>>7870072
Is it safe to assume that you have either made or read a post like this before, and that you didn't attempt any of the many helpful suggestions found in the responses?

>>7870083
Yes. If you look.it up in the archive i'm pretty sure you'll see posts that are like 3yo.

I have attempted tips and advice but i think i'm too fucked for it to work.
I tried a bunch of beginner books, the five minutes a day minimum, keep drawing supplies close by, try to do it early in the day etc. All of that.

I just can't do it or much else for that matter.

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HOLY SHIT, YOU AGAIN
Pick up a pencil and draw. For Fucks Sake.
DRAW, YOU RETARD. DRAW! DRAW! DRAAAAAAW!!!

>>7870088
Too tired.
I made it to a law college too. I couldnt draw when i had 24 hours of free time a day. Why would i be able to do so right now?

I dont study much either because i'm a retard.

This sort of public self-deprecating "oh woe is me" shit is just covert narcissism

>>7870089
How are you going to go through law school when you can’t study?

>>7870085
In which case, I'll just wish you well.
I hope you find a path.

>>7870103
Its not as hard as people claim desu. I got passing grades on all of my midterms with like 10 hours of studying total.

There'll probably be a diffculty spike that rapes me at some point but so far its all fairly easy.

>>7870101
Sorry. I have no friends and rarely talk with family so pissing in the wind online is all i have.

I really do wish i was good at something. Not sure if i'm even "passionate" about drawing but i'm drawn to it regardless and somewhat. I just have no confidence.

>21
It's so over.

>>7870232
Yep.
I also have been making variations of this same post since i was like 18

If you want to illustrate something, give yourself a project.

There are tons of public domain stories to use, and giving your own spin on one will benefit you in many ways.

>>7870264
I cant even do the Loomis faces atp. I dont think im cut out for an actual project.

>>7870072
no one cares. this board is for people who draw

>>7870298
I wish to become such a person

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>>7870072
You've made this exact same copy and pasted thread multiple times. I'm 31, a virgin, my brain is broken with ADHD and bipolar disorder. I still live with my parents. I had to be practically given a car. I'm a complete loser. I've lost more than half the years you've even been alive because of this shit and it wasn't even until just a few years ago I came to even understand why. I spend my days in a fog of temporal myopia. The sands of time slip through my fingers, but nothing that I really want to do gets accomplished. The embers of my dreams dwindle away slowly as the days, weeks, and months pass as smoke. Yet somehow, under the crushing burden of my problems and all my self hatred, I still manage to be less of a grating, whiny faggot than you. Join the club, pal. Take a number, get your T-shirt, siddown and sybau.

>>7870343
Actually, I'll tell you why I'm different than you. I'm actually trying to solve my problems rather than just pissing and moaning about it. It's slow, unbearably slow, and frustrating as FUCK with my brain being the busted piece of shit jalopy that it is and having to untangle a lifetime of bad habits. But I can say despite the ups and mostly-downs, I am just ever so slightly better off than I was before and that gives me *some* hope. All you ever do is post the exact same stupid ass thread looking for buttpats and giving you more reasons to feel sorry for yourself. If you don't have the will to live, then you're just going to die, simple as that. I know firsthand that willpower and doing things aren't straightforward as the normoid believes it to be, for with their mostly functional brains they foolishly believe that to will and to do are solely within their sovereignty, not realizing that their wills are at the mercy of their irrational carnality and causality, and that their power to do is limited, just as mine is. Yet if the want to do actually resides within you, you will eventually do so when the power of will comes to you. It's much harder for me, but not impossible. There are ways around these limitations, be they slow or agonizing, yet they are there still. Maybe you won't get as far as a normalfag, you may walk and never leave the desert before you die, but at least you did not die standing still. Venting might be cathartic and all, God knows I've done it, but to just spam the same thing over and over with no actual desire for improvement is pathetic.

>>7870277
just do 2d shapes without perspective or very simplified ones

>>7870343
31 and a virgin is rough but i've never even talked with a girl yet so i guess i cant complain

Post your work pretty please.

