>>7883795
He probably used a knife, as I heard he wanted to give it to his lover. Probably still hurt like hell though, but mentally ill people can do some crazy feats when the sperg out.
He could probably only hear half as well after.

>>7883800
>his lover
he gave it to a random prostitute

>>7883814
What a passionate guy.

>>7883800
No, I meant starting at 27 then proceeding to become /god/ tier

>>7883825
He started it at that age? It took him that long? You'd think it'd start to get infected and hurt like mad.
I would say he was particularly talented at tearing of ears, given that it took him so long, and he only did it once.

>>7883833
Wouldn't that be the opposite of talent? I think a talented ear-tearer would be able to rip it off from the getgo.
He was nearly a perma-/ear/.

>>7883825
it was a different time back then and there weren't the kind of distractions we have today. he totally immersed himself into his craft and he got results. id imagine if you spent 6+ hours a day everyday for 10 years working on art you would become great too but it requires a buddhist monk tier discipline to actually achieve that type of workflow and sadly the vast majority of artists aren't that committed or capable of sacrificing that much of their free time to draw pictures. van gogh lived in poverty and if it weren't for his brother's allowance he would never of had the time to make it as far as he did

>>7883795
I’ve read a lot about Van Gogh, with particular interest into his private letters. My opinion is that his achievement was mostly based on financial sponsorship from Theo, plus incredible mental instability that would push him into prolonged frenzies of painting. He was incredibly lonely and craved companionship, and used the painting as a way to soothe himself. He said that the colors spoke to him, good understanding of color theory was god tier because he would obsess about it constantly, even pausing his painting at times so he could write about the colors before going back to it.

Anyway there’s a lot more but I’d recommend you just read his letters. I really feel like I understand him though. Through and through, when I first read his letters I couldn’t stop saying “he’s me”. From the mental instability to the manic rushes and the perpetual loneliness. Of all the greats he’s the only one I’ve ever seen as a real person. Everyone else is much more like a myth to me

>>7884635
I read some of his letters. They were very interesting and personal. I really think that he just loved art. Even if his reasons for it weren't the healthiest.

>>7884660
You’re right. I should have led with that. He really did love it. And I think maybe to reach that high, you can’t be thinking in terms of being healthy or mentally well. To fly high enough to reach the sun requires sacrifice

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>>7883825
He actually went outside and sketched from life
Also Bargue

>>7884620
You obviously didn't read about his life.

>>7883795
EXTREME mental illness and lots of money

>>7884802
You are retarded. He lived in poverty barely scraping by on the patronage of his brother Theo for years.

>>7884830
https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en/art-and-stories/vincent-van-gogh-faq/was-van-gogh-poor
he wasn't poor, he was a retard with money
vermeer also bankrupted himself buying lapis lazuli

>>7883795
He copied millet a lot especially at the start. Not even hiding it.

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>>7884839
>There’s another reason why Vincent was often hard up. Painting supplies are expensive and he usually used up most of his money buying what he needed, leaving little left for food and drink.
i guess thats part of it as well, but wasnt he also buying whores a lot? i remember the one drawing i like a lot of that dilapidated whore.

>>7884845
protip: whenever you see an artist with a "muse", it's a whore, regular women just weren't allowed to associate themselves with artists like that
the guy caravaggio killed was a pimp for the lady in his paintings (some accounts say accidentally while castrating him)

>>7884845
also, it's not really that supplies were expensive so much that van gogh went through them at retarded rates due to how he painted
he shat put like 100 paintings per year whereas renoir, one of the most prolific painters in history, would paint like 70 in the same time span

