>>7881184
kys

STOP! YOU! YES YOU. think before posting

you're about to post in a bait thread. Shouldn't you be drawing instead?

>>7881195
i love you kiss me

>>7881195
>universally applied method of learning
>'bait'

It's a method for drawing exactly from sight, sure. What if you want to draw from memory or imagination?
It's not like these exercises won't help at all in those aspects though, and there are far worse ways of learning to draw or improving your abilities.

>>7881184
>tfw humans developed a retard-proof way to learn how to copy hundreds of years ago


fixed that for you, copying is not even that hard, you are probably autistic.

>>7881218
you're not gonna pull anything out of your imagination if you never practiced drawing lil trooney, and to practice drawing you need to draw from observation.

now pyw

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>>7881318

>>7881218
Remembering proportions is far better than (((gesture)))

>>7881218
people with adhd brain will never understand the kind of intimate pathways that open in your brain from spending time on something if they've never did it
your kind always think learning is A gets to B like we're actually computers

>>7881350
esl fail

Post your Bargue copy and I better see a near perfect replica

>>7881370
no

>other far inferior way
which one?

I think that you are right. They don't... But i do

they spent like 8 hours on a bargue copy, not months

But how do you render left to get right...

>>7881184
I'm an art newfag
What's this?

>>7883063
Charles Bargue Plates.

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its weird i discovered this on my own ( https://files.catbox.moe/blsl6v.jpg ), but i never heard of it before browsing here. is there like an actual book about it or a guide? and in the end, its just deduction to get to this point of drawing from either life or pictures, you make the shapes and then you fill em out like in grade school, really easy, but only after getting the shapes, angles and distances right beforehand, the actual hard part. especially if you freehand it and only use your sight to measure approximates. this way it gets a little personality though and isnt just a xerox how the nodraws on here like to say

>>7881218
>What if you want to draw from memory or imagination?
Unironically just memorize construction and simplified forms

>>7881218
have you ever drawn the city of rome on a landscape? how would you do that from imagination if you havent studied it beforehand? if you never saw a dragonfly, didnt even hear a description, how would you draw it? a dragon with wings of a fly? copying is the first essential step to do whatever you want after, but you have to walk the mile. just think of it as detective work. do you think sherlock holmes would come to the right conclusions without knowing all the facts beforehand? do you think he would seem as knowledgable if he filled his mind with unecessary knowledge (for his goal) like accounting and fishing?

anyone that cant copy and observe which is the most basic foundation of any art, will not be any good later. imitation is what humans are very good at.

>>7883077
The sketches are nice but that final rendering is really ass.
And no this isn't anything special it's just sketching and then rendering, that's what basically all artists do.

>humans developed a retard-proof way to learn drawing hundreds of years ago
It was called having a drawing teacher but they all went extinct in the west

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>>7883082
>if you never saw a dragonfly, didnt even hear a description, how would you draw it? a dragon with wings of a fly?

>>7883151
thats.... ummmm.... hm. alright, touche. i can see this on a wall in some european trainyard

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>>7883082
I haven't seen a dragon fly in over 6 years and I can still easily construct one with 100% accuracy. Explain that.

>>7883162
Why does it hiss

>>7881184
Bargue is not for /beg/s

>>7883171
Because dragonflies are evil.

>>7881184
It's not retard-proof enough for me. I don't understand the relationship between those two drawings or what I'm supposed to do with them. It sort of seems like it's implying some sort of process, but I don't know what that might be. I tried copying them both, but I don't feel like I gained anything from doing that. Copying drawings always feels like just a boring mindless chore that has absolutely nothing in common with actually drawing something from life/imagination.

>>7881218
>What if you want to draw from memory or imagination?
Then you learn that after you complete this more basic skill. You do know how learning works, right? What about the progression of time?

>>7883913
The OP post seems to imply that you'd only need that basic skill, which is what was being pushed back on.

>>7883151
fucking BASED imagination chad

I'm a fucking trans nigger!

>>7881184
I keep seeing some faggot spam how good these are on social media but then he only shows one piece of his artwork every time as proof so I'm going to assume they're not really worth it

>>7881184
Autistic morons that can't draw from sight always claim that they want to draw from imagination

They are the best students, always paying all the tuition. It's fun

>>7881218
if you've never done it yourself, you won't understand how it helps

>>7883901
The Bargue process came with instructions originally. Try googling it. Plus, this has everything to do with drawing - from imagination or not. This trains your observation skills, and once you can draw from observation that implants into your brain. The skills transfer to imaginary subjects. Eye-Brain-Hand skills. Structure of planes, light, shadow. Being able to 1:1 something you can see. Learning to measure with pencil, stick or just eye and form relationships. Don't knock it - it exists for a reason.