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>>8839657
I've become addicted to takuran, I push every artist that makes cuckold content towards it

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>>8839658
*creator

>>8839139
Well that's because for them NTS doesn't actually exist. It's Netorare, Netorase, Netori, BSS, or whatever specific name.

The broad spectrum of jealousy-focused porn works is called "NTR".
it's us here in the west who decided that NTR strictly meant Netorare and use the acronym NTS as an equivalent.

>>8839669
NTS is obviously a contraction of netorase. No one is under the confusion that it means something else. But netorase for them maybe means something more ambiguous than what it's come to mean everywhere else. I've definitely seen the term used to discretely classify these kinds of works in places like NTRblog, Akibablog, etc, and the tag being added to dlsite is further proof of it taking hold. It's just strange it's taken so long, and is still so miscategorized.

Sometimes the term 貸し出し will be used in the marketing of these works, meaning lending, and I think it's a rather decent descriptor of the genre. At least insofar as some of these stories tend to go, that describes it well. The term netorase taken literally, meaning to let your partner be stolen, feels like a misnomer for these stories and could be part of the reason why it's taken it so long for it to take hold there.

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I was following this story in a cope filled haze that it would actually be a ntr to pure love story at some point because the author said it would be. Nope, the fucker lied. So if you like ntr->nts then here's two routes from the same story. 褐色ボーイッシュな幼馴染 is the name by 雨之.. There's just two problem. You have to support the author on fanbox because to my knowledge his artwork isn't uploaded past a certain point on the usual suspects (ex/e-hentai) and Kemono hasn't uploaded his page in forever. The second problem is that lot of context can be missed since this is a text based story with visual aids. My pic example isn't a foursome swinging, it's the cuck wanting to see his wife get fucked by the ugly bastard and he used the foursome as an excuse to see it happen, then the swinging gets thrown away to focus exclusively on the nts. It's also route 1, route 2 isn't done yet, but it's following the same footsteps.

>>8839657
>>8839658
Source? Looks hot

>>8839520
>>8839522
Really like his stuff, i was hoping someone would share on kemono but now he put on discord so i guess i won't be able to see too soon

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Nebelxisters were right, their game is a kamige.

I kneel.

NTS silhouette is hot.

The Wife Lenders series would be better if the husband was more involved like if the majority of the sex shown was the recording for him.

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finale in summer comiket, Hope it ends well

>>8840044
I hope for more anal

>>8840044
It can't end well; part 2 already ruined it.

>>8840044
This is dogshit. Hope it ends in NTR so it can't be posted here anymore

>>8839841
Yeah, it's rare for a game to live up to the hype. I wish I could forget everything so I could experience it again in all its glory. Now I'm in a mostly fruitless hunt for similar games.

There are some recurring talks about modding in more events, activities and ambiguity but sadly these efforts seemingly fizzle out, even though now we can make make pretty darn serviceable CGs with AI.
BBQ should release a DLC with an expanded city, locations, activities and events. Maybe a new ending, but the endings are pretty much perfect already.

Does anyone have the links for the new From Wife to Wench update? It's not showing up on Kemono.

fans have been revolting against blurring the walls lately

>>8840465
Let me guess? Still no plot progression and massive time between updates?

>>8840467
he just released an update today, but I haven't tried it yet. The releases are generally good IMO, but he gets lost in the sauce way too easy

>>8840465
It's been like that since he refused to add an optional BBC bull. Perhaps now he'll rethink it, would've saved a lot of trouble if he just gave in to them.

>>8840797
Black bulls are goated because of skin contrast, living dildos vibes and 0% chance of NTR. White bulls are for gay cucks into losing their spouse to actual superior men

>>8840797
nearly all the complaints I've seen have been about scheduling, this is BBClover cope

>>8839841
Midway trough it.
So far I like the content but the gameplay part is kind of a slog

>>8841119
You'll likely miss the slog later on.

When it comes to games in the genre the majority have much worse slog and content pacing without any of the upsides of Nebel.

>>8840801
This. It's by far the best dynamic. The people that hate on it just don't understand that. Or they're the ones into the Li's falling in love with the bulls and leaving the mc, fundamentally not understanding NTS in the first place.

>>8841119
Glad you're liking it. Nebel is an absolute gem for those who like plot, struggle and ambiguity.

I personally didn't find the exorcism as bad as many claim. It's okay to be defeated and retreat a few times. Probably even expected.
With New Game+ you're going to breeze through the dungeons and start missing the struggle and tension you were having with Kana.

Considering the amount of people with short attention spans drooling over WEG trash it's really hard to take reviews on places like F95 seriously. The recommendations are all over the place too. After digging through the trash I've only managed to find a single game similar enough to scratch that Nebel itch.

>>8841138
Niggers are bestiality and belong to /d/

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>>8841142
>Rpgm dogshit
Kill yourself autist.

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>>8841147
>Ren'Py niggerslop
Kill yourself subhuman

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>>8841150
I didn't say anything about renpy you tranny faggot, now kill yourself

>>8841142
>niggers are beastiality
That's kinda the point for a lot of us. Essentially real life orcs

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Friendly reminder eating a BBC nut out of your wife is the ultimate form of femdom + humiliation

>>8841181
>maledom bibisi
this is the opposite of femdom but ok

>>8841193
Wrong

>>8841232
>a man dominating your woman
how is that femdom nigga

>>8841233
Irrelevant. The woman is dominating her cuck regardless of what the bull is doing to her

>>8841234
>The woman is dominating her cuck
>cuck eating a BBC nut
It's the man that is dominating the cuck, you said that yourself

I wish we get a new momson NTS. Specifically the hotwifing kind.

>>8841242
Wrong. If the woman uses her cuck's face as seat while he eats the BBC nut it's femdom. Stop being braindead

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>>8841257
You like the idea of the male bull dominating the couple. It's simple dude, stop with the mental gymnastics.

