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Did Holodomor happen?
And if it did, whose fault was it?
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>>18368958
Bad Empanada debunked it.
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>>18368958
Holodomor was caused by the communist party as revenge against the Ukrainians for siding against them in the civil war. They literally took away food and farming equipment from farmers.
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>>18368963
Isn't it the consensus that the famine was caused by collectivization of farming and bad weather?
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>>18368961
MentisWave debunked him, twice.
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>>18368958
Yes
Stalin was at fault
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>>18368963
But Stalin and Putin weren't punished because the Ukrainians weren't as important as the Jews that Hitler and Khamenei wanted to kill
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>>18368963
>Holodomor was caused by the communist party as revenge against the Ukrainians for siding against them in the civil war.
It would have been very out of the character for the Bolsheviks to wait until the 1930s to punish a Civil War enemy, they already started eradicating the Cossacks starting in 1919, and there's really no Civil War-related reason for Bolsheviks to have particular animosity towards Ukrainians, they mostly just got clobbered by anybody who showed up, White, Red, Pole, or German.
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>>18368972
Yes.
The famine was the result of a bad harvest made worse by disasterous collectivizarion policies.
It was then made purposefully worse by food requisitions and blacklisting and closing-off of entire communities.
The famine effected Southern Russia as well.
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It did but it happened to communist incompetence instead of evil intent (the famines also affected Kazakhstan)
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>>18368972
Yes. The same USSR appointed the RFK of their time as head of agriculture, who earnestly believed that by planting "communist grain" next to "virgin grain" he could increase yields.

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