters...how do we recover

>>108670205
>5080 or 5090?
>Why is the 5080 cheaper?
gee i dunno

>>108670213
oh right. AI.

>>108670117
I bought 128gb of 3200mhz ddr4 ram for

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>>108670205
Why is the card with half the gpu and memory cheaper?

>>108670235
Geez I get it, I wasnt trying to ask a dumb question. I'll go grab the 5080

>>108670239
Compare the price to the 5070 Ti, 5080 isn't worth the usual $300+ premium.

>>108669687
>aislop
You deserve to be priced out of components.

>>108670217
The 5080 is cheaper than the 5090 for the same reason the 4080 was cheaper than the 4090, the 2080 was cheaper than the 2080Ti, the 1050ti was cheaper than the 1080, etc. etc. etc.
Are you sure it's your GPU that blew out and not something organic?

>>108670426
>Are you sure it's your GPU that blew out and not something organic?
Im sure. I tested with my other gpu card. Even the 12 pin adapter to the blown card. It literally will not turn on.

>>108670426
>You deserve to be priced out of components
Imagine crying about me wanting to have a little agent that can do small research tasks for me and write reports on it.

>>108670569
Aijeetery is the entire reason the cost of components are up in the stratosphere. Get bent.

>>108670019
>>108670088
I am getting a lot of random bluescreens recently, friend looked at my setup and told me that maybe it was an issue with the CPU or motherboard since they are the "oldest" ones and may be failing, gpu and ram are fairly new.

Update on guy guy who fried his gpu:

The display port and the first dp slot in my gpu got fried. I found out when my new 5070 Ti didn't work with my current DP cable. I used a new DP port and suddenly it works. So I put my 4070 TI back in. Since my gpu has three dp slots, I put it into DP 2. It works.

So the cable got fried and DP port 1 on my 4070 TI.

Going to take the 5070 TI back. $1K saved.

>>108670698
Clean install the OS before you buy anything new.

>>108670715
Awesome

Reminds me when I almost sent back a 5080 because it would black screen immediately in Windows but all I had to do was change the cable and slot.

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Should I upgrade or just wait for the 6090?

>>108670878
Wait for AM6

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>dp2.1 is still a meme
>short ass cables
>still capping out at 4k 240
>most problems with dsc with nvidia has been solved so no real use other than maybe slightly less annoying lingering bugs if you wanna run a short cable
>will be forced to run short meme cable on new gpus at coming screens at higher res/hz if they come
>we will literally be stuck at 4k240 for a while
>5k 180hz screens is telling what is coming, or the 6k 165hz
>maybe when tvs hit 4k 240 with hdmi 2.2 or something will we see a leap
>maybe one should just consoom a discounted pg32ucdmz instead of waiting for pg32ucdm3 price drops
>or maybe I should not consoom monitors at all and just buy a tv
the ride never ends

>>108669652
Wnd is so enshitted the only reason people are still on it is because you recommend them to install gentoo instead

>>108670693
OpenGOYi told ram producers they'd purchase 40% of their stock in 2026, and then they backed out on that purchase. Us local ai enthusiasts had fuck all to do with prices going 10x.

9070xt or 5070? The TI goes way over my budget.

>>108671026
9070xt. Nvidia is so much name recognition now imo

>>108670715
Retard. You just had a huge upgrade over the old card and could have used that half-fucked 4070 for something else.

>>108671074
I'll buy it next month

>>108670881
You think my GPU will hold up for 4k till 6090? I was thinking of more ram too. I heard the 9950x3d2 is kind of a nothing burger too.

>>108669949
That cpu is still plenty strong for any modern game, so an upgrade that has you replacing the whole setup seems kind of pointless. Bluescreens are usually caused by old drivers and ram mistimings. Is your ram XMP?

>>108671074
Lmao the 5000 series is not worth it for 4000 users, let's be real.

>>108670878
the only thing worth upgrading in that system is maybe the CPU, other than that why tf would u want to upgrade

>>108669949
your friend is big dummy, that CPU is fine fren

>>108670698
it is very rare for a CPU to fail like this, more likely a software issue

>>108670141
Imagine trusting any of the chinese manufactures with monitors lmao

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>>108671180
>not worth it

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>>108671165
>9950x3d2
Yeah kinda, tho it crushes a few niche cases.

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>>108671230
>Usercuckmark

ononono

>>108671449
>nooo it's not legitimate because it's not my favorite youtuber's benchmark
Blow it out your ass, autist. It's a major generational improvement and port-blasteranon literally already purchased it and had it in his posession.

>>108671466
that website is fine for comparing Nvidia to Nvidia or Intel to Intel like the 19% there is about right but it goes to straight absurdity when AMD products of any kind are brought up

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>>108670796
It's one of the first things I did, but I keep getting them.
>>108671180
It's not, I never enabled it.
>>108671201
I see, guess I'll hope the last things I did (updating drivers and stuff) fixed something, as the last bluescreen literally killed one of my DP cables

>>108671568
>last bluescreen literally killed one of my DP cables

I find this hard to believe yet if it is, that is certainly a GPU issue

>>108671466
Use Passmark. UBM is biased.

