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First for a control group: this is my drawing without any adderall.
>Attempted lizard from memory
>A rabbit plush thingy I have on my desk
>Decided to draw a silly guy
>A single cube study
>I use to be able to draw the female midsection, but apparently not anymore
>Attempted this cat elf character I like

>>7849116
kill yourself

You should share the thread of the squizo pixel art dude

Keep this up. I wanna see where you end by the end of the year.

>>7849160
Realistically tomorrow the thread will be abandoned

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Took the adderall toughly 15 minutes before drawing again. Went for that mentioned 2-ish hours. In order:

Oak leaf because favorite tree.

Tried drawing a Six-lined Racerunner. I picked a couple of lizards because they were the one thing I could draw as a kid but turns out they're pretty weird to draw. I was silly for thinking that they had shoulders and hips when they're just tubes with limbs sticking out.

Acorn I found on the ground.

I tried to do a meme cat but the action shot was passed my level and he ended up looking round.

Blurry stock photo of an acorn sprouting.

Fucked up cube. I need to do more fundies.

Attempted to draw Crazy Redd's Ginko leaf from animal crossing. Didn't get the shape right at first and tried to do a more toonish outline. Then I decided to give it some detail since conveying the solid color wasn't as fun.

>>7849119
>>7849172
Rude! The government should intervene and monitor the whole internet to stop mean comments like this!

>>7849131
Where's that? I'm not too familiar with the board.

>>7849160
Heard.

>>7849265
How can you be 31 years old and unable to draw a fucking cube? Im convinced people like you literally see the world differently. Like maybe your brain doesnt process visual information and everything is hazy? Or its like colorblindness. Idk. You're able to use the English language and navigate websites. So youre not retarded. But I dont get it. Anyways. When I was on Adderall I just ended up watching classic wow streams for 16 hours a day and never had an appetite. Now I believe adhd is completely fake and adderall is bullshit.

>>7849274
>How can you be 31 years old and unable to draw a fucking cube?
That's the 3rd cube I've drawn since elementary school. Didn't spend long on it with most of the time spent trying to figure out where the points would meet up with how it was connecting in my brain. As fast as I did it, I wasn't able to translate from my brain to paper and hand. On that aphantasia scale, I'm 2.5ish.

I was convinced ADD was BS too until I took a dose from a friend and was able to connect one task after another. Stuff otherwise feels like I need to start a task, drop, pause, reboot. Sometimes trains of thoughts just straight up drop.
I'm not able to tear myself away from the PC to do something I need which I chalked up to discipline (which is also why I thought it was BS), but a little more research mentioned that it balances the hormones and dopamine payoff in your brain which can help solve motivation too.

>>7849114
The fuck does Adderall have to do with drawing lmao

>>7849265
genuinely ignore people shitting on you, im rooting for you unc. Keep this shit up.

>>7849690
hell drop your discord, i wanna keep you going every day myself or ig i'll drop mine
lucca.iww

>taking meth do draw

I hate zoomers so much it's unreal

>>7849795
adderall is composed of amphetamines, not methamphetamines. i don't know what it is about you pseudointellectuals and wantonly disregarding decades of research into pharmaceutical therapy for the treatment of adhd. do you think you sound smart when you say shit like "lmao zoomers take medicine, you should die of heart worms instead"? you sound like an ignorant fool.

>>7849795
31 is a zoomer?
I guess it's pretty close to the line

>>7849808
Yes

>>7849265
unironically do like the first couple lessons on drawabox

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This will be closer to my normal time posting. Yesterday I had work off.

Tried doing a cube I was visualizing my head. I definitely struggle with steep angles.

Did a less steep cube from my head again. The faces feel more correct than the first one. I keep wondering if I should try this with a straight edge.

Tried drawing my eraser only to find out that it would be a no erasing challenge if I moved it.

Wanted to try drawing a cherry stem but but the leaves ended up being more than I bargained for. The stem thicker than the reference picture too. Thinking about how the leaves and cherries layered though was fun.

Tried drawing a cross with no straight edge. Burned myself out on the cherry stem and it was even harder I think. The way lines disappear into each other isn't something I can put onto paper just yet.

Kot sitting from behind.

>>7849619
Nothing, but it does have to do with an inability to focus on any task that doesn't immediately give you the happy brain tingles.
Apparently, it also stabilizes my mood and makes me less able to get cranky at work. So that's something.

>>7849795
Look at it this way: You wouldn't argue that the world is populated with dysfunctioning retards, right? Well, some dysfunctioning retards can operate near-normal with some prescribed legal meth.

>>7849808
Hey now, not all of us were flossing ipad teens with broccoli hair.
>tfw I can't relate to millennials or zoomers

>>7849690
I'm aware of how harsh 4chan can be and how /ic/ is bad even by 4chan standards, I was just goofing off a bit.

>>7850350
Box stuff overall is definitely on the radar since it's definitely a catch all for perspective and how shapes change as depth moves. I considered that backgrounds are on my list of things I'd love to do, which 100% calls for some boxes.

>>7850648
try a double dose

>>7850653
I was actually quarter-dosing and it peaked at #2. So - at least half doses for sure.

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Another cube from my mind, I feel good about the right face mostly but the lack of steady had makes things more crooked than I imagine. I felt like I could imagine ahead of time how the lines work.

Using a straight edge. Is this cheating?
Update: Used it at first and felt good about the right face, only for the other faces to feel less good. Tried my best to finish it.

Crow on branch, the beak was the hardest part but soon as I got a sense where where the beak should end vs the eye coming up with the rest of it came a lot easier. The crow as a little shorter than it was supposed to be but I didn't give it enough canvas space.

Gameboy on my desk and then i drew the arcade pattern on my desk mat only after I put it away.

In the last 15 minutes of my 2 hour timer, I tried to draw one of the patterns on said desk mat. The mix of curved edge with straight lines is something to get use to. Same thing with the Gameboy.

