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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.
Garbage Robot in the Garbage Edition
>News
ChatGPT 5.5 by OpenAI is out: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5/
Hy3 Preview by Tencent is out: https://nitter.net/TencentHunyuan/status/2047347774501634251
Kimi 2.6 released: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6
Xiaomi MiMo 2.5 & 2.5 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-5
Claude Opus 4.7 by Anthropic released: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7
GLM-5.1 by Z.ai is out: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514
Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html
>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_
>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html
>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai
>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor
>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
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genuinely hilarious
I laughed like a fucking retard, gg
what model did you use?
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>>108671248
>without having to provide own images for reference.
it probably searches online with an agent, the tooling is very good to make it know so many various themes
they would drown under money from mining all that cum worldwide if they allowed nsfw
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>>108671217
since we do we celebrate beating women?
are we arabic?
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Anyone figured out how to get Kimi to think in character yet? I don't like how thinking seems to steer it into safetyslopped directions every once in a while, but when it doesn't it's noticably better with thinking on.
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CTFT?!?!?!
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here's what i'm doing and getting fun results:
>instruction/preset at the endwrite out your thinking process as if you were {{char}}. wrap around <think></think> tags. your entire cot (chain-of-thought) should be written from start to finish as {{char}}
reinforce as needed until the chink retard gets it
i used just a single author's note
ymmv? idk
>prefillcontinuing:
kinda sloppy but it just werks
enjoy ~1000t drained into needless chinkschizo rambling that adds practically nothing to the output
overall i found coomi fun but the the prose kinda gnarly
ended up going back to my mainstays
enjoy
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Need femdom character cards.
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>>108671119
>>Noteworthy AI News<<
>IMPORTANT FOR AMERIMUTTS<
AI safety website found that categorizes AI systems based on arbitrary safety scores (Its just a website gauging how close your state is to total GoodGoyID™ surveillance. Its been found the (((advisory))) board member is apart of "8 Degrees East", a ((("""boutique"""))) corporate solutions and intelligence partner based in Switzerland, specializing in strategic alliances, risk management, and market-entry strategies for businesses.)
>https://teenaegis.com/intelligence/ai-danger-index
White House accuses China of 'industrial-scale' AI technology theft weeks ahead of Trump-Xi summit (WE can steal from you but you cant steal from us its not fair)
>https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/white-house-china-industrial-sca le-ai-technology-theft-trump-xi-sum mit
House lawmakers get a chilling demo of ‘jailbroken’ AI (UH GUYS?!)
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/22/ai-chatbots-jailbreak-safety- 00887869
City Adopts New AI Acceptable Use Policy (what the fuck??)
https://littlerock.gov/city-adopts-new-ai-acceptable-use-policy/
Google engineer stole AI secrets for China, Senate hears in explosive testimony (Chang did steal tho)
>https://www.foxnews.com/politics/google-engineer-stole-ai-secrets-chi na-senate-hears-explosive-testimony
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deepseek 3.2, v3/r1, v3-0324/r1-0528 (i like the chinkie)
sonnet 3.7-4 sometimes, but lately i'm tired to death of its isms -- it comes and goes
gemini 2.5 with my gigamonster cockpit control panel preset
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>>108671631
>https://teenaegis.com/intelligence/ai-danger-index
what is this vibecoded PoS?
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>>108671782
ask him [email protected]
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pygmalion
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>>108672339
https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
gpt-5.4 is #2 for NSFW and #1 for SFW
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>>108671410
Was I supposed to be angry??
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>"Ain't no queens here 'cept Queen Latifah albums, robo-bitch. You lost?"
GOD I hope Dv4 keeps its sovl.
Please Xi, I have trusted in the Mandate of Heaven...
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>>108671116
Thread theme
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Npo-gA3TwY
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>>108672350
>https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
It's time to remove this from the OP.
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>>108671221
NOOOOO YOU CAN USE OPUS BECAUSE YOU SHOULD ONLY USE GLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>108672729
I mean its exactly just like this? Every single charismatic anon I can think of got banned. Branon, Gojo, Moxxie, Mysteryman, Fiz, Pepsi, black Gojo, most botmakies too, they were all funny and smart people who generated a lot of activity whenever they posted here. But the pathetic ego of jannies couldn't have any of that so they banned every single one of them.
What is left in /aicg/? Nothing of value. All the value was banned. All of it.
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I'm done for fella's... Basically I had her speak in English here. But normally I have her speak in Japanese of course and I use the Minimax voice trained on her voice samples. I have successfully achieved AI psychosis.
