I swear on everything they changed the ink formula or something. That used to be my go to doodle pen, and then I could never buy a decent one after I used my first pack.

Also fuck watercolor pencils. Total scam

>>7880822
i bought mine years ago and they sucked then

>Negra
Over 9000 keks

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If they're anything like these, then they're secretly OP. I bought a 2-pack recently and I think I found my new favorite pen. The difficulty in getting the ink to flow is actually a good thing for me because it means I can get these wispy fine lines and build up hatching nicely with them, but can also go super dark and bold with more pressure.

I don't really hate a lot of "worsts," though. I guess charcoal pencils mystify me. I usually want to build drawings out of lines and it feels like charcoal is diametrically opposed to any approach other than flat tones. Hate how it smears and fuzzes easily. Yeah fuck charcoal I guess.

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Bought these as a novelty item at some point thinking they would be useful considering how goated dip pens are. Can confirm that these things are basically useless.

>>7880784
Fineliners, but hear me out:
I press too hard with my pens so the tip of the 005s goes back in the sheaths and I can't get them out and have to toss the pens. I'm much happier now with Hi Tec .25mms

>>7880948
i have some hi-tec-c .25mms coming in the mail today that i'm looking forward to trying.

>>7880784
skill issue

>>7880948
I only use dip and gel pens for this exact reason, microns and felt tips are too expensive to destroy

>>7880919
I like them while they work, because I like bold/calligraphic strokes and they have this lovely rough-hewn quality. Bought one and have barely used it. The issue is the "while they work" part - they can't hold ink for shit and feel wildly inefficient. I think you can improve ink flow and retention with some modifications but I haven't tried it.

>>7881093
>like them while they work
I'd rather find a spare twig on the ground and drag it across a page, that pen serves no purpose

>>7880784
Is this the art supply thread?

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>>7880784
Maybe nibs and brushes in general. I guess in the right hands they are amazing.

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>>7880784
>>7880847
fucking filtered. i exclusively use these guys for drafting and notetaking. you should probably stick to crayons or the .07 pilots like a fucking sped

>>7880948
>>7880980
it took me a bit to get used to them but now i really like it and think it'll be one of my main pens going forward

>>7880784
No specific brand, but I really hate acrylic paint. I can't ever get the colors I want.