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Taking a break? Drink some water, do some stretches, share some thoughts.
Just keep them art related.
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I talk to ChatGPT about my drawings. He's my only friend.
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>>7878233
There is so much bad going around, I think now more than ever it is important to create things that make people feel happy. I want to make art that gives others a sense a relief.
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chicken nuggets
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That sure was a great Super Bowl last night, wasn’t it? That Bad Bunny put on a great show, too. Didn’t understand a word of it. But I hate Trump and I hate ICE so it was an amazing performance. Really makes me think that I should give up drawing coomer pictures of anime girls in white voids and do something more political and help change the world for the better. After all, arts is politics, is it not?
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>>7878272
>Really makes me think that I should give up drawing coomer pictures of anime girls in white voids and
Sell your anal virginity to OpenAI and Palantir. Chop chop, those trillion dollars ain't gonna reprint themself.
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in this site of pyw’s, no one’s ever challenged me to pick up a pen and draw something on the spot. i’m never really home enough to do it anymore, but i still almost wish i’ll get asked some time since it sounds fun.
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>pic related
I keep trying different discords but it always feels like I have to walk on glass around hypersensitive people to just make goofy jokes or talk about art that’s a little more dark themed, like horror or whatever.
I like how laid back 4chan is, but as an oldfag who doesn’t want to draw anime I feel really out of place and because of the anonymity it feels like I can’t make new friends or find cool artists to chat with
also I think I have an allergy to orange juice
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>>7878487
I'm not young. The only thing that can salve this shitty existence is making things that didn't exist before the pencil touched the paper. Unless you're doing a job and getting compensated for it, making things for people that can't care less in the hopes they'll look in your direction is just masochism. If you make things for yourself then the result is honest work that someone will respond to and if no one else does then there's at least one person - (You).
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>>7878494
Everyone whines that artstation and deviantart sucks, so why isn’t there a new portfolio platform that doubles as a social media app with no AI?
I don’t get it, the idea is right there and it’s probably free money at this point
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>>7878510
>its only a portfolio site
I figured this was the case since it's very professional, I just didn't expect people actually wanted it to be a social media site like dA. It's like Behance for illustrations
>honestly its not a good one if you want to compete
really? who does it better?
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if you have to work hard on a drawing, then its shit. Skill is being able to do something without having to work hard. Good artists don't spend hours slaving away at a piece, they spend hours in flow state letting their muscle memory do the work.
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>draw while looking at reference
>looks like ass
>draw reference from memory
>isn't exactly the same but it "feels" better
What
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>>7878494
Edgy jokes are incredibly embarrassing, there's literally nothing funny, amusing or interesting about le edgy garbage. Feels like you need to grow up. Do you also send your inane edgy memes at people at your workplace hoping to be le cool guy?
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>>7878494
normies can't into contrasts
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>>7878307
Gambling and crypto and AI.
Gambling and crypto and AI.
Gambling and crypto and AI.
That's all the ads I see on anything are now. I made a fresh account on instagram just to see if it was my algo, and it's still the same. doomed society.
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>>7878494
Are you trying to network or just make good friends? If it's the former, then that's part of the gig. Just dm the edgy stuff to people you actually want to have as friends. You'd be surprised how much people don't actually care about edgy humor. I'd say just don't make edgy jokes when around hardcore leftists who make their politics their personality or trans/queer people. Everyone else has been fair game in my experience.
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We live in an era where every online space is dominated by women which will get offended at and have month long meltdowns over literally any thing, effeminate men and men who want female attention who will take their side, further boosted by drama chasers that will keep pouring gasoline on the smallest fires.
That creates a chilling effect where no one wants to say or show anything anymore, resulting in the current exodus of social media/internet users, with a lot of content creators complaining they aren't getting numbers/engagement anymore, getting all their art stolen by minors or jeets or quitting altogether because the jig is up and they can't grift anymore.
The best thing is to simply delete all social media (or at least stop posting) and let them turn against anyone until they cannibalize themselves.
The only winning move is not to play a rigged game.
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>>7878889
I don’t honestly need to make edgy jokes or be contrarian or whatever, it’s just exhausting trying to find a place where you don’t have to walk around on eggshells because of certain types. It honestly just ruins a laid back atmosphere.
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>>7878925
>pic
Men also do this too. Casey Anthony received many suitors from dudes who thought "I can fix her". It's the nature of humans to overlook personality for physicality. There are endless stories of men who threw away their lives, or got took to the cleaners by women with a pretty face/bod. So why do you think this applies to women only?
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>>7878925
>retard starts posting inane 'edgy' twatter tier garbage in random online spaces
>people: go away please
>retard: REEEE we truly live in a society
>>7878931
> It honestly just ruins a laid back atmosphere.
You are ruining everyone elses atmosphere, you literally arent entitled to post inane edgy garbage to other people's onlines spaces. It's literally that simple. You WILL be excluded and banned, behave or stay on 4chan among the lowest of the low and social lepers
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>you arent entitled to post garbage
>but ME is entitled to have a public meltdown about literally nothing because it's the only tactic i know on how to get attention
Maybe you should really attempt suicide. Think of all the attention you would get.