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posting real femdom

>>8841266
>>8841257

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>>8839735
This guy draws a peak tomboy, but the story is kind of weird and he likes feet a little bit too much.

>to my knowledge his artwork isn't uploaded past a certain point on the usual suspects (ex/e-hentai) and Kemono hasn't uploaded his page in forever
Sounds like a problem you could fix.

>>8841271
I like the chastity implication. Most seem to put it on the guy, but I guess it works on the girl just as well.

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寝取らせ温泉旅行 ~彼氏の傍で出会ったばかりの他人棒にイキ狂い~
TRYSET Break

>>8841720
Wtf is that autonomy

>>8841784
AIslop like usual

>>8841786
That is not a mark of AI. It's just not great art.

fuck why bbc so good with white wifes why we love it so much friends

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>>8842067
Color contrast + living dildo + 0% chance of NTR

>>8842067
Contrast, savagery, and taboo all wrapped up into a (very) nice "package" for the girl.

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>>8841584
>This guy draws a peak tomboy, but the story is kind of weird and he likes feet a little bit too much.
Agreed and I have a foot fetish so it's not a deal breaker for me. The story being weird is that at first it was just a bunch of loosely connected pictures around the same three people and ntr. My guess on why the change is that enough people voiced enough opinion and commissioned art of a "pure love" between the childhood cuck (small dick bad at sex loser mc) and the childhood slut (the tomboy) and so he started working towards that. The problem is, he clearly doesn't want to stop drawing his bull, so he decided to make two routes. One where his bull stole the childhood slut and then does nts play with the childhood cuck's wife. And a "pure love" route, except the childhood cuck is still bad at sex and a cuck that hasn't admitted it yet, and the childhood slut can't get any sexual satisfaction from her limp dick "bf" and she has to make due on her own. Pic is the only time since the "pure love" route started that the childhood cuck has given the childhood slut a tingle of pleasure, and that has nothing to do with him, but because the slut is an exhibitionist, and the cuck came hands free because an old man is looking at his "gf.

>Sounds like a problem you could fix.
Fixed it ages ago. It's how i'm getting these pic

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Broken Sky updated! Was it worth the wait?

>>8842318
>furry
no

>>8842175
Me at the floor

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>>8842318
>one year for this shit
Just kill me now, bro.

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Gorilla loving anon here... Demo is almost ready but figuring out RenPy is taking me longer than I expected cause I'm a retard.
But if I had used rpgm I would've gone crazy with alternate routes, enemies and shit, still I slapped together some "combat" animations that resemble rpgm as a tribute, gimme like a week to have it ready.

>>8842318
how much lily nts has been added?

>>8842412
holy ORCED gorilla goddess

>>8842412
Obviously it's your character so write her however you want but I will restate in this thread that I think we've seen enough femdom heroines in this genre. It would be a breath of fresh air if the wife would instead exclusively show a gentle romantic submissive side to the bull during the session, and if there are any maso proddings it should be the bull domming the husband.

>>8842435
That sounds really gay.

>>8842440
you pretty much summed up half the posts here

>>8842435
Holy mother of gay.
I'm personally into many things like cum-swapping and the husband helping out the wife a bit with oral, but even that is too much for me.
When you start presenting the bull and anything more that a meat dildo is when you lose me. The bull is there only for the couple's pleasure.
So, either the wife does the humiliation, or it's strictly kept as a lovey-dovey cuckold couple without any sort of humiliation, but rarely (if ever) the bull doing it.

>>8842435
Ignore this retard

>>8842435
I agree we need more variety, but he's said she's the gorilla woman archetype so femdom makes too much sense.

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>>8842482
Ugh, those ugly bastards make me sick. I don't wanna look at this vile shit while jerking off.

>>8842563
ayo dis nigga be jerkin it to men lmao!

>>8842563
Lmao cocksucker

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we need more size comparison in NTS

>>8842885
I don't like the idea that every cuck is just too small to satisfy his girl and needs to whore her out to a dude with a massive dick. It's dumb. Like, are we to believe that the only people interested in netorase are small dicked guys? Boring.

>>8842914
it's unironically not that deep for me and the dick doesn't need to be small, I just like the girl enjoying a bigger dick while still being loyal to her bf

>>8842414
None. There are 5 new scenes:
1. You grope the female leader of the fighting faction (dominant).
2. You blow the male leader of the slaver faction (submissive). If Lilly is in the party, she notices when she kisses you; she is mad at you for sucking off the guy that's trying to slave her people but also finds it hot.
3. You rape the dev's wife, and she murders Lilly and uses her severed head to give you a BJ before casting you off into an infinite torture dimension. Bad end.
4. You fuck a snake woman. If Lilly is in the party, she joins in. This is a reward for winning at combat.
5. The snake woman fucks you, then eats Lilly, then eats you. This is a penalty for failing at combat. Bad end.

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>wife lenders ~ after
Oh shit

>>8842482
>>8843152
Mayu is so fucking hot. Too bad the artist skipped her anal training.

>>8842914
I think it's more like small dicked guys have a higher likelihood of being into NTS than it is all guys into NTS have small dicks. It's just a natural idea that if someone has a small dick, they can't satisfy a woman and need another man to.

I do wish there was more content where the cuck has a normal sized dick because the fantasy for me is like what >>8842941 describes. I personally have a larger than average dick, so having a size comparison between one that's average or a bit larger vs a 10 incher is perfect. For me it's like I know I can make a good home-cooked meal (pleasing a woman and getting her off) but it's nice to go out to a fancy restaurant or good BBQ joint every once in a while (watch her struggle to blow him, get stretched out to the max and lose her mind on his cock, moan and cry like a banshee when she's only a little vocal with me, etc.).

>>8843152
Is it out yet?

>>8843281
Only the preview

>>8842914
My dick is 6.5 so I'm doing pretty well above average. But I'm White and pretty sure that every Black dude is packing at least 8-9 inches on average. So that's why I'm into it with this and irl with my wife

Which Waifu archetype is your favorite for NTS? Not a game idea post just kinda curious.