I'm a modafinil boy can I join

Hello anon, this is a fun idea, I hope you're enjoying the doodles.
I think your referenced drawings are quite good for a complete beginner, but you seem to really deeply struggle with perspective, even with simple boxes and boxy shapes. You should probably focus on that for now. Although if you think it's boring to just draw boxes all day, it doesn't matter so much. As long as you keep filling out your little notebook, you'll be a lot better at the beginning than at the end. And if you get frustrated at moments, just keep in mind that those the ones where you're learning the most.
t. Lazy 3 year /beg/ with very messy and sloppy drawings

>>7852054
I don't see why not!

>>7852072
>complete beginner
Not sure if I fall in that since I have doodled and taken (half of) an art class before. But this is certainly the most serious I've been going at it so the bar might be low enough to call it beginner.
>You should probably focus on boxes for now even if you find them boring
I actually finding them a bit engaging and when I manage to get a face right it does feel nice. I keep feeling a sense of how it should look while I'm staring at the paper but putting it to line isn't as easy.
My thought was mixing some boxes for warm up before drawing a larger more focused thing, but I was for sure thinking of needing to practice cubes more since I want to know perspective for sure.

The crow is only as good as it was because it was a side profile, I think. Definitely want to learn more than side shots and 1:1.

>>7849114
Been taking methylphenidate (Ritalin) for the past year, and I've progresssed a lot.
I've had multiple days in which I've been able to do studies for 13+ hours straight.

I've decided that if my psychiatrist ever takes me off the meds I will simply buy meth and start micro dosing it.

Personal advice, if you have ADHD, as I have, there's a certain amount of hyperfocus that you are able to tap in without the stimulant, try to abuse that natural hyperfocus near the start of the day and take the stimulant after that runs out in order to maximize gains each day.
Also, if you aren't doing it already, start working out. Working out not only is good all around, but helps me pass out and sleep like a baby despite the stimulants whenever they run out.

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1) Another square from brain, picked a bad spot for it.

2) From reference. What tripped me up a lot was figuring out if the perspective made the vertical lines parallel, but no it removes the parallel.

3) From reference which I could feel how this one should look, but I feel like I spent too long trying to make sure lines are parallel and centered.

4) spent a little w while on this before deciding to try being a little less precise and just follow where felt it should go. Not feeling the left face as much.

5) No reference, tried doing it as fast as possible with whatever popped to mind.

6) Focus starting to suffer, the 3 to 11 oclock of this I forsook trying a straight edge and just going for what my brain saw. I don't feel it's perfect but it still feels right.

7) Still felt like focusing and wanted to do a non-box tonight, drew a rabbit semi quick.

>>7852694
>If you have ADHD
I think I have inattentive ADD. The doctor didn't ask questions or really dig into it, they just just "aite" after I mentioned the behavioral health consult pulled up my previous dx.
>Use your regular hyper focus and then use the stimulant
That's essentially what I'm doing. I'm taking it after work or at the tail end of work, a single 4hr quick release dose when I was prescribed 2 a day.
>Start working out
If I eventually conform to sleeping at 10PM or something I considered it, 24 hour gym super close to me. Go at 4AM. On my meds I have good motivation to want to do stuff.

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Had a couple days of the adderall causing my to wake up at 4AM randomly, so I think that wore on me today. Gonna try making up lost sleep.

1) Tried a square in under a minute no reference.

2) Tried drawing the square left to right , learning that I run into a challenge with the last face I draw. Used a brief reference at the end to figure out the last part.

3) Couldn't figure out the bunny's back foot so I gave up and gave him a sneaker. I felt good about the head mostly but kinda went down from there.

4) Tried a sneaker at low energy, dropped mid way.

5) Drew some random lines which looked kind of like a sail. Definitely too tired tonight.

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1) Cube... rectangle from reference! Or a least it started with reference. I'm having a harder time lately looking off of the picture vs just drawing what I feel should be there, but I don't think that makes it better.

2) A little rectangly but I feel better about this one.

3) Went for a symmetrical one, felt pretty solid with this one. Caffeine + adderall has me a little too zooted to keep my hands precise.

4) Same thing but reversed don't feel as sure on this one.

5) Chipmunk from study. They're pretty dumb looking animals. The power left portions were covered by leaves I didn't draw, so I had to make up an approximation.

6) Twig with berry from study.

7) With my last 10ish minutes I tried a fast cube.

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One night of regular sleep was instantly followed by another randomly waking up at 4AM, so I'm taking half of the regular amount to try curving that.

1) Cube from imagination.

2) Someone told me to try a method where I place dots where I feel they should go and connect them. I'm not super able to just eyeball where the dots should go but I think this turned out fine for how weird it felt.

3) Another study of the 3D rabbit I stare at. Totally fucking up the feet. I wonder if I should just go with "I think this is how it should look" over relying on my eyes to much". Underside angles are also a bit tricky.

4) If this looks the same in 10 years, I know I've matched the CHAMP.

5) Cherries from study.

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Another half dose today couldn't take a full one early enough. Also wanted to use a finer point so I grabbed a mechanical pencil.

1) Cube from imagination, no reference.

2) Steeper box from reference.

3) Cube from ref.

4) Needing to do some round shapes, so I stared at my chapstick.

5) Some cones.

6) First attempt at a hand.

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Work was a giga stinker so I'm going at the last hour of the full dose.

1) Fast square, not good

2) Less fast square, better.

3) Broke my unmentioned 'no anime until I'm better' rule to draw something I wanted, I liked the pose a lot.

Skimped on the body / anatomy a bit, the right leg was supposed to be back more. That's the most accurate head shape I've ever managed too, far as any style goes.

4) Hastily done tree.

Almost skipped today but 1.5 hr rep is better than no rep.

Is using a straight edge cheating at all?

