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The one fucking tool that'd be useful for artists to save them time to re-trace their sketch, and it's censored and cannot upscale properly.
THIS is why AI is not making any money and pissing people off.
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>>7887460
Have you first confirmed that AI can do what you're requesting, perhaps by asking it to clean up a SFW sketch? Based on my experience, you're not missing much because AI can't accurately turn sketches into lineart. The best you'll get is lineart that vaguely resembles your sketch but with unrelated elements mixed in that came from the AI's training data.
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what if you just drew the line art
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>>7887460
>saar the needful utilities
lineart is literally what the drawing is in any situation where you're inking, you worthless brown faggot
either you're painting over the sketch and it doesn't matter or you're inking and the inking is what makes the drawing
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AI works just fine when I ask it stuff, maybe I suck at art and it can't recognize the things I draw as porn
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>>7887463
I tried a few and the results were really good, it didn't omit anything either. The problem though is that it is has jpg artifacts which defeats the purpose
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>>7887467
It's boring fucking grunt work. I enjoy messy sketching not lining, but I have to line if I am to color my art properly. Especially don't want to trace my own fucking art, I already drew it once, what's the point of tracing it when the computer can do it?

>>7887473
You're retarded.
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>>7887476
Huh, looks like I'm behind on the times then. Why not censor your NSFW sketch and use the censored lineart as a base, completing it to the best of your ability? Or are you altogether unable to make lineart?
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>>7887483
>t. begtard
pyw, I can already tell you can't draw for shit hide behind messy sketching hiding your mistakes
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Is this the new jeetcope? Pretending control nets are wild unconstrained artist sketches?
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>>7887483
>I already drew it once
and yet you need ai to draw it
strange
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1. Generative AI is not tailored to help artists, in fact that's antithetical to what AI products offer. They're programs meant to ultimately replace your paid labor, not to augment it, no matter what they try to tell you, and the more you use it, the more you critique it, the more easily it can replace you (that's why I find it funny when artists try to pwn the AI by listing out all the things wrong with whatever it shits out, because all they're doing is giving free help to people with zero artistic sense tweak their slop to be better; I guarantee you that the improvement in hand generation came because that was what everybody was shitting on and pointing out how exactly it was wrong)
2. The more you outsource to AI, the less the art is yours.
3. If it really is gimped at the moment, be thankful, because otherwise it would be even more of a crippling blow to artists, since scamming artists out of commissions would become so easy as to make it irresistible. You could no longer send roughs for approval, as they'd just AI it and demand a refund and feel no remorse, because the narrative that somehow AI usage is uniquely exempt from all scruples has long since taken hold in the general public.
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>>7887483
>It's boring fucking grunt work
Cmon now anon lineart is a discipline in of itself. There are tons of little choices and artistic touches that go into it, it also really forces you into drawing your sketches with more "definite" lines since if you go in kinda guessing where stuff goes by the time you get into line art your shit will look off because the sketch was also off and only looked "okay" because the ambiguity of the sketch let your brain fill in the blanks. By handing over the artistic reigns to AI you rob yourself of a lot of these things (also the AI is 100% not just adding in line work its also altering the sketch itself).
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>>7887460
There's a lot of things that AI COULD do to become really useful to artists, but the dipshits don't know how to make a useful tool to save their lives - when sam inhuman was asked how openAI will make money, he said they'd ask the AI how to make itself profitable.
They're creating interesting tech demos, without real thought on how it's going to be used, and by who.

As for the things that would be useful?
An tool that does the line art based on your provided references (would be great for comics).
A tool that colours based on provided references (would be good for comics and animation).
A tool that does inbetween frames for animation based on animation charts provided (would be good for animation, duh).
A tool to do the retopology for a 3D sculpt (for 3D artists).
But currently AI always makes changes to the artists sketch, rather than strictly adhering to it, and makes everything shittier and more anime - making it useless for all those things from the get go.
Besides, as the anon above said, it was never about being a tool for artists, but about replacing them.