Mine personally is either a Gyaru or just more slutty Waifu in general like in https://vndb.org/v30599. I really like the idea of the heroine being more sexually experienced and being the one the guide their partner through their fetish. Honestly also feel like they would just be more loyal in general.

>>8843555
Kuudere. She only breaks by the bull's cock. She loves her husband but finds his fetish disgusting. She does it cause she feels responsible for him.

>>8843263
>it's more like small dicked guys have a higher likelihood of being into NTS than it is all guys into NTS have small dicks.
This feels reductionist. I bet if there were actual numbers there would be no correlation to being who want to be cucked against the size of their schlong. It ignores the simple truth that fetishes are handed out to people by their minds like booster packs
t. hung cuck

Why it's always negros? Cuckery is one thing, but race play and race traitor shit is a massive turn off for me.

>>8843606
Race play (or Bnwo) isn't necessary with a black bull. There are other reasons that are already mentioned.

>>8843606
>why is the race with the stereotypes of being savages and having big dicks so prominent in this masochistic fetish?
think about it for a few seconds and I'm sure you'll figure it out

>>8843555
Gyaru or outgoing characters. Character like Anri from https://vndb.org/v33204 is perfect

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>>8843652
Same i like gyaru for NTS, but since Marina is still my favorite NTS heroine, MILF or married heroine is a must for NTS. Gosh, i miss Marina

GF NTS sometimes hit or miss for me. I think as long heroine has ability to tease protagonist, she is perfect for NTS.

>>8843689
I actually haven't tried Marina even though I liked the rest of atelier sakura's gyaru NTS. What do you think makes it stands out a lot? Might try reading it tonight

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>>8843691
Her personality, she is combination of MILF, Onee-san, and bit tomboyish woman. Also unlike other Atelier Sakura girl, Marina was stand out because Onboro gave more details about her past, relationship with protagonist and their daughter, and her preference on sex. Even before she got her spinoff and sequel, player already knows about her past relationship doing papakatsu with her Ojisama (i actually knows about this from Japanese wikipedia article of Marina trilogy haha).

Personally for me, Mariko was better teaser than Marina, but since Marina more lovey-dovey and active with her husband, Kenji, the NTS part more arousing. Oh also, bonus point, she luckily got perfect seiyuu for her voice, Kobato Riku.

>>8843696
>Mariko was better teaser than Marina
Who's Mariko again? I forgot

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>>8843706
Heroine of this game https://vndb.org/v10078 . It's not like i don't like her, but unlike Marina, Mariko's husband didn't started with begging her to do NTS.

Mariko secretly having affair with her superior, and then she got questioned by her husband when she lying, and when she realize her husband was aroused by her cheating confession, she tease him until he was begging her to cheat on him.

Mariko's personality to "weird' for me, in the sequel, when she fund her husband tired with their usual sex life, she jokingly said about doing scatology play . Even her husband was shocked with her sense of humor.

>>8843394
Don't get your hopes up for reality to end up like your fantasies. Black guys have a 2mm advantage to white guys on average. That's why there's a handful of black porn actors and a small group of dudes in all of the IRL BBC cuckold videos. BBCs do exist, they just aren't the norm.

>>8843555
Shy busty loyal wife is still the goat for me. Bokudaka's Yoshino is a great example. The slow arc of acceptance just clicks perfectly with this fetish narratively, and it works great for dom dynamics, which are my jam.

>>8843709
Oh, I actually haven't read this because it looks like NTR into NTS from the description which isn't really my thing. Is it any good?

>>8843555
Tanned tomboy who loves to femdom you and voluntarily wears the pants in the relationship but still needs to satisfy her feminine urges every once in a while; that's what the bull is for.

>>8843718
It becomes good NTS if you really enjoy the teasing aspect, but it DOES start out as NTR, which is one of the reasons I'm not huge on it (not that anon btw)
>>8843555
I like someone that's a bit dominant and teasing, but still loves the husband wholeheartedly. Gal Kano's a good JP example, but surprisingly I find that Westoids tend to write what I'm looking for better, in that Ammie from VR and Ayumi from Blurring the Walls (despite the glacial pace of updates) are very much in the center of my strike zone

>>8843579
It may be reductionist, but you can't deny that there is an over abundance of small cock cucks in NTS and NTR hentai. So either the illustrators are making content that is accurate, that fans like and are requesting or there are a lot of dudes into the fetish that don't have smaller dicks but still are fine with or enjoy the small dick content.

I guess you could argue that the small penis NTS/NTR content is getting made regardless and isn't actually popular, but I feel like that mindset doesn't have a basis in reality.

I don't want a micro-dicked cuck nor a hung one. Average is best

>>8843731
I like it when the wife teases the husband about his size and/or prowess, but I also think it's best when it doesn't go too far and/or is only to excite the cuck. It's best if he can still make her happy in bed and otherwise, and the teasing is just for spice

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>>8843717
Agree, Yoshino from Bokudaka is a good NTS heroine example. I just wish Bokudaka only focused on one guy instead. I don't like her gangbang route
.>>8843718 like >>8843726 said, it's started with mystery NTR but ended out as NTS. but yeah i understand your concern. The second game was full NTS tho.

I also suspicious Aiko from lustful wife Aiko by Fallen Eros was inspired by both Marina and Mariko

>>8843734
I haven't even bothered trying to find Aiko anywhere because my understanding was that it was just NTR. Is that wrong? Though you are right that when I first saw her design I was like "Oh that's just thicker Marina"

>>8843738
Yeah i think Aiko is NTR. If you don't like NTR, i won't recommend it too. Also the game update is slow haha.

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>>8843732
Agreed. The bull needs to be obviously bigger and better but that doesn't mean the cuck is useless at sex. Also I wanna self insert so I hate micro or huge dicked cucks

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>>8843734
>>8843741
Is it really NTR? The previews in f95 makes it look like NTS

>>8843741
It's a shame because I actually find shota NTS pretty hot (wife/gf initiating a young boy with endless sex drive, etc) and Indecent Wife Hana was/is strong on that front. There's also that one NTS Hikagemon doujin that is fire for it.