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Work stunk again, so shorter.

1, 2, 3) Shapes

4) I didn't plan the space ahead well enough for the tree I was reference. It's a geometree.

ITT anon becomes a meth addict in a futile attempt to escape beg

>>7858316
>I opened this thread to document my progress and for everyone else's observation / amusement.
Well yes, anon is experimenting on himself for everyone's amusement.

>>7858316
suffering for craft is based

>taking dexies and drawing porn for 15 hours straight
normies ngmi

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>>7858310
On box #1 I'm seeing if I smush it ever so slightly at the top the length looks a lot better.

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Work had me want to drive straight into traffic with overtime, so it's time to draw.

...

Scratch that, all I got. For Cube #2 I stared at at a vanishing point tutorial and I THINK this is better?

>>7858316
try putting in 1200+ hours drawing porn from paused videos with one hand on your dick in a year and see if you dont make massive progress in terms of skills like anatomy or observation. meth gooning works

>>7858330
only way to do it

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1 2 and 3 - Doing this shit without a proper straight edge is fucked.

4 - Turning staircase practice.

5 - Smudge

Ideally you should be doing much more than one page per day at this level. Open a perspective book or video and start going ham on drawing various things in perspective. Spend 30+ minutes or however long it takes you to draw at least 3 pages FULL (not 5-7 heavily spaced out boxes, but like 10+) and then finish that off by drawing a page full of things that you want to draw.

Your adderall experiment is going to fail purely because you aren't drawing enough.

>>7860482
Yeah I definitely feel you there. Compared to some days I feel like I'm not making positive progress compared to something like #3 >>7857464, or other days are 'clicking' better than others. I've also got the full-ish list of things I want to practice, but the page a day doesn't isn't a fast enough rate to meet all of that.

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Busy with buds all day, so half of this was unmedicated.

1-4 A serious attempt at this. Was doing a mix of free hand and using a straight edge for help. Not sure how boxy / even these are with 3 definitely being more of a rectangle.

5 Animals are really fucking weird to reference since some of them are just fat with only the slightest bit of structure.

6 Attempt at a square turned into a rectangle.

7 Referenced a most superstitious fellow, Birdnar.

8 Attempted eyeballing the fastest cube I could.

9 An attempt to do a serious face and head study turned into a middle aged man learning to let it go.

10 This is my cool OC, Peanautilus. You're NOT allowed to make fun of him.

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1-6 A mix of free-handing and eyeballing. BEtter than last night, #5 stinks.

7-9 2 VP focus.

10-14 Four circles and one oblong practice. First circle attempts since starting this.

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15 First ever earnest stab at the neck and shoulders, I always was afraid of these.

16 Same thing I supposed, altered pose.

17 Eyeballed a lady making a pose.

18 Harpy girl egg.

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1-7 I'm liking 2 VP, better than just staring at the cube ref I was using. Couldn't figure out 3, then 6 and 7 were oddly tough to figure out.

8-12 Other shape practice. Tried to eyeball a pyramid for 12.

13 Silly Norwood 3 man

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Okay I guess I get it

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Wait a second...

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OMG!!!!!!!!

>>7862721
why have vanishing points if you aren't projecting to them

this is a very interesting thread, anon.
before medication, how long were you able to focus on drawing without just getting distracted? has this improved after medication?

>>7862851
Because I'm just replicating what I saw until I had to be told that you use BOTH vanishing points, not just the dominant sides.

>>7862854
How long could you focus?
3 hours max a day spent only on work and then it fell off a cliff after that.
>On drawing
It would be 20 or 30 minutes tops, but now that I'm feeling the motor skills a bit it's easier to go along with it. I use to not be able to go any hour by any means.
Now whenever medicated +/- an hour. My posts on the 18th was 6 hours of it.

>>7862854
>>7863004
Typed that in a rush:
now my focus is 4 hours +/- 1.

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>>7849114
One of the most interesting thread concepts I've seen so far, I wish you well as a fellow ADHD/ADD-er (who got up at least like 10 times to pace around my apartment while trying to read this thread)

ADHD has genuienly fucked my quality of life a little, like I have actual retard levels of ADHD (shaking and rocking back in forth in public, needing things explained slowly to me, forgetfulness, etc) but I'm trying to get back some control and discipline myself in the way I can. I found that setting timers, sending my personal to-do list to a friend (adds some extra urgency and accountability) and occasionally changing my workspace helps. It didn't really help with music though, which is why although I loved orchestral music and playing the oboe, I ended up quitting after highschool. I would try tying myself down, setting timers, locking myself in rooms, taking sleep medication to make me too tired to get up, and even a small tent to further enclose myself just so I could practice, and none of it worked.

I'm completely umedicated, btw, which is definitely a huge factor in this, but I'm beginning the process of trying to seek some sort of treatment. In highschool I was on strattera and it fucked up my mental health bad while only giving me minimal positive results I was discouraged from adderal since I have a history of psychosis, but I'm interested in trying it off of one of my friends.

I drew your cool OC as a tribute to your research.

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1-7 Dang these be a lot easier when you do it the right way.

8-10 Some poses, 10 was a 3/4 I fucked up immediately and couldn't save.

11-17 Some circle practice.

>>7863341
Thank you for drawing Peanautilus, I shall treasure this.

>ADHD has genuienly fucked my quality of life a little,
I can't speak for ADHD but I can just /presume/ it's worse than ADD. In hindsight after I took way too long to finish college or strained peoples' patience for me, I realized I was doing some things on hard mode that didn't need to be there.
If you go to speak to a doctor they'll potentially ask you to speak to a psychiatrist or behavioral health. I'd recommend looking up how they differentiate between AD(H)D and depression for any answers or what you talk about. Previous diagnoses will also help.

Being snappy with the things you do is how I recently improved things for the better. Even shit as dumb as taking a piss felt like it would take too long for my liking, or refilling water. I had to build up a habit of just doing it.