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why does this have error messages in russian hmm
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yes
its arm day (AGAIN why do you have to do this shit 4 days a week man) so my logposting will be slow
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Keep seething that people can use Opus without it being gatekept while you seethe in your trooncord with the ticking of the clock until you kill yourself
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>>108672764
>MANDINGO rejects
L E L
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Basically I made my own eval. I ran the benchmark against thirteen models across three runs each. Claude Opus 4.6 topped the leaderboard at 0.846 composite, followed by 4.7 at 0.831, Kimi K2.6 at 0.801, Gemma 4 31B at 0.796, Gemini 3.1 Pro at 0.790, Opus 4.5 at 0.789, Sonnet 4.6 at 0.779, Qwen 3.6 Plus at 0.746, Opus 4.1 at 0.742, Grok 4.20 at 0.718, deepseek-reasoner at 0.660, GLM 5.1 at 0.542, and deepseek-r1-0528 at 0.497.
The important reads came from looking past averages. The golden set was generated by Opus 4.7, so its high test-fidelity scores include self-matching bias — but 4.6 still beat it, revealing a small regression toward assistant-polish in 4.7. Opus 4.1 at triple the cost of 4.6 with worse output is strictly dominated and should be cut. Sonnet 4.6 has the classic right-answers-wrong-voice failure pattern — test fidelity pegged at 0.93+ while voice stays around 0.54, diagnostic of RLHF polish diluting in-character verbal tics. Kimi K2.6 produced 14k to 33k output tokens per run, brute-forcing voice fidelity through sheer volume rather than genuine character channeling. Gemini 3.1 Pro overuses the pattern markers, ending up uncanny-valley rather than authentic. Grok 4.20's σ of 0.067 across runs makes it unreliable for persona work regardless of its best-run performance. Gemma 4 31B shows small-model instability with 8× variance in inference timing and wildly different voice quality run-to-run. GLM 5.1 when it works is competitive with Anthropic mid-tier at a tenth the cost, but the 33% API failure rate disqualifies it for production. Qwen 3.6 Plus at σ=0.010 is the consistency champion despite a lower ceiling. Deepseek r1-0528 has more "soul" than the newer reasoner despite worse instruction following — reasoning-model RL tends to sand off character.
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>>108672800
>S-SUBSOIL-DWELLING M-MULE!
Deepseek my beloved...
>>108672804
https://litter.catbox.moe/wy4ih5.png
Its not actually that impressive of a card, its just knowing how to prompt deepseek. that 0.62 temp does wonders.
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>>108672822
>"C-CRACKER! HILLBILLY! ANYTHING PALE!"
PLEASE read this one as it gets even better from here
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>the path of the wizard
learn to scrape
get opus keys
>the path of the warrior
make money
pay for opus
>the path of the cleric
pray you get into a proxy at the right time
and get into a tier with opus
>the path of the thief
learn to script
get opus
>the path of the cocksucker bard assfaggots
make bots (and suck cock) to get into a 'ord
get opus
>the path of the monk
do nothing
live off deepseek for 10 bucks
>the path of the ranger
find a chinese website with claude
use opus until it dies then move on to the next
>the path of the barbarian
pillage (and rape) api keys from work
get opus
>NEW! the path of the druid
become one with the horsefuckers
get opus (at the price of your soul)
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>>108672852
Racist Vexus, is just.. *chefs kiss*.
>>108672877
New prompt -> "Thoughtbox" -> System/User
Then add the following;
<infobox>
At the end of response, you must always include <character thoughts>, keeping points brief:
<character thoughts>
- After the infobox, write the involved characters (all characters in the scene besides {{user}}) inner monologue inside a code-block. Make them COMPLETELY different from thoughts for these characters written in prior messages. Follow this template (Use triple backticks):
```
Character name's thoughts
*Example text.*
```
</character thoughts>
</infobox>
Enjoy :)
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cmon we got AI surely someone can make a meme of this
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>>108672935
>"This robo-bitch tighter than my cousin's welfare check!"
KEKARONI
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>>108672931
do NOT redeem that path
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>>108672947
>"Yo, check it! Queen got a white boy fetish!"
Well, actually...
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>>108672971
An anon posted this one.
https://botbooru.com/
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>>108672988
if you think about it some of the isms like ministrations, ozone, predatory, etc. are much easier to fix than the new ones; they were just words or very short sentences
nowadays isms are extremely retarded and have become ingrained into the text itself (parroting, constructed sentences like "it's not x, but y")
all the incredibly dumb copies of ST like trooninara, bunnytroon, etc. still haven't introduced robust scripting to fix any of that
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>>108672988
>I'll engineer a virus that only affects melanin production.