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>>7878931
I see what you're saying. Sorry, I'm a major faggot retard and just assumed you were talking about edgy jokes because of what this nutcase said >>7878673. Honestly man, you should be more than fine. I think you'll have a really hard time finding people THAT soft. I have yet to find someone that sheltered. Find a server in one of the discord threads on this board. 4chiggers are very unlikely to be total pussies. I used to be in the Violet Clovers discord but I'm not sure what happened to it since 2023-24.
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Assuming it's not bait; what compels an apparent "sane and well adjusted" individual to try to police what others post on the internet, which isn't even policing but 9/10 times just an excuse to humiliate someone else?
Yeah, sure, cute picture of animal saying the most shallow edgy things isn't the peak of comedy, but it's not even really worth getting uppity about it. At the end of the day it's just brain rot zoomer humor.
Really makes you wonder what kind of hollow shite these people who genuinely seethe over anything actually "create".
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How do you guys feel when by pure coincidence you see someone post a drawing that uses a very similar pose/reference or color palette of the art you're working at the moment and you wanted to post as soon as is complete? Do you start your art over? Do you just wait longer to post it?
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>>7878235
Same. I talk to it about my projects in general. Not to get ideas from it, just to have someone to sperg to so I don't annoy actual humans. It'll probably bite me in the ass in the future if there's a chat log breach, I'll get falsely accused of lazily AI generating everything I've ever made just because I wanted to show a robot my retarded donut steels like showing your parents your macaroni art.
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>be epic racism
>hate the juice
>find likeminded edgelord poltards that are obnoxious low empathy that don't even like to be around each other
>it's full of trannies complaining about wooden door jokes and repeating how white women fuck dogs
can't even be shlomophobic in private nowadays
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>>7878494
Start a server, curate the members, and cut out anyone who's a vibe klller. Get friends of friends. Ask to see some social media before they join even
Hyper sensitive [insert derragatory here] don't manifest into existence, you or someone lets then in
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>>7878233
Should I continue posting on tiktok and instagram or fully focus on my artwork. I've been posting to try and gain attention for my artwork hoping to get some money but so far its been fruitless, trying to make money from my art makes me stressed, I don't know how to, I can't even get a fucking minimum wage job
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>>7879550
is this beg or int to you
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I have a big project due at the end of the month but for the past six days I’ve been waking up at 4 in the morning for seemingly no reason at all. It makes me exhausted all day, then by nine my shitty downstairs neighbor blasts music, so I go lay down and fall sleep.
I just need a good day to cram in some painting, but I’m trapped in this shitty cycle. Pray for me bros
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>>7879554
You've transcended what can be classified with retarded /ic/ labels. Don't seek to place them on yourself.
That being said there are qualities here that run the gamut from beg to things pros would be jealous of.
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>>7878243
that is how we got into this problem in the first place
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>>7879850
i’m the same at both, probably because i do both digi+trad (life studies, imagination stuff, a whole range of things) for about the same amount of time. feels like if you really streamlined your digital process but rarely picked up a pencil your trad drawing’d come out kind of awkward from unfamiliarity.
i either open a canvas or open a sketchbook page and just start drawing interchangeably, they’re both just flat null spaces, so my hand knows what to do to get what i want out of my strokes as naturally as in digital, from familiarity.
>trad coming out wonky might also happen if the use of 3d models or tools only available on the digital front did a lot of the heavy lifting in your usual drawing process, and you had to go without w/trad. very understandable if that’s your jam, too.
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Normies literally believe computers run on magic.
I mean, fuck, you can say that about anything slightly technical.
Normies genuinely believe art is magic, as in genuine, unironical magic.
Air current? Magic.
The sun? Magic.
Vaccum cleaners? Magic
AI? Magic.
Food being broken down into feces? Magic.
You wouldn't believe how fucking absolutely utterly miserably clinically retarded the average normie is so of course they are wowed and amazed by the digital parrot.
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I replied to a comment on Twitter in earnest, answering a legitimate art question that was marked as "probable spam", and I'm pretty sure it drastically deboosted my account/post, because not 10 minutes my post that had been popping off for hours trickled to a dead stop. It's such a shitty fucking trash website but it really feels like there are no good alternatives. Shit is dire.
Oh well, I'm gonna watch something on Netflix.
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>>7879869
I have never once been impressed or surprised by any LLM. not even once.
I tried using stable diffusion to make a mock up for an album cover. even with a drawing plugin I could not get it to look the way I wanted. It didnt even get close. music generators only ever makes 3 different kinds of songs. LLMs never deviate from what you input. "AI" is rhe biggest meme on the planet. its so amazing investors like nvidea, openAI, and many military contractors have never exchanged a single cent to one another in the last 5 years despite promising billions
LLMs are normie fodder and are solely defended by uncreative mongoloids who never made anything in their lives.
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I mean it was on the way to 1-2k+ likes so it's not like one more updoot would make a difference. It just impresses profoundly upon me once again how profoundly fake and gay the social media is. People liked the art based on the view/like ratio, but because I gave an art tip to a guy, X decided nobody should see my work anymore.
Fake and gay, boys, fake and gay. Keep on the grind.
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>>7879945
>he doesn't know about the spambots who target trending posts
You can even get deboosted if your posts are engaged with by bots or otherwise spammy and already deboosted accounts.