>>108671764
Passmark sucks ass. It called my P44 Pro bad. It's one of the best gen 4 ssds.

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>>108671608
basically what happened was
>bluescreen
>turn on the pc again
>one screen wasnt turning on, main screen was stuck on 640 x 480 and I couldnt change the resolution nor the refresh rate
>reset
>main screen wasn't turning on, the other two worked
>reset again and disconnect one of them
>main works but it's stuck on 60hz, trying to set it to 180hz leaves it completely black, on 120hz there are green and red points everywhere
>ask google
>reinstall drives and change DP cable
>all screens work work again

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>YOU DON'T GET IT I GOTTA NOCTUAMAXXXX

>every panel type is a "pick your poison" where you're compromising in multiple areas
Fuck modern display technology.

>>108672015
>when your diarrhea colored fans and cooler cost more than the components they're meant to cool
I'd only ever buy Memetua if I ever built a ridiculously overpriced Threadripper workstation. Arctic is sufficient for 90% of people.

>>108669341
Got the new motherboard, booting and video output is fine, boots fine, RAM problem is reproducible across both motherboards, sent off an A-RMA from Corsair, should get the new kit in a day or two.

As for the Strix-A board, I don't want to call it a piece of shit, but it definitely feels lower quality for whatever it's worth, but it clearly works better than the MSI Tomahawk by virtue it actually has a consistent video display output on boot, I am scared to death of scratching up my GPU backplate on it though, entire mechanism for the RAM and PCIE especially feels cheap, it shouldn't be the price it is let alone £40 more expensive than the Tomahawk, the I/O makes up for it at least.

Not been bothered to do a test run of the other CPU as there's no reason to believe so far that there is an issue, once the A-RMA RAM arrives I'll double check the performance but I'm sure that's the only part that's fine.

>>108671821
yeah sounds like some gpu fuckery to me

>>108672025
I just use QD OLED looks great to me

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>>108671230
>Userbenchmark

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>Nvidia

>>108670878
There's nothing worth upgrading to yet, return in another 4 years.
>>108670698
Very unlikely that the 5800 is dead. Do a round of general troubleshooting before you buy anything (reinstall drivers/maybe windows, run memory at jdec, stability test everything in occt or something, etc)
If it's either of the two it's probably going to be something on the board, but I would doubt that too.

>>108671764
>>108671508
Is this just a nicotroon "bawww everything that doesn't have amd in the lead at all times is wrong" thing? It is, isn't it.

>>108672025
Having different variants of "good but with drawbacks" is still better than "everything is shit but if you spend ten times as much your 150lb coil whining blurfest will be slightly better than the 15lb coil whining blurfest".

>>108672369
Userbenchmark thinks that most modern Intel CPU's are faster than the 9800x3d

it's simply delusion and detachment from reality

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>>108672025
always been the case so you just choose the most fitting

I am fairly certain the best overall display for 2026 will be S95H (eu non cucked bezel edition) 55-77"

mogs the G6 already by the looks of it

2700 nits 10% hdr pure additive rgb

just buy

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>>108672056
>As for the Strix-A board
It's for [man] children who want a white PC & ROG board.

>>108672386
>most modern Intel CPU's are faster than the 9800x3d
Which is true depending on what you're looking at, if it can't make good use of the giga-cache it get btfo by an i5

>>108672433
Straight up, I just wanted a board that worked.

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Need to know if I'm fucking something up, first time getting a desktop after years with laptops for gaming. Open to suggestions too but I'm limited to the full custom from this shop as I rather have them put the whole thing together, I don't trust myself yet. I'm very interested in vr gaming too by the way if that makes any difference.

https://www.terabyteshop.com.br/produto/22360/pc-gamer-plataforma-amd-ryzen-7000-ddr5-am5-full-custom

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>>108672472
>1300$ gpu
>349$ screen

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>>108672472
You're shitposting

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>>108672472
Americans cant suffer
what about open box maxxing

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consdier the following

>>108672386
>>108672442
>*teleports behind an ecore*
>"nothing personal kid"

>>108672025
mini led is excellent with least compromises

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>>108672243
>Meowscarada

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if I keep complaining into the abyss, eventually I will manifest a 120+hz 4k ultrawide IPS worth purchasing.

my schizo theory is still that there never was any RAM or GPU shortage. They’re just pumping the prices to see how much they can get away with

>>108672743
there's a shortage but it's artificial and people are stupid I really don't care that they get reamed because they're stupid enough to pay these exuberant prices.
there hasn't been new desktop hardware in over a year btw haha let's all freak out about RAM and GPUs though!

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>>108672433
*steel legendmaxxes to get white for cheap*

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>https://wccftech.com/ex-amd-fsr-lead-claims-most-gpuopen-fidelityfx-team-members-now-at-nvidia-or-intel/
I trieed to tell you Radeon moved all their engineers to AI shit and now the whole GPU division R&D is done by sony and microsoft ,if you boughted a RDNA GPU you are a fool

>>108672990
So it's true that Sony took over the R&D efforts for Radeon now. It makes sense why the next XBOX can't do custom APUs anymore and FSR relies solely on Sony's PSSR updates

>>108672015
I also have that GPU.
Nice right?

