Which gook are we talking to on /int/? The small dicked manlet kind? Wait, that's all of you.

>>219516237
All of those are low IQ manlets

>>219516237
Im the mestizo and yes it is true, im located in the center but most Mexicans on int at least from what i have seen are northerners

>>219516259
Low iq? debatable, but im not short, im 5'9 or 5'10 which is the average for an American male although white Americans are probably taller than that on average

>>219516258

Indios usually have small ears, wypipo have big ears

>>219516339
Trvke

>>219516300
Lazy and wrong analysis. The darker your skin the less opportunities you get in this country, it has always been that way since the Spanish caste system began, but when it disappeared, lighter people getting better treatment and inheriting more wealth did not. Its kind of similar to how in the U.S. whites call black people low iq despite the fact that they disenfranchised them for decades and literally gave land away to whites for free (homestead act) while deliberately excluding black people from even voting or being free for a good chunk of American history.

Also, a castizo is a mestizo mixed with a Spaniard, so they still have indigenous blood but maybe like 25 percent.

>>219516237
El Norte es blanco or algo

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>>219516359
The north isn’t white it’s all guys who look like this

>>219516381
Maybe the border lurkers.

>>219516237
90% of them look like bottom left. I have never heard the term "euro-mestizo" before.

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is this a white Mexican

>>219516429
No

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>>219516300
I guess the Indios are those who live in that poor area in the south with the subcomandate Marcos

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>>219516699
Even a broken Macaco is right twice a day

>>219516237
>North is lighter skinned than south
I've seen this film before.

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>>219516354
>Also, a castizo is a mestizo mixed with a Spaniard, so they still have indigenous blood but maybe like 25 percent.
So what's a euro-mestizo?

>>219516796
They just made that shit up they didn’t even put any effort into it, notice how they all say the same thing

>>219516796
Bullshit made up term, it is not part of the official caste system terminology, but i guess its supposed to be like a white passing person with indigenous blood according to the meme? the official term for a fully white Spaniard in Mexico is Peninsular (which means, they were born in the Spanish peninsula or simply spain) and criollos (if they are fully Spanish genetically but they were born in the Americas).

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>>219516699
Worry about your country macaco

>>219516943
The monkey is right

>>219516354
>Less opportunities excuses bad behavior and being a shit human being
It doesn't. And you're supposed to disenfranchise people who are shit members of society and push the interests of your own people and culture, that's called having a civilization. It doesn't mean that blacks aren't Low-IQ (They are) or that they shouldn't be excluded (They should). Just like the Mexicans.

>>219516943
conquistadors were jews

>>219516968
No, i'm right

>>219516237
The bottom two represent 90% of the population

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>>219516943
Northerners look like this o algo

>castizos mixed with a spaniard = a spaniard according to the caste system
How was the literal Spanish caste system less racist than modern /int/?

>>219517051
Progressives are racist chuds

>>219517051
because anglos/germanics have a more strict and superior form of racism which /int/ follows

>>219516258
Bodied that freak

>>219516237
until recently, i did not know white mexicans existed
i helped someone on the side of the road who looked 100% white and we got into conversation and it turned out she was mexican.
that was the first and probably last time that will happen
i've seen thousands of mexicans that looked brown, thoughbeit

>>219517209
import more Mexicans

>>219517051
Spanish racism was just crazy. An ethnic Spaniard born in the Americas was in a lower tier than an ethnic Spaniard born in Spain in the caste system but at the same time they mixed with the natives.

>>219516983
I never said less opportunities excuses crime, but its important to realize that poverty and crime are connected because if you want to reduce crime You need to give opportunities to people.

>disenfranchise people who are bad members of society.

That is not how it works, racism is built on the idea that you have an original sin, one which cannot be erased no matter what you do and for that reason you need to be discriminated against.

Black people are also part of your culture and they are your people. You know what actual collapse looks like? seeing your countrymen as foreign entities whom you are supposed to permanently be at odds with. That is identity politics.

>>219516943
Youre a Mexican who validates the US and believes that having less melanin in your skin makes you someone. Worry about your selfesteem, bro.

