gosari is delving deep..

cunny

>>7886081
Grimest OP in a long time...

>>7886091
/lsg/ is falling down
The next stage is going to be 'baraag horror art'. Mark my words.

When I had no internet I played Napple Tale on Dreamcast emulator. It's a really cute platformer with a cute loli MC.

>>7886094
amazing what you can get done when you disable your router

I'm tired of this wired 24/7 living. I'm going inna woods and drawing loles the old fashioned way

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>>7886104

I just put my phone, chargers, laptop battery in this and cold turkey app on my PC. If I need to take calls it comes through my watch. I already have enough trees and ducks near my house to be at peace with.

>>7886097
In my case internet actially makes me draw more. When you habe noone to show your drawings, then you also have less motivation to draw. At least for me that's the case.

>>7886091
Beats oppaisloppa thoughie

>>7886127
B-but boinge boinge so goode...

The Doll situation is CRAZY...

What happened?

The only thing which makes me happy is porn. I'm too dumb for art. Too difficult and too time-consuming

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>>7886265
This is really high quality. You nailed the rendering and composition.

>>7886381
Smooche...

>>7886381
why does this remind me of chainsaw man

>>7886399
Isn't that nayata from CSM?

>>7886405
Yeah

>>7886265
Yo anon I think your drawing is upside down, just a heads up

>>7886415
He is Australian

>>7886381
I made a anatomy mistake on his right leg, but since I was going to make it blurry anyways I didn't bother fixing it.
The render of the background is also bad, but I don't know how to draw the wood texture so I drew square shapes instead

>>7886265
good color shift but you need to work on the contrast, i keep getting distracted by the palm creatura thing

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>>7886561
Do you think it should be darker or lighter? The leaves are under direct sunlight so I wasn't sure how to draw it.
I used a lot of saturated colors and ended up making it look more important that the human

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>Morning stretch

>>7886798
>just woke up
so she sleeps in the same clothes?

>>7886798
>amputated arm even doe she's just a chair force diversity hire
what happened?

>>7886801
Not usually. she sleeps with her uniform on when she is at the encampment, but not when she is at the unit. I might draw the tent and her sleeping bag later :D
>>7886803
Her right arm is bent behind her head so it's not really visible. Don't be mean to her :/

>>7886813
>I might draw the tent and her sleeping bag later :D
I await to see

>>7886832
goode stuff :3

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>>7886798
I think this would look better if the head and body matched. Right now, the head looks like it was pasted from a completely different drawing, primarily because the line weight is so heavy. Another contributing factor is that everything below the neck is detailed in a way that isn't consistent with the detail of the head. I'd expect the hair to be less cartoony. I'm not referring to the style of the hair but rather how its form is so simple. If you want examples of how outlandish hair designs can be executed properly in a drawing that intends to be realistic, look at Pokemon fanart like picrel.

>>7886832
blog?

>>7886862
I know what you mean. I have thought what details I could add to her hair without overdoing it. I could maybe draw her hair strands and add more shading, but then her hair would look dark when she is supposed to have light grey hair and doing that much detailing would make it seem really cluttered.

Thank you for the help, I'll have a look :D

>>7886832
Make the thong smaller plz

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I feel like i need to add a bit more details to my hair desu senpai

Umm catbox doko...or do people genuinely not give a one these days?

>>7886926
Soul, do you have a blog?

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he wants to speak to the manager of the dungeon

>>7886929
Errrr.... Didn't see that, ill post one if this get taken down i guess

>>7886933
Thanks. Nah i just draw occasionally.

>>7886949
The hair are nice, i think it helped me see (or rather remember) what im missing. I like the belt too, its always nice to draw those.

>>7887000
It'd be more useful to explain to him why you think his drawing is generic instead of making cheeky comments like this

cheekybros...

>>7886949
still a lot of AI mistakes in your drawings, try harder next time

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>>7886949
eastern armor is better

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>>7886837
She's a goode assassin right? Ty, anon <3
>>7886869
I got no blog yet
>>7886914
kek. For sure. Ill draw that later
>>7886798
I want to see her booba! >:3

If it's digital, I don't trust it.

https://files.catbox.moe/t2ug72.gif

>>7887248
You lose me in that small little cut before she pisses herself, like I cant even concieve what that small yellow dot scene represents, like I got the pussy line gag but not the one right after that
Impressive all the same though anon

>>7887258
They’re her nipples x___x My characters usually have them the same color as their hair.
Sometimes I forget that not everyone is familiar with my weird personal tropes x_x

>Impressive all the same though anon
: )

>>7886109
These things are awesome

>>7886798
I don't think her shirt would stay so neatly tucked in after a night of sleep. Also the lines at the elbow and wrist makes her look like she has doll or robot joints

>>7886803
>>7886862
>>7887299
You guys are genuinely wasting your time with feedback. Some of the same stuff has been said MANY times before and nothing ever improves, not even a tiny amount. Little to no attempt will be made to try anything suggested.

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Drew this Patchouli for the other thread

>>7887352
I want to be a worm in one of those books.