Similar to drawing now, in fact. Did OT again and only had 5 hours of sleep, but as anons say, "just draw".

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1-4 I understand why that one Frieren angle was hard to draw now.

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5 Until I learn hair, I'm stuck doing balding men acting with dignity.

>>7849114
This looks pretty good anon. I’m way younger than you but I’ve been experiencing similar issues with lack of motivation especially for things I’m interested in all my life. Must be the executive dysfunction thing, maybe. Hope this works out for you! Don’t push yourself too hard and get some rest when you can, seriously.

>>7864386
Appreciate it. Rest from work is the big thing for me and stuff comes in waves with seasons, so, I'm awaiting for the weeks I'm done by noon and can squeeze in more or earlier drawing. Didn't expect moving from food and retail to a desk job meant going from physical to mental / emotional exhaustion, which is half the reason I went for medication (the other half is literally for this thread).

I wouldn't go ahead and say "oh yeah maybe you too have some dysfunction go right ahead" off the bat, as it can be a ton of things. Big thing to do imo is just work on good habits, be willing to break routine, and get over the "didn't do it right the first time" frustration. That last one was the biggest thing holding me back.

Other tip for if you're really into projects or got ideas you stop putting energy to, is to not really talk about it. When people go "oh wow anon that's so cool" your brain goes "yeah, that is so cool" and you got some unearned dopamine before the thing is even finished. I'm being super selective about what I'm sharing outside of here for that reason, letting it be just for feedback or quips. 10 years ago I would be showing and telling everyone and then losing motivation straight away.

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Almost missed today but I shan't stop.

1-7 Wanted to try these out drawing them a little closer together, see what it might feel like if I have them as a group.

8 These have me wanting to draw mannequins with clothes, because outfit designs are one thing I'd like to do. I'd like to see any suggestions or references anons have for fabrics and clothes.

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Not a ton all things considered, but pleasing results.

1 That far shoulder with that pose lol

2 Some shoulder to figure out there for sure.

3 Once again, shoulders.

4 Hoothoot :)

>>7865332
Cubes are getting better anon, the goal of the excercise is to draw a cube rather than a cuboid/rectangular prism so you can progress to drawing consistent forms.
Id start doing real basic gesture drawings if you want to improve drawing people, if you cant draw a good stick figure youre not going to be able to draw a good anime thot

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>>7866074
Yeah I'm getting plenty of "Ah shit" moments when I realize I made one length too long. Like when I did #7 I realized I overshot the second line I drew then just adjusted from there. #6 was weird since I never done one in that back sorta region and I picked a lazy spot to put the center.
I got it in mind to keep eyeballing equal lengths though, like 1 2 and 4.

Idk if this constitutes as gesturing, but I fuck around in MS paint here and there to make fast crude mockups of examples I'm trying to talk about. This was last week, but I was already going "Oh huh this looks better than it would have before I started"

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1-8 9-12 There, moderately more squarey less recktangles.

5-6 >>7866074 first attempt at gestures. I think I started #5 in the wrong order and then I didn't plan out the space enough for #6

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Medication wore out two hours ago, so gonna make this a 2 day piece.

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I never want to have to fix a perspective error ever again.

Good enough to put on my mom's fridge?

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1-6 Wanted to play around with the idea of a town plaza a little bit, then squares turned into rectangloids again.

7-9 Some o' these.

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>>7849114
this is so strangely familiar - I've been wondering how my own adhd/tism affects my drawing/learning and I share some of your frustrations. I feel at times that I'm learning incorrectly or ineffectively for my brain - but I still get bursts of motivation every now and then - and I've definitely noticed improvement over time

>>7857464
Do you feel like you are more proficient at drawing natural/organic things like leaves, feathers, clouds etc? I don't mean like anatomy just things of that nature that don't really require as much knowledge as it does just a general vibe - does that make sense?

I tend to get quite frustrated when something I'm drawing doesn't match what I'm thinking - I also definitely draw far too quickly due to impatience or whatever, I suspect it's probably the same reason my handwriting is so bad too.

pic rel is some practice from last year, haven't done much since but this thread has made me sorta motivated - I feel like one of those several week bursts of drawing coming on

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First thing I was doing tonight, had to respond to my mom's auto emergency so that took out the medicated time I had (2hrs). Also got somewhat stumped on the shoulder there, so I'm gonna see what I can manage tomorrow.

>>7868772
>I feel at times that I'm learning incorrectly or ineffectively
I'm not so much worried about the "ineffectively", but I've taken anon's advice about trying to draw MORE since just a little bit each night certainly isn't enough. So long as I'm not exhausting myself. I'm finding myself wanting to fall back on artist friends here and there when I go "Oh that seems like a good guide - but what if that person made a mistake? I don't want to replicate the mistakes" which might be a time waster to get hung on.

>Do you feel like you are more proficient at drawing natural/organic things like leaves, feathers, clouds etc?
I just kinda gravitated toward wanting to draw nature stuff. A stretch goal may be to help my friend with backgrounds on our projects, so tree, flora, and fauna may be a part of that. I think the idea of finding cute stylistic ways to do them too, but I'll try for real / accurate too.

Harpy girls also fall in line with a subject manner that I don't get enough of, so I have in mind of "oh, I could make the content I want to see someday". I can see why many people dont bother rendering feathers too.

>pic rel is some practice from last year
I love the proud lookin' guy with the one brow up I'd definitely say to keep it up - especially if you just wanna make shit for fun.

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Second thing today, since I've been putting off shoulders. #1 I could turn into a cool evil sorcerer wearing a cloak and holding a staff if I add some glowing eyes at the top.

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Chipping at this one, need to do torso-to-leg lessons.
Also kinda fucked up trying this perspective but the background is fun to figure out how to adjust.

