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Thoughts on Fencer of Minerva? Personally, I liked it pretty well. Yeah, it's derivative of Gor and seems like it's not sure whether it wants to deconstruct fetishization of sex slavery or play it straight, but it's pretty hot and has a surprisingly strong plot and rounded characters.
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It's actually peak male dom. Women just realize they'd be happier as slaves, and FeMC who could be a princess is just like. 'Nah, Dominate, Degrade, Dick daddy.'
At the same time, she's into it, so kick it. It's not like Fernando, there's more than just capture, rape repeat. I don't think there's a female equivalent. But still, a plot heavy Femdom fantasy world with as much attention to detail as Fencer would be a fun watch.
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What makes Diana's decision to choose the life of a slave all the more remarkable is the fact that she notably isn't some wilting flower. She's consistently shown to be competent, intelligent, strong-willed, a good fighter... and yet she's perfectly happy to act as Sho's slave even when she becomes a literal queen.
Hell, she's technically not even an actual slave for most of the series. It's easy to miss, but Sho manumits her at the end of the second episode, so she's a free woman in the eyes of the law from that point forward. There was nothing forcing her to act as though she was owned by him, she elected to do so of her own accord because she enjoyed it and was in love with him. Really, when you stop and think about it, it's almost empowering and shows that you can be sexually submissive without being pathetic.
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>>8670336
Yeah. Just one line bugged me. Right at the end Some dude is like "You've inspired women all over the country to embrace being the slave of their man."
Like, I'm pretty sure some would be into it. Probably another good fraction that would be like "That bitch is crazy. If it was me or my man who was going to be wearing rags and a loin cloth at the end of the day, then that cloth would be swinging with dick and balls by sundown."
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>>8670336
I also like the revenge arc. Simple, to the point and satisfying.
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Anyone else like to imagine that Sho and Diana will have a shared harem? If they ever make a new installment, I'd love for it to open up with them going down to the slave market, buying themselves a new concubine, and introducing her to the other girls before they break her in.
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It's pretty much just a Gor novel
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One thing I always wondered is what happened to Diana's mother, Hilda.
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>>8671967
I'm sorry, are you talking about the coup where Sho's father died or his own coup against Diana's father? Because that wasn't true either way; Hilda was shown to still be alive twelve years after her family came to power, and Sho wanted to spare King Randis (the fact that he took his own life wasn't Sho's fault), so it's incredibly unlikely that he would've targeted her.
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>>8672467
God, if I weren't a poorfag, I'd commission some nice art of Diana as a MILF.
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I wish there was more fanart of this. It's a classic.
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Honestly, I would've loved to have been a fly on the wall for this hentai's production.
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>>8677382
I'd also like to understand why they made some of the creative decisions they did.
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I do have to wonder if the story would stand on its own if you cut out the smut. They were obviously trying to give the series a plot that wasn't just an excuse to facilitate the sex scenes, but how well did they succeed? Would people watch this if it wasn't a hentai?
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It's a shame we never saw her in this outfit again. It suited her.
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>>8680885
I think every part would work except the part where he ties up the bratty girl and sells her for a penny. The idea of making the penny into a necklace and having her wear it as a pendant was a pretty clever narrative touch, tho. That one bit of the story deserves a “you did better than porn” gold star.
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It definitely had its moments.
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>>8688555
Yeah. There were a number of things about FoM that were above standard quality, but they really gave this thing an ED that left an impression.
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I gotta wonder if there was any connection between this nameless woman from the first episode and Fina.
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Okay, show of hands, how many of you thought this guy was gay when you first watched the series?
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Underrated brat correction fetish fuel.
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This moment is such a comedic head-scratcher. She's tied to the bed and is like "Oh, my husband is coming! Hide!" Like, you can tell she's into it enough to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, at the same time she is really committed to her own monogamy (For his dick anyway, she is pussy flexible.)
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>>8670967
She eventually started embracing the idea, though.
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>>8695260
Maybe this is just deja vu, but I remember a podcast like that too.
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>>8704699
Zomia ONE Underground, maybe? They seem to have had multiple episodes discussing it.
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>>8700358
That's character development for ya.
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>>8718329
How so? I don't watch that.
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>>8728826
The sword and sorcery episode that looked like a second generation VHS rip with applied subtitles where stocking was turned into a dragon, Panty a barbarian warrior and the demon sisters turned into a double headed, double vulvad' dragon.
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>>8729304
Okay, but is there anything that connects to Fencer of Minerva specifically rather than just being a more general pastiche of vintage sword and sorcery anime?
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I wonder if anyone ever go this mixed up with Princess Minerva.
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What I find rather interesting is the fact that, while Diana definitely submits to Sho when it comes to their relationship, they're more like partners when it comes to dealing with the challenges they face.
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How similar is this to the Gor novels, actually?
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>>8752735
Right here:
https://muchohentai.com/series/fencer-of-minerva
You can find it raw, subbed, dubbed, and even in Spanish.
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>>8756382
I like how Diana, while submissive to Sho in sexual matters, is effectively his partner in everything else. It keeps her character consistent and avoids making her come across as a useless tagalong Sho has to babysit.