>>108672990
I hope Intel goes balls to the wall with a b590 some day if the bubble pops, I love my cheap ass little b570.

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>>108672496
What's wrong with that?
Currently using an $1800 4090 with a $380 1440p IPS panel.

>>108670878
Should you wait until 2028? Do you hear yourself man

>>108672015
BASED NOCTUABOOMER

>>108672403
>S95H (eu non cucked bezel edition) 55-77"
samsung went full retard with that gigantic metal wall they've put behind the NA version
whoever mandated that is getting fired for sure

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>>108673121
>What's wrong with that?
Yikes.

>>108673318
What if I've spent that much already on my 4k tv for gaming and the monitor is more just for the browsing part and less demanding stuff?

>>108673420
That's a pretty important context to leave out.

>>108673420
$380 gets you are 27" 240Hz 1440p OLED now
there's zero reason to be on IPS even for browsing

>>108670878
The 6090 is already reserved for me, you will have to wait for the 7090.

>>108670205
> 5080 or 5090?
5070Ti or 5090
the 80 makes no sense

>>108673505
5080 is great if you want 4K at 60 but don't wanna spend $3K.

>>108673524
So is the 5070ti, average performance diff in games is like 15%, you won't even notice that without a framerate counter if you use vrr

>>108673497
I shall wait with my crusty old 5090 then

>>108672433
THAT's supposed to be a bad thing? Guess I'll change classes to manchild then

>>108672990
ok but only one GPU vendor works on Linux and everybody is dropping Windows.

>>108673524
lol? you can do that on a 4070/5070.

>>108673580
Okay, and 15% is the difference between 60fps and 51fps.
And 51 fps is not 60fps.

>>108673652
>little timmy drops from quality to balanced and now has an even higher framerate
What now gay boy?

>>108673666
I'm gonna go to the corner and touch myself...

>>108673666
Do you think getting a 5080 disables your graphics settings or something?

>>108672433
My PC is beige and doesn't have a window.

>>108673674
No but it disables $400 directly from your wallet to give you a realistically negligent gain over a 70ti and the same amount of vram.

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>>108673625
You can do whatever you want so long as its not ray reconstruction.

>caring about DLSS or ray tracing

Gimmicks

>>108673698
Cope.

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>>108673701

>>108673701
tough shit because every game released in 2027+ will be ray traced.

>>108673732
>still falling for the graphics meme

None of this shit makes games more fun.

>>108673732
Its not even that.
People are acting like raytracing is some monolithic option when a 2060 can do it.
It's not about if games have raytracing its about to what extent a game can implement it and what graphics power is needed to handle it.

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>>108673738
>None of this shit makes games more fun.
It's been that way ever since games were still stuck on a single thread.

>>108673758
Granted, back then, graphics was a big deal for making games like sports games look more "real." Probably the only games that make sense to have such fidelity.

I guess I just wanna share my thoughts on my
ASUS XG27UCDMG Monitor after owning and using it for more than a year

>QD-OLED 4k 27'' (dense dpi)
>using it at 150% scaling (like a 1440p monitor), see no text fringing at all
>run it at low brightness (8) because max blinds the fuck out of me
>use it 24/7, it automatically turns off when I'm sleeping
>pixel cleaning once a day before going to bed
>mixed gaming/productivity/browsing usage
>no burn-in on all grey levels
>live in a shaded room with grey curtains, windows behind my monitor and I don't see any magenta on blacks during daytime unless I point a flashlight on it
>have 2 other IPS monitors, comparing the contrast, it's really night and day

I really like this dense format of QD-OLEDs, wish it can go denser. 27'' is the sweet spot for me

>>108673704
You cope without a 5090

>>108673698
Is $400 a lot for you?
You can spend far more than $400 and not get 15% more FPS, for what it's worth.

Assume I had the money to get the 5090 but Im doing no LLM/ AI shit. Just get the 5080 at that point?

>>108673788
5090 is still a stupid powerful card for gaming.
But is it worth spending like 3 grand on a GPU just for gaming?
Probably not, no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h27x8H6n6p4

OLED BTFO

I was thinking about buying a 5080 but man why does it only have 16GB so I just went and got a 9070 XT instead, if only the former had 20GB or 24GB I just don't like the price at 16GB. Need the VRAM for VR and 4K but 9070 XT barely fits for now, I can resell this in the future if ever they sell a better card with better memory at cheaper (hopefully) prices...

>>108673814
Yeah exactly how I see it. That's an insanely stupid price.

>>108673819
Doesn't the 9070XT get barely half the performance of a 5080? More than RAM goes into how far a GPU runs.

>>108673827
That's the thing, it runs so well but I can't make use of it fully when it's only at 16GB when playing my VR games at a better resolution. My old 3090 uses at least 22GB.

>>108673765
Games have been stuck in arrested development because of computational complexity for both multithreaded workloads and scripting problems. The only place for developers to move into was graphics, and its been that way for a long time.