>>7869761
To be completely honest I was about to call you a retard when I first saw the post. But then I remembered 10 years ago when I first tried to get into drawing and attempted to draw for 20 min a day, it last a month before I gave up. The drawings were so shit, but there was more improvement than I remember, I definitely wish I continued.

So keep it up.

One word of advice though. Figure drawing is very deep, and trying to do perspective at the same time or gesture is going to be very difficult. I suggest copying figure drawings you like with simple perspectives, ideally from a demo so you can see how they draw. Or trace if that is too hard.

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I figured out the body fine-enough from over-investing in the perspective challenge, so imma call this one here. Should take a jab at faces and hands along with other perspective practice.

>>7869839
I wasn't going for gesturing at first, but it somewhat looked that way when I was trying to figure out the legs on this one.

good job bro keep it up

>>7870568
Seeing how my attempt at adding tilles in the back also mess up the shelves in the back too, They look fine at a certain angle of looking at it, but the wrong angle on the horizontal lines make them look like a part of the wall.

>>7870579
Thank you!

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Some of the fingers are a bit too fucked for me to wanna fix, but I got a feel for these little rascals now.

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1-18 Someone suggested I try out shapes that overlap and touch, so I went for that.

19-20 came out a bit rectangloid but I wanted to try out what the overlap might look like with 2VP.

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1-15 Another day on overlapping and toutching shapes.
16 mistakenly made it look like frog was witnessing horror so i rolled with it

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1 Wanted to try playing with values, at least as much as I could with pencils.

2 Best human anatomy from memory picking a random pose / angle.

3 Quickish simple shape reference.

4 Wanted to do a silly cat scrunging at first, but I made a mistake and rolled with that little fella instead. If a mistake makes me laugh I like to roll with it

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1 More o dis

2 Not perfect but shit's whack that you learn the body parts, then you gotta find a way to put them together. But tis was still a nice "hey this clicked" moment.

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3 More o dat.

4 I'm getting closer to doing Peanautilus justice.

5 Peanautilus took you to the beach! What a cool guy!

I had 15ish minutes left on my timer so I slapped down the background quick as I could.

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1-4 + 6 Someone suggested this exercise and im either too tired or going to fast, I ain't feelin it. But I think it helped me understand finger length a little more?

5 My fat hand, kept moving.

7-9 Learning how to connect the torso and hips.

10 Accidental perspective figure.

Keep at it. Unmedicated ADHD here. I don't think people understand how much it sucks, and the fucking "I don't want to brush my teeth today" whiners really give us a bad rap. I'm big on exercising executive function rather than coming up with a million little "life hacks". Using your prescription to focus on a challenging task is a sign you want to improve and not just wallow so I'm on the sidelines rooting you on

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Not a ton tonight. Had a hiccup driving my mom after work.

1) Tried to see if I could draw a body through a full clothed reference, but not there yet.

2) Decide to try drawing layers to a suit.

>>7874716
I appreciate it.

I myself went back and forth with not believing in it to "well maybe", then when reflecting on moments that strained my relations with people I had an eventual "oh I have an actual tism or something's not working right".
Mentioned before but I chalked it up to a lack of discipline, but stuff like entering another room and forgetting I was supposed to help my roommate pack for camping isn't normal. Then after 4 years at my job it made me realize how much I was brute forcing stuff.

I've also seen a share of "I'm a quirk ADHD chungus , haha" and even lived with one.

>>7875363
I'm looking at the drawings in this thread and I'm a bit confused. Are you taking medication so you can draw one fucking doodle a day with no aim, no objectives, no course to follow, nothing? What the fuck is the plan here? It's not gonna work. Your drawings aren't even bad by the way, but you can't get good by just doing one random thing a day. And I mean, if you're taking meth you might as well make it count.

>>7875773
I'll start with mentioning this isn't an experiment that can really easily have a control test. In my view even if it's left at a
>Can a fat autistic emotionally-drained 31 year old man whos employed full time learn art from taking meth at all?
and the result turned out to be no, that's still information that someone could reference down the line. If I fail people can point to this in an archive and go "no because you have to have a goal, look how this guy did it wrong" if anyone else got a similar idea.

I'll add that I'm having some severely shitty days too but I'm trying to force myself to draw anyway. I added mentioning that my job is "emotionally draining" as a bit of a broad stroke as to not make it sound like I'm making an excuse for anything, just addressing a reality that some days have me wanting to lay down the rest of the night or punch drywall. Or for a little more emphasis on my state currently, I haven't even touched video games since November (something I enjoy) and have people telling me I should get a new job.

That said I'm not pleased at all with days like >>7859182 >>7870568 >>7874629 >>7875363 either. But I'm still going for it.

>Aim, objectives, goals
Doing this so far I've gotten to think of goals a bit more, backgrounds are certainly on the list and #1 >>7873231 or >>7867518 I'm certainly pleased with. Even the dumb fucking beach on >>7873865 has me going "wow, I shat that out faster and better than I thought I could".

I wont disagree that I'm doing random stuff and jumping around. But I still am having some pleasing times that stuff is clicking better than before. So far I decided to rotate between:
>human anatomy
>perspective and backgrounds
>a fun silly thing to amuse myself and have fun with it

Maybe right now I'm waiting for a point that I feel like I got the general feel for things before hyper focusing on something or choosing a course.

thnx I'll keep the "make it count" in mind. Hope that addressed any questions.

>>7875773
Also, my goal is backgrounds + drawing gacha girls pregnant / giving blowjobs. But I'm trying to not give myself away in the future and I feel like I should avoid anime to start.

>>7875812
ADHD-bro again. Don't let 'em get you down. Personally I think most people could stand to fuck around with a new hobby for a month before diving in-depth. Which, of course, you could argue makes it less /ic/ worthy, but I think the content makes this worth while. I think there are other ADHD people who'd just like to quietly watch.

