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Love any critiques, as I'm soon to go through each page to color/ fix up errors, and particularly bad panels. So tell me what stood out as bad to you, art or writing wise.

Google drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1btrEGJmQLHvQGgYOzTDglqYrQ5dGFJx6

Imgur:
https://imgur.com/a/wealth-toil-work-progress-first-chapter-9ucpQ1J

Premise: "2 Influencers, 2 hitmen, and 2 living corpses, become entangled in a supernatural conspiracy"


Judging by the rough linework, would you keep reading?

I started this comic sort of as a test run, to improve my comic making skills, but I definitely stagnated in the middle, and wasn't as focused on improving as I shoulda been, partially due to alot of stupid life stuff, and only having a couple of free hours a day.

I just got a lot of time back permanently though (mostly due to my new job being mostly WFH), and just the last week, I did some proper thoughtful studies, and changed up some of my methods thanks to critiques from /manga/, and then did the 2 covers which I think are improvements.

Either way I'm gonna do alot of proper study, color this chapter, and then make the next chapter, actively making sure I'm happy with the art, and writing. I'm gonna have a lot more time to draw, and to focus on consistency.

Wealth for Toil is gonna be around 500 pages long so if its unreadable trash, then I'll just stop with it after a few chapters, and just take the lessons I learnt from it. I didnt start with my "magnum opus" specifically because everybody says first comics suck, so I dont mind stopping it after a while.
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>>7889509
Can you post it here?... also, are you Pawell?
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>>7889510
is the Imgur link good enough? its 86 pages long, and its 2 in the morning where I am (probably shoulda done this later, but I autistically wanted to get it done tonight), so if people want me to, i'll post it in the morning, also no sorry, dont know who Pawell is
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>>7889516
>86 pages
Yes that's a lot. But it would be really cool if you post all of it here. It will make a great thread for a change in this lacking board.
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>>7889516
You could just do highlights in that case, post parts you especially want to show off or want critique on or whatever.
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yeah might as well post it all here then.

TLDR is, im gonna color each page, love any critiques with what looks especially bad so I can change it along the way, as I'll be redrawing some panels and ive rewritten a fair bit of the dialogue to be more natural.

Got alot more time right now to focus on drawing, so I'll be doing more studies, and focusing on actually improving my art, cause I probably stagnated a bit on this
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Just to note, 2 cover I did this week, the rest I've been doing on and off since June 2025. Started traditional, and switched around page 75ish
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pages also arent cropped yet too.
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anyway thats it, as I said im gonna spend abit studying, so that my pages look more like the covers at the start, and like the artists im trying to emulate

Next chapter follows the 2 hitmen in the car, and the guy stalking them
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>>7889835
>>7889836
Youtubers betray
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GRATS, good luck bro
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>>7889964
>>7889966
Alright, I took the time to read all of it. WOW man, just wow, this is excellent stuff. You did, it, I just want to keep going through the story and see what the fuck is going on. A**l's demise is a big bummer, I hope you bring h** back somehow.
The only "critique" that I would have is about the "presentation-promotion" (aka the cover illustration page). I like getting into indie projects in a site like this so I went through the 80 pages as a personal task, with a hint that this was just a crime story. But most people out there won't even bother to read this without a clear indication that this is much more than an ordinary crime tale. You need a cover page that let people know that there's a supernatural, occult narrative side here, you can't hide that as a "surprise" nowadays, it's a crime that a work like this gets overlooked just because people are too lazy to even have the patience to read comics, people today need to get the first impression right. I don't know how that cool cover page would look like, you're the talent here, I guess this >>7889828 is pretty good, but still the supernatural bizarre element needs to be present to hook potential readers.
This is good anon, the time you put on this will be rewarded eventually, don't doubt it.