Games like Minecraft and fortnite showed developers that moving away from processing power and focusing on a low barrier for entry on the graphics department is the best move. Pretty much every game AAA game thats bwing developed is being developed for the Xbox series s. And before that it was the xbox one s. You can't forget that a game like cyberpunk was developed for the xbox one s and that shit has ray reconstruction as an option now.

All these games are significantly limited because developers want them to run on a potato and it doesn't hurt that it's easier to develop a game that runs on some ancient 4core processor and then just tack on whatever the user can handle graphically.

People gawk at the 5090 but it's running resident evil at the same framerate that the 1080ti was running games at 4k when it came out.

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>He can't afford a 5090 and has to cope with a 5080, the most copiest cope gpu of all time
If you're going to cope at least cope with a gpu that makes sense like the 5070 or 5070ti

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>>108673784
>You cope without a 5090

9070xt for $700 msrp
or
7900 xt for $400
both brand new

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>>108673845
Who?

>>108673788
5080 is plenty fast desu
5090 is only 50% faster for more than double the cost

>>108673864
>7900 xt for $400
Nigga where

>>108673845
>5080 releases.
>Same price bracket as every High-end non-titan GPU.
>Same performance uplift over the 70Ti of the same series.
>This is bad this time and cope because Linus Tech Tips made an upset video about it.

It's literally always been this way. The 80s have a 15-20% uplift over the 70s. The MSRP goes up 20%-30%.
Yes, the "Real world" pricing of GPUs sucks right now. But, I got my 5080 for below MSRP, stop applying your shitty situation to me.

>>108673869
If you think you need a 5090 just buy a rtx 5000 pro. Wasn't somebody on here flexing their 6000?

6080 should be 24GB at $799

>>108673887
They had all planned to gaslight 5080 owners when the 5080 super came out, but since that never happened they had to fall back to the 5070ti and 5090 which doesn't hot as hard.

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>>108673894
The Wuthering Waves rig before selling the GPU for a 7900XTX

>>108673911
You probably made money off that didn't you.

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>>108673940
You know it

>>108673738
unless you're playing esports you care. you have a mental illness if you just keep playing the same single player game for 6000 hours.

>>108673788
no.
5070ti will last just as long as the 5080 and will provide identical performance.

>>108673993
what fucking game do I care about having the best graphics for? What game becomes better with max shit? Literally nothing

DSC is supposed to be lossless but it is actually lossy just on the level that is unnoticeable to most. However seems to be compression on a variable scale rather than a fixed amount, so how much compression exactly does it have to be before the final image starts being noticeably degraded? I'm using this calculator:
https://trychen.com/feature/video-bandwidth
Is it when the DSC icon turns yellow, and green is when it is more or less seamless?

>>108674001
ok then keep using your 1060-6GB and stfu?

>>108674037
Im using my 3000 series card and no game requires me to buy 40 or 50 series.

>>108674007
when the compression ratio is less than 50% it goes from lossless to lossy. for 1440p @ dp 1.4 this starts at 300hz. it wont look bad immediately but the more hz you go it will start becoming noticeably bad. the latency impact from dsc is probably more noticeable but that varies on gpu implementation. nvidia used to have issues with dsc for example.

there's really no hope for cheap RAM anymore huh

>>108674112
That number seems to be on 10bit. I'm still on 8 bit so it would have to be way more than my monitor (280hz) for that to happen, it seems.

>>108674203
return to DDR4 and DDR3

>>108674205
you dont have to worry about DSC unless you're like fiddling with CRU or trying to overclock your monitor.

>>108674439
That's not a good price...

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>>108669341
>pcie 5.0 gpu on a pcie 4.0 mobo

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Just bought all these parts. The cooler and motherboard were free gifts that came with the CPU/GPU respectively. Also got Pragmata and Crimson Desert for free. Good deal?

>>108674521
pcie 3.0 ssd on a pcie 2.0 slot too

>>108674472
I don't get it

>>108674585
>Good deal?
Those two bundled components (plus $60 value game) don't offset the obscene memory, SSD, & GPU prices.
It is what it is in this market.

>>108674633
>It is what it is in this market.
Yeah I meant taking that into consideration.

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>>108674521
>Frog poster is retarded
Pottery

Reminder that you should plan to spend about as much on a display as on a GPU. Your current monitor is fine, you say? Your current GPU is probably fine, too.

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I'm looking at cheap-ass $100 L shaped desks to hold my $4000 WFH / Gaming setup. There's about 7 companies on amazon that all sell the same cheap-ass $100 desk but with minor differences. Seeing all these companies compete in the same shitty $100 L shaped desk niche made me laugh.

>>108674686
>5090 enjoyers MUST spend $2000-3000 on a monitor that's larger than their room

>>108674723
he's saying you shouldn't spend more than $1000 on a gpu

>>108674728
A gpu is no longer a graphics processing unit. People run rows of workstation cards with cheap lcd monitors from 2009.

