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I always have an urge to draw swastikas, since childhood already, but I don't want my drawings to become just political propaganda. But then again, it's just another form of self-expression, so I'm not quite how to handle this.
I guess if it's not too much in your face it should be ok. Just as a little note on the side and maybe not too obviously transmitted
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>>7888492
Can it? Yes. Should it? No.
I also like military aesthetics, german and prusian specifically.
Look, i'm not gonna me a long post, so the tl;dr is draw whatever the fuck you want, if you want to draw swastikas, do it. People might ask you if you are a neonazi and you can say "no, i like the aesthetics" and be done.
I've been asked if I'm a pedo for drawing lolis, I just tell them "they aren't real, and i don't want to fuck them". That usually ends the conversation
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>>7888514
I don't really care how people think of me. I've alteady been called a nazi just for getting a fresh haircut. I just don't want my pictures to become propaganda. If you draw a girl and add some political symbols on her dress, then that's probably all people are gonna see in the drawing. It becomes propaganda.
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Being 'naturally' into nazi trash, anime trash or transgenderism has always been sign of a shit tier male. Just the lowest of the low when it comes to income, intelligence, sexual appeal, etc.
Swastikas aren't political, they are just random signs shit tier males find amusing because hurr nazi so edgy and cool
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I once considered drawing a Black woman using a strap-on on a Ku Klux Klan member wearing a dress, but I was afraid people would think I intended to make a political statement instead of just drawing some stupid, funny shit.
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>>7888492
>I always have an urge to draw swastikas, since childhood already, but I don't want my drawings to become just political propaganda.
believe it or not there are artists online who draw nazis and nazis in uniform just because it's something they like to study you should also know that having politics present in art doesn't necessarily make it a political piece
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>>7888579
adding that you cant really control how people want to view or use your art there's no sense in worrying about it being used for something you don't like you're better off just making it and whatever happens happens
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Sometimes I put politics in my stuff for the maymays but nothing serious (unless it’s against the (((you know who)))
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>>7888579
Yea, i guess the thing you just have to consider is if you actially put some thought into it, or if you just randomly add some political signs to your drawing. Drawing cool nazi uniforms actually requires effort, so that's ok to do, but just randomly injecting some political signs into your drawings comess off a bit cheap
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>>7888492
>Should art be political?
Depends on what you want to say. A lot of controversy stemmed from politics in art and media in recent years, but there's always been a certain degree of a political bend to almost all media.
The real issue wasn't the politics, even if you disagree with that political stance presented, the actual issue was the atrocious dogshit writing.
But generally speaking, if you want to be upfront and on the nose with a political message in your art, just be aware it's going to be polarising, and probably less popular than if it hadn't had politics.
>I always have an urge to draw swastikas
That sounds less like a political opinion, and more like a mental condition. Get checked for autism.
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>>7888492
>I always have an urge to draw swastikas, since childhood already
>self-expression
>>7888557
>I'm not going to pretend I don't like the things I like just to appear
This requires going meta to understand.
So, depending on who you surround yourself with they might interpret self-expression itself as inherently political, but others will see it as just whatever. This is because politics = indirect violence (to paraphrase Heinlein), and every group, microculture, subculture, and culture is made up of people who esteem and oppose certain values, with viewing it as justified to violently suppress some subset of the latter.
Even where "self-expression" is allowed, there are differences of definition. To some it is actually conveying the idea of simply choosing from a limited range of pre-set options, and deviating from this is responded to with various penalties, from purely social to violent ones. But there are others where self-expression means the individual is actively encouraged to develop themselves, and failing to self-actualize is considered a negative (immature, weak, etc). With gradients between these ends.
On a different plane there are some where it's not encouraged at all. You are expected and pressured to perform the role society provides for you, based on your history in the institutions and systems that constitute regular life.
All these groups inherently conflict when they are forced to mix, as their values are incompatible with each other. On their own there isn't actually anything "political" about this, however the other values a group holds can make it so. The answers to "when is violence justified?" and "what level of evidence is enough to judge someone?" determine this. If at least one group sees the other as worth leveraging violence against for their difference in values regarding self-expression - directly or through institutions like the state - THIS makes choices on this axis political in such a conflict.
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>>7889144
I know normies hate being made aware of the rules of the social games they all play, but you can surely come up with a more-fitting insult. Or maybe you can't, because I'm obviously aware of why you'd try to do so and am immune to it (especially here, an anonymous tibetan smoke signal interchange.)