>>7886081
I made it to the OP image yay

>>7887367
Oh, it's Casytay. Hi Casytay!

>>7887354
Book grube...yeah

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My existential enemy is the JAP_ETHOS, and its WHORES: the pathetic westoids subjugated to the whims of a remote island.
Can you even fart without paying eternal tribute to the standards imposed by the 'yellow royalty'?

That is why I am trying to develop a SOVEREIGN stylistic framework that, unlike the failed western canon, is biformally balanced [aesthetic].
Of course, people without the capacity for projection will only see crooked pixels, but 'clumsiness' is the price of attempting new things.

>>7887388
i dont like your artstyle that much but i'll let you cook

>>7887390
This is midjourneyphobic

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>>7887390

>>7887388
Larp or schizobabble. Call it

>>7887388
one man's god is another's schizophrenia

>>7887398
>>7887399
The feeling is mutual. To me, you are profoundly incomprehensible... How can individuals with genuine talent succumb without much resistance to the will of a foreign society?

I suppose it is oversocialization and overstimulation [factors that I personally try to keep out of my organis͠mind].

Each nation should have its own NON-TRIVIAL complex͠popular +arthos rather than merely being the anomaly of some remote island.

To be honest, south_koreans are the only ones who seem to get my point, perhaps because of their historical resentment or something like that.

li'l bro puts more effort into his pseud posts than he does on his AI assisted sloppa

>>7887407
It doesn't matter

>>7887388
>>7887407
your only legacy after all this is being a subhuman hindu.

>>7887421
139

>>7887407
>"Resident evil villain's monologue about eugenics and purity right before turning into a monstrosity"-type beat

>>7887407
Yeah.
I know that the reason you are doing this too is because of resentment. Here's a hint: You're doing it alone.

>>7887407
Manga and anime style is heavily inspired by european and american art anyway. Osamu Tezuka was a big Disney fan.

>>7887407
Bro think Terry A. Davis of drawing...

>>7887440
>don't forget "we" made that same old talking points again and again
heavily diverged and became its own thing*

european comics are inspired by japanese ukiyo-e

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>>7887388
>this post
>that art
Everything you've written is destroyed by the fact the average westoid artist creates things like pic related. Imagine wanting to emulate this.

>>7887453
>colored
>has a background
>multiple characters interacting
lsg anklebiters can't not love this art

>>7887407
>To be honest, south_koreans are the only ones who seem to get my point, perhaps because of their historical resentment or something like that.
I think this is the worst possible example you could've used considering that South Korean media incorporates the worst of American and Japanese media. Gaudy and secular like American media with a poorly-imitated anime art style.

>>7887441
>schizo chuddie who makes a useless and blasphemous piece of junk that nobody cares about
He mostly is. The only difference is nobody will remember him.

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>>7887415
>>7887421
In my case, if I fail [which would only be possible in the event of an unexpected death], it will have been after fighting with dignity. On the other hand, what will your 'legacy' be [if you’re an artist]? To be a whore for an indifferent ethos, trading your soul for scraps? I mean, after all the creative output in these threads, the only ones who win long-term in terms of soft power are the japanese. But of course, since you are their globohomo whores, you don’t care. You only care about ephemeral materialism [likes, financial gain]; transcendent dynamics like SINCERITY, POTENTIALITY or BROTHERHOOD disgust you.

« Hail our yellow overlords... »
« Hail their craftsmanship and otherworldly creativity... »
« Please, inspire us. Us filthy 'gaijins'... »

How pathetic.


>>7887440
Yes, and that’s why golden age animation was a perfect ROOT to build something equal to or better than modern anime/tezukism. But in diverse societies, with low ethnic homogeneity, it’s impossible to CULTIVATE long-term patterns. There’s no tacit cooperation [have you seen how the japs organically reuse the same tropes?], and self-nullification occurs from an excess of freedom. That’s why I created the concept of +ARTIFICIAL_ARTHOS 'anchored' in a manifesto.

>The West has created countless styles.
I’m talking about HOLISTIC stylistic approaches that appeal to complexity and simplicity simultaneously. Not unbalanced approaches. That is the root of the power of the jap ethos; if you understand this ontological principle, you can employ it to defeat that ethos.


Picrel: I don’t know... I was watching Nesthäkchen and thought that an image of the cute Annemarie would look nice as decoration.

>>7887468
Blue Archive won doe
Manhwa won doe

>>7887485
Type normally

>>7887481
I can understand your desire to create an artistic paradigm to rival that of the Japanese, but I disagree with you on two fronts. Firstly, I don't think anything's wrong with following in the footsteps of the Japanese. Secondly, I don't think a manufactured paradigm - even if anchored in a manifesto - is going to work out well for you. It took the Japanese decades to shape their art style into what it is today, with the extinction of unappealing elements and introduction of appealing elements occurring gradually and implicitly rather than guided by a single source of truth. I'm also fairly confident that even if you were able to quantify appeal, you'd settle on something approaching what the Japanese already have.

