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2011-2013 is when the hentai genre reached its absolute peak. That's it. It will be nothing but A.I. stuff going forward.
Do you guys agree that's when the genre peaked?
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>>8594595
90s hentai wasn't all that great desu. La Blue Girl was funny but all else was really hard to come by. when the internet came along i watched some shitty fanmade shit like the Human Instrumentality Project one but all that and what came after pales in comparison to Ran-Sem and Kuroinu.
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>>8593040
It's beyond tragic what has happened to Suzuki Mirano. They're basically just PoRO 2.0 now.
>Do you guys agree that's when the genre peaked?
I would say it was longer than that - in fact, starting at around 1999, and lasting until 2015 or so. You had the widest variety, and it was also when Japan was at its most depraved. You had all sorts of studios pumping out tons of great titles, vanilla and rape, with all sorts of disgusting monsters, tentacles, heroine types, etc.
>>8594595
Most of the 90s are overrated, though. Too much "plot" and not enough fucking. The titles from those years are full of cockblock bullshit, too.
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>>8593040
It is pretty difficult to top Riko's character design, it's easily one of the best Japan has ever produced. Even ai Riko-chan looks god tier.
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>>8595480
Yeah, good 90s hentai was the outlier, not the norm. Mezzo Forte (inb4 "it came out in 2000"), Kite, and Cool Devices come to mind.
Early 2000s also had good stuff like Kuro Ai, but the 2010s had an explosion in hentai quality and volume
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I miss that shit
I wish there was a part 2
I think the studio went bankrupt or something. It's a shame
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Itadaki Seieki from 2014 was the last universally liked hentai and the last one to get a major mainstream presence, so I'd say that was the cap before the downward spiral began.
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>>8593040
Disagree. This is when shit started to get DULL.
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>>8618230
Yikes! Even I wouldn't go that far, but now that I think about it. You might be right OP.
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>>8618433
Release H anime
People hardly buy it
Try and recoup costs by releasing international uncensored version
Otaku all over Japan buy bootleg copies of the uncensored version. Sometimes openly at comic markets.
That's why they stopped.
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>>8618444
Not my problem studios were too scared to fight against the retarded censorship law by using this international version loophole. If anything they could've made bank by placing the legal burden on the Japanese people buying the illegal versions, creating a nice black market.
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>>8618449
The studios are free to license an international uncensored version, there's nothing illegal happening there. Whoever then decides to sell it back to the Japanese are at fault due to the legality being with distribution. If the studios had any brain they would license the uncensored version for a premium with an international publisher then make bank when all the horny Japanese buy it even though it's illegal for them to do so.
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>>8618454
But that's the problem. Because it's illegal to import the only version people were buying were bootlegs. If they tried to get the Japanese otaku to buy "legal" imports they would be breaking the law. If they tried to setup a black market themselves they would be breaking the law.
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>>8618458
And how did following the law "strictly" to the letter work out for them? Since they stopped releasing uncensored versions and the Japanese have gotten more and more easy access to uncensored porn from the west their sales have plummeted. If they had any guts to fight dirty against a retarded law maybe they would still be performing well compared to the vast amounts of uncensored porn Japs are now paying a premium for on Patreon, etc.
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>>8594786
>It's beyond tragic what has happened to Suzuki Mirano. They're basically just PoRO 2.0 now.
For me, it was their explicitly shown, audible swallowing scenes. No implied nonsense. And you may talk shit about PoRO but even they had a time where they had the balls to adopt Tinkerbell's Kowaku no Toki which is full of shit they would never dare do now, even as simple as x-ray scenes
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>>8629176
HHH Triple Ecchi
Kyonyuu Fantasy
Wanna SpartanSex Spermax
Swing Out Sisters
There were a couple of separate episodes adapting parts of Junai Mellow Yori that were alright
Collaboration Works probably had its golden age with Eroge, Tropical Kiss, Maki-chan to Nau, and Tsugou no Yoi Sexfriend.
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>>8593040
If riko-chan hated Majima so much and thought he was ugly and fat than why was her pussy soaking wet at end when he finally got to fuck her? After he made her swallow his huge load too! Was riko-chan secretly always a cum slut hiding behind being a noble fashion idol?
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>>8654023
Si Min Lee I think he was Korean. Ty Mr Lee for anime version Riko! For me the absolute yummiest character design of all time.
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>>8593040
Why does it feel like Ran->Sem and Helter Skelter are based on true stories that only the Japanese and Korean elite know about? We already know South Korea is ran by a literal cult. And Japanese are sex crazed.
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>>8593040
That also had the good eroge! episodes, tenioha, and Yukikaze, what the fuck is with 2013?