The only good thing I can think of using AI, that is good for artists, is in-painting to fix problems, but that's more useful for graphic designers and photographers than for someone who draws.
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>>7887476
Post actual results. I tried with NovelAIs lineart cleanup tools and it looked good at a glance but once you look into the lines you'll find a lot of melty or squiggly lines (it's like they came out of a vector tools). Cleaning up those take between 20 min to 45 min. Mind you, NovelAI's lineart cleanup is one of the better ones
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>>7887483
You’re not an artist. Leave.
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>>7887460
Link? I usually take too much time on the lineart and it doesn't seem really good because i'm using a screenless
I would like to use this
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You might want to rethink how much time you are putting into the sketch if it is so refined that you can trace over it 1:1.
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>>7887483
retard who doesn't understand the importance of line weight so he hates doing lineart
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>>7887483
just clean your sketch up then you fucking helpless moron
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>"I just want the machine to do everything for me and magically i will be rich and famous and everyone will love ME"
Anon, just go sling rocks or some shit;
-you make buttloads of money
-junkies will LITERALLY suck your dick
-women will give you pussy

Why bother being an artist in 2026?
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>>7887460
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>>7887460
you don't use their AI tool

YOU USE YOUR OWN AI TOOL
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>>7887483
SAAAAAAAAAR I DO THE DOODEL BUT LINEWORK TOO HARD SAAAAAAAAAAAR
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>>7887483
hehehe
you can't draw clean lines!
sad, lol
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>>7887460
>using some bullshit hosted by a crappy silicon valley moneypit instead of the plugin for krita
Be more curious. Actually, be more inventive. Stop paying for shit you don't need.
>>7887483
>sketch
>color over the sketch
>line the colors where you need the darkest darks
The $10 How To Not Actually Draw book you got in middle school is not actually useful unless you already know how to make visual art.

>>7887510
None of this matters unless you are in an adversarial relationship with your clients and audience. You have a Gypsy-esque mentality.

>>7887526
I use it to rapidly conceptualize shit and then I crush all the colors to use it as an underpainting or for thumbnails. I can set this shit to run while I sleep and then go through it for any gems. The errors don't matter so much if used in this way because I'll obviously discard them, just as I do for stray strokes/lines when I do it myself.
You have to have decent compositional knowledge for this to work though. If yours sucks then don't use AI until you shore it up. As a starting point, I recommend studying the stuff on CARI, or movies/shows (live action or animated) where the director is allowed full control. And I mean STUDY them, do not turn your brain off. Ask yourself why things are set up the way they are. Landscape and plein air artists are also a good source when they actually explain what they do and why.
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>>7889183
Do you even know what being called a gypsie mean mah nigboy
>try harder next time saar
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>>7887483
I'm pro-AI so this isn't me being a bitch about wanting to use it, but you can just erase the mistakes in the sketch until it looks like lineart. That's what I do.
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>>7889212
Yea they are insular and treat everyone else as cattle, trying to just parasitically milk as much money out of people before moving on to the next target and bullying each other in their little groups into compliance.

It's applicable if you treat your clients as paypigs instead of as full human beings who like your art. But then a bunch of morons also aren't making the art they actually want to make, but instead do what they think will get them the most likes or asspats.
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>>7889262
>t. mutt
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>>7889183
Serious question: are you functionally illiterate?
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>>7889324
I read all of it. None of the problems in the people I replied to matter. I'll go down them one by one.
>OP
He has no idea what he is doing. A local install can be used to upscale, and the krita plugin has been demonstrated as being useful for lining.
>2nd reply, what I assume is OP.
He does not realize you can either not line your art at all or do it AFTER coloring. Both solve his problem without needing to use AI, which is generally not that great at it to begin with.
>3rd reply, the 1 2 3 anon
Everything he talked about assumes that his clients literally do not care about his art as HIS art. This is a problem only if you have shit customers, at which point you get outcompeted by thirdworlders and country bumpkins who can charge half of what you do because of their lower cost of living.
>4th anon
He listed all the things it CAN'T do, which amounts to offloading TOO FUCKING MUCH work to the dumb computer. You can do the other shit I listed - where you use it to help conceptualize, thumbnail and underpaint. You can also do shit like use some to generate singular, one at a time inbetweens.

Shit is more of a time saver in that you complete your projects in 3 weeks rather than 5 due to compounding marginal time savings. It's not a magic "do the thing I hate doing while I sit back and relax" button.

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