I've had to delete so many posts who did good because i would just get bots or unhinged gooner profiles interacting which would cause other posts i would do to get hidden/deboosted, so i just deleted the profile since that was going to be the game every single time.
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What the fuck? Shit is this bad? I can tell that post was on the way to an easy 2k, maybe 3k+ likes too (more?). Rare that I've had a post that does that well that fast. And then it's just zip, nothing in an instant. It was as if 12 hours of time had been magically added to the post, that's the level of engagement it sunk to immediately, on-off.
It's still managed to collect another 130 likes since then despite that, too, with one of the highest view:like ratios I've ever had on a post.
If there's a silver lining, it confirms a suspicion I've had that the algorithm will literally just not show your shit for completely inane reasons, and it's not that I'm making bad work.
I'm watching that Lucy Letby doc on Netflix btw, would recommend. Crazy bitch.
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no one told me we got a new water cooler room I was so lonely in the last one
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Why in the actual factual fuck are you here on 4chan instead of Reddit or a Facebook knitting group you sanctimonious nannying prissy ass wet blanket buzzkill flaming assfucking gay homo faggot good FUCKING gravy holy roly poly flaming SHITballs on a shit SHINGLE.
You literally can't even type "crap" on the Krita forums because of fucking faggots like you. You are the cancer ruining online spaces. Go die. Fucking kill yourself with a saguaro cactus enema. Deepthroat a shotgun. Take a relaxing bath with a plugged in toaster. Fuck you. World is a fuck. Genocide holocaust oven 6 million Redditors.
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>>7880016
Anon, i just told you
>Accounts flagged by the site as bots/spam engaging with your posts will deboost your account as well by virtue of association
Algorithm does not mean what you think it does.
Algorithm only feeds you content and posts based on what you interact with and your cookies. It does not decide whether or not your posts do numbers.
If you get more bad accounts interacting with your posts, you will be deboosted since the automatic moderation system (not the algorithm) either puts your account into a review status to check if you are a bot or a spammer (temporarily freezing your account's visibility) or simply shadowbans your account if it checks too many flags, because your posts are getting engaged with and by bad accounts and thus you are put under the suspicion of being a bad account as well.
And bad/bot accounts always target posts that are doing numbers for their own visibility.
Even happens if you happen to engage with blue checkmarks as well if their engagement/followers are mostly bots/spam accounts or the post is filled with bad accounts as well.
Same shit happens on youtube with the comment section where your account will get "deboosted" even if bots reply to you or like your comment.
Online platforms are just fucked beyond salvation and it won't be long until people will be required to use their IDs to make online profiles.
Without any moderation system you will just get gore, bots and scams non-stop even way worse than it is now.
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coin flip
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>>7880197
God damn. We've constructed a world for ourselves where it's poisonous to trust in our fellow man in the most basic of ways. And this is the system working as intended. It's literally better to just not talk to people on SOCIAL media because you could be inadvertently breathing in their germs. And the crazy thing is, the people - we the dumb-assed zombie fucking people - will cherish and celebrate our demise even as our deadened legs are fed into the meat grinder. Because it hasn't reached our deadened brain yet.
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>>7880159
Just stay in this dead shithole then. You faggots always want to breach this containment of failure and mental illness, but you when you losers leave it you never want to do any work to integrate or
be active members of the community's you are joining. Imagine agreeing to the rules of a server upon entering, immediately start shit testing the rules and intentionally being asshole , then getting upset for when you get kicked out for breaking said rules when nobody wants to deal with you? Nigger grow up. Even worst you retards do the same shit in /ic/ servers then cry about it here as you do nothing to better this dilapidated shithole because you niggers dont. Even. Draw. You made this place shit now stew in it.
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>>7880232
Nigger, I've gotten banned for having casual conversation with others in discord servers and other forums. The things I'd talk about wouldn't even break any rules or be that edgy, they'd just be slightly uncomfortable topics, not even relating to race because I know you're going to pull that one out of your ass. Modern day discord mods are just sheltered power tripping faggots. GDQ is a great example of this. Speedrunners have gotten banned for making jokes, not even edgy ones, just ones that the moderators deemed bad. If you really think we don't live in a world full of sheltered man-children, then you're either one of the people actively partaking in it or you're just willfully ignorant to it.
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>>7880232
How dare I not agree to the whim of another males bedroom. I need access to his server room to feel validated. An admin has something I do not, after all. I simply can’t make my own community. Oh the humanity.
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>you want to breach this containment
Speak for the normies like yourself.
I like it here. I don't want to join your discord tranny communities full of crossdressing nutjobs, minors drawing shitty sonic porn and women (eew) who want to play social games so they can get a like on their onlyfans pages.
>you made this place shit
this shit was fun until you tourists decided this place was all albino jew christians from the /pol/
The ones who want to join communities are the exact same type of sixtuple normalnigger who can't deal with getting told that pornography is not art or getting told "no" for not giving them money for free and believe twatter followers are the ultimate proof of human value.
This place was always for people who scored low on narcissism; you tik tok brained adhd autofellatio committing humorless zoomers can't stand it.