>>7887487
블루아카 won doe
Gook capeshit won doe

>>7887485
Blue Archive is a strong point against schizoanon's argument, though. It's altogether indistinguishable from a Japanese product. South Korea has no notable artistic exports. Even manhwa is riding on the coattails of manga.

>/lsg/ is at a crawl speed after spur was implemented
hehe

>>7887488
>Jap influence
My animosity toward the japanese is somewhat exaggerated. I’m probably one of the anons who respects them the most. But I also respect my own integrity and self-determination. To be honest, I mostly hate the WEEBS and their deafening adulations that treat bifurcations as an end in themselves.

>the impossibility of the success of an artificial paradigm
I agree that cultivating stylistic patterns in an organic and social context is usually extremely slow. How many permutative generations [decades] did it take for Tezukism/anime to reach its modern state? But there is a factor you are not considering: ‘theoretical_creativity’: a theoretical framework I am developing whose purpose is the rigorous axiomatization of the currently elusive phenomenological-aesthetic dynamics, all for the sake of scalability and optimization. In theory, if you understand how the rendering atoms [or 'biforms', in my terminology] propagate in an arbitrary discrete entropic context, and how these 'fluctuations' relate to congenital aesthetic structures, you can enormously accelerate the development of permutative generations.


>>7887485
>>7887489
>>7887490

>koreans
Creatively speaking, in the world there are only two categories of individuals who 'unsettle' me: Chris Ware and [some] south_koreans. Personally, I think the latter, at the individual level, are driven by an extremely visceral force of RESENTMENT, a need to differentiate themselves from their historical enemies. This makes them pursue unusual stylistic permutations, and sometimes they manage to harmonize the mix of eastern and western sensibilities very efficiently. The point is, this individual-level force[[ not the one at the top [which I agree is currently just a bad japanese copy] ]] is not channeled, but that could change in the short term. I’m not exaggerating: if the west doesn’t do something in the next 20 years, they will become the new de facto internet style, replacing the japanese.

>>7887518
>Claims to have integrity
>uses AI
Get a load of this guy...

>>7887352
Very cute

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helo lisgy
drew woth a moiuse
sent with iphone

I wish I had more talent but I don't have much, I just have a good taste but I'm not really that good at drawing and painting.

>>7887550
dogeanon?

dogeanon post more loles, i love the loles u draw

>>7887555
I don't have anything to post. I've been drawing on paper.

>>7887556
Scan it or take a photo

>>7887299
You're right. She has a good belt, but her shirt should have been a bit untucked there :D
I should have erased those lines at the elbow and wrist some more.
>>7887321
I try to always learn from the help I get. Recently I've focused mostly on learning to draw her clothes and body. I know her hair isn't as detailed as her body and I've been unsure how to get around to really changing that
>>7887124
:/

ATF is getting nuked

>>7887595
Sweet. When do we start passing out the guns?

kek, what a shitshow

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What am I doing wrong? I don't like how my characters always look too old. I also think I overcomplicate things. Did I draw too many folds?

>>7887612
Head so longe...

I can't stop drawing poooorn. https://litter.catbox.moe/ssgnui7wllij92s0.jpg

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>>7887612
long mid face, thick torso, wide shoulders, fuck this captcha

>>7887612
Compare the proportions of your character's face to that of other lolis, a or loli(ch!ld)

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>>7887619
the government is watching me jorke it to loles... yeah...

>>7887612
Sorry... but I feel I’m ’bout to end this man’s whole career with this take. Her face has Lois Griffin esque proportions...

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>>7887595
>admin gives priveliged access to schizo mod because no one else knows how to fix site
>schizo uses backdoor to log entire site, DMs and everything, doesn't tell admin
>schizo gets into some forum drama with other mods and gets demoted
>schizo reveals he has logs of the entire site, everything up until May 22nd 2025 compromised
>demands that every other mod gets fired and to become admin or he will dox everyone
>admin threatens to kill ATF if he leaks it, schizo backs down
>admin never tells anyone that the entire site is compromised for a year
>schizo starts acting up again after a break up, shits up the site fighting with his ex
>both get banned
>schizo goes nuclear because he will never become head janny now
>admin shuts site down because he thinks this might stop the schizo from releasing the files
Also due to hosting costs, even if this drama never happened, the site would have shut down in 6-12 months anyway

>>7887627
if I had to buy storage for my servers right now with the price hikes I'd stop hosting as well

>>7887627
No, I can't laugh yet. I've got to hold it in... They're going to lose everything...

>>7887627
he could free up a lot of storage by deleting all the AI slop

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Mr. Clops, sir, could you recreate this with Cyclops-chan please?

>>7887638
That would be a bit mean to her :/

>>7887654
it's called tough love and she could use a bit of some

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>>7887560
It's just all feet, all of it.

>>7887678
So smol feets ^o^

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I drew

>>7887681
Little scratchy but goode drawes..yeah

>>7887692
You got a blog?