My real favorite is mom/son NTS but that's rare as shit so I generally don't get my hopes up for it
>>8843748
That was just my understanding. I haven't tried to play it for that reason, but I could be wrong

I thought the main reason to avoid Aiko was because the dev is a turbojew who adds DRM to fucking porn games.

>>8843748
It's closer to mystery NTR, basically player found Aika doing suspicious activity and there's a rumour about her having sex with other man. No NTS part where player ask her to cheating on him so far.

>>8843755
The slow update is the big turn off for me haha, and the developer wasn't even finished with Indecent Wife Hana. I wish they complete development of that game first before take another project.

Speaking of gyaru NTS, has anyone ever played RJ432231? The art looks pretty amateur but I heard good things about it from /hgg2d/. Curious on what you guys think about it

>>8843734
Yeah the Dojima route is the only one I like, but it's so meaty that I'm okay with it.

>>8843779
Oh yeah, the artwork maybe wasn't the best, the story was pretty hot. It's short and linear so you don't need to spend long time to play it. The game endings was one of my favorite NTS ending
>>8843781
The drama CD with Dojima was pretty good too

>>8843799
Source?

>>8843689
>>8843696
I hate the Fantia extras. I don't even consider them canon. Just blatant attempts to promote their Fantia page (which was complete ass don't ask me how I know) and ruins dynamic in some of the the mainline stories if canon

>>8843804
That's why Onborozuki leave the company.

>>8843799
Me on the right!

>>8842885
Wanna get cruelly cucked by Miyako

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Saiaku is cooking hard and my cuck dick can't wait

>>8842412
Just wondering, is the Gorilla going to be hooking up with a bunch of bulls or just the orc? Would be hot if it were the Gorilla inviting the orc into the party and then her bed with or without the MC getting a say

I didn't realize yuuhoku didn't make any new works for two years, damn...

>>8843785
Is the drama cd available anywhere? IIRC I've tried looking for it with no success.

>>8843966
Iu sed to have it on my PC before i lost it, it was on 寝取ラレ寝取ラセ欲ばりセット. I dont remember how the heck i got it.

>>8843917
desu I'm not a big fan of caging. It leans a bit hard dom for my tastes

>>8843961
He stopped being good much longer ago. Shota trash isn't hot.

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>>8843152
Fucking based, I hoped he would do an after story with fully trained Mayu
She's such a perfect whore wife

>>8843959
why do ntrpigs always have to shit up these threads

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>>8839516
I need more Hentai of Jane Doe normal, NTR, NTS, or Femdom I'm totally hooked on her, I want to be her cock slave

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>>8839516
Wait. If Android fuck bots become a thing is it cheating or Netorase to buy an AI fuckbot to rail your wife while you watch???

>>8839516
I just want a BBC bull to impregnate my waifu and then I use his freshly released creampie as lube while I desperately fuck her in a futile attempt to make sure the baby is mine, all while she lovingly teases me that I’ll never reach as deep as he did and to just give up and take her shopping for baby clothes and supplies.

Is that too much to ask for?

>>8843743
>The bull needs to be obviously bigger
Underrated trope is when the bull has a smaller dick but somehow still has a degree of sexual chemistry with your wife/gf that you can't compete, even though your dick is bigger.

>>8844464
No offense but can you even call this a trope when it's practically nonexistent in almost all porn media?

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NTS is still relatively new as its own genre so I'm sure down the line we'd get more unique plotlines and better-developed tropes. I do wonder if authors spend enough time consuming erotic literature when they break out to do their own projects because from what keeps getting posted here it feels like too many authors have sameplot syndrome.

It's also been discussed over in the NTR general how at its core, the cheating genre feels quite doompilled when it comes to women. Too often we see NTS leads just immediately succumb to a bigger dick because to the male brain, big dick automatically equals what women want. I feel like there's a whole other side of the fetish that feels underexplored particularly when it comes to the "I want to see my wife get pleasured by another man" aspect of it. Most setups have either the wife or bull be omniscient sexgods who can just mount a stranger perfectly, and somehow everyone is compatible with how the situation is arranged, and for just oneshot porn stories that should be fine for a quick fap but it does seem like we have plenty of authors here who want to do something more than just quick porn.

We rarely see an exploration of how a couple navigates breaking the conventional norm of monogamy, what that means for the relationship moving forward, how their daily life is affected by it. We only see these concepts as punchlines. The only recent work that comes to mind as unique is Sexting my GF where you can choose to be hard gay with the bull and go for a bisexual polycule. I feel like these types of scenarios happen more often in real life and are still prime real estate for stories here, we've seen wives get turned out by bigger and more cocks but at some point that gets repetitive. Where are the sissification angles? Where are the bull and wife going on romantic non-sexual dates? Where are the stories where the bull and wife become the on-paper public couple with the former husband cuck being a voyeuristic pseudo sex slave?

>>8844481
Unfortunately this fetish will never evolve that far because no fetish has evolved that far. Every porn genre can be called out for lazy setups and plots outside of the rare gems that pop up every now and then.
>Where are the sissification angles? Where are the bull and wife going on romantic non-sexual dates? Where are the stories where the bull and wife become the on-paper public couple with the former husband cuck being a voyeuristic pseudo sex slave?
These are going to get you pushback here from the resident spergs, but I agree. I'm not into sissification but the idea of the bull and heroine having some kind of friendly relationship on top of the sex would be kino. Yumi could have been this but NT00 kept Jin as a retarded horny monkey to the end which was a mistake imo.