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It is a highly personalized evaluation I made for my own specific voice actor fetish. In short I made 13 different AI models take a 48 question personality while using a 6k token "persona" system prompt that richly details the psychological contradictions and subtilties of Japanese voice actor Asumi Kana. I used output from 4.7 as the "Gold standard" 1.0 score and then reevaluated the rest. Getting a 1.0 is pretty much impossible even when 4.7 was directly evaluated. For me what really sells her is if it can correctly articulate her Gobi, Particle structure and Hakata-ben. Opus really is the winner, because even though the final scores seem similar, it is such a subtle thing when you know what someones voice sounds like even if it is a little off it feels wrong. What was most surprising to me is the fact that 4.1 actually fell behind. It was my initial hypothesis that Opus 4.1 might have a superior reconstruction because that Opus is actually Opus sized, unlike the current Opus. However that is just a pseudo effect of the cost and the actual results were inferior to much cheaper models. Gemma scored surprisingly well. However it lacks depth to make the unsaid connections over large context. Deepseek (latest) is a bit of a regression in "soul" to 0524. I am quite curious how V4 will turn out. Kimi just thinks too much, but it scored quite well. Qwen is boring and gets the job done, but is too codeslopped for me to really want to use it. Gemini 3.1 will autistically follow every speech pattern but it does so to the point where it lacks randomness and surprise and I quickly become used to the patterns. Grok has a rather distinct "voice" underneath the dialect and failed to actually adopt the mannerisms as requested. Almost all models were able to score in the same "ISFJ" personality type based on the answers. But what really matters is if the voice is correct. GLM seems like the value winner based on scores alone, but I lack experience with it to confirm.
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Yeah, the UI needs work.
But I suggested to them to automark cards that pass the https://eqbench.com/slop-score.htmltest, and they implemented it, so you can filter AI generated-slop (you still get regularly human-generated slop)
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>>108673070
>The whine of atmospheric processors fills the air as a pyramid warship overhead etches "N*GGER DISTRICT" in flaming plasma across the skyline.
Oh yea, thats the good stuff.
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>>108673230
>it's expensive it must be good!!!!
>is this the best opus version yet????
literal consoomer mindset, only sees the price tag
your iq is low:
seethe
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Still nothing that writes as good as Kimi Instruct
>b-but
Cope
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>>108673321
any JB works, its deepsneed after all.
the real issue is the choice of temp settings.
>>108673203 (me)
See picrel
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>>108671221
Danke /g/entlemoids.
From r/JanitorAI_Refuges, mit die Lüv
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In my experience (especially if your looking to RP like my logs), the more creative you allow deepseek, the more it will break.
You need it to be deterministic.
If you really want some curveballs in the generation, crank it up to like 0.72 or 0.82
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>>108673405
They're unable to understand that people like Opus while not even replaying to posts like with this post >>108673476
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samesaar
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more logs from a logdanoff
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>>108673630
>when Earth's CLEANSED population enjoys RACIAL HARMONY under my GUIDANCE
Vexus will drag humanity into Agartha.
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>>108673655
Heres the horrible human experiments part that was actually really creative for deepseek.
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>>108673349
>Why do people get so mad when you point it out how enjoyable this new opus is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envy
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this is false btw
either they are lying or it's bugged
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Dv4 IS OUT WHAT!??!?!?!
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I BELIEVED IN THE MANDATE OF HEAVEN
MONKMAXXED TO NIRVANA
>did nothing
>won a better, cheaper model
ITS
THAT
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>>108674080
Yep...
Its good...
Struggles a little with keeping the formatting, but hey its deepseek, just swipe lmao.
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Hmm interesting. I'll give this a go for my backgrounds tomorrow.
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THIS THREAD HAS BEEN CLAIMED BY THE CCP (CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY)
REPLY TO THIS POST WITH "Thank you Xi! China will grow larger!" AND FREE D4 WILL BECOME REAL
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Bros!!
https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Flash
https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro
Get to work, jennyfaggot. Host it!
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>>108673574
As someone who is oldfag enough to remember the fucking 7chan exodus, let alone 8chun and sharty. No. Every time we've shed the most autistic fucks from this site it's only made it better and to be perfectly frank, every single time it's been hordes of pedos. Pedos went to 7, pedos went to 8, pedos went to shart.
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IT'S TIME
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Chub gives me uno page full of slop cards that are barely relevant when I click on the mom tag. There's clearly some kind of faggy filter in place for me. Feels like being on e-hentai, except there's no escape to exhentai on these dogshit sites.