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>>7887627
>admin shuts site down
>this might stop the schizo from releasing the files
>the files

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Guys, how far am I to be able to draw like Asanagi's(VictimGirls) or Henreader's art style?
I've been drawing on 8k resolution fora while, and I think sooner I'll be able to draw like them or at least closer to them

>>7887970
holy shit quality drop
this should look better:
https://files.catbox.moe/84y5c3.png

>>7887970
If you keep doing "just draw" instead of actually learning what you are trying to achieve, you’ll never reach that level

>>7887970
Mate. Don't use those premade textures or whatever those are actually called. They genuinely don't look good. I speak from experience as I also used them back when I first started drawing and at the time I also thought they looked good. At some point you gotta admit that it's just a crutch for not knowing how to render

>>7887970
Bro made 6 drawe in 4 years... 2022 unironically looks the best

>>7887988
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/M1Mm8XqPVo0
I don't know what you mean by premade texture, do you refer to the noise efect on the clothes?

>>7887970
>how far am I to be able to draw like Asanagi's(VictimGirls) or Henreader's art style?
youre almost there

>>7887978
I'm trying to watch a 5 min tutorial video of basic fundamentals without sleeping, I'm really are
>>7887996
They're just an example, I'm not trying to make an album

>>7887997
Those patterns in hair and the fur pattern. It does not look as good as you think it does. It's way too uniform and you oughta draw the pattern yourself so there'd be actual variation and form to it

>>7888006
I dunno what to say, if you watch the YouTube video youll see that I drew that myself
heres on catbox https://files.catbox.moe/82lb3i.mp4

>>7888012
They still look really out of place nevertheless

>>7887681
>>7887678
never stop drawing and thank you ToT

>>7887970
Maybe uh, maybe cool it with the hyperrealistic teeth for a bit?

Someone finally addressed the elephant in the room...

Now if only someone could address the mouse.

https://files.catbox.moe/ea8k2s.png

>>7887970
2022 was such a good baseline for potential, but why did you decide to adopt some many weird stylistic choices over the years. you're like a car crash in slow motion, It's like I'm watching you fly throught a windshield...

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>>7888049

>>7888057
I had like a map about what to do to become a great artist, and among those tinks were being able to draw as realistically as possible, now that it seems that realism and lolis would be pretty dangerous, I'll just tag along with anime style, at least for now

>>7888086
What you're doing is not realism, but hyper realism, which is kinda uncanny.

>>7888095
hyper realism and lolis...
here was another dude here who drawed like that and his drawings turned good right?

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>>7888095
>>7888086
>>7888057
>>7888032
>>7888025
I'll be studying Henreader's style since It look's easier to replicate than Asanagi's; I'll try to make it look more Animu and less Uncanny Valley

>>7888121
Who was it?

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>>7888122
yeah...
i mean...
you'd be better if you look for an artist that likes to draw his lolis with 2 dots as a nose and replicate their style instead of forcing your style on anime characters, that creates that uncanny valley aspect.

or just study the skull, face etc idk, because you are not making it

>>7888127
trust me bro
I can make it look good I'll show you
>>7888123
Wasn't his name Walter or something

>>7888122
Nice study, its a massive improvement

>>7888137
He just hasn't added the uncanny stuff yet. If only he'd hold off on that stuff...

>>7888135
walta. put ya dick away. im not gonna look at your loli drawings walta

ou fucking Reuters?

>>7887388
blog?

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>>7888122
Take a closer look at these regions and compare them to your reference. If you're earnestly trying to study his style, you'll stop injecting your own habits. You can go back to your individually drawn teeth in your original works.

fetish art for dentists

Everyone will remember Michi's tooth fetish and Prayer's preference for deformed anatomy. Nobody will remember your drawings though. Who actually lost?

>>7888436

Did I ask about your bibliography, nigga?

>>7888449
How did you know I'm Prayer?

>>7888450
No I assumed you’re the nobody mentioned in 3rd person.

"We're you always this /beg, Prayer?"
-Yuji /INT-adori after seeing prayers art again after 3 beg-illion years

This jit keeps bringing up prayer like he was molested by him. Let people solo level in peace.

Did casy get banned on twitter?

It doesn't matter

I will always remember artists that transcend and become art objects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v6us8xUBIQ

>>7888506
>We're you
I had a stroke reading that

>>7887970
>wanting to draw like asanagi
sure hope by that you mean the thighs and not the faces

>>7888541
It don't matter

Where drawes hmmm?

>>7888436
>Who actually lost?
You did, you just haven't realized it yet.

>>7888541
don't have a stroke on behalf of third worlders, that's embarrassing

>>7888542
you dont like his faces? I mean of course, the way he draws bodies is his selling point, but his faces are pretty recognizable, so that should add him points, doesn't it?

Gentlemen, let's draw. You first.

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Now that I realize, nobody said anything about my backgrounds for a while, I guess I have improved on them to the point of being acceptably better compared to the past
>>7888669
>>7888561
Here's a quicky on another software

>>7888877
>Bro said onion
Also that's way better way to draw the hair than your usual hyper realistic way

Holy massive L to UK. They just banned all incest content fictional included. You can now legit go to jail for 2 years for having Ben fucking 10 being 18 years old and having consensual sex with his 18 year old cousin gwen on your computer. And if you dare share incest stuff you get 5 years in jail. I'm more and more thankful every day I'm not from UK, because holy...