Also, don't get discouraged by the zero feedback on this site, users here are literal useless SHIT, they don't engage or care about anything with a depth beyond retard level. It's a good exercise in resilience though. Thanks for sharing this magnum opus anon. T'was a privilege to read this here first.
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more than i ever did, respect. i wrote about 200 words in the morning for my script what is like half a scene or maybe about a page or two depending how i panel it. i like your choice of colours in the pages that have them. i feel if you would do this for every page, you could elevate it quite a bit and distract from the still rough art in some places (not to be overtly critical of the anatomy and stuff). but as said, in terms of work effort and output youre above and beyond. vigorous.
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>>7891408
>Also, don't get discouraged by the zero feedback on this site, users here are literal useless SHIT,
four chins has gotten a lot slower since covid and since the blackout and new captcha recently, cant blame people for moving on really.
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>>7891413
I know, but that doesn't give a pass to the actual and present user base. Selfish little pricks. They shit on the few talents in this board. This guy post a whole fucking masterpiece, and these useless shits won't even get the time to read it once while they waste the whole day shitposting stupid shit about whatever that isn't actual drawing. They don't even deserve the air they breathe.
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>>7891446
to be fair, due to the internet, the market for art is very much oversaturated, so comics like OPs arent special anymore because there will be countless others that are similar. its harder than ever to stand out
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>>7891446
Kinda overreacting bro
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>>7891614
This is 4chan. I'm here to banter.
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>>7891615
K
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i personally don't like the art in the comic
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>>7891762
That's step one of a critique, next up should be specifics on why and what could improve.
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>>7891784
its going for particular style im not into, but it could be better if it was less messy, try shading better, try not cross hatch cause cross hatching in general looks kinda ugly, the anatomy could be improved a bit
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Thanks for the critiques

>>7891408
Appreciate the review, and I agree with what your talking about with "the hook", like I feel the start may not be interesting enough, and its just set up for the wacky shit I got planned later, but yeah I dont know if most people are gonna keep reading with the mid art

>>7891412
>>7891408
I currently coloring the chapter, just figured I'd get this out before hand, and give myself some time to examine some of the changes I need

>>7891412
>>7891847
>>7891762
and yeah I agree, im not a big fan of my currnet artwork, especially at the start. I started in June of last year, and Im taking a break now to do some short stories, to try and improve my art so it looks more like my studies in picrel.

Also btw>>7891762 im not>>7891784 but I do appreciate the critique. /mmg/ said the same stuff so im trying to improve rn

I'll add im not 100% on if I'll finish this right now, just cause my recent studies of art have been better, and I feel like the first chapter art might push people away. so I may end up starting another story in a few months but we'll see, ill definitely do the next chapter of this atleast for practise, as its only like 25 pages
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>>7891408
also yeah Aprils dead but not gone from the story

shes one of the living corpses i mentioned in the premise. "A" plot is gonna be April and Philip (who you can spot here and here>>7889964 >>7889868 ) after revenge before they rot away. B plot is Zach and May, and the 2 main antagonists are the 2 guys in the car here >>7889964

again, im taking some time now to do study, to trying and make my art look more like my studies here>>7891871
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>>7891871
>and yeah I agree, im not a big fan of my currnet artwork
thats a good additude, because you know you want more out of it, therefore making way towards improvement just out of wanting to. all it needs is to continue to draw and you'll get better naturally. keep it up, its already very stylish and moody, something even people with skill can barely ever scratch.

taste is something you can't learn, you either have the hunger for more or you dont. as long as you arent sated and stay hungry for more and better, you will become so. keep it up.
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>>7889509
Reading through the comic, and reading your replies and posts, please do make more comics. It's great, I really enjoyed reading it, and it's surprisingly long. Despite not being the most technically impressive in terms of artistic skills, it's absolutely brimming with potential. I'm rooting for your journey, anon. Got a blog?
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>>7889509
Haven’t looked closely yet (I’ll give a more thorough critique when I get a chance)but after just skimming through I can say the anatomy def needs a lot of work. Try to draw from life more and find a master artist to study from.
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>>7892000
i got a personal account on twitter i was thinking of turning into my art account, but im probably just gonna start from scratch, so not right now. but im working on some short romcom stories now that ill post here and probably make threads to get critiques, so by then i should have an art account

>>7892002
look forward to it

>>7891874
truth, only problem is ive been drawing for a bit, and my progress could be better, i probably havent been studying properly for abit

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