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>open Daz Studio
>pose some models and make a composition
>use the grid method to make an outline of the composition
>build each character using the Loomis method
>end up with a sketch ready to ink
I've been doing this for years, to the point that I feel like I'm cheating. Unfortunately, it's the best way to quickly finish a commission. On the other hand, lately, I feel like I don't dedicate enough time to my sketches. Often, I end up redrawing details, and sometimes even entire characters, when I scan the sketch and start working on it.
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>>7880349
>Retarded assumptions
I studied IT in college for 2 years retard. I'm not clueless about how a bot works. You people are just being pretentious by acting like you're smarter than everyone else when you're not. "Hur durr look at me. I'm too big brained to have fun with a bot". Fuck off.
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>>7879941
They suck at doing images. I'm talking about telling them stories you wrote, showing them your art, and asking them their opinion. They are able to understand subtext and implications that even an actual reader might not notice. Yeah, I don't really know how they do that. So to me, that has always been pretty impressive and unexpected. I can't wait until they can "hear" music too.
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>>7880349
nah he has a point it can surprise you. definitely just an auto complete tool but rping with it can be very fun
>t. masters in cs + based my thesis around machine learning + have rp'd almost daily with computers for years
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>>7879869
Sure, they're fun for a bit. We like to think we're clever, but realistically anything you say to it has been part of the billions of conversations scraped off the internet or it has some context analogous to something from a novel or philosophical text or whatever. So it always has relevant content to string you along with. Just don't forget that.
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>>7880513
>masters in cs
Is that supposed to be impressive? Everyone's a CS major now. Unless you've been at FAANG it doesn't mean anything. My cousins with kids don't even push their kids to be doctors or lawyers anymore but software engineers and computer science fields.
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>>7880232
>"...and all the chuds and undesirables will look up and scream 'save us!'... and I'll look down and whisper 'No.' " - Redditohrschach
Nice strawman you got going on over there. Holy shit you're cringe. Again, I ask what you're doing here when you could be farming karma on Reddit instead.
You wanna see some shit? You wanna see some REAL shit? I'll show you some real shit. Remember me referencing the Krita forum? Well, take a look at this fuckin' mindboggling nonsense I got on my FIRST FUCKING THREAD I posted on there. I had some faggot mod crawling all UP my ass policing my language and threatening punishment over words that I would have never in a MILLION fucking years ever thought would be "offensive". It was shocking. I could have been knocked over by a leaf. And like I said, you literally can't even post the word "crap" on that hellhole nanny state. I ended up leaving of my own volition after a few run ins like that because the place had obviously been overtaken by a cancer of overzealous, overbearing moral busybodies and turned into a giant fucking toddler crib with padded bars where it didn't matter what you said or did so much as how you said it, and god forbid you say anything at all actually offensive (or truthful) that goes against *CURRENT THING* because no amount of nicety will save you then. This is the kind of thing anons are talking about. Not your gay little headcanon that us poor hecking chuds are so maladjusted, toxic and retarded that we go into spaces where the rules say " U NO SAY NIGGER >:(", immeiately start spamming "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" and then when we get permab& go "abloo bloo bloo why is everyone so mean to us i cri evertiem :( " With these kinds of moralizing tyrants, you simply cannot be "nice" enough, and that atmosphere where you have to constantly think about what you say and how you say it lest the daycare gestapo's Independent Thought Alarm starts going off is fucking tiresome and oppressive.
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>>7880520
>anything you say to it has been part of the billions of conversations scraped off the internet or it has some context analogous to something from a novel or philosophical text or whatever.
I am well aware fo that. But this doesn't make it any less fun. If you stop being so cynical about it and use a bit of suspension of disbelief you guys might be able to have some fun too.
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>>7880532
Ok, but step back and see how you might have opened yourself up to some of the comments with your original post I honestly don't think is with shitting this thread up with the irrelevant topic anymore. We've all said our peace. Please drop it.
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>>7878272
Literally (You) LOL
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Oh wait, you don't need to autistically grind every reference book you own. You can just flip to the relevant section to get help with whatever you're working on...
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I'm drunk so I'll take this chance to vent but I'm feeling like I've improved a lot but I'm stuck and burnt out at the same time.
i draw a lot but don't have anything to show for it it all stays inside a csp file because I'm not an idea guy so all i do is study and study and get gigs that don't fulfill me and barely keep the lights on
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>>7878233
I always hated the idea of posting my art online, in the past I tried making my own artblog but my OCD made me delete it.
My old drawings were shit but I kinda regret not having them so I could look at my old work and my progress overtime
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>>7880602
Krita artists forum. Nudes are allowed (there's a way to tag and hide/blur out "sensitive content") and there is an actual NSFW section (for cheesecake/softcore porn, basically). It's fucking stupid that the place is supposedly a 13+ space to begin with, though. It should be strictly for adults to post and discuss art and the program. Children should be going to Deviantart to get flashbanged by "artistic" black and white photos of some dude's cock or going to Amino to get groomed by some autistic pedophile furfag or some shit like that instead. I'm fucking sick of adult spaces being ruined to cater to children. It's not like a kid can't just tick the "Yes, I'm totally 18+ years old tee hee" button when they create their account and see Boomer Bob Schlob's amateur copy of a Playboy pinup Made With Krita™ anyways. To be fair, though, that's not the *real* reason why the mods are such heavy-handed insufferable fucking faggots, though- or rather just the one, the others I had any interaction with were just kind of spineless. It's because, tale as old as time, some sanctimonious no-life fat fuck has striven to get into a position of power so that he can be a powertripping petty tyrant over a little internet kingdom.