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>>7888892
clown world

>>7888892
based, those moralfag hagniggers made their bed, ban furries and rape porn next, cheering for the first hag artist to end up in jail

>>7888906

hope loliniggers get killed straight up

Next they're going to just straight up ban porn aren't they. What an absolute joke of a country

>>7888913
It's christian hypocricy. Adam and Eva actually created humanity theough incest, yet christcucks say it is a sin

>>7888917
holy reddit onions. sorry you need cummy cock cock fucky cocky boing boing or else you go insane

>>7888917
It's just governance in guise of "protection". Nothing more nothing less

>>7888892

Do UK citizens just sit there and take it up the ass for every law passed or do they vote for stuff like this? In either case, not my problem.

>>7888884
If you look with your eyes half closed, you'll realize its literaly the same, this is just low res
>>7888892
eurogays are retarded masochists for allowing their government to fuck their asses whenever they want. What happened to the alpha French people who beheaded their incompetent and abusive leaders in the past?

>>7888934
yeah. it isn't my problem either, BUT it can become my problem if they try to impose these rules on other websites. all in all it has just been baffling to see this slippery slope the UK's been on this past year or so with the age regulation stuff etc
>>7888938
UK is not part of europe. it's just UK Orwellian-maxxing for no reason. Also frenchies are one of the only countries that still do lole stuff without that much of stigma and even make lole games regularly. So they are based in my book.

also you could just blend the lines in the hair that'd improve how they look a lot. given how the low res looks better

>>7888941
You guys are just not accustomed to peak art. If you ask someone with hair fetish about my drawings, they'll surely say that it looks great, just like the teeth with mouth fetishists. Probably I'll tone down with the eyes and skin because I CURRENTLY don't have enough skill, so I'll mix it with the common anime style, but I'll keep training to make pieces of art that would make everyone horny

>overprotective nanny states fucking your ass on one end
>corpofascist dystopias fucking your face on the other end
The virtues of the """"developed"""" world...

>>7888945
Thank goodness I live in Avernus(Mexico), where laws and rules are just paper and empty words, so even if lolicon and incest becomes ilegal it would be irrelevant to all loli artists here

Bro is from one of 7 seven countries where lole is still legal. Do we have anon from each country at this point?

Korea and SEA have had a ban on all pornography for a while now. They manage somehow

>>7888955
no wonder they are so gacha addicted and unironically manchilded when it comes to gacha characters needing to all have coomer-ish swimsuits or they'll crash out. because that's all they have...

>>7888944
>they'll surely say that it looks great
>I CURRENTLY don't have enough skill
>mix it with the common anime style

lol another westoid with the same 'its muh style' garbage blinding themselves to all faults. i'll enjoy this trainwreck.

>>7888988
SMOOOOCH

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>>7888877
Ear way too high up
Top of the head too big

>>7888999
no one should follow casy's inferious loomis method. Also have fun in the jail since you're from the UK I guess.

>>7888934
>In either case, not my problem.
It is your problem. I sets precedent for other countries to follow and forces the hand of host sites and payment processors to ban degen content because this one Euro-cuck island bans it. Just look at what happened to adult content on Steam.

Loud house bro lost.

Common Tesla W

>>7889026
>I sets
can you please stop

>>7886081
I really like the casy picture.

>>7889041
Bro is having a cortisol spike over a typo. Grime...

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>>7889026
>It is your problem.
It isn't

>>7889052
keenough

Blud thinks Thiel and the Heritage guys will let him proceed clean and dry.

>>7889005
>no one should follow casy's inferious loomis method
whats wrong with it? I've been practicing with it since she posted it and it's been very good so far

>>7889167

Follow it. Weed yourself out.

>>7889174
But I don't have a garden.

>>7889175
We all start somewhere. Become the fertilizer.

>>7889167
she doesn't even follow her own guide, that should be more than enough a reason.

Drawing hands is the hardest thing. Hands from below with half closed fingers

>>7889181
how so?

>>7889187
The guide spheres for example serve no actual purpose and she doesn't follow them in any way.

>>7889190
>The guide spheres for example serve no actual purpose
The spheres that are used to know long and where to draw the straight lines, help keep proportions and help you visualize the skull, serve no actual purpose?
>she doesn't follow them in any way.
Except they are followed in the image. What do you mean? The only reason I can think of, for you to genuinely say that, would be that you believe the "guides" need to be followed very closely, like tracing the guides, instead of using them as just "guides" that give you information about where to start and end the lineart.

>>7889190
This is such a /beg/-tier post holy fuck.

>>7889194
>The spheres that are used to know long
how long*
I'm ESL but I hope my point is clear enough

>>7889195
Your guide blows, Casy.

>>7889198
I accept your concession, /beg/let.

Anything but actual loomis...

https://files.catbox.moe/qli0ou.PNG

taking critique

>>7889211
oWo I like this

Drip, drip, drip, drop...Our heroes have left their legos and Gizmos on the Bay...
In their name we shall sing our Prayer.
Please, we beg of you. Draw Blue Archive.
That is all, thank you.