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>>7883795
27 was the age he was when he was commissioned to produce paintings for a gallery (a commission he failed on and had his work rejected btw). Not the age he was when he started drawing.
His first industry job was actually selling art at a gallery.
A position he landed at 16 by being a nepobaby (aka having his well connected uncle land him a job there). Presumably because he showed an interest in art already. A job he proceeded to fuck up by being an autistic sperg to the customers. He also tried to fuck the landlord's daughter and then ran away to join the church.
Later he came back to painting and continued his art sperging and bad attempts at picking up women (including another landlady's daughter at some point, or maybe the landlady herself if I remember correctly?).
Everyone likes to treat Van Gogh like some kind socially betrayed outsider with a wounded artistic soul, but he actually had a lot of help from friends and family with his work and had a lot of people around him continuing to support him even after he went off the rails. Despite being an unsuccessful painter he was able to live as an artist. He was just kind of a fucking retard in life.

>In July 1869, Van Gogh's uncle, “Cent” Van Gogh, helped him obtain a position with the art dealer Goupil & Cie in The Hague. After his training, in June 1873, Goupil transferred him to London, where he lodged at 87 Hackford Road, Brixton,[1] and worked at Messrs. Goupil & Co., 17 Southampton Street.[2] This was a happy time for him; he was successful at work and was, at 20, earning more than his father. He fell in love with his landlady's daughter, Eugénie Loyer, who rejected him. He was increasingly isolated and fervent about religion. His father and uncle sent him to Paris to work in a dealership. However, he became resentful at how art was treated as a commodity, a fact apparent to customers. On 1 April 1876, his employment was terminated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_works_of_Vincent_van_Gogh

>>7885485
So he was a weird loser that had plenty of support from his family, was rejected by women, and failed financially anyway?

He’s me

>>7885599
can i have your ear when you make it big, anon?

>>7885604
>when you make it big
Well I hope you don't need that ear anytime soon, yuck yuck yuck.

>>7885485
>he became resentful at how art was treated as a commodity
based

>>7884848
lol
lmao

Overrated and overhyped by normies, just like Picasso.

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>>7885670
He had a very good eye for colours and rhythm not to mention his art had meaning

>>7885794
It's still lazy shit compared to real masters. It's like comparing a random sketch to masterpieces by Rembrandt or whoever.

>>7885794
Serious question. What is the meaning of you picrel?

>>7884635
>Of all the greats he’s the only one I’ve ever seen as a real person.
The Kurt Cobain of artists.

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>>7885794
I personally like his drawings better. His mark making actually feels more at home in this medium to me personally. Similar to Rembrandt but obviously nowhere near as skillfully executed. But he's remembered primarily as a painter because of Starry Night (a painting he personally considered a failure, to the point he rejected sending it to his brother to be sold along with his other work. He described it as a study that literally meant nothing to him - but I guess that aspect means it made for a better story, so that's the one he's known for).
It's one of those normie tier paintings like the Mona Lisa or Girl With A Pearl Earring that holds artistic weight above all of the contemporary work around it on the flimsy but uncombatable reputation as "the famous one that everyone knows".

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>>7885842
The cypresses are a symbol of death, you can find this motif in a lot of his works. The fact that they are so prominent and huge in this painting that they cover half the canvas and one is cropped off shows the ever looming thought of death on his mind. You could look at picrel and just dismiss it as some poorly painted chair with bad perspective but it means much more than that.
>>7885852
Personally I love the way he plays with colour, he does it so naturally that you wouldn't notice if he swapped the colour of the sky and the mountains.

>>7885670
Normies like pretty colors that's pretty much the only reason van Gogh is famous. You're seriously overestimating their interest in art
And Picasso is just overhyped because his name is recognizable but not even normies like his art lol, it's almost like he's memes for being incredibly bad.
His blue paintings era were okayish tho.
Another one is Francis bacon. But at least he put in some effort in attempting to render figures

>>7883825
he was unknown in life, wasn't he. this means someone else helped get him where he is now.

his style is interesting-looking, but i never understood the cult.

>>7886178
>this means someone else helped get him where he is now.
His brother and sister in law. Honestly, those two are the real MVP's of Vincent's story - may we all have someone like that in our corner, blood related or not.