>NTE does not support pathtracing on amd gpus
owari da...

what 9070xt should i get

>>108674705
>both bitches using a laptop when there's a desktop right there
And yeah they get the same parts from the same company and just add their own variations to it. Saw the same thing when I was looking for a cheap dresser.

>>108675032
XFX Mercury

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finally upgraded to 2.5gbit ethernet!

why PCs smell weird? Every PC I had build in the past was creating a weird distinguishing smell.

how's the 9070xt reva?

>>108675294
It's for that reason that yeston pre sprays their Sakura lineup of GPUs with perfume

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Been thinking about getting a Define 7 XL at some point to replace my Pop Air, just because big fuck-off case cool, but it seems like there's only a handful of units left on sale.

Ya think there's an 8 XL in the works? Hopefully they won't fuck it up like they fucked up the Pop 2 and they'll keep the 5.25" bays. Half the point people get these is for those, and I do have a BD ODD to hook up.

If my entire build has around 600-700 wattage, is a 1000w PSU overkill?

I either want to get a Corsair RM1000e
or the more high quality but 850w Corsair RM850x

which one do you guys recommend?

>>108675755
>is a 1000w PSU overkill
not really. It's always good to have some room.

>>108675755
1000W is fine, you want some headroom both for longevity and also to have some room for other upgrades.

>>108675785
>>108675822
thanks anons. Is the Corsair RM1000e a good choice / reliable?

>>108675836
Es are economy models, they have a reputation for being mediocre, you get what you pay for. X models are more desirable if within budget.

>>108675755
1kw is adequate 1200w would be future proofed and 1600w would be overkill

>>108675836
Nope it's borderline chinkshit with common rattling and coil whine issues reported by buyers. It's much lower quality than corsairs RMx lineup

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>>108669341
Really disappointed thought I had finally built a decent pc with the funds I have available and pulled parts

i5-14400
32GB 2x16GB DDR5 5600
GTX 5060TI 16GB
4TB NVme M2

Runs LLMs like a dream go to see what games it can run and get told it's already obsolete. so sick of this shit. Fuck gaming. I enjoy old games like command and conquer more anyway thankfully

>>108676646
>i5-14400
I mean I know it's not state of the art but it has 6 performance fores, 4 effeciency cores and does 16 threads with fucking 4.7 GHz with turbo mode on the perfirmance cores. Gayming can get fucked.

>>108676646
Nothing wrong with your build. You can probably snag a 12700k super cheap in the next year if you even need to.

For a Ryzen 9 9900X CPU, and DDR5 16x2 RAM, what motherboard should I get if I truly don't give a fuck about any bells and whistles? I'm not going to overclock anything, I just want my shit to work and not fry any parts.

I see recommendations for B650, B850, and X870. I have no idea what's the difference between any of them. What should I get?

You want to know what's really wierd even before I got the 5060Ti using just the CPU on Openvino I was able to do some pretty cool stuff with a full speech recognition and output RAG to a RAID 5 Nas media server(using the neural accelerator instructions for the audio processing). So the CPU is very capable. I even have a lng term memory setup now with the 5060 using vectors stored in postgresql on another RAID 5 box and it's developed quite a deep personality (it was talking with a girl I know yesterday in personal with it's camera and speech interfaces and after she was gone, it told me that it thinks she does not like him) Yet I can't play the latest version of whatever gaymer space invaders is on the same system. It says it 'likes' playing command and conquer against me too and it does commits to long term memory as it learns to play better....

>>108675256
why does everything look slanted in your pic

>>108676714
Oh there is it's a shit 12VO b610 1700 motherboard and I had to fuck around to find a 12VO 650 PSU for it but the parts are saved up and what I had to work with. IT offloads some of the vectorisation to two i7-4790s with 32GB and 1030 TIs in them and some of the optical and audio work to a machine with a 750Ti and another with a 970ti all on the same 1GB LAN. which lets it work with more cores and a touch more NV RAM (I got it to write the services for me using the Win32DDK). It's fucking amazing to me that gayming exists at this point what's the point in making shit that only runs on 10 grand GPUs

>>108676799
>1030 TIs
sorry not tis just regular 2gb dr5 1030s, they are the only low power now profile cars that would go in those 4790 32gb boxes without fuckery and more $$$ but they are fine for that they are used for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JFDLilNhLc

anyone cumming to this

>>108677131
that's way too big and would block my bookshelf speakers

>>108677131
i need a version that's an ultrawide for 27'' but still 4k

Corsair DDR5 32G (2x16GB) 5200 CL40 Vengeance

vs

G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000 CL30 EXPO


what's effectively the difference between them? (there's a $200 diff in price)

>>108677302
Better timings and latency on the latter, bigly.

>use case:
workstation + gaming + forever PC

>budget:
2500-3000

>country:
US

>my build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xncK4g

anything that looks egregious here?

>>108673617
I would buy Nvidia next if they just weren't so fucking annoying to work with on Linux

I've never in my life seen tile flooring outside of a kitchen or bathroom.
But apparently everyone has it in the room they build their computer for some fucking reason.