>>8844481
>Where are the sissification angles? Where are the bull and wife going on romantic non-sexual dates? Where are the stories where the bull and wife become the on-paper public couple with the former husband cuck being a voyeuristic pseudo sex slave?
I don't want any of these though, basically proving the point of the anon above me

>>8844410
I've fantasized about the idea of being able to buy a BBC Android for my wife in the future. And no it's not cheating, unless you for whatever reason consider sex dolls as cheating.

>>8844481
>Where are the sissification angles?
That happens, just not often
>Where are the bull and wife going on romantic non-sexual dates? Where are the stories where the bull and wife become the on-paper public couple with the former husband cuck being a voyeuristic pseudo sex slave?
Now you just want ntr. And the reason why this gets so much push back is because it's basically every ntr plot with or without the nts excus trying to "change" the formula. Also what you want will never happen. It's porn first and formost, no one cares about these cardboard cuts "daily lives", because they're drawings, they don't have daily lives. And doujins have a limited amount of pages to begin with, why waste that on a pair tags watching tv, when you could draw those pair of tags doing porn. The only time daily lives ever pop up is to show the bull interrupting something (dates, normal home safety) or to show off the bull while the cuck looks worse in comparison. Even series doujin and vms don't care to show daily lives because no one wants to see that.

>>8844554
NTA but I disagree people don't want plot. I think boosting the couple's home and romantic life can really boost an NTS work's emotion and sexual payoff. The more you connect to them and work toward a solid progression, the heavier each milestone is gonna hit. Obviously this only applies to longer form mediums like VNs though.

>>8844481
why do you insist on always posting this dumb shit in almost every thread? nobody wants your ntr.

>>8844481
>Where are the stories where the bull and wife become the on-paper public couple with the former husband cuck being a voyeuristic pseudo sex slave?
You can find them all in NTR stories, retard

>>8844566
You missed the limited part didn't you? You don't have time nor pages to flesh out the cardboard cut out tags because to do so properly requires far more effort than is allowed.
>Obviously this only applies to longer form mediums like VNs though.
You still missed the limited part even in regard to vn. Time is still something you can't waste trying to flesh out the cardboard cut outs because people expect porn sooner rather than later, and if they want fleshed out characters in a vn, then they sure as hell not playing a porn vn simply because non porn vns are better for that. There's a reason why small dick loser wants asshole big dick bull to fuck the slut called a wife is the plot for damn near every nts. It sets up the setting without wasting any time and pages, it gets to the porn as fast as possible. And you can focus on the actual money maker, which is the female design and artwork for the scenes with the remaining pages and time.

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>>8844407
Wise is so lucky. He gets to have a wife fully in love with me who smugly cucks him to the brink of NTR, and just as she's about to cross the line she pampers him with loving reclaiming sex. And the best part is he gets to cum inside while he rewatches her sex tape where she acts as if the bull is her real man. An ejaculation full of desperation, jealousy and urge of reclamation...
>>8844441
You need to feast on her BBC creampied pussy first. A delicious meal that prevents impregnation and promotes your chances of impregging her yourself.

>>8843152
>>8843319
any samples on FANZA? does anyone have an access to check?

>>8844496
>bull and heroine having some kind of friendly relationship on top of the sex would be kino.
That would sound awesome, they could be friends, respect each other and even the cuck (or stag since I hate cucks and prefer hotwifing). Basically wife/mom having friends with benefits. Or swinging couples can be friends with each other.

>>8844496
i like how you decided to interpret romantic dates as 'friendly'.
why are you ntrpigs so retarded and so insistent on forcing your shit into nts?
>>8844787
>respect...and even the cuck
wow, a woman actually respecting her loved one, what a novel concept.

>>8844699
I disagree entirely. It does not take that many pages to flesh out the couple. Sex scenes tend to go on way too long, and if you chopped off a third or half and instead put that towards character development you'd have an insane boost to how hot the scenes are. This claim that people don't care about the story is nonsensical, in this fetish more than any other because plot makes this fetish. If you just care about the designs being good and the raunchy sex, you could go read literally any other porn. NTS is exciting because of the nuances of the arrangement. Skimping out on the story component in NTS is deliberately shooting your work in the foot.

Just to make in clear, I'm not saying you should add story that's unrelated to the NTS, like VR adding a whole mafia melodrama. I'm saying the couple's relationship is integral to the dynamic of the fetish and should be fleshed out, as well as the progression of the lending. Not just page 1, husband groveling on the floor, page 2-34 wife getting her insides blasted. That shit is the most boring NTS you can possibly do.

>>8844795
>ESL reading comprehension
Will you retards ever fuck off? Genuinely asking because you don't seem to know what ntr or nts is and yet you constantly shit up this thread with your insecure autism.

>>8844803
See, I'm in agreement here. Even though I'm part of the "rather not have any involvement with the bull outside sex for either party" (though I try to not be noisy about it), I do think laying the groundwork, escalating the tension and sex acts, showing how the experience impacts the couple's love life, etc, can elevate a story. I also think, however, that that's almost by definition additional work writing/drawing/whatever that can get hard to justify when you're trying to get a doujin out for the next comiket or get a patreon update out. It's a good ideal, I just don't think the most common "delivery systems" are well-suited for that kind of slow-burn delivery

I don't give a fucking shit about being friendly with the bull. Fuck my wife and fuck off, loser

>>8844850
based

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Do you prefer netorase ending with heroine pregnant with bull's baby or protagonist's baby?

>>8844815
>esl accusing others of being esl
>>8844850
basado

>>8845021
I think it's contextual with what kind of story is being told. NTS pregnancy for me is the logical conclusion of slow burn NTS with lots of setup for how the couple progressed in their relationship, the wife is doing the ultimate favor for the husband by being his personal pornstar and fucking other men, while the husband is doing the ultimate favor for the wife by allowing her to get bred by superior cocks and raising someone else's child as your own. After all why not go all the way and experience the namesake of the cuck fetish (the cuckoo bird brood parasitism)?

>>8845031
Ah yeah. BTW in japan there's subgenre for that brood parasitism, it's "takuran" (托卵). You can find some works on pixiv with that tag.