>>7870072
You're right. You'll never be an artists. It's too late and you should quit before humiliating yourself any further
Next thread, please

>>7870072
>he thinks early 20s is old

>>7870449
Honestly? It is. If you didn't autistically drew during your teens, you won't be able to make it very far starting late. Let alone compete with the 15 year old da Vincis posting art nowadays.

>>7870453
>>7870449
OP here.
My thoughts exaxctly.
Its a pretty old age for a lot of other things too. I would like to be able to draw for a living(LOL ludicrous statment) but i have drawn probably less than 20 hours total across my lifetime .

>>7870072
>give me the permission to draw: the autistic thread

>>7870478
Sorry

>>7870072
If you think you are too late to learn something, then you don’t really like that thing. You just want to have the thought of being an artist instead of doing it. A lot of artist learn late, it doesn’t fucking matter if someone got a talent. We are all responsible for our own fate

>>7870502
I want to become an artist because i like the thought of being one.
It doesn't seem contradictory in the slightest.
I understand that a lot of people start late but i believe i'm doomed to fail because of my lack lf drive. I'd like to change that i just dont think i can.

>>7870502
There's also a lot of things i'd like to illustrate but that will never happen. Ever

>>7870277
Fuck Loomis.

Forget Loomis.

Go to the magazine section of your local supermarket. Look at the children's books,those not connected to movies or TV shows. No Loomis there. Just unique visual styles that editors liked enough to pay the artists. Find your Voice, your own style.

Start here.

https://youtu.be/1OSWR7xiQLk?si=rfhKEDIkCQbsKGx4

Repeat until you find something to expand upon, to explore, to make your own.

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Some examples.

>>7870072
This is your way of coping into not doing hard things. Learning things as an adult doesn't become "impossible," it just gets more frustrating because you're more self-conscious of your mistakes and you have lost your pain tolerance in doing mentally demanding tasks. The hardest part of learning anything new is just getting started.

The worst thing you can do is hold high expectations for yourself at the start or burning yourself out with fundie practice. You should be building your habit of drawing by drawing what interests you everyday while taking notes on what you want to improve, even if its for 5 or 10 minutes at the beginning. Also yes, your shit is going to suck but who cares? Everyone starts out by making chris chan sanic oc tier drawings.

>inb4 replies with even more self-loathing cope
Then don't fucking draw and shut the fuck up. Why even post here?

>>7870735
>>7871232
Deviantart has a bad rep but I've found tons of artists with really pleasant styles despite noticeably poor fundamentals. You can really tell the difference between an artist who has fun vs the soulless fundie grinder.

>>7870072
I learned how to draw in my 30s and basically: fuck you. It's not about age that keeps you from getting better. It's you who's doing it.

>>7871291
You don't "need" what you call Fundamentals, really. You just need a market to pitch your art to.

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>>7870470
You're legit mentally challenged if you believe this
Most people dont start their respective careers and earning serious money until they're in their early 30s, 21 is literally the perfect time to start drawing everyday and millions probably wish they were in your position when they were your age
Or maybe you're righg, don't start drawing since you genuinely seem mentally retarded and believe it or not art requires some level of innate intelligence

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>>7870072
jannies will let this garbage stay up but remove relevant threads.

>>7872157
I actually posted my work. Something you will never do. Cope.
>>7872064
I might unironically be...
Idk i feel like i just need some encouragement to set me on the right track.
I want to learn it.
I'll try my best tomorrow...

>>7870072
Someone should make a Financial Audit type show but with permabegs refusing to draw

Still hadnt drawn but i'll get to it any moment now. I'm pretty determined to do it

>not a couple million in the bank, Zorn tier painting ability, 8 inch dick, 6'5 barefoot and bald and famous before the age of 17
not going to make it might as well ACK yourself right NOW

>>7870343
You're the same kind of guy that posts his descriptive writing exercises under Youtube music videos.

>>7870343
turning 28 soon and kiss-less virgin. autism is one hell of a debuff and I didn't even get the cool kind of autism where you are super smart and focused, I got the kind where you have learning disabilities and don't learn to read or do basic math until middle school and then spend the rest of your life feeling miserable and like a failure because everything seems 10x harder for you than for normal people so you learn to give up on everything hard instantly because you have never had a real win where your hard work has paid off in your entire life and now I'm just a sad pathetic creature with less drive than a slug spending more time living in fantasy in my own head than in reality.