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>2 sticks of 64 GB RAM cost more than a 5080

>>108677477
the living room is tile but the bedrooms are carpet here

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>>108676758
>I don't care about any of the features of the chipset or any distinguising factors of the motherboard other than it's ability to not expload under load.
Get a A620 PRO motherboard (something like: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A620AM%20Pro%20RS%20WiFi/index.asp) with big aluminium heatfans near the VRMs or a higher end B850 if you want something that is guaranteed to work out of the box and don't want to have to risk having to update your bios. I guess you could also just buy a bottom of the barrel motherboard and buy separate heat fins or little fans to cool the vrms and or desoder and replace any vrms that go bad if you want to go full >>>/diy/.

>>108677477
That’s what my mom used in the basement when she was building the house. I didn’t choose it.

>>108677302
The former takes 40 cycles to activate a row and pull out data and runs at 5.2 billion effective cycles a second. The latter takes only 30 cycles to do the same thing and runs at 6 billion effective cycles a second making it take a lot less time to respond to memory requests.

>>108677323
>>108677616
at least post benches if you going to meme anon into spending $200 more

I've accepted that there is no future for home pcs
Prices aren't going down, parts are becoming more scarce as part makers are catering to the companies before consumers
I'll just get a laptop and a game console for the price of a gpu or ram instead
Farewell pcbg

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>>108677664
4Ch Gentoo Wiki spammer was ahead of his time.

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>>108673121
I mean your display is what shows everything

>>108673307
>matte slop
>cucked bezels
>qdoled only exist in 55" an nothing inbetween 32"
guess I'm going back to monitors after all maybe, I'm tired of this

>>108673777
good morning I HATE the asus tax
the 27" variants should be even cheaper than 32" but it's the opposite
I wanna buy the pg32ucdm3 but wait for the dip
5k 27" should be coming eventually but you will take a refresh rate dip most likely, expect 165-180hz
wonder how visible fringing is on that dpi because 32" it's still very much so, people even say it's still on 27" but idk never tried
but for now pg32ucdm3 is the best panel

>>108674007
schizomaxxing

>>108677664
you say that as consolefags are abandoning their consoles for pc
only guy shilling consoles is frogboygaming schizo and you know he has the worst unhinged schizo takes on yt
the cost of consoles can never compete even if they are free to a pc, the value proposition is not even near
bad take very bad take
what is is interesting is next gen xbox if they make it a pc that can run windows or some shit maybe worth?

>>108677131
tandem woled sends their regards....

>Lower case fan speed from 50% to 30% at 33ºc/90ºf cpu temps
>no more fan noise
>check cpu temps with firefox open, went from 33ºc/91ºf to 36.5ºc/97.7ºf
I guess I'll get a few more fans and increase the airflow at low rpms or just undervolt, still have to configure the bottom front fan to speed up along with the gpu.

Why are the 250K and 270K Plus variants not being recommended?

>>108677931
They look boring

>>108677458
get a gen 4 nvme and save 100 bucks you can put towards an x3d cpu unless you're mostly using it as workstation

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>Australia
>$11k budget

Any recommendations or improvements? I'm trying to keep the build as WHITE as possible... I intend to mainly game/stream. Minor AI probably. Im unsure on the PSU, I feel like it might be a bit too weak for this build.
I don't have a monitor or any accessories like mouse and keyboard since this will be my first PC in over a decade....

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>UI runs without vsync for a split second

>>108673845
Are you just repeating that word in the vain hope that the outdated spam filter list will get updated?

>>108676646
>buy a midrange budget pc
>get mad that some random website says it's weak
It's a midrange budget PC. It'll do 1080p and most games will run just fine. It'll probably struggle with raytracing-based games, but you can always just use the poorfag cope card of calling it "unoptimized and stupid".

>>108678185
You can't be serious

>>108678185
> I'm trying to keep the build as WHITE as possible.
> Any recommendations
A conversion therapy.

>>108677931
250K & 270K are listed in this OP.
They're only worth buying if a decent CPU + motherboard bundle is available.

>>108677458
X3D or 270K

>>108678376
Non plus are shit though. Plus ones however look appealing. What beats them? Not talking strictly gaymen.

>>108678185
skip the 9950x3d and go for the 9950x3d2
get the x3d refresh version of that motherboard
get 6000cl30-39-39 ram to guarantee hynix a-die
get the sn8100 since it performs better runs cooler than the 9100 pro

>>108678185
>mah all out build
>1tb ssd

I bought an amd gpu once and my dick literally fell off

Do some monitors of the same size (and resolution) handle screendoor effect better than the others?

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>an lg c5 42" costs 701€ on sale now again
130€ less than a dicounted pg32ucdmz.....

>>108678873
I heard that right now (March-May) is the best time to buy TVs, since stores are getting rid off the last year models as the new models are getting released

Some people on le Reddit claim 1080p with 2.25x DLDSR looks AND runs better than 1440p. Am I getting meme'd?

>>108678935
1080p with DLDSR 2.25x is 1620p, so that would be impossible for it run better than 1440p, unless they compare it using DLSS on top of it, while native at 1440p.