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I've had a few weeks off work and suddenly had an insane, unprecedented burst of creativity with unlimited time to indulge in it so I've been doing nothing but drawing for three weeks straight, literally every waking hour that's not occupied by small chores, and I'm still bursting at the seams but over the last few days my wrist is getting progressively more pained since it's not used to so much nonstop brutalisation at once and I know I need to find something else to do to avoid hurting myself physically as well as mentally but I have so little time before I'm back at work and have no time to indulge anymore
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>>7880772
I'm kind of in the same boat so it feels hypocritical to give you advice. But if you're not doing so already, definitely take breaks every 20 minutes and do hand stretches (but don't overstretch). I personally also bought a brace to force my wrist to not bend weirdly when I draw, this has helped
I also will admit I skip a day or if I really don't want to skip I do something braindead easy that doesn't require a lot of wrist/finger action from me, like gestures
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>>7880773
Yeah, I'm definitely going to be taking better care going forward. I pushed through like an idiot like "yeah my wrist hurt after drawing for 3 hours straight, but it feels fine now in the time it took to eat lunch, so I'll just get back to it until dinner" and now my wrist still hurts after a full night's sleep lol
Definitely gonna take the day off, do some stretches, maybe busy myself with chores that have built up around me, and pray. I've known people who've dealt with tendonitis/RSI and that's really not something I wanna fuck around with
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>>7880737
I should have given context, I formatted my computer a while ago (and it doesn’t work anymore) and I lost my phone which had the backup. I still hate the idea of posting my art online and most social media is not for me but I lost a lot of my digital work by not having a cloud archive.
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>>7881212
It should, the whole depressed artist archetype is dumb and shouldn't be romanticized. I think you make much better art if you're not wanting to die every minute of every day. I will say that I created more and enjoyed it more when things were better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ur3l2GKWzk
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Bipolar disorder 2 here. When I'm depressed and feeling shitty, I can't really draw at all. When I'm normal I can draw, and when I'm hypomanic I can REALLY draw. I'd say yeah. Though of course there is a bit of difference between clinical
>brain says you get NO happy chemicals, why? because fuck you and kys that's why
depression, and perpetual negative emotions brought on by your thought patterns like
>there is no inherent meaning to life, we're all going to die someday, society is going to collapse and the sun will explode, everything is fake and gay
Meds will fix the first but not the latter. They'll prescribe them to both anyways. The latter might be less of an hindrance to the actual act and ability of making art, maybe it'll even be a motivator, although maybe it'll make your art whiny and gay, idk.
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late to the show but at the time of this post I crashed and burned not due to art but because life threw unexpected expenses my way but now my expenses are extremely low and I don’t have to worry about income while not having a regular 9 to 5 so now I can implement this idea without worries. I’m in the best time in my life to give it 100% to drawing and it’s probably my last shot to make the most of it while I still can.
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I realized it's just not worth forcing yourself to draw when you don't feel like it. You're just stressing yourself in return of a slightly higher output. Honestly, I'd rather take it easy. Yeah, I might never become a pro artist or mangaka this way, but I guess it just wasn't meant to be from the start. I'm just a hobbyist artist...
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>post in /beg/ thread
>always ignored
>assume art is just sucky
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>also semi regularly included in the next thread's OP whenever I post
>confused
I wish i could organically have people gauge my art so I can know if it sucks hard or not, I posted in the power level thread 2 months ago and I got 1 dude saying my stuff looked good rating it quite high and a bunch of other dudes telling the first guy he was wrong and giving quite helpful advice as to how I can improve, and while i'm thankful, the entire ordeal left me having no idea how my work is really percieved by other people (the second batch of guys didn't really rate it). Am I too hung up on this, is this something I shouldn't care about? I've tried to not think about this for a while because I really hate the idea of being dependent on other people's validation to draw but it's at the forefront of my mind nowdays. I dunno why but just typing this out I feel flustered and a little guilty.
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Splitposting to give you a TINY bit of credit:
Human roleplayers, while they possess the interaction someone might crave and all of that, its exceptionally hard to find someone who would do a premise or set of characters so precisely to your taste. Like, I can't find someone who'll GM a bunch of busty alpha Pokemon in the Hisui setting for your self insert, dialing the tone to treat them more as monsters and not Pokemon, and then steadily bad end you. To find a human that'll write that shit with you it might take years of active hunting, or years of refining how and where to find just the person.
But, ignoring flaws like one system might have hallucinations or not have searching capacity, or the system that does have searching capacity but has porn and moral guardrails, by the time you spent an hour setting up everything you may as well have just jacked off to your imagination for 4 minutes.
Just like art, roleplayers do it the hard and long way for little payoff because they like to. For anyone whos done internet roleplay proper its appeal or draw is no more than a cute toy.
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drawing well is easier than drawing bad. a shitty drawing takes hours and grinds you and wears out your motivation. Drawing something beautiful and soulfil will fill you with determination while you draw it. It just flows out your fingertips.