>>7875491
Okay but do you draw?

>>7875291
I have 8'5 inch dick but i havent been hard in years because of depression.

>>7870072
Only time I seem to get motivation is when the weekend is over and I am on the last few hours before work. All of sudden Ideas come to me and I get a feeling I know what to do

>>7870072
bro? you're only 21? just keep practicing?
you know people can live til like 100
stop demoralizing yourself and shitting up the board for no reason

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>>7872453
If you want encouragement I'll you this, if you reach success as a visual artist you pretty much won in all of your possible lives, it's akin to Saitama become a "true" superhero, everyone loves and needs art and artists similar to superheroes in OPM and yet despite that you're constantly on the backfoot trying to prove your worth to people
It's not eady, its high risk but definitely highest reward as far as life satisfaction goes
If you manage to find success similar to someone like Leyendecker, earning good enough money and influencing millions of people, you just granted yourself the permission to die a happy man

>>7870322
And I wish you were dead.

Today is the day...

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...to bump the thread?

Do you exercise regularly and eat well? You'd be surprised how much more energy you have to do shit if you're not a fat slob who goes out of breath just from lifting a pencil.

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there's no way this isn't just some nigger repeating some other dudes thread over and over like a loon over the years
if OP was actually the same person, he'd have shat out another abomination of an unfinished sketch to cry about
of course /ic/ is a dead husk and nobody sages and the jannies don't care about it so here we are

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>>7870343
>>7875491
>artwork/critique
>mentions virginity
Being a virgin has nothing to do with drawing. Stop begging for attention with unwarranted bullshit

TWENTY ONE IS NOT OLD YOU MOTHERFUCKER

>>7870072
NGMI mindset exhibit #238,095.
If you can’t just have fun drawing and improving and instead see it as an awful grind it never began for you. Those who work hard can never surpass those who just enjoy it

>>7883878
there are schizos and then there are people who can't even be real schizos so they copy other schizos. Its sad, really.

>>7883878
Fuck you favor you’re the one who goes around discouraging people.

>>7870343
Anon I know this is going to sound crazy and strange but you NEED to do a bunch of drugs and wake yourself up. You are the perfect type of human for it, don't listen to the doctors or the mystics or whatever, none of its important and you need to become a fully realized character.
>which drugs?
all of them. start with whippits

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>>7870072
I don't know if you're real or not but 21 is baby aged. I had these thoughts of thinking I was "too old" at fucking 19 and now I'm 27. All that wasted time, for what? Self pity? Fear of fucking it up at an "old" age?

OP just go for it desu. You are very young.

>>7883878
I'm OP. I can shit out another one rn if you'd like. Gimme a topic and or refrence.

>>7883869
I'm 100lbs and sleep 18 hours a day outside of when i have something to do. Last such occasion were the midterms a month ago.

I also walk 10km a day to burn off anxiety.

>>7885396
>100lbs
90% of the world population could pin you down right now and violently rape you how do you feel about this information?

>>7885476
I spent my life being weaker than most people. I believe thats how most women feel too. Thankfully im not a tard and run fast.

How is it related to illustration in any way though?

>>7885476
lost

>>7885396
Walking is good! Though I'm thinking a more rounded fitness program could do you good, maybe you could do yoga or something. Myself, I do calisthenics. I can recommend, it may be a bit boring but it has a low barrier and you can just do it at home.
I used to be all about the walking, and sometimes dabbled with things like badminton, but I don't think it was quite enough. I started feeling (and looking) way better when I started training in a more focused way.

>>7885394
a man standing holding up a vase above his shoulders

>>7870072
The only time is now. You’re 21 which means you’re basically a large child. You are too young to feel this way, you have 4 years before your brain develops and you actually become responsible for the outcome of the remainder of your existence.

The horrors of mortality hit around 30 when you start to see the people will spend their whole life at a bar achieving nothing but cirrhosis. If you are capable of doing anything other than drinking and watching black men throw a leather ball, you’re already more interesting than the majority of people.