A job can just fucking wear you down especially if you're like me (and my ADHD friends confirm this is common) and you tend to overcompensate by putting all of yourself into your job. Consider that things like learning how to best use and dose your medication and learning to set boundaries at work and find ways to reduce stress so your free time becomes yours again is a part of the process of learning to draw.

Not to get too bloggy and psycho-speak, but my problem was forcing myself to do high focus tasks while my brain was stuck in the DMN. There were years where I would just do my eight hours, drive home and immediately sleep and no matter how much sleep I got it never changed things. I didn't even have the to words to understand that I was different and that there was a part of the brain associated with a thing called executive function and that it could be impaired in some people.

It's a journey that took years of reflection and bringing things like proper nutrition, and meditation, healthier defense mechanisms and proper sleep (I'm still working on this) into my life before I saw the benefits trickle into the broader spectrum of relationships, hobbies etc. and you're ahead of me in the game at age 31.

It's tough but it's worth it in the long run.

>>7875846
I don't think anon was trying to get me down, just had a question really. But I'll answer elaboratively either way. Do appreciate the thought either way.

And yeah jobs suck. I miss being a cashier for 24 hours a week but that don't pay rent.

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Real sloppy with these but this was super helpful actually.

5 Enjoy the shitty chair.

>>7875867
Yeah I think I just saw an excuse to rant about things on my mind. In any case I think a sampler plate of art concepts isn't a terrible idea for a little bit as long as you're using it to guide you to the resources that are good for you. I'm maybe a high-beg on a good day but I can give you some of the resources I've enjoyed. Although I know not every likes books like me. I do think the process of finding and experimenting with learning material should be considered as fun as the process of drawing lots of different things. It should be fun and I don't know why people let that post get them down.

But I'm a weirdo who can't help from blog-posting in Anno Domine 2026

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Not a super productive day, but I'm getting better at connecting the hips to the torso after the exercises on the 4th and 6th.

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Not a ton today. Setting up for a full 2VP picture, seeing if I can pull it off. Wanting to do a dirt path near the house.

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Some feller with a slouch going out walkin'.

Wanted to make this shadier but this many trees already was a pain.

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Youve been doing this for like a month and have made 2 days worth of progress I think you need to give up. Sometimes I get mad at HR for being so stingy with interviews but then I'm reminded that most people are on the verge of actual retardation

>>7878470
posting unmovable gif talm 'bout HR son go do your homework im crine

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Got trapped in overtime so this was the best I could muster. 2nd attempt at male hips didn't go so well. I should've sketched them first.

>>7849807
If you want some good guides on perspective:
- Perspective made eazy by Ernest R. Norling
- How to draw by Scott Robertson
- Complete guide to perspective from 1 point to 6 point by Craig Attenberry.
(For these, that specific order, the top one is eaziest, bottom one most complex)

You will also want to learn form (basically intuitive freehand perspective) but I do not know any good resources for it beyond just practicing perspective stuff freehand and copying and double checking yourself with 3d software like blender or measurements or making shapes in blender and copying them (alternate between those 2)

For anatomy:
- Michael Hampton Design and Invention
- Just looking at reffs and asking yourself what causes the bumps and folds and creases and what not and then looking up the muscle groups, fat distribution, bones etc.
- Some medical anatomy thingy where you can do 3d spins of stuff like anatomy.app
- Manga Materials EN is goated for studies but it's not as spoon feedy as Design and Invention, do copies and try to understand some things on your own.

>>7879490
That anon wasn't me, but appreciated.
I also just grabbed Thomas C Wang - Sketching With Markers on recommendation for me wanting to draw backgrounds.

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Found a great technique for better trees.

>>7880044
Grim progression. Adderall has fried your brain into thinking that looks good.

>>7880206
They said
>Better

>>7880351
They said
>great technique

>>7880378
Change 'great' to 'nice' and your crabbing loses its basis, try harder

>>7880508
Now change 'nice' to "shitty child's attempt at what they think a tree looks like" and we're good. The only crab here is you if you're trying to convince this drug addict that it looks nice. You could have just asked me to post a better example. Here's a nice video, and he'd be best off looking for more direct ink tutorials if he wants to improve his drawings with line only https://youtu.be/q_DSE4J3X8U
Now get back to your draw a box exercises and stop giving feedback, permabeg.

>>7880521
How many people post retarded threads without displaying any work? Why you gotta ride the guy for at least giving it a consistent shot. He's already lapped that ArbiterWolf guy in progress which, granted, is simply passing someone who tied his shoes together and face planted at the starting line. But that's more than a lot of people are willing to display

>>7880521
You're looking for reasons to rag on thr guy by laser focusing on their choice of words on something they probably spent 5 seconds typing.
All the context is there for this guy is a sperg by self admission who works full time, and this thread exists for anyone to check whether or not taking addy works for spergs. Expectations are on the tloor. There's nothing to kick down.

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Had a huge overtime, but I got this done. #3 not as good as I liked but it was interesting to try tackling this angle.

>>7880206
>>7880521
Here ya go nonners, I tried a little harder on #1 especially. I couldn't watch the video you sent cuz I don't have unlimited data, but it looks neat I like that he goes through different trees. I'll share what I was using next post, I definitely want to learn different trees since what I got going on was very much "a tree".

If you did want to help, I'd open with the video straight away. Stuff can read different ways and I certainly meant "better" as in the trees yesterday were far better than >>7873231 and >>7878465. If I'm ever saying "oh this clicked" or "oh this feels good", it's very much more of a "this is better than I thought I'd manage."

I'm under no illusion of my quality, so don't anything as misplaced confidence. The only ones I'm really pleased about is >>7867518 despite messing up the fella's leg, the tree, lazed out on the car (less than an inch tall, hard precision for me) and that left door, the blind shot at layering the feathers on >>7857464 (the body sucks), frog on >>7872369 even if I wish I drew the feet right an #3 #4 on >>7864325 because I accidentally made it look like two characters flirting.