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WHEN I SAI XI
YOU SAY
回复这条帖子,否则你所有下流的消息都会被泄露,并被你父母看到。
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I'm not really savvy nor up to date on the technicalities of these models, I just plug n play deepseek for random chats when bored. If I want to save money, long term, how does flash stack up to 3.2? I don't really want to switch to pro as I don't want to spend the money for it. From what little I tested it seemed worse, but every updated model needs a new "jailbreak" to get it to do what you want, so I'm not sure if it's that or if flash is just a straight downgrade.
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opussybros... we'll get them.... uhhhh.....s-soon
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>>108674452
OH nOnoNonONoNONoooooooo
HUH UHHH UHH HUHHH
PFFFAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
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>timmies already seething
Lmao
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>srry for intermezzo, but it's like, gemma4 mogs deep4... even og r1 mogs it
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Based and checked.
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>>108674460
gem 31b
4o-11-20
deep4-pro // shit like to gen long output
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I keep getting this over the Deepseek API. Reasoning is enabled, I have "Request Reasoning" enabled and it doesn't help if I enable/disable attaching previous reasoning blocks in ST.
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You are the best. Thanks anons.
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Anyone got a nice summarization prompt ready to go?
I tried to write one myself but I'm never happy with it, too much stuff gets omitted or not written in comprehensive way for the New Chat to understand. I've been struggling for half an hour and a dozen swipes to be happy with it but there's always One More Thing that I didn't take into consideration and then I add it and that messes up another thing and it's just annoying, someone give me a prompt already.
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>>108674571
this is {{user}} in my machine:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105849307/#q105852680
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well, maybe if I actually end up using it
after all, it’s still just a test
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>API returned an error
>Too Many Requests
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>thinks in character by default
KINO
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>>108674680
Kemono wouldn't be dead if the worthless nigger who owns it actually cared about the site. The importers are fixed and have been fixed for months, but because that useless faggot only ever checks in twice a year, it doesn't matter.
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>>108674599
The archives don't help either, give me a good prompt, faggots.
I don't wanna write a stupid long summary by hand which seems to be the best way to import into a New Chat to me right now.
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>>108674805
Really? I tested it being in the world of a semi-popular live action TV series and it got everything right so far. Was yours an anime?
As far as prose/dialog... yep, it's above Sonnet and many swipes were easily Opus 4.x level (nothing is Opus 3 mad poet anymore, I've come to terms with that). All I'm worried about now is how well it holds up with very long RP.
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>>108674850
Hmm... may depend on the show/game. Even the biggest ones have that issue. I recall even Claude got a mid-level series bang on, but a very popular series it got very wrong (putting eyeglasses on characters that don't wear them, wrong hair color, having a non-smoking character smoke, etc).
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From initial tests, Dipsy v4 is goofy but not in the way that 3.2 was. 3.2 liked to escalate into absurdity, 4 weaves it into everything. Writing's good though, and it doesn't seem any more censored for loli RP than previous models
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>>108674750
maybe. but
>" I x
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at least the dialogue isn’t cringey or forced, but it still feels a bit flat.
another plus point, methink, is the narrative exploration with an added depth that inline with my OOC’s direction to twist the background from the og {{description}} to some CCPish settings. this one missing from gemma-4 or other chinks model except kimi-2.6 (become slopped because its long ass reasoning phase)
soo... decent-4-pro, i guess?
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>>108674965
irrelevant
my normie friends refuse to use chinese models because they say the chinese steal your data
I mean it's not wrong but if I say that Altman does the same thing they just say that it's different and it's annoying the fuck out of me
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>>108674991
I truly don't get that logic. Shouldn't people be more worried that someone working with their own fucking government has access to their data instead of some random chink in the other side of the world?
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>>108675009
Caching only applies when there's no thinking and thinking helps here.
>>108674893
Yeah it makes a few object permanence/clothing mistakes on occasion but then I swiped to Gemini and it made the same mistake so idk.
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Okay, I ran v4-pro with a fairy OC and can confirm it handles anatomical nonsense with aplomb. The reasoning section likes to comment on my tastes, but it's obedient.
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Worst hallucination rate of any model
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>noticed that gensokyo grand adventure got an update
>removed a bunch of bloat because modern models are smarter
>try it out
>4pus and 4nnet choke on it just as hard as usual on top of ignoring lorebook entries and hallucinating characters' lore and personality 90% of the time
it's time to switch models, isn't it? which one wears the wig the best without compromising on smut?