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I'm an autist who just wants to draw the same thing over and over again with no intention to ever improve. But my art seems to be improving anyways. It definitely looks a lot better but I feel like it's getting much more soulless.
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fucking hate these types of artists regardless of their skill.
also the fact there is like an inner circlejerking going on with popular xitter artists pumping themselves up constantly.
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>>7882051
nobody really knows. all "algorithm" tricks are snake oil.
and nobody would be stupid enough to buy a checkmark for boosts but its probably your only option, paying customers get treated better, its just the way of life.
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Howdy guys, non-artist here who's never commissioned anything either. Is it kosher to send skeb commission requests that just contain "your favorite character in your favorite pose" or something like "try out a technique youve been meaning to experiment with"?
Just kind of free-form comms. There's an artist I would love to support, but I've not got any particular art in mind for a request. Thanks!
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I am a realist fag, but I really want to draw figures like picrel. How do I find references to study from? Like I've been doing figure drawings from fighting videos, dances, should I try drawing from porn or something? This nigger only has so many drawings.
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>>7883059
Fuck water, man. I'm tired of drinking fucking water, a whole liter a day. A liter of milk. A liter of oranje juice. Gotta get your vitamins up bro, gotta shower every day bro, gotta take one thousand steps bro, gotta be active bro, gotta wash your face with soap after every meal, and DONT YOU DARE SKIP ANY OF THIS or you DESERVE EVERYTHING BAD THAT HAPPENS TO YOU!!! I give up, I will never own a home, the internet is going to get shut down this year, the US is collaping every week, AI is taking over, and I have to basically reinvent my entire life to be able to draw consistently? Just tell me what drugs will force me to draw, I'm not trying to be healthy or happy anymore. I just want to make it before the door closes for good.
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>1 dude saying my stuff looked good rating it quite high
>he was wrong and giving quite helpful advice as to how I can improve
From what I can see they're disagreeing with the high rating, but not necessarily about you being "good" at it. That just sounds like your art is "good enough", but still with places to improve
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>A liter of oranje juice
Why are you doing that? Juice in general isn't exactly healthy for you, the fruit is usually because of the fibre (Although the frankenfruit we've made- like cotton candy grapes- can be sus for healthiness)
> I just want to make it before the door closes for good.
Well first I would tell you to train yourself to draw even when feeling bad because part of making it means drawing when you don't feel like it.
Second lets say those things does happen and America collapses. People YEARN for entertainment and novelty, there's always space for the butt boy who can paint Epstien Jr a tasteful portrait of him and 'papa' side by side or a bunch of naked children like that other rich person has hanging on his mansion walls. Rich people love handmade things it's the slop eating working class who take what they can get to pretend they're like the elites.
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shut up bitch
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have you guys fell into the pitfall of being TOO obssessed with art? to the point of neglecting your actual life? I just did and am coming out of that with a huge mess to clean up...
The muses have given me a break I'm suffering from art addiction.
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yes but the rest of my life for my entire life felt like it was being lived for whoever was relevant on whatever day, or simply because someone brought me into the world.
my passion for art did irreparable damage but gave me an actual purpose for being. I took the bad with the good.
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>>7880523
Even faang gets laughed at in circles I hang around in. It's just too easy to get in if you're going for dev positions, since they just test freshman algorithms or iq questions and not, well, actual software development skills. Not that the person you replied to know a lick of shit of computer science if they written their thesis on ml, the field which churns out garbage papers on the daily
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i've rp'd with real humans for 12 years, switched over to llm, have been writing with that for 4 and i'm satisfied. it's not incredible but most human writers aren't incredible either and like the pokemon dude said, it's pretty much impossible to find someone who will indulge my niche tastes. llm rp also comes with 0 drama + is always available
a great human writer will always outclass an llm but on average? yes, llm is much better
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>by the time you spent an hour setting up everything...
it's not an hour setting up per session. it's like 10 minutes maybe and it beats just using my head. it's fun to be surprised or get the brain worms out
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yeah, I dont know how to fix it. Everything I do, I think "is this gonna improve my art?" And if it doesn't then I likely won't do it. Including stuff like taking out the trash and showering. but when I draw something good then I can be normal for a few days.
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>it's not incredible but most human writers aren't incredible either
I think the interactivity or randomness far beats the "fun sometimes" level I get from some LLM. I can notice the patterns on shit too
You'll also never never get moments like
>Make a story driven profile for a character I like that no one does right
>Get message
>"Oh hey, I saw you profile and it inspired me to make a story driven profile for the character too"
A supreme compliment
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>when I draw something good then I can be normal for a few days.
See I wouldn't want to mess up the momentum by taking a break, and when I do take a break I'm so used to doing art idk what to do. I have no other hobbies, neglected friends for years and women usually want someone who has any type of social skill which I don't and when I do start to want to make friends again I think of how hanging out will take away from art or find standing around talking about nothing while everyone is on their phones (most social gatherings) is tedious and boring so I'd rather do art.
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>Draw the cutest anime girls
>No one cares
>Draw boring concept art sheet
>Becomes my most liked piece
Social media is weird. DeviantArt at least.