The only thing I'll really pat myself on the back about, is that I opted to do this instead of cutting straight to tablet and flooding Xwitter with subpar anime pics. And because I have the "I must set the record straight" tism, I'm only taking half dosages and I'm not scratching at my neck to take addy. No cravings for it either. So I wouldn't say that's addiction. Or at least not as blatantly addictive like pain killers, I had to take those post-operation once and for 2 whole months there was a "dang I really want one."

Blog posted this much because I'm willing to engage in good faith. And maybe someone finds this stuff interesting.

>>7880530
>He's already lapped that ArbiterWolf guy
Archive link or QRD?

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>>7880206
>>7880521
This is what I was following for the trees last night. Which I'll reiterate, are /better/ than my trees before.

If you wanna show trees or do a step-by-step of how you do them, feel free.

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Cool vid nonners, thank you.

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Got busy. Could count this as a missed day since since parameters were broken:
>Daily
>Not medicated
>Less than 2hrs
But something better than nothing.

This angle is whack for trees, I'll have to go outside and look at some what the heck.

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Back to some figs.

>>7880782
Draw trees from life

the things begs do to avoid the actual suffering you mandatorily must go through to grow and conquer yourself are legitimately astonishing. these creatures can't fathom doing anything without some kind of 'hack' or 'trick'. They want to jump straight to the results without climbing the ladder.

>>7882980
If you read the thread, this exists for the sake of checking whether or not drugs are a jump, trick, hack, ect and letting us observe successes and failures. Or would you rather another one of these in the catalog?
>AI le bad
>AI le good?!
>Anime le bad
>My progress sucks, no I won't show examples

>>7883008
Agreed, I'm actually quite interested in his progress.. though I do wish it were someone more experienced mid-high beg at least. ADD people usually suffer from poor executive function and that's just a fancy way of saying they don't know how to prioritize and to truly have a control it would be ideal to have someone with some innate artistic ability or skill pushed to what they perceive was the limit of their abilities pre-meth.

Predictably the only somewhat decent drawing is the flat chested monster girl

>>7883024
I think that says more about you than anything else, anon

>>7883052
Which balding faggot man is your favorite, anon? Or do you like the floating cubes with fucked up perspective?

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>>7882980
Work makes me suffer plenty, but I'm getting some here and there with >>7867518 and >>7870568. On that first one I felt like I was going mad fixing my initial perspective error shown earlier, and I continued to do the power polls and lines until my arms were shaking how much I wanted to drop. On the 2nd one I groaned at myself for ruining it by trying to draw the inside of the store and just left it as "I fucked it up". It looked way better as a solid wall.

Would going "man I'm suffering at this" be useful to blogpost each time it happens?

>>7873862 >>7879369
These days also feel like negative practice, I don't like them.

>>7883012
>I do wish it were someone more experienced mid-high beg at least
Be the change you want to see in the world, anon (for legal reasons this is a joke)
idk the precise thresholds here, I poked into this board out of curiosity and I order a lot of commissions, but as someone who:
>only doodled as a kid
>dropped out of a drawing class
>limited free time
>been at this for 5 weeks
I'd say that's probably still low beg. Maybe there's cases that people jump to int in 1 month, but as someone who lacks the embarrassment that comes with showing failures I'd assume those are the exception cases.

>>7883024
Monster girls are what I actually want to draw, but the way I see it is that I gotta get good at the boring and harder thing first. I studied the official artwork and similar to #3 >>7851930 and #5 >>785455 there's decent results if I just copy what I'm looking at. I could do more studies for sure, but fundamentals feel more like a proper exercise to me. Have a 30 minute anime maid.

I have artist friends just recommending I go straight for drawing whatever I want + buying a tablet, and that fun will get me further, and they could be right. Probably all a balancing act + "draw more".

I have some friend giving me "good work" or "that's surprisingly good for someone who can't do a cube" but I try not taking that as a win.

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Not much 2 nite just wanted to try arms next. And anime hair again.

Gotta try faces and putting all the body parts together again soon.

I take Strattera. It helps with planning, executive functions and focus. I dont think a medication exists that makes you "better" at art. At most you now can do drawing longer. Saying that any medication makes you better at art is like saying medication exists that increases your IQ.

>>7849274
You got them hyper fixated on cubes now

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>>7884580
I was getting ready to say "I'll fuckin' do them again" and blow your mind, but trying it this way without guide / reference and figuring it out myself fried my brain a little.

>>7884276
I'm not under any illusion that it in itself will make me better at art, it's more like what >>7880575 said.

The medication has me in my free time go from a mouth breathing, screen-fixated dumb dumb to a mouth breathing, screen fixated dumb dumb who can detour to the pencil and paper for a couple of hours at least.

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>>7880521
Damnu niggas be having no fun on here, no wonder artists are so miserable

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Fucking up 2 and 5 made me realize I can do a fisheye effect for buildings.

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Very awful day cuz of work, drew unmedicated since I can't (shouldn't) take medication this late.

Drew boxes until failure at the end, part of my regimen, fingers getting so swole.

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>aderal
Geez
Otherthan that, how to plan reflection/refractions/translucency on a lineart, assume all colors of the object are defined (in its own, not just black or uniform) so, just planning out colors and values and, weird refraction shapes.

Also maybe how to make a 6 digit traffic content.. with ai now esp. in an equation too maybe

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1) Draw cubes for 6 weeks
2) ???
3)

How'd I do, chat?

>>7885981
I've had it a bit in mind, that if you don't complete a line you leave some gaps you get a little more dimension. The tree tutorial linked above mentioned it. I was thinking of watching more ink artists to see how they do it.