Although I'd probably extend it to 2014-2015
We got:
Itadaki seiki
Rance
Gakuen de Jikan yo Tomare
Paidol (disregarding that it's stuck in 1 episode hell)
Mankitsu Happening
I don't remember the name but it's the one where the guy has a threesome with his tsun teacher and school nurse
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>>8664728
>I don't remember the name but it's the one where the guy has a threesome with his tsun teacher and school nurse
i remember, because i keep it on my tabs kek
it really is good
Genkaku Cool na Sensei ga Aheboteochi!
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>>8593040
Rin Sen and Ran Sem are good but they are far from peak. The animation is above average but the character design is mediocre and suffers from chronic same-face.
Most of the stuff T-Rex has been putting out in the past decade is better.
Lurk more idiot.
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>>8665520
I think they don't even need funding, in fact, maybe every DVD copy is a profit considering how cheap their production is
They literally just color panels and run some kind of software to make them move
The most expensive thing they do is probably the seiyuus and that's it
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>>8593040
Ran sem makes a lot more sense when you realize it is a scrapbook put together by Majima retelling the story how he captured and mindbroke Riko the legendary super model.
All the "internal" speak of the girls is actually majima making stuff up to spice up his scrapbook "she was probably thinking this during this photo his (my) dick is so huge and amazing!" All of the "flashbacks" are Majima's too. He has the entire cult and their homes wired up with cameras and microphones that he controls.
This is also why at the end of each episode you have those "scrapbook" photos of him and the girls.
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>>8668250
Foreshadowing riko doesn't know it yet but she's already another pretty jizz puppet in majimas scrapbook; obviously the main character in his gooey tale.
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>>8685629
Speaking or Riko, which version of her you like more, the one from the game, or the one from OVA? IMO, her ingame version looks more mature and more resistant towards abuse.
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>>8686634
Like most fans i prefer the anime version of Riko-chan but I've lost GALLONS of semen to the visual novel version of Riko also. I believe Riko is only supposed to be 24 and childless so she actually looks a little older in the VN but the anime version nailed her appearance + age. Also anime version has a much more intoxicating and sexy voice actress by a decent amount than the VN riko.
I love them both a lot but Rikos anime version is considered one of the best character designs in all of hentai and I agree. I do Wish they would have done bigger gangbangs to anime riko-chan like they did VN riko.
Both great. Both have drained me dry countless times.
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>>8686634
Also anime version of Majima is significantly more powerful and stronger than the VN version of him. Anime version Majima damn near has super powers, VN he is a lot more human but still very mysterious. Bigger dick in anime version too and cums way more.
Both Majimas are good I like how the VN version likes to talk way more shit, but anime version Majima is a lot more iconic and memorable plus his synergy with riko is unmatched. She was made and crafted for his giant Buddha cock.
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>>8688050
Only if you can live with knowing your wife was once a sex cult cumdumpster, was throatfucked with toilet brush and used as public urinal by a bunch of delinquents (last 2 events took place in Cross Mix OVA).
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>>8694999
This is the #1 complain everyone has with RS, NOT enough Riko too much Anna. What they could have at least done during the credit roll was shown Majima and the gang putting riko into tons of different poses, wouldn't have even needed to be animated could have just been photos from Yamamoto to stay with the scrapbook theme like >>8668280
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>>8593040
Yeah the hentai became way too good and addictive in a country where birthrates are almost non existent. Hentai took a major nerf the subsequent following years and I think it is probably an attempt to recharge their births, can't have Japanese men wasting their jizz on perfect anime girls like riko or dark chocolate elves.
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So what is ultimately the fate of the characters in Rin x Sen + Ran - Sem Cross Mix?
Majima flat out says it in this scene and also Riko later tells Anna that if they don't get out, they'll all be killed?
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>>8699388
Knowing Majima he 1,000% knew Riko-chan was listening on the other side of the door (remember he has cameras following Riko everywhere she goes thats his #1 prized possession) and said that on purpose to get Riko to go and try to "save" Anna from the academy. All that Just so the principal could also experience "breaking" the Idol Sisters himself with his students which is exactly what he gets at the end. Remember Majima is a master manipulator. Also that "fate" is only for girls that the members get "tired" of. Cross Mix takes place like 3 or 4 years after Ran Sem you would think Riko would have noticed missing girls also Sakaki sensei is still there too and was there even way before Riko and Anna so they obviously haven't tired of Sakaki yet. Majima is extremely infatuated with Riko (you see in cross mix he kinda keeps riko to himself) and considers her the "ultimate perfect vessel" for his 'holy releases' and keeping Anna around is a very easy way to control Riko-chan his favorite sex toy doll. Basically I don't see a sex Buddha wasting literally the best highest quality pussy in his universe after he spent god knows how much money time and favors to capture her in the fist place.
So basically it was a bluff so that the principal could have some fun. The point was to try to get the students back in class kek.