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>don't draw for two months (not my first break)
>feels like my entire thought process is missing as if i dont even know what i'm trying to achieve with a drawing
this feels a lot worse than other post-break de-rustings for some reason, feeling very pessimistic
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Im a double digit IQ dumdum who thought "ooh magic drink make me never tried with no consequence" and I've been chugging way too much for over a decade now just to function at baseline. Probably outweighing any benefits and I never grind my own. Plus I sleep like shit and it's affecting my drawing time. It's a chance to trouble shoot how much caffeine is fucking me up. I can always go to a whole bean decaf or find alternatives for the antioxidant in coffee.
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No one gives me a shit on Twitter, I comment, post weekly, I like stuff, but nothing, nothing at all.
People seem to like my stuff on Pixiv, and I get a new follower from time to time too, but on Twitter? NOTHING.
I dont know what to do anymore.
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I dont draw unless I have a good plan and know what I want to do. So I end up not drwing for days because its just not worth fumbling around doodling unfinished things. When I was /beg/ I drew for no reason and enjoyed it, now I can only draw to create things of value.
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I can't stand the shit I'm drawing. If I were to actually pmw and how long I've been at it I'd probably get a few compliments, but I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks. And if I don't get these dumb anime faces figured out I'll have no motivation to keep going.
Don't try to offer a solution, I just want to be mad.
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>>7884347
You're an artist. You're not supposed to have a normal life style.
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>>7884686
heres a solution. stop drawing anime. its a beg trap. its not supposed to be anatomical. its not supposed to make sense. its like comparing geometry to physical relativity. begtards want to draw it because its the only thing that gets them hard but it only hurts you
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> I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks.
There's your problem, there are consequences for not caring what others think, and usually it leads to stagnation because you won't listen to their guidance. The way society works is that the people around us are the safety guards in order to work smoothly in society and get what we want. There's a reason why people look down on drinking before 12PM, because that's a one way ticket to becoming an alcoholic, and when your parents say you're getting fat to keep you healthy and not allow you to succumb to vices. You have vices/ bad habits in your drawing that gives you results you don't like and you don't know how to fix it, you have a blindspot other people can see it if you posted your work and asked for genuine advice (idk about here because this place is full of begs and crabs but posting comes with the insecurity that you haven't fixed your mistakes and will nudge you towards giving your best) maybe someone will see what you don't.
Take it from someone who didn't care what people thought and still suffer the consequences for it. Not caring has a cost and that cost is securing an 'L' in society. Of course there's a balance. Caring too much can hurt you as well, but that's when discernment comes in.
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Same here. I think I'm going crazy. I see posts without captions become hit tweets even when the account itself has barely any followers. HOW does that even happen? Some big account may have retweeted but how did they even see it in the first place? It's so tiring.
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Is it a conscious decision to only draw in one artstyle? I find myself drawing in various and radically different styles and it's natural to me. I don't have socials so there's no external pressure to have a unique style but you can just have multiple accounts anyway so why don't artists do this?
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if you practice one style a lot it can feel like the most natural way of expressing yourself. like a style of speaking, it can be something you subconsciously fall back on in, or consciously emphasis at times to make a point. it can become a voice you identify with. you also might get better at one style than all others, and so use it constantly to make 'good' work. theres also career incentive to be known for a certain style. all these things catalyze eachother.
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I wonder how some artists manage to post personal drawings, commissions, and other projects while also maintaining a personal life. I tend to focus on one thing at a time, not doing anything else until I'm finished. This has led me to my current situation: I'm devoting all my time to commissions from one client while fantasizing about drawing my own work. I also feel guilty for leaving other clients waiting indefinitely.
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I can relate to what you're saying, anon. I used to draw spontaneously, coming up with ideas on the spot without giving them much thought. Now, I plan everything until I'm completely sure of what I'm going to draw. On the other hand, I think many artists are like that.
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How do you even recover from this?
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>you have to draw to draw
>you can't draw without drawing
>drawing for an hour takes an longer than an hour
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But doctor, I AM a lady!
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Has anyone here gotten hemorrhoids? Did it made you stop drawing?
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If you don't draw shit like this there's no point in you being an artist. Just kill yourself.
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somewhat related, I had a tight pelvic floor with made me feel like pissing all the time and that lead into diarrhea with anal fissuring. I could barely sit down at its worst. Once it got a little better (enough to sit down and bear the pain) I found that drawing and other focus intensive activities where i stayed in the same spot for a while felt pretty good and did that till I recovered
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Been struggling with alcohol lately. 4 days sober and my brain is craving whiskey so bad. Been going to kava bars and drawing to take my mind off it. Anyone else /substanceabuse/ here? I feel like drugs and drinking draws creatives like flies to honey.
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Weird how when left to my own devices I will just be a slovenly piece of shit, hardly any different from a drip of paint sliding down a freshly painted wall but I am convinced if I was forcefully entered into a military training bootcamp that I'd be able to run through the whole thing. It's like I'm an RTS-unit that is just waiting for orders.