>>7885981
>traffic
Bump

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>>7886407
>Line
>Dimension
The fuck are you talking about
No there's no dimension and it's not what I am asking about.
>Ink artist
Well I don't struggle the usual way

>>7885981
>>7886460
Your question lacks question marks

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>>7886510
>?
There.

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Planning something else so i just filled the rest of the page with some perspective warm up.

>>7885981
>>7886460
Oh I didn't see that it was phrased as a question. Rephrase it if this doesn't answer your question, but I've looked a little into how to make deeper blacks look like a different color. I haven't practiced much but have played around with using different pencils for darker shades and outlines.

Way early to consider traffic being a thing so I won't get ahead of myself. But, going off of the creative projects I I am involved with the stuff I make has a few lovingly enthused people. It's always either 3 digit or 5 but I'm mostly concerned with if it was fun to do.

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>>7887018
>Different black
>Black
Th are you on.

You just need to show how to do realism. Planning it. In, materials. Steps. Are you even, actually knowing what are you grinding about? Maybe getting lucky is your only knowledge then.

>>7887167
not them, but i’ve seen your art around ic, and am really curious about what the story is, going on behind them?
like this draw looks like a super cool dynamically posed mech-armored dude..that could maybe be a quick gesture from a game or anime, or maybe a doodle from your head and no one in particular, or maybe a specific character..
i do kind of similar fast dynamic stuff sometimes and really like your work w/e the case so am just curious about your thoughts

>>7887167
>actually knowing what are you grinding about?
Not really and I didn't understand your question earlier either. If you could rephrase.

>>7887176
I am just trying to solve things first because I do not make money with art so far.
>>7887195
Maybe you do not understand anything or anything you say yourself. I put on Google and the subject came out. And they are just Abit goofy so maybe you are supposed to expand more on it but I guess not since you are far behind.
Digits appreciated but you are only chatting about so far.

I find the hardest part of ADHD is executive function, either I have no strength/motivation to do anything or I drink an energy drink and want to do EVERYTHING all at once that leads to doing very little. I've recognized that in myself so I tend to win the battle more often. Does the medicine help you actually structure your thinking and sticking with a task or are you jumping from thing to thing?

>>7887245
You have no ADHD, you have denial and racism.

>>7887254
>You have no ADHD
I try to live my life as if I don't but I can see my priority situation and the ability to hyperfocus while everything is on fire around me- yet not focus on things I don't find fascinating like being social.
>you have denial
I do, See above
>and racism.
I don't really, racism is really played out on both sides of the political scale. It's boring to me now because I can find an example of every race doing the same exact retarded shit except the J's

>>7887257
>Body of text
This all remains to be proven.
Then again mental illness or personality is a complex spectrum, or just the shape of brains and arabs/muslim idea of braincells.
Otherwise I think self diagnosing yourself is not quite useful when your interest is not self-accomodated.

>>7887269
>self diagnosing yourself is not quite useful when your interest is not self-accomodated.

I was diagnosed as a kid. my mother didn't believe in the zombie medication (as didn't I) they gave kids so I never took it. I'm pretty sure it doesn't just go away, so I looked into the DSM and the ADHD section read like a biography. I'm still against the drugs, but I do a bunch of other poisonous things to my body (like caffeine and alcohol- that's also a thing ADHD people do, try to self medicate) so I'm just asking if it will help my core problem, because I'm tired of knowing what I have to do but feel like I have to finish this little thing first- or even worse feeling as if I need to finish watching a video, like I can't pause and come back to it.

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Just some bullshit right now, haven't been super productive but I wanted to do some practice with this. and wanna squeeze in some tree practice here.

>>7887203
Are you using a translator?

>>7887245
The medicine helps prevent my thoughts from wandering with a splash of getting enjoyment out of finishing tasks. Some of what adderall is suppose to do is dopamine regulation (whether that's increasing it or decreasing it idk) which is the primary motivator for doing stuff.

You can do other things to regulate your dopamine better, like setting either short or longer duration effort -> reward things.
>Don't get on your phone before washing your face, brushing your teeth
>Do your chores before jacking off
>Do 30 minutes of reading before enjoying a snack, or 2 hours before snack
Stuff like that.

For me the biggest deterrent to drawing personally is that I was one of those who felt bad for not getting it right the first time. But with age I got over that. Getting the adderall /probably/ is just the thing that helps me sit down a bit longer.

>>7887735
>Translator
>Still confident in replying
>Expecting answers
No need for pretentious retard like you
Maybe learn more things first before you act like a 90 year old star trek star who hire a ghostwriter. Even then you need to have less balls on your brain

^what is blud trying to say

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Had a bigger idea for this one but sorta got bored of it so I'll wrap it here. 3VP wasn't as daunting as I thought though.

Made me aware I need to learn other geometry. Only other thing i looked up so far was quick and dirty cylinders.

>>7887751
No, like your typing is actually hard to comprehend. I don't know what your original question was, if you could rephrase.

>>7888217
Push the vanishing points off the paper. It's more natural looking that way

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I'm at the grape store you guys want anything?

This one has me wanting to buy some colored pencils.

>>7888256
Yeah that was something I had noticed, part of why I stopped feeling this one. Anything that got too close to them just looked off, especially the warping on anything large at the bottom.

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Guys I don't wanna talk about how long it took me to remember what the horizon line does can we change the subject?

>>7887777
I think he just called ADHD anon a gay William Shatner

>>7889412
Good thing I'm ADD anon not ADHD anon. Phew!

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This week felt like a fair bit of anti practice (save for the grapes maybe) with the lack of sleep, but here's some legs.

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Earlier:
>I don't wanna render a tree for 8 hours

Tonight when I need to fix sleep schedule:
>I want to render a tree for 8 hours

Kinda fucked up the leaves already, but 3VP practice helped me at least get the down-up direction of the tree correctly. I'll see how I can save the leaves without too many eraser marks.

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Gonna give this one one more night. Realized I didn't learn framing or skies.