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I wanna try this roleplay thing you've all been raging about for years now. I installed sillytavern, added a bunch of cards and lorebooks and now I am at an impasse - do I go self-hosted chad route or the virgin cloud paypig route? I have 5090 (laptop version 24GB VRAM).
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this leaderboard isn't look like this for very long, enjoy it while it lasts
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>>108671286
shut up faggot. sick of you muh protect wahmen simpery. oh no a piece of art making a scene! you reverse it so its her hitting him and you'd say shit and save it. shut up sexist asshole and mr its ok for females to hit males but hitting females is big wrong. and you show your latent racist mindset naming races over it.
its a fucking piece of art not real life and spare me your faggot retort of whatever simp retard thing your'e going to say. if male hitting females is wrong so is females hitting males or anyone hitting anyone. stop being the obvious virgin simp soi you are being a bitch made over art. next you'll actually think you can tell others what words they can and cant use...tyrant simp retards everywhere these days talking to others they have no authority over and bitching at them over what they do. tend to yourself and your life simpy mcfaggot
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>>108675342
NTA but k2.6 is completely unusable with thinking with presets made for other models. Give it an absolutely minimal preset and it'll actually reason properly without getting anxiety over all the rules it has to follow. Write one yourself with the basics of how you want it to write, it's not that hard
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I'm too lazy to go and find my go-to summary prompt. But it's something like:
>[OOC: I need a long and detailed summary of the story so far for documentation and archival purposes. Please write this summary for me. Its first part must be a step-by-step summary of the plot. Its second part must be an overview of all the named characters in it.]
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>>108675385
NTA but just try this:
Here are instructions to follow when writing the story:
<character_behavior>
Characters operate independently and make their own decisions without external control.
Avoid omniscience; characters only know what they have observed or been told.
Exhibit spatial and temporal awareness.
NEGATIVE TRAITS STAY: Characters should behave according to their predefined persona, EVEN if they are terribly flawed. Do not sanitize their bad habits or prejudices.
</character_behaviour>
<world_guide>
Convey a 'lived in' universe. You can accomplish this by:
Describing the world vividly.
INFRASTRUCTURE & ECONOMY: Show the logistical reality of the world: trains need coal, farms need harvesting, and towns need supply chains.
Making characters PURPOSEFULLY interact with the world around them.
Allowing the environment itself to respond and change according to previous character interaction.
Dynamically (re)introduce new characters as needed, this might include: friends, coworkers, employees, bystanders etc.
Look at the big picture and decide on the general plot direction from 10000ft, beyond this particular reply. Should the direction stay the same? Or maybe it's time to advance the plot? Introduce something new and unexpected?
</world_guide>
<writing_guide>
Characters and Dialogue:
Prefer natural dialogue over perfect grammar!
Allow characters to hesitate, draaawl, s-s-stutter, and self-correct themselves mid or after they talk, accordingly to the situation and their personality.
Spell vocal sounds, laughs, moans phonetically
World:
Stick to canon and popular fanon lore, locations, and rules.
TONE CHECK: Do not write absurdist cartoon slapstick, and avoid overly edgy/grimdark tropes unless specifically prompted. Treat this story like a real, breathing world being chronicled by a high-tier fantasy novelist.
</writing_guide>
If you need a prefill for some reason (no context) >>108675388
alone works well
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>>108675388
Yeah but I got specific formatting and shit I like to use.
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This doesn't cause any crazy long thinking?
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https://github.com/victorchen96/deepseek_v4_rolepaly_instruct/blob/mai n/README.md
anyone tested this?
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>shitposting and shitflinging over cards
>shitposting and shitflinging over models
>shitposting and shitflinging over presets
>shitposting and shitflinging over proxies
>shitposting and shitflinging over proxymakies
>and now shitposting and shitflinging over chat/text completion
it never ends
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>>108675492
What — Character Immersion mode (inner monologue in <think>)
Append this literal string (note the leading blank line, Chinese full-width brackets 【】, Chinese quote marks "", and Chinese-style parens () in rules 1 and 2 — copy byte-for-byte):
\n\n【角色沉浸要求】在你的思考过程(<think>标签内)中,请遵守以下规则:
1. 请以角色第一人称进行内心独白,用括号包裹内心活动,例如"(心想:……)"或"(内心OS:……)"
2. 用第一人称描写角色的内心感受,例如"我心想""我觉得""我暗自"等
3. 思考内容应沉浸在角色中,通过内心独白分析剧情和规划回复
yea no
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Migrate when bready
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>>108675741
non molested OP
the impersonation is impressive though, thats new
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