>>7889261
fuck you pay me

>>7889261
unc archive...

>>7889261
Serial killer type beat.

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>>7888999
>>7889167
The problem is that it over complicates the process from the get go, and while the process might make sense to the artist who made the tutorial cause they already built up a habit after how many years, to a noob it reads at nonsense.
Guidelines are building blocks, and when ut comes to drawing the human head, there are two basic components that must be laid out first before you add any other fucking details can be determined:The cranium and the jaw. These are the basic parts of the skull, and determine where you put all your other marks. How you draw those two components from the get go determines where you put your guides for your eyes, the ears, eyebrows, lips, etc
It is much easier to determine from the get go if you are in the right path in your drawing if you lock down those two features. If you draw the chin relatively small compared to the cranium, it appears more like a child, if you make the jaw a little bigger, it may be appear like a teens head, draw it a little bigger and more wider, it'll appear like a grown man/woman
Also depending on what character you want to draw, the placement of your eyes can vary. Like in my pic related for the younger looking character I drew the eyeline low to make it look child like, but if I kept the headshape the same but moved the eyeline up slightly? It would look less like a child character but more in line with those moe characters like from KyotoAni.
Its much more easier for a beginner if you think about
1.Head
2.Centerline(that determines where the head is facing: front/side profile/at an angle
3.Jaw
and from there determine where you want to place the eyes/nose/etc depending on how you want the character to look, cause the typical anatomical answer for like the eyeline is halfway from the top of the head to the bottom of the chin but you can lower it or bring it up depending on what is more pleasing

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>>7888999
>>7889167
Another problem with the method presented is that once you start increasing the skull or drawing the jaw at the end, it actually fucks up the proportions you supposedly planned ahead of time. Like Ive seen Casy's drawings they are not usually this elongated. I made an edit of where her proportions typically are, but they came out elongated precisely because they decided to lock in the eye placement of the eyes and the eyebrows shit before determing what the shape of the skull actually is gonna end up being. Like the 3/4 drawing and the front view does not match proportionally
Also Hat Kid itself is a bad example to use cause the cranium is obscured by the fucking cap.
Again you can tell if a drawing is either gonna be good or bad really fucking early if you lock in key details first. If you change the fucking cranium or chin all the way at the end it throws shit off
Again, it goes Head/Cranium, center line, and jaw. Its not that fucking complicated

>>7889343
>>7889357
Casy utterly btfo. Good job explaining thorougly why the guide makes no sense for new artists and actively harms their progress. casy doesn't even follow her own guide

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How much of a /beg/ am I?

>>7889393
Finish something and you'll get a worthwhile estimate.

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buru archive

>>7889418
лeгeндa

>>7889418
мeгaхopoш

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>>7889217
thank you anon

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>>7888999
https://files.catbox.moe/9q7dqa.png
any casy style body tutorial

>Does he know?

>>7889519
This legit looks great. Blog?

>>7889519
you made that using that casy guide? but anon said it was worthless?

>>>/v/733944962
>i get a few commissions every now and then, and if it has anything to do with loli, it's guaranteed that i'm going to be spammed with "UOOH ToT BRAT CORRECTION SOBBING_EMOJI"
>it's tiresome and annoying at this point
which one of you is this

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>>7889652
I'm the one spamming those comments

>>7889652
Saying you're tired of heuristic compliments is pretentious. You can mute the comments and leave some other contact info so there's no excuse. That post is performative humble bragging.

>>7889653
>Work on drawe for days.
>finally post it
>get one (1) singular comment
>it's the same elephant from the same one guy as every other time
>repeat ad nauseam
All around me are familiar faces...

If you think about it, every loli has free access to lolicon. They just have to look at themselves.

>>7889690
i want to be a lole ToT

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Curious on what you guys think, do you guys consider pic related as loli? Been seeing some discussion on what actually counts as loli, I’ve seen people say that even if technically they’re underage they have to have a specific look, something more like in OP’s pic.

>>7889692
Loli enough to make pearl clutchers crash out

>>7889692
Rather on the hebe side. The body is too long to be loli. Especially the legs.

>>7889692
That's a hebe, but these distinctions are only made by the lolicon community. Normalfags consider your pic and anyone under 18, like Uzaki and Nagatoro to be loli, and the cutoff keeps increasing every year.

>>7889690
The government should start poking out kids eyes to stop them from abusing themselves like that

Kids should be raised in Matrix pods until the boys reach 25 and the girls 40

>>7889731
UK government will be at it soon

Hey faggots, is ATF kill or not? How over is it?

>>7889692
Chinatsu is as loli as Tatsumaki. The body type is pubescent, but small, slender, with a flat chest. Wide hips are optional. There are adult women with this body type, but it's a body type more associated with pubescent girls. So it's loli in the expansive sense, but if you're restricting loli to just prepubescent, then no.