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>>8845021
I really enjoy takuran

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>>8845117

>>8844803
Anon you're not getting it, so lets do this instead. Remember the last "reluctant" wife you've read in any nts doujin. Remember how long it takes for her to agree getting her guts rearranged by the bull. 3 panels? 5 panels? Maybe half a page? Alright now lets talk about an actual reluctant wife. You first have to show her reaction to finding her husband wants her to sleep with someone else. obviously she's reacts negatively to the idea , and shuts it down on the spot. Now there's a slump in their marriage as the issue hangs over them until one of them breaks and actually talks about it. The wife, still reluctant would take multiple talks, reassurance that the husband still loves her, watch porn together, and something that is always glossed over in nts stories, bull screening and finding a man that the wife would be okay even have sex with in the first. Then come proper introductions and meetings between all those involved, before finally the reluctant wife says yes.

Now is that a better nts story? YES, I'm not disagreeing with that, you DON'T have time for that and you DON'T have the pages for it either. How many panels would you need to show an actual reluctant wife before she says yes for the porn to start. How many pages are wasted filled with panels that to most people are a waste of time because they're here for porn not a melodrama. 3-5 panels for a "reluctant" wife to say yes will always be better for porn.

>Sex scenes tend to go on way too long, and if you chopped off a third or half and instead put that towards character development you'd have an insane boost to how hot the scenes are.
You don't sacrifice the number 1 reason people are even looking at your glorified porn mag just so someone can get a shitty short term novella, when you can find actual novellas that do everything that doujin didn't have time nor restraints to do.

>>8845154
I concede that small manga is a poor format for telling stories that need proper buildup, but I think the state of things is so far in the bad direction that you don't need to do much to get good benefits. Right now a lot of doujins - with the husband doing the dogeza and begging for this thing out of the blue, cut to her meeting with the bull - make the couples seem completely frigid and loveless.

You could start in the middle of convincing stage, or just intersperse scenes with the bull with scenes with the husband. Have more of a balance where it feels like they actually have a love life.

You also don't need to have the entire arc in one chapter. If a doujin is successful it tends to get many sequels anyway, so why not dedicate chapter 1 to a chunk of the setup, make people salivate for the action to come, then slowly deliver? As opposed to blowing your load (poorly) in one chapter, and then not having much to escalate to. Yumeki Banana had Kaori being fucked by page 14, and then she gets blasted for another like 300 pages after that in various, increasingly boring ways because it's kinda been there, done that, and the relationship just seems to continue to sour. Imagine if she had actually paged the story properly, how much better it would be.

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>>8845117
>>8845120
>black cock
>housewife
this NTS combo will NEVER be topped, it's the bedrock of the fetish

>>8845117
>>8845120
Same, but i can't decidee which one is better, hidden from the spouse, or the husband willingly do takuran. Butakoma love hidden takuran genre , but it's all NTR https://exhentai.org/g/3207256/50df5195b1/

>>8845230
I wanna eat her BBC creampied pussy yummy

I went through the most recent Blurring the Walls update last night, and I'll say, the update schedule is dogwater, but it was still hot as fuck. Ayumi's 100% got the right kind of energy for me

Is there any stuff where even though the wife is very cruel and mean towards her husband, she's still genuinely fully in love with him, even if she has extremely romantic sex with the bull? The cuck may experience constant NTR angst, but for the wife there's 0% chance of that happening.

I want the wife and cuck to be lovey-dovey while the bull puts a baby in her. Stuff like handholding, kissing or cuddling. The cuck just watching and masturbating isn't enough for me.

>>8845352
I don't go for actual pregnancy/brood parasitism, but holding her hand or supporting her while the bull nuts inside while she moans and says how good it feels? kino

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>>8845352
>>8845366
Same, i like that part in NTS. But for some reason i think i see that situation on western NTS works more than Japanese NTS one. Japanese NTS works prefer , NTR report, video message, and cuck masturbate alone in the corner.

>>8845347
Kaya series by Terasu

>>8845414
nice try, faggot

>>8845394
FC2-PPV-2426934 is a JAV that has essentially my exact desired scene

There are NTS stories with moms??

>>8845447
there are a handful

https://exhentai.org/g/3680285/36c96bf8d2/
https://exhentai.org/g/3032864/f49d5dab3c/
https://exhentai.org/g/2928453/63e92e3ba1/

it's a rare as rocking horse shit genre so take what you can get

>>8845230
Hot as fuck pic.
>>8845347
Can you elucidate further? I think I might understand but it does seem kind of like a cheap scenario.

>>8845454
Thanks mate

>>8845454
Care to share the names, none of the links is opening for me

>>8845459
I don't claim that that's an exhaustive list, that's just what I've got on ex. I know that the whole genre's rare as shit though, so I treasure each and every one cuz mom NTS is like...my platonic ideal of NTS
>>8845494
Family Matters by 5t
Chichioya Kounin! Hasegawa-san Chi no Oyako Kankei by Haitoku Sensei
Chichioya Kounin! Hasegawa-san Chi no Oyako Kankei ~Fuufu no Shinshitsu Nakadashi Hen~ by Haitoku Sensei

>>8845509
First one is amazing, wish it was more common than mom ntr

>>8845347
I don't know about the cruel part, but this sounds like NTLabo stuffs

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>>8845347
the classic

>>8839536
Souce?

>>8845447
>>8845454
Looks like I choose a good time to pop by. One of my favorite NTS stories just happens to be Mom NTS.
https://exhentai.org/g/2353498/4287ebec3d/

I really love this artist's stuff. Fair warning though, most of their work is NTR. BUT, most of it is netori, so personally, I find it more enjoyable.

>>8844466
>practically nonexistent
incorrect, appears in plenty of erotic lit

>>8845900
Really? Do you have some examples?

>>8839658
>>8840001
>>8840044

I hate all of your guys retarded obsession with black men, but nothing genuinely turns me on more than the thought of breeding another man's woman.