>>7886178
Gertrude Stein
Look her up and you'll understand why impressionism, post-impressionism and modernism art are being promoted heavily.

>>7886491
Of course it had to be Jews behind it.

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>>7885619
Another anecdote about Caravaggio and his multiple whores was that after one of them drowned under suspicious circumstances, he used her bloated corpse as the model for picrel, with one story saying the figure in the shadow is her murderer

>>7886480
His brother was peddling his paintings his entire career, and he still couldn't make it work, he died soon after Vincent. Then (((somehow))) his sister in law magically made (((collectors))) appreciate his art. Okay

>>7886553
he had some success at a gallery and his name was getting around

>>7886566
Wrong, he sold one painting for a decent sum and could never repeat the success. Theo made Gauguin successful while Vincent was a joke, do the math.

>>7886566
afaik he sold a total of 3 paintings if you don't count his uncle commissioning him

>>7886570
>>7886572
He sold one painting his whole life but he exhibited his work multiple times including at Salon des Indépendants and critics were writing about his work. He wasn't a complete nobody whilst he was alive like many people think

>>7886589
>Salon des Indépendants
Literally just the rejects exhibiting their own work, not even a a gallery, that's like paying for a booth at an art fair and calling it an exhibition.
>critics were writing about his work
Critics write about any trash, Neil Breen and The Room guy are infinitely more known and relevant in their industry than Van Gogh was in his. Again Gauguin mogged Vincent so hard he mind broke him, and all it took was Theo showing his paintings to his clients.
You are delusional.

>>7886595
>rejects exhibiting their own work
Ah yes rejects like Cezanne, Seurat and Pissarro. Oh, and Gauguin
The point being he didn't go from literally who to """magically""" being known. No, he wasn't as successful as his contemporaries, but his name was already out there

what an interesting thread, this must be what art history class would feel like if it were an open forum. there is discussion, sharing of facts and bits, sharing of art and preferences. i wish all of /ic/ was like this

>>7886628
>I was in the gym with Arnold once, that means I'm a real bodybuilder
Nigger, please.
>he was le known
Known as what, a lolcow? Nobody wanted his paintings.
>The point being he didn't go from literally who to """magically""" being known
That's not a point anyone was making, you absolute retard, the quote is
>Then (((somehow))) his sister in law magically made (((collectors))) appreciate his art
>appreciate his art

>>7883800
>>7883814
>>7883822
Didn't he cut it off because a man left him though?

>>7885599
He was a chud incel. Based

>>7886640
Me too.

>>7884635
>He was incredibly lonely and craved companionship, and used the painting as a way to soothe himself.
So you're saying I have a chance

>>7883795
By being recorded as the first weeb seeking asain genes

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>>7886178
His work disappeared into obscurity when he died. It wasn't until the rise of unified German nationalism before world war 1 that his work was rediscovered and discussed and venerated by young German artists in a group called "The Bridge" or "Die Brucke" looking to promote Germanic painters as examples of the ethnic strength of their people. They saw Van Gogh's way of painting, fighting to overcome the canvas, not blending his paints into the material but battling it as a kind of resonant feeling within the rising and finally fully realized German state that had been a bunch of fractured kingdoms for so many centuries.
The way Germany was able to carve its own destiny into the crowded late 19th century Europe was thematically connected to the way Van Gogh had seemed to carve his paints into the canvas, a technique that was pretty unique for the time. Van Gogh being Dutch meant he had a Germanic connection to Die Brucke and after his work was rediscovered and promoted by the students a bunch of imitators followed the groundwork he had laid with his unconventional style and a lot of artists started working with his method.
This later became German Expressionism. Which became the primary art movement of Germany up until the end of World War 1, all built on the foundation Van Gogh unwittingly laid by painting like an eccentric retard.
There's an interesting lecture on it here: https://youtu.be/pzOt_QtEVgg

>>7885845
Is this a joke?