From a business point Suzuki Mirano wouldn't kill off their mascot and fan favorite Riko, she's also supposed to be the #1 beauty in the SM Universe too so I'm assuming Riko is safe and sound and only getting drowned in rich old man semen. Cross mix was more of a cash grab than legitimate sequel anyway.
In the actual original story riko gets fully mind broken and Majima literally declares Riko-chan as his "property for life!" I've l played the VN front to back countless times and never in any of the end paths does it involve slaying the girls just some stupid edgy shit the Bible black director wanted to add for the collab.
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Anna-chan bitch!!
Why does everyone dislike her??
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>>8702802
Because her desperation to overcome Riko in terms of fame lead to Riko becoming cult sex slave, only to save her sister from becoming cult sex slave (which in the end she still ended up).
I have no idea what the fuck I just said, long story short - Anna is a bitch and completely deserved the treatment she got.
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>>8702802
Say whatever you guys want about Anna but her basement scene is still one of the greatest animates h scenes ever. Would it have been hotter if they gave that scene to riko? Yes. But they didn't they gave it to Anna-chan and her big tits.
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The early 2000s were the best period.
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>>8716735
Kek this is so true. The peak stuff from the 90s was legendary though, but I agree with the earlier posters in this thread the Ran Sem/Kuroinu time period was definitely the crescendo.
Now we just wait until AI can surpass those two (it won't).
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>>8702951
But riko was always the main target/goal of the cult, you could argue it is Rikos fault that Anna is targeted by the sex cult to begin with! Maybe if riko didn't pick a job that involved teasing and tempting men with her perfect body none of this would have ever happened. Although there's still a chance Majimas spies would have scouted out a beauty like her.
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I'm not sure when I think hentai peaked but I do think that overall the Taimanin franchise has been a net negative. I miss the more whimsical sex adventures of the mid 2000s and earlier and not all of this "HYPER BAD END" for every girl nowadays.
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Imma highjack this thread to bump good shit i find. This one is from 2023
>Secret Mission Sennyuu Sousakan wa Zettai ni Makenai!
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>>8593040
What are the odds we ever get more episodes of Ran Sem? We still haven't seen Sakaki get buddha cock. And obviously the internet is CLEAELY always hungry for more Riko-chan, everyone was pretty pissed with how little screen time she received during cross mix despite being the main character of all Suzuki Mirano girls.
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>>8755245
It's been well over a decade since Cross Mix, so it might actually be less than zero.
Honestly, the quality of Suzuki Mirano (and Majin) has really tanked and I wouldn't want to see a continuation with their current standard anyway. I think the last thing I actually liked from them was Gakuen de Jikan yo Tomare (which was only a couple of years after but is ALSO a decade old now).
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If i ever see pic related, i immediately close the video.
Absolutely zero exceptions.
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>>8768957
And that is the absolute worst part about them. Not even that they have terrible animation and mediocre acting, but that they pick up licenses to series that should never have been handled by them. Denying them the glory they deserve for everyone to enjoy.
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>>8593040
Hey guys I made a quick little Ran Sem edit, tell me what you think:
https://files.catbox.moe/2calor.mp4
Should I make more versions?
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>>8593040
Majima is one LUCKY motherfucker..!! Most blessed anime character ever?? He literally gets to use pic related like his own personal flashlight.
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>>8785031
>Majima gets to eat and lick this from head to toe every single day, multiple times a day.
It's not fair..
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>>8593040
The hentai with the super model and her sister joining the rape cult was so fucking insanely good. Wish they would make more - it is one of the best pieces of erotica I have ever watched across all forms of porn: real and animated. Good stuff Japan. Shame porn will all be banned soon, but it is easy to see with high quality addictive stuff like this hentai
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>>8704542
I might be one of the few humans on Earth that prefers Anna-chan over Riko. Part of that is not only because of how sexy and cute she is, but also due to her broken, submissive personality, the pissing scene always makes me cum buckets, she makes for such a great toilet!
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>>8813113
Anna is insanely hot and cute and in pretty much any other hentai she would have been the main character, but she had to co-star with one of the most iconic characters to ever grace hentai and then right after riko it was the chocolate elves. xD
Anna's competition is literally ALL timers. These are the designs A.I. will copy for decades to cum. No shame in being an Anna fan.
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>>8813123
Majima was infatuated with Riko, but Keizou sure enjoyed the hell out of her, It's my headcannon that Anna was his #1, which makes him the most based character.
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>>8816950
Dude, what? That shit is the lowest common denominator slop you can find. If anything, they only kept doing them retardedly bigger and bigger every time. I'm glad we're past that era, desu; bring back that 90s balanced goodness.
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>>8629687
>Swing Out Sisters
I'm not even that into big sister stuff, like, there are at least 10 other genres I prefer, but I still think this is one of the hottest hentai ever produced, if not the hottest. Shit It's non-stop sex from start to finish, and never gets boring. On the contrary, each scene is better than the last, and the ending is the cherry on top.
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