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That would certainly be an odd mix-up
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>>8772972
Who's the artist for this one?
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I really like the other blue haired girl too. Ulsra I think her name is. Comm also mine.
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>>8782286
https://x.com/DirtyEro
Have you seen them? They will send you a raw version of the image if you don't like the filter.
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>>8783636
I've thought about him. He's good, but I was wanting more than a simple imitation of style. There is a soul in these old anime(hentai included) that I want to see in my commissions. That takes someone with a passion for and an understanding of the works of these earlier periods. There's just something about older anime that can't be easily reproduced.
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>>8670222
I've been watching it and I am pleasantly surprised at how good the narrative is. It is basically a drama and action short series with sex and nudity. It also did the cool thing by showing slavery and slaveholding in a more positive manner.
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>>8779924
Isn't she suggested in-universe to be pretty buxom? I distinctly remember Patris being a bit jealous of her body in general and her breasts in particular.
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>>8670653
How do you think Diana would treat Sho's side pieces?
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How does this compare to the actual Gor books?
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>>8816234
I think we can infer from canon that they'd be more concerned with their pleasure than that. Sure, we can assume that they'd demand submission from their slaves, but they wouldn't be selfish about it.
Speaking of which, I wonder how a newly-purchased slave might react to see the Queen start referring to her husband as "master" when they were away from prying eyes.
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What did he mean by this?
No, seriously, what DID he mean by this? Were the writers trying to imply that he genuinely didn't understand that what he was doing was wrong?
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They meant he was a sadistic lunatic. Either he couldn't believe that his love would be rejected, and likely he isn't capable of love but perceives any donation of his affection as love because nobody deserves him, but he gives anyway, or he's just lying and trying to talk his way out of being killed.
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New Commission frome the talented DANMAKUMAN
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Working on uploading the rest of my collection on Danbooru for anyone interested. Enjoy!
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>>8670970
>Transman of Gor
I tried reading Tarnsman of Gor once. It was terrible. The beginning was just about the author's college professor self-insert (taught the same subject the author did IRL) getting abducted by aliens. Then he wakes up in this stone room with stone cubes for chairs (he spends a lot of time describing this). Then some barbarian guys walk in and the MC recognizes one of them as his long-lost father who was also abducted by aliens. The guy's dad then drops a massive info-dump about why the planet they're on is named Gor (short version: "It means Home Stone."), and about all the factions on Gor and that they were brought there to entertain some alien overlords or something. Never made it past that part so I never got to them riding around giant eagles or the sex slaves.
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I decided to read Captive of Gor instead, since all I was interested in was the sex slaves. This one was also awful. The beginning was all about this woman from 1970s Earth, told from her POV, except everything she says about herself was obviously written by some malding guy who thinks all women would be happier if they were sex slaves. She's basically like "I was a shallow bitch and loved to tease men and then not give them anything." Of course she gets abducted by aliens and forced to be a sex slave on Gor where she has to work for a higher ranking sex slave who is mean to her or something. She has to go pick berries or something while all the barbarian guys go out on their giant eagles. When the barbarians come home they pick the slaves they want to fuck and she never gets picked. Internally she's telling herself how she is the great Ellinor Brinton and she's better than all these dumb bimbos but also she secretly wants to be railed by a giant barbarian guy.
One day she steals berries from another girl's basket and eats them, but she gets caught and gets whipped in front of all the barbarian guys. She gets whipped for so long she vomits all over herself and passes out. Then she's punished by having to live in a hot metal box out in the field, that has an opening for food and that's it. She just lives in darkness with the smell of her own shit and piss and vomit while she thinks to herself about the philosophy of being a sex slave.
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After she eventually gets freed she gets picked to do some sexy dance in front of the barbarian guys one day. Basically they just wear slutty makeup, and no clothes except some fucking stupid jungle bells on their ankles. John Norman obviously thinks jingle bells are the most erotic thing in the world, and Ellinor keeps thinking to herself "I've been belled!" over and over. There are also a million times where the higher ranking sex slave girl who is her boss keeps saying every variation of "You will be belled" and so on.
The time comes to do the slut dance but she gets too embarrassed. All the other sex slaves think she's a loser for not doing the slut dance. She does decide to do the dance and gets extremely turned on. Then one of the barbarian guys wants her to go to him room. She goes to his room and they have a long, boring conversation about how on Earth men and women live false lives and on Gor they can be their true selves: the men fighting endless barbarian wars and the women staying home to pick berries, clean, do the slut dance with jingle bells on their ankles, and get raped by big muscley barbarian guys. The chapter ends right as they're about to fuck and the next chapter timeskips to later. John Norman doesn't actually get turned on by sex slaves getting raped, only by philosophical discussions about how women are naturally ordained to be sex slaves. Once the actual sex slave rape starts, he gets bored. At this point I stopped reading.
The other thing about about Gor besides the bad story is the bad prose. John Norman has this bizarre understanding of the English language. His favorite thing is to start sentences with "too," instead of "also," so you'll constantly have to read sentences like "Too, that is the way of women on Gor." He does this sometimes multiple times on the same page, it's that regular of a thing he does.
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>>8830514
You're doing God's work. Thanks for sharing!
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