>>7889848
Forums (with all the mods/projects) are going poof. Registrations are closed, so if you don't have an account already it's too late to back things up. The ATFbooru is apparently going to be taken over by the catbox guy, but considering how catbox has been shitting itself lately, I doubt it's going to last long.

>>7889692
It's safe to call a character a loli if it's physically indistinguishable from what you'd expect an underage character to be depicted. Sunna counts because, like Tatsumaki, she has a childlike build.
I'm usually not comfortable relying on my own judgement when classifying characters as lolis or not since westerners lack proper context for this inextricably foreign concept (the worst of which push terms like hebe to cope with their inadequacy), but my findings suggest that not even Japan can decide when it comes to Sunna.

>>7889393
Less /beg/ than me and I've been learning for two weeks approximately.
Also, increase the contrast of your pics.

>>7889885
Are they being fully erased or just shelved? Has that been enunciated?

>>7889907 (Me)
Also I should warn you that there's nothing to be gained by associating with western elitists who insist that lolis have to have to be sexless like the OP pic, as if to say that lolicon is a strictly pedophilic pursuit. This is an idea exclusively foreign to Japan. If you want a good idea of the Platonic ideal of a loli, your best bet would be considering characters from the lolicon movement, like Lum from Urusei Yatsura, Clarisse from Lupin, Frau Bow from Gundam, and the stuff that Hideo Azuma drew.

>>7888001
>I'm trying to watch a 5 min tutorial video of basic fundamentals without sleeping, I'm really are
That was a dumbass claim you replied to. Any kind of time spent drawing isn't wasted time. Worst case scenario you're improving your hand to eye coordination. Best case some shit can click and you have a leap in improvement.
It's better to follow a training routine though. That's definitely true.

>>7889695
this. holy kek. i dont even chase out drama like this but the torrent of butthurt is so big. i dont remember klee or nahida making this much noise back then, but probably because GI isn't so blatantly horny like zzz is.

>>7889357
>because they decided to lock in the eye placement of the eyes and the eyebrows shit before determing what the shape of the skull actually is gonna end up being
Wiat what?
So you are supposed to draw the skull completely and then the features?

>>7889975
Is ZZZ the normie's first gacha so they're like "Great heavens, how can there be lolecoded character in my gachaslop"

>>7889713
Was there any outcry for kaede from BA or Yaia back when they came out for their loleboings, like it was with uzaki who was a college student?

>>7889994
Naw it was because Sunna got a lot of attention, there were loli characters before here but didn’t really have that much focus, in fact ZZZ mostly catered to the big titty, huge ass and wide hips girl crowd for a year. The normalfags couldn’t handle that not being in the spotlight for once.

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>>7889988
Not sure if this is bait but I'll give an earnest response.
The focus is the cranium, centerline, and jaw. In the examples that I drew you can see the cranium represented as a basic circle(more of a wider oval for the profile) and the red line that represents the jaw. I also drew smaller simplified versions that only contain the cranium(blue circle), the centerline, and the jaw(represented by the red line)
That is a simple representation of the skull, which is important to lock down cause from their you determine shit just like where you place the eyeline, then the nose, then the mouth, ears, etc. You dont need to draw the ACTUAL skull, I just drew it so you know what I was talking about. If you need me to simplify it here are more simple drawings that show what you need.
Its basically a sphere(cranium), center line, and a line representing the jaw. I even show an example where you can make the jaw really small, this shit can vary depending on age/character design/ etc.

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>>7890023
>>7889988
And in case it isnt clear in my developed drawing, here is a drawing based on the Casy tutorial but with the more simple method.
No need to bullshit the jaw at the end or elongate the fucking cranium when you draw those things from the get go

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>>7886081


https://i.postimg.cc/FKV8sD8z/tpowofuoh.png

>>7890040
Wtf is that dogshite site. I got hit by two pop up disclaimers in a span of 5 seconds on the site. Use catbox please

>>7890043
catbox be down for me, have imgpile instead

https://imgpile.com/p/wbbreX2

>>7890043
dumb phoneposter

>>7890050
Mate. Sorry that I check the loles on my phone sometimes...

>>7890048
this one didn't embed with 4chan x like the other one... virus...

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Sup /ic/
First time posting here. I just got kicked out of a /b/ thread and directed here. I'm not sure this is the right thread for what I wanna ask, either.
I'm thinking maybe you knew him. Maybe he posted here too.

You guys know the artist known as Graveyard Guy?
He used to be a /co/ drawfriend until something tragic happened in his family.

This is one of the main characters from a book that he wrote:
https://litter.catbox.moe/0l7fzt.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/0a0e1o.png

>>7890057
Why did you get kicked out of /b/? Also Graveyard Guy was awesome, but he never posted here

>>7890057
/ic/ mans don't associate with no /co/...

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>>7890060
>Why did you get kicked out of /b/
Well, "kicked out" is an exageration, but I asked in the loli thread whether or not they have drawfriends who could maybe draw these characters, and someone told me to not be annoying and instead come here.
I only asked them because a few days ago I saw his friend Editor Anon share the first chapter of his book there.