>>8846270
Shut up retarded virgin cuck, you'll never be a bull

>>8846284
To try and fail is better to wonder and never know.

>>8846287
Do you have a bwc or bbc at least?

>>8846298
Average length, slightly below average girth. White as printer painter.

I know what I'm signing up for, I choose to die standing.

>>8846304
Well there are some gay cucks who love white men here so you better be handsome or it's OWARI for you

>>8846356
I'd say I'm more than decent. The hope was more personality, confidence, and skills in bed to carry me.

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>>8845230
just can't beat it

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>>8846537

>>8843555
Yandere, they're doing it to please their man and will always come back to him no matter how good the bull is.

>>8846537
I would fuck her pregnant belly every day and drink her milk while she repeated whispers lovingly in my ear it isn't my kid

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I uninstalled starrail ages ago, but I'm grateful for firefly's design she is just meant for ntr/nts in general

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>>8846945
The new silver wolf might make me install again. That brat is built for cucking me with bbc

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>>8846945
I can't get enough

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>>8846945
Based

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This fetish is like a brain worm.

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Hey, so I have an issue with my gorilla woman game
I think I got enough stuff to drop an alpha here in the thread but going back to >>8832630 and seeing how I started this shit over a month ago and I have so little content is making me want to kms, it's a single nts blowjob scene, no one can even fap to that...
What should I do? Compile what I have and send it now so I can get feedback?
Or keep at it for another month so I can show something more presentable with the story intro finished?

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>>8847278

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>>8847279

>>8847262
bro don't worry just put it together, add a patreon button, and let life take you where it will

>>8847285
ok, I'll have to fix some typos and shit before releasing it to the outside world
for the niggas here only:
>https://rentry.org/eoc73yu4

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>>8847262
it's a demo not a completed project. 1 scene is fine if it's mostly about introducing the story

>>8847256
The Mayumi series is such dogshit. Decent art by Nagayori but my god the writing in it is ass, especially at the start of 2.

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>>8847332

>>8839516
What’s with the interracial spam? That’s not inherently part of cuckold.

>>8845230
>>8845251
>>8846537
>>8846538
Not even close. Worst pairing there is and destroys the fetish. Neither me nor the wife want to even smell a black within 50 feet of us.

>>8846270
I thought the appeal was being the bully, really didn't think people got off being the cuckold. fucking yikes

Are there any NTS games coming out this month or next month?

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>>8847446
This month? my shitty demo >>8847289 try it and tell me how shit it is
Does it even run btw? I see 7 of you fucks downloaded it

>>8847382
Even your imaginary wife fucks one behind your back on the daily lool

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https://exhentai.org/g/3845831/72b8530f0f/

>>8847452
It's running fine. Looking forward to where it will go in the future

There have been some stories where the premise is "wife finds out about husband's NTS fetish" but I wonder if there's any "husband finds out wife has a cheating fetish but loves him too much and is too loyal to act on it" premise?

>>8847452
I'll let you know later.

>>8847640
There are, but it's rare. The issue is that most people don't like the idea of a wife that wants to cheat on her husband, and throw it into the same category as 'wife manipulates/stockholms her husband into be a cuck'.

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>>8847452
>>8847289
Okay, recording first impressions:
>Cute NTS title pun.
>Thank God it's in Ren'Py.
>"NEW GLME"? What does that mean?
>Nice art, not bad for AI.
>Standard Isekai Setting.
>Love the MC. He is so cute!
>Love the FMC. Gorilla, indeed.
>Writing has tons of grammar errors.
>Don't like the first bull; ugly bastard.
Overall thoughts: Good idea, art is fine, writing is weak. Recommend you use an LLM like Grok or Claude, both to correct things like spelling and capitalization, but also to help you punch up the script, and maybe even to plan out the pacing and plot beats. Jumping straight into a blowjob is too fast; it's the same mistake the Nyatorase dev made. It looks like you wanted to start in medias res and then go back in time to explain how MC met FMC, but I don't think that narrative structure works with NTS, where the whole point is to slowly escalate with the bull, and each first is momentous. Add more choices. In particular, give the player a veto over bulls; I really don't want to share my gorilla with that creepy innkeeper.

>>8847683
Oh fuck thank you I'm so glad it runs
>"NEW GLME"? What does that mean?
that upside down V is the a on that font, maybe I'll change the font for the menu.
>Nice art, not bad for AI.
>Writing has tons of grammar errors.
yep like I said plenty of typos, I'll fix em eventually
>Don't like the first bull; ugly bastard.
other recurrent/main bulls planned he's not one of them, I just wanted some random guy to introduce the story
>writing is weak.
>Jumping straight into a blowjob is too fast
I wrote the story in advance and it's gonna be pretty slowburn, too slow actually.
That's why I put together this intro prologue as an afterthought I wanted to at least introduce the characters and have a go at a blowjob, so yeah I'm jumping back in time at how they met ad developing their relationship now.

>>8847640
Embrace 寝取らせプレイで解る彼女の淫望 plays with a similar idea. Husband is a writer wanting to write an NTS story, tries to convince wife, but no dice. Takes her to an onsen his friend owns, and he reveals he has this genie friend, and they use it to read her innermost thoughts, and it turns out she used to be a huge closet perv, fantasizing about getting fucked by guys and teachers in school. They reawaken those thoughts as they ramp up the netorase and she basically ends up sleeping with everyone at the inn.

Execution is pretty ass imo, and it's an obnoxious rpgmaker game, but maybe try it if it sounds like your thing.

>>8847720
keep in mind bulls are a subjective preference, please just add the bulls you personally like

>>8847262
Good intro, the Heroine's design is very attractive and her being constantly horny is a big plus. The UI feels smooth and the sex scene is organized very well. I actually like ugly bastard bulls so hope you do more, and even if you don't keeping their eyes shadowed is a good move. I can't make any comments about the story or main characters since we hardly know them. Be proud you've done this much already

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Thanks a lot everyone that's what I needed.
You fags got me motivated and now I'm all gorilla mode unga bunga working on an update.
But on a different topic leaving my slop aside, NTRobo is working on a new book, I don't think he's talking about RJ01586678 that hasn't even released yet, but I think that one is gonna be mom nts since the synopsis only mentions the son.

