>>18369310
No. I'm not in my desktop rn but I made a similar post a while ago.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18314938/#q18318111

>>18369310
Didn't the VCs play a big role in actually compelling the Americans to pull out? In that case they have had to remain operational, no?

>>18369310
From what I understand after Tet the organic SV Vietcong was heavily bled out and they've had NVA regulars join them through Laos, which paradoxically made VC more of a problem and also explains why US pressure and later bombing of Laos happened when it did.

>>18369310
Whole conflict is a stalemate

>>18369631
Massive mutt cope

>>18369633
It actually true tho

t. not American

>>18369310
Yes.
But at the same time it exposed the lie that the NVA and VC had taken loss after loss and no longer had any manpower left to fight.

>>18369310
They lost the battle by casualty count, taking terrific losses not just from smaller groups but also from their dedicated and well trained/well supplied units, but they ended up winning the war due to the perception of it in America. Keep in mind that we were not just fighting commies, we were also propping up a series of really shitty leadership in South Vietnam which could be as bad as the commies up North depending on how much you protested against them.

>>18369638
>America joins the war with the explicit goal of preventing Vietnam from falling to Communism.
>Vietnam falls to Communism barely a decade later.
How anybody can see this as anything other than a failure is beyond me.

>>18369856
In the short term the VC took incredible casualties, that is why. Perhaps you should go to a board that is more suited for your mental abilities, like /b/

>>18369859
>In the short term the VC took incredible casualties
So did the south vietnamese army. So what?

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>>18369859
>In the short term the VC took incredible casualties
No shit. That's what happens to literally every guerilla movement ever. The VC knew this and specifically planned around and accounted for the fact that they would lose more men than the US.

Trying to claim the US won because of bodycount alone is pants-on-head retarded. Germany killed way more Russians than vice-versa. Nobody's claiming WW2 was a resounding victory for them. Hell, Germany killed a lot more Allied troops in WW1 than they lost. Nobody in their right mind would try to say World War One was a German success. The Japanese lost more men than the Russians in 1905, but anybody calling that war a Russian victory would be off their fucking rocker. Vietnam was a defeat for the US by any rational metric.

>>18369859
>Yeh nigga but we kill more them chinks
Was the Vietnam war an expedition to collect skulls for Huitzilopochtli or something? Or was it a war to stop the spread of Communism in Vietnam?

>>18369859
This post is what Westmoreland would say if he was a 4chan poster lol, he was also a bodycount dumbass and thought KD ratio would cripple the NVA and VC

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>>18369859
At least red napoleon won unlike the og emperors himself.

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>>18369310
/thread