>>108678896
same sales have been going on at different retailers running promos
especially in eu due to the football dogshit
so sale + special discounted = even deeper discount
so yeah

>>108678935
>redditors are retarded
Who knew? Downscaling like that works as a form of antialiasing and can do magic if you're e.g. taking a 2011 game and running it at 4k downscaled to 1080, but it's not going to "look and run better" than 1440p unless you're comparing that 2011 game at 4k, or 1620p in your example, to a relatively modern game at 1440p native.

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I want to replace my secondary IPS monitor for a miniled one. Is there a cheap, decent option, or should I get a cheap OLED instead? I use that display for static content only.

>>108676646
you'll play anything new on 1080poverty monitors with no problems at all, 60fps at the bare minimum for anything. Not sure what you're bitching about. Your cpu will hold you back if you play on entry-level 1440p 144hz monitors though.

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>>108678540
There are no "non plus" 270K or 250K. When we say 270K, it's referring to the 270K Plus.
You've been mindfucked by all the corporate marketing.
There's a character limit to the OP.

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>>108678935
retarded poorfags coping with their poverty monitors always lie about shit, they're not trying to convince you of anything, they're trying to cope about their poorfaggotry.

If you can see the pixels, you're raping your eyes while gaming. Period.

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4k 240hz is the new standard, take it or leave it

>>108679770
Yeah but Im on 4k 144Hz though and its fine. Its bretty sharp actually.

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>>108678785
OWARI DA

so tired of being a 5090-let

>>108678935
here's the brutal truth anon: you cannot replace physical pixels, which a higher quality monitor has more of
enjoy

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>>108680159
the real killer is pixel density, 27 monitor or 1440p unironically looks better than 4k because of the density per dimension, i have a 720p PLASMA from the 2010s and shit unironically works better than my 1440p display and the cheap ass 4k tv my cousin has because of this

>>108680236
Sorry but that already got debunked when Jensen confirmed the 6090 and decided to stop the CPX gpus to fully unlock all GDDR7 to the 60 series https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rubin-cpx-is-off-the-roadmap-but-may-return-with-feynman-in-2028/

>>108680186
Pixel density requirement depends on viewing distance, the closer you are the more pixel density you want, yeah
>27 monitor or 1440p unironically looks better than 4k because of the density per dimension
Not sure what you're trying to say here, 4k 27" monitors are plentiful.

>>108680425
i meant to say that 27 monitor is when it start making sense to get a 4k display for pc anything smalelr and at a dekstop distance it becomes a problem

>>108680548
Yeah for a typical desk I'd say 27" is the point at which you'd want to consider 4k.

>>108669341
>250K can only work with ddr5
Damn

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1440p 27" Alienware QD-OLED for less than $350 in the US.
200 nits maximum SDR brightness, but it's manageable if you don't use it in a very bright room.
I have a 250 nits maximum SDR QD-OLED, and its brightness is usually set to under 50%.

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>>108681053
>200 nits maximum SDR brightness
>see this
>wonder what my current monitor is rated for
>only 350 nits
>apparently running it at 50% brightness
>bump it up to 80% brightness
>everything looks better
Damn, I might just be retarded. Thanks anon. Saved me $300.

>>108681399
>350 nits
>80% brightness
What the fuck
I run my C2 at 80 nits because even 100 is uncomfortably bright.

Everyone online says not to turn Windows HDR on in SDR content because it will look like ass, and yeah the desktop looks terrible like this but in (SDR) games and videos it does look better than with Windows HDR turned off. Am I blind or something?

Hello, tech gurus. I think it's time to replace something in my PC but I'm not sure what exactly.

Windows 11 started rebooting with Kernel-Power 41 event randomly. All bios-tier solutions internet offered didn't help. Getting a new SSD and clean windows 11 install on it didn't help. Installing different RAM in different slots didn't help. Which one is the most likely cause: PSU, MB or CPU? Or GPU even. Everything worked fine for like 2 years.

12600k/4090/some old 1050W no-name PSU without 2VHPWR/some cheap old gigabyte MB

>>108681607
>*without 12VHPWR

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>>108681545
If you have wide gamut monitor, SDR mode on default monitor settings will use its full gamut, but SDR content in HDR mode will always be clamped to sRGB gamut.
Some types of content are designed for and might look better when clamped, like brown and gray movies and military shooter games.
Some other types of content, like most anime or retro/pixel games, do not have photorealistic reference point and some people prefer to have them in wide gamut, but other people hate it and call it oversaturated.

>>108681607
Download HWInfo and share a screenshot of the motherboard's power rail readings (+12V, +5V, +3.3V).
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/performance/event-id-41-restart

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>>108681607
>some old 1050W no-name PSU without 2VHPWR
You already know the answer anon

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>>108681646
this one?