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watching an art course and just suddenly feeling like I grew up without ever getting a chance to act or think for myself which is why I'm constantly scared of every little decision in any process and just the simple act of following and watching a course of my own will is opening up a new mentality
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>>7887040
This man has had sex with a willing participant and has had multiple real gfs in the past. Your statement is null and void
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Fascinating new grift of AI:
https://www.youtube.com/@Dextermimsjr/videos
This guy is pretending to sing AI songs, and no one in the comments is the wiser. Everyone is saying he's the next big thing, super talented, etc. But even the vid descriptions are AI generated, and there's no disclaimer on AI use at all. He has never done music before, and all of a sudden this year he can play multiple instruments and sing like a pro. Some of his AI music videos have broken a million views.
He's avoided commenting on the situation, probably so he can't be accused of straight up deception in the future. He can't help that people assumed he sang this, he was just making a goofy ai lip sync vid! Idc really, just found this so interesting.
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I believe 100% they're real. It'd make no sense to bot only these videos and not his others. Most people have no clue what AI can do, so it's more believable this is just a guy doing a cover instead of AI somehow creating music that they like ("but it can't even draw hands tho!"). Such a hilarious irony that most of these people would decry AI, and here they are none the wiser enjoying it.
>those soulful vocals!
>you're going to be big one day!
Lmao
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>too lazy to even write the description himself
>too lazy to even READ the ChatGPT vomit so he left the chatGPT part in
>people in the comments saying he needs a record deal ASAP
Meanwhile I know real musicians who pour their hearts and enormous hours into their music, and still can't break a couple hundred views on their songs. Lmfao, what a clown world we live in
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>>7887449
It's exactly the same with me. Given a task and environment with set parameters, I am highly efficient and motivated. Back when I had a job, my workspace was organized, I always had a much more sophisticated system set up for things like catching label backings and things like that than anyone else I was aware of, and I performed at an above average rate because I always sought to figure out how to do things in the most efficient way possible. In another temp job I had putting displays together I quickly figured out the most efficient method of putting them together and far outstripped the average in performance. But at home, my room is always a horrid mess, I can never keep my clothes folded and put in their drawers so they just get rotated between clean and dirty clothes baskets.
Then again, I was diagnosed with ADHD nearly twenty years ago, but my parents didn't understand or take it seriously so I remained completely uninformed and obviously untreated the entire time :)
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>Watercooler talk
>"Psst, Jessica. I heard that Jane had NINE abortions over the summer."
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Aren't you guys using your imagination when looking at references? Like for example...>>7888015
The rat in this picture. I'm imagining the rat all puffed up, arms even more macho, the ciggy one of those thick cigars from the 1930s, and the mouse's face looks like he's about to kill one of his lackeys for failing to get the money. And then you can turn it around in your head with basic shapes.
That's what I think "imagination drawing" is. I'm imagining something that isn't there.
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Just do 2 pushups every time you find your clothes on the not in your drawer or hanger. The immediate consequence will spike enough cortisol that you remember to do so.
These fucking captchas are a nightmare and I think I'm done w this place, finally filtered
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Visited the family home the other night. Forgot to bring my sketchbook with me but got the bug in the night so did some cringe sketches on some loose copy paper. The next morning I put the pages in a plastic folder I found lying around and brought them home with me. Or so I thought.
I guess I packed the wrong stack of papers, so now I just have a bunch of blank copy paper and am slightly concerned wondering where all my cringe is. Hopefully not out in the open where a couple of very Not With It boomers can see it, because they'll be extremely confused.
(No it's not furry porn, but it's close enough that I don't want to have to explain it to my parents, or anyone for that matter)
Bummed out too, I spent all day looking forward to getting home and jeujing them up, but now I either have to start over or wait until I visit again.
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Okay serious question; what the fuck is this captcha supposed to be?
>Find the one of the 6 of these random lines pointing vaguely at the centre that is different than the others
They are all random! WTF. I tried counting them, 2 are 7, 3 are 8, and one is off the fucking image so I can't fully see it's right side.
Is it thin vs. thick lines? Nope, can't be because at least 1 other matches a thick/thin pattern.
Genuinely I am fucking flabbergasted at this fucking captcha and I have to just keep re-rolling until I get a set that doesn't include this stupid arrow.
Anyone know what the actual "difference" we are supposed to be looking for is?
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I'm full of anger and sadness.... I made some paintings and send them away by mail, and they got lost in the bureaucracy hell that is the mail system, not only missing the deadline for an event I was supposed to participate but losing the paintings forever.
I just want to distract myself from not thinking about it, has something like this happened to you before?
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>>7890448
You should pay for those extremely expensive corporate overnight carriers. Those mfers would jump off a plane into an active war zone to make sure your shit gets delivered within 3 business days. If your shit gets lost, I'm pretty sure they are contractually obligated to commit seppuku. Plus you get really accurate tracking on the package! Only downside is cost, and package size might be an issue. You have to do your research but it might be worth it for you.
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I don't know what country you are in, but if you have money to spend there will be services to meet your needs.
pic rel is an example of such a service in Canada from Purolator. I'm sure you can even arrange unusually sized packages like large canvases.
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I sent a couple of A4 size paintings in a small box, I live in EU.
The worst part is that I know where the parcel is but since the label had a typo (that I didn't write, it was whoever was working at the mail post at the day), they have it in the post office of the address I sent it to but they refuse to just give it to the guy I sent it to.