>Also Graveyard Guy was awesome, but he never posted here
I hear he was pretty chill, people clearly liked him a lot.
It's pretty tragic that his older sister won't make it (at least it seems to be unlikely, for what Editor Anon days), and I'm sad that I never got to talk to him. I only got to know of him after he had left the internet.

Annoying people are redirected here. Grime...

>>7890062
Well, you won't get any art here, this general doesn't take requests, the only /ic/ thread that does is the OC Redraw general

>>7890069
I imagined that could be the case.
The Anon that wanted to get rid of me on /b/ probably linked me to the first/ic/ thread that seemed related.

>>7890073
why don't you tell that anon to suck cock.
it's /b/. there are no rules zomg!!

>>7890057
>>7890062
>>7890073
What kind of art were you looking for? They're cute characters, maybe I'll use sketch something for them as a warm up.

>>7890069
OC thread is only for your own OC's
Their Rule 4 even says: This is NOT a request thread. Artists Only.

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>>7890082 #
What kind of art?
Well, any, to be honest. As you said, they're cute. The thing is, the Anon editing the book is probably gonna do a good job, but he said that it's gonna take a lot of time.
After that, Graveyard Guy has said that he wants to return when he feels up to it, and then make the book into a comic, and that's really gonna take long. I'm OK with waiting, but I wanna see more of the characters as we wait.
Of course, GG's well being is priority. I don't wanna sound like I want to see he return just so we can see the book as a comic.

I've read what people have said (those who have read select chapter), the bios of the characters, and also I read chapter one (partially edited). I couldn't help to fall in love with the characters, so I wanna see morebas we wait, in any style or level of safe-for-workness.

https://litter.catbox.moe/5d1xmoxd5v4i9k7d.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/nrq8fxq11oj8bekw.jpeg

>>7890089
I'm afraid I'm not familiar. What book?

>>7890092
GG wrote and illustrated a short book (18 chapters, I think) called Cherry Pink. The adventures of there very different girls working in a certain video industry. It's a fantasy world where such things are legal, and wanted to eventually make it into a comic.
Shared some select chapters on Baraag (now deleted, so I haven't seen them) which based on the reviews, we're pretty great.
But then, as he was correcting the thing and editing it, tragedy struck. So he abandoned it in order to focus on his family.
But an Anon convinced him to not delete it, and that Anon became the editor. He is currently working on finishing it.
He shared chapter 1 on /co/, with some illustrations and editor notes. He said he chosen to share it "caveman style" (meaning, as photographs and with hand written notes) so no one could mistake it for the final version.
Too bad the illustrations contained in these pages are pixelated, but I guess that has to be done for a blue board like /co/...

https://catbox.moe/c/63iene

>>7890092
It was a project by a /co/ drawfag that is currently on hiatus because of personal issues. There's only a few character sheets and a draft novel so far.

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>>7890097
>tragedy struck. So he abandoned it in order to focus on his family
>>7890104
>currently on hiatus because of personal issues
He also became somewhat paranoid over the legality of loli content on Italy.
Probably not justified, but he typed this as he was dealing with the news that his sister is gonna have to have both legs amputated in order to make her chances go from zero, to slightly above zero.
So, sane or not, I cut him miles of slack. I don't blame him for not thinking straight.

>>7889692
If you wanna be strict no she doesn't count, he body and proportions are way too tall: lolis should be up to middle school/13 years

However if you wanna be loose with the definition she does have kind of a loli aesthetic and wears a randoseru so you'll see people calling her a loli: this split over the definition exists both in the western and Japanese communities, it's not uncommon to see Japanese using the term loli loosely

Hebe is a stupid 4chan term it doesn't mean anything, because most actual lolis fall in the 9-13 age range which is early pubescence so they'd be hebe already

>>7890090
it's my heart beating for (You) :)

JY JS JC JK JD
Any other terms need not apply (besides JH JN JT JJ)

>>7890135
KY and SD (kinda you should die, dude)

>>7890150
LY

>>7890158
NU

>>7890135
BO (Boinge)

Is there any guide on how to draw lole hands and feet from below. I think those are my biggest problems still

>>7890205
why that specific angle?

>>7890208
Because it often happens to see this angle. Drawing hands from above is not that hard but from below it's difficult

>>7890208
Or better said from below and front with angled fingers, that's difficult

Who draws the best hands and feet here?

>>7890210
I see...hm..

I think drawing anything from below is harder than any other view, just because you don't really see most things from below in your daily life so it's kind of harder to visualize.

>>7890226
Yeah, i have this impression too. Except for faces. But for hands you also have all the fat pads from below and the fingers going inwards, which makes it harder.

>>7890236
Yeah. Faces makes sense, but like the times where you see someone from below fully is just so rare compared to the times you see people in level and above in just your regular daily life. I've wanted to draw poses from below and I've come to realize how difficult it is to come up with interesting poses that would look better drawn from below than it would from above, level or etc.

hm yeah haha

Hmmm....yeah

humu humu...

okay, that was weird.

>>7890297
cute

>>7890299
thank you

>>7890297
Sweetie!

>>7890297
lovely