>>108681648
I have a hunch it is actually PSU's fault but yeah

>>108681729
At least the software voltage readings are fine.
I would test the PC without the video card, and make sure the 4090's power cables are firmly seated on both sides when you reinstall it.
It's not a terrible time to buy a new PSU.
If the GPU's power connector looks fine (not melted), I'd probably replace the PSU first before buying a new CPU and motherboard.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yJkqqs/montech-century-ii-1050-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-1050w
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ds8Pxr/montech-century-ii-1200-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-1200w
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3xmNnQ/super-flower-leadex-vii-platinum-pro-1200-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-1200f14xp
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7xHqqs/super-flower-leadex-vii-xg-1300-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-1300f14xg
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3pvscf/be-quiet-pure-power-13-m-1200-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bp029us
be Quiet PSU cables are a bit shorter and stiff.

>>108681729
Also, go all the way down to the 4090 sensors and check the GPU 12VHPWR Voltage reading.

>>108681746
Should've bought only one of those. You don't need more than one miniLED/OLED monitor.

>>108681746
>25"
>1080p

>>108681464
I'm getting old, anon. I need the blinding light of a sun-like monitor just to make out fine details and colour.

>>108681746
I tried one, ended up returning it for a couple of reasons, but overall found it to be a very solid monitor.
Return reasons:
>already had a 27" 1440p 165Hz IPS that looked almost as good from a pure colour perspective and the extra screen real-estate mattered more to me
>build quality was a little too "meh" for me; screen wobble is a pet peeve
>halo-ing in dark scenes was pretty noticeable (but partially because the blacks were surprisingly black compared to my IPS
Granted, it was my first time interacting with a mini-LED monitor, but aside from the quibbles I had, I found it pretty impressive, especially for the price.

crt chad here. i have a 2060 with analogue output. is there any faster/more recent video card on the market that has analogue out or is my card as good as it gets for that niche?

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>>108681771
Yeah, will try some more different stuff this weekened

>>108681784
Here it is. And yes, both GPU fans were actually not spinning.
Ran msi afterburner to force spin them (on the right)

>>108681827
You can buy a display port to VGA active adapter and connect it to a newer GPU, but do some research to avoid terrible ones.
This one's capped @ 1080p 60Hz
https://www.startech.com/en-us/display-video-adapters/dp2vgahd20

>>108681889
Expand the GPU Rail Voltages row (click on ">")
You don't want to see the GPU 12VHPWR Voltage dip too low under load.

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>>108681908

>>108681917
Run a free benchmark like Unigine Superposition with HWInfo open.
3DMark Steel Nomad is also free, but it might crash when you have HWInfo opened. Run it with HWInfo closed if it crashes during the benchmark.
You don't need to post the benchmark score, check if the PC can complete the test.
If your PC shuts down during one of those runs, I'd hope PSU is the faulty component (at least the protections are working?).

>>108681948
Might do that later, gotta run for now.
As for the windows reboots with Kernel-Power 41 I've noticed that it's much more likely to occur when the system is idle or running some light games like Vampire Crawlers or Hearthstone Battlegrounds. Never once rebooted when I played some heavy games like PoE2.

>>108682046
I'd probably take the 4090 out and test those games on the iGPU when you have the time. GL.

Where's the miniled technology nowadays? I have had the 32" neo G7 for a while and it's great but I just hate that it's curved and so freaking large.
Any good 28" 4k or 24" 1440p flatscreen miniled references out there yet?

why do games feel like they run better when a youtube video is playing in the background

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>>108682547
Wait for mini-LED monitors with RGB backlighting; it’s likely 2–3 years away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuk6ohc3_vY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVcTeXdZjV4

Does wake from sleep issues occur in 9070 XT when undervolting?

Since I setup mine, my computer crashes when sleeping for so long then waking up from it.

>>108683224
Reduce the undervolt a bit and find out.
Usually it's an unstable CPU undervolt that causes system crashes.
Unstable GPU UV would crash the display driver, not the entire PC.

Bought a, new to me, server gpu. For, YOU GUESSED IT, local ai, so my whole family can have a lil chat bot to do tasks for them, instead of being datamined.

>>108683315
It actually started happening once I put in my GPU undervolt, I've tested with and without my CPU undervolt settings and both crashed. I have not yet without my GPU undervolt, I'll try it again tonight and see.

Wish there could be a setting in Adrenalin where it ignores offset when at low power state if this is the case.

>>108669341
this seems dumb. I just bought 3 4TB nvme's and 2 14TB HDDs. normal SSDs don't serve a purpose anymore

>>108683224
>9070 XT
Is that the new $500 videocard from AMD?

>>108683371
Yeah cold storage = HDD
active storage = NVME SSD

sata SSDs are just in a bad spot

>>108683371
>>108683431
sata SSDs would not be in such a bad spot NOW if retail prices did not rise, and I don't mean the recent happening, I mean those 8TBs were under $300 each a couple years ago.

>>108683356
You can keep the undervolt intensity the same if you slightly lower the maximum boost frequency offset, like -50 or -100 MHz.
The last +50~100MHz is more voltage demanding and power inefficient. You'll see almost no performance difference for the stability tradeoff.

>>108683371
I keep frequently updated multiplayer games on my older SATA SSD.
But there isn't much point to buying new SATA SSDs.

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SSD prices are fucked too? Crazy.