>>8847868
NTRobo mom NTS might actually kill me
I hope you're right

I actually am enjoying the perspective of the bull trying to steal the wife but she denying me. Maybe I fapped too much from the cuck's perspective

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really enjoying the scenario where someone is looking for my gf/wife and i'm covering for her, knowing that she's fucking the bull nearby

>>8847992
For me it's the reverse.
>gf/wife's friend covering for her while I'm looking for her

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Imouto NTS makes me weak at the knees...

>>8848264
His previous started as Ugly bastard x shimaidon, but plot twist! It was ended up as NTS.

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I wish more NTS and NTR works from this artist got translation

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/93383251/illustrations

>>8845759
https://hentaiera.com/gallery/1320409/

>>8847278
Whoa, source on these? Fantastic.

favorite masochistic NTS manga or image?

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>>8848342
Yumi is the one I keep going back to the most

>>8848367
Every time I read it it seems like ntr, maybe if they involved the cuck more

>>8848372
it's technically BSS NTR->NTS but the NTR is very week and her becoming used goods before meeting mc enhances the maso NTS so much I don't even mind it

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>>8848342
One of my favorite

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I like when the wife initiates Takuran

>>8848367
god she is the perfect woman

>>8839516
>>8842175
sauce?

how do i search for takuran on hitomi

>>8848546
Read the OP you monkey

>>8848435
I wish the author would make more of this, I wanna see their married life.

>>8848435
I don't like how this one seemed to turn into stockholm ntr/nts at the end.

>>8841271
oh wow like I've never lived in a country where women are free...daaaarn ittttt

>>8848508
That she is. And a perfectly angelic wife. Perfect angelic wives deserve to be pounded relentlessly by orc dick (i.e., BBC).

Is Chouko fully ntr til the end or am I reading the last few pages wrong and mc just had a cuck fantasy since I’m eyeing the complete edition and it has 40 more pages and coping

I thought the appeal of nts was the woman never falling for the bull and always loving (You) unconditionally and only treating the bull as a walking meat dildo but this place loves bbc more than nts itself it seems

>>8848919
Isn't BBC perfect for that tho? Walking meat dildo that you're wife would never fall for?

>>8848923
Idk man most of the posts here are bbc impreg and responsibility dumping which leans more to ntr than nts, cause it’s completely disregard to the partner, and the supposed “loved” partner being neglected all the same

>>8848924
I was just saying from my perspective, I don't agree with the other guys in the thread doing that. I also think pregnant wife bbc nts is hot, but only if the child is the husbands. Yeah I think a lot of other guys into the bbc stuff look at it as purely degradation for the wife, seeing it as a form of acceptable borderline "beastiality"

>>8848919
that's because you're a retarded tourist that doesn't actually like nts and prefers shitposting instead

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>>8839516
https://exhentai.org/g/3852281/1c5208c15d/

Pure Netorase

girl finds guy's netorare books and starts sending him videos

picrel is 1st page and 2nd to last page

>>8848994
It ends with pure romance like Netorase club

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anyone has pic related?
it released but no one uploaded it yet (lol)

>>8848919
that's why I'm here. I don't get the BBC worship and takuran shit

>>8849134
that's on you for not being gay like the rest of us

>>8848994
>chinese

>>8848435
It's been quite a while since i last saw any new work from him, is he working on something ?

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>>8848642
Same, tsurutsuru ippai and yuuhoku should make a sequel of their works

>>8849171
Missing since 2024 unfortunately

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Which one is better for NTS story and pacing? multiple Maotoko/bulls or only one bull?

>>8849184
A single bull is probably easier to handle from a pacing/escalation standpoint, but it really comes down to writing skill.

im so sick of every woman having giant boobs

>>8849318
ok faggot

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>>8849318
>I'm so sick of [something extremely heterosexual]
So you're the faggot crying about the bull needing to be handsome, lmao!

>>8844708
the only acceptable birth control is cuck tongue

>>8849436
>bags of cum
how do i filter these out?

>>8849481
That's your dinner lil nigga

>>8849436
making out with my coyote wife after she's given the balls of her black bull a loving tongue bath

I miss yuuhoku.

>>8849827
Most of his works are ntr

>>8849176
Wait what 2024 ? I swear he did something last year

>>8849850
RJ01224979 was his last work

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Perfect NTS

>>8849867
Damn, i guess i got confused because someone uploaded one of his work in english , that's sad and i hope he comes back, i really like his works

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>>8839516
Anyone know the artists name?

>>8850009
Yor is so fucking hot but Spy x Family NTS (and NTR) does nothing for me.

>>8850009
for me it would be if the wife was trans

>>8850201
Same here

>>8850201
It's just a romcom like any other anime. Established characters doing NTS is hot

>>8850280
I enjoy the story, but I've never felt that much of a spark between her and Loid like other romcoms.

>>8850335
It's an arranged marriage with very very light romance. Plus the two are weirdo spies who're wearing a mask most of the time. It makes sense people wouldn't be attached to the couple.

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The queen of parodied NTS remains Takagi-chan!

>>8850440
Not only is her personality perfect for it, but I could 100% see Nishikata getting frustrated from her teasing and trying to resist but ending up as puddy after her loving handjob.

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>>8850457
I like how she's innocent and smug at the same time

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Wtf. This got licensed to English. Never in a million years would've expected. https://x.com/CoFUNGames/status/2036250776566374537

I already played in JP and the gameplay makes you want to die, and it is NTR coded with straight up NTR ending, but it's good at least that there's some NTS stuff getting licensed. Increases chances Bokudaka might make it.