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>>219516354
>RACISM made me do crystal meth and join criminal extortion rings, which I can’t help but do since I’m brown
200 years and counting that we’ve been paying for the catastrophic sin of giving indios human rights

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>>219516943

I’ll never understand small 2 inch white wiener cracker incel pussys who talk about Asia every day to deflect from their ugly Incel cope from being ugly fucking losers

my girflriend is a hot polish-american blonde fat ass and i see the way white boys look at me when i walk around withtheir women its funny.
After all white ‘males’ worship black men in sports and white women fuck them all the time before settling with a shrimp dicked cracker incel pissy cuck pig
A lot of white girls play with non-white men in arizona :)
A generation of emasculated pussy, weak shrimp, dick white males Raised on blacked.com and anime LOL

You have no right to criticize Mexicans, Asians, Black people, Indian people or Jewish people we take your woman in your own countries fucking crackers

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>>219517325
What a retarded comment. There are castizo and criollo (fully white) narcos. Are you illiterate? its literally the opposite. I said that not economic opportunities to people pushes them to dark places like crime, this is the history of blacks in America and browns in Latin America.

>>219517325

> I said that not giving* economic opportunities to people pushes them to dark places like commiting crime.

Chuds dont have solutions for the problems of our country, you certainly dont. Your intelligence is so low that you actually believe that striping people of their rights and economic opportunities is going to make the country better. I dont know why I gave you the time of day.

>>219517272
They're not my countrymen, they're the children of slaves, who were the slaves of people who decided to bring them here long before I was even born when they shouldn't have. This place is supposed to belong to the settlers who fought and died for it and their descendants, not the descendants of the farm equipment. Citizenship is not supposed to be for sale or for people to legislate away, you're supposed to be born to it, so that other people in your nation can trust that your interest is the same as their interest because you are of the same people. Having two or more groups of people trying to coexist in the same nation is trouble waiting to happen, because there can only be one group on top in any hierarchy, and inevitably its going to cause friction when things aren't fair, and things are never fair in any system.

I didn't bring them here, and the fact that someone did should be on them, we shouldn't have to cede citizenship to people who are not like ourselves just because someone made a mistake 200 years ago.

Why hate indigenous people if they are not of purer blood than mestizos? Perhaps it is simply because your limited intelligence continues to believe that being white is the ultimate goal, and not just something physical. Being white is not an identity.

>>219517325
Even if you are racist and dont think that people should have rights. Conduct a simple thought experiment.

What would happen if you take something that belongs to someone? would they be happy? would they thank you? No, they will beat you, they will protest, they will riot. Of course, you are a retarded 4chan norteño and as such, you do not understand the most basic things about economics, history or any discipline in general. Its a mistake to even pretend like you have the ability to process a moderately complex explanation of anything.

>>219517465
You're not even purebred, that's not your land, you just stole it, so what are you complaining about?

>>219517490
What you mean is, to be more accurate, it was not the land of my forebears, to which I would respond that they fought and killed for it against the natives and your countrymen and won it fairly on the field of battle. If you want to fight over it again, I'm sure we can arrange that, but until that happens it is still our land by way of combat and yu can fuck right off.

>You just stole it
What are you going to do about it, faggot?

>>219517465
Its not even a viable goal to deport 13 percent of the population. Even within the white population of America, some of them are Polish, others are German or English American, that alone would bring down your argument that different peoples cannot coexist peacefully but I will go beyond that and say its because you decided to make the category of ethnicity irrelevant, which it wasnt always that way. Being Irish or Italian could make you the target of discrimination in the past. But America decided to focus on race instead. At the same time black people fought in many wars to protect America or its hegemony. WW1, WW2. Italians and other groups of white Americans did not fight during the American revolution either (as they belong to latter waves of migration), should they then be kicked out too or?.

>>219517517
jajaj I'll translate that for you: it's called stealing. Your ancestors were liars, and they didn't respect treaties with the true natives, the true Americans, and I'm going to do the same thing that you contributed to stealing from your country, nothing.

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>>219517465
I guess the ''farm equipment'' as you call them also fought during the American revolution and died for America.

>>219517532
>Its hopeless and so you should do nothing
>Its not viable to fix and so you should do nothing
Okay, but that doesn't fix the problem that there are a lot of people living here who are not us, who do not represent our nation the way we represent our nation and so there's inevitably going to be conflict about how this nation should be conducted, who should rule it, and who is going to have to do the dying in the next set of wars. The fact that its not viable to deport them really only leaves two options - they can leave peaceably on their own or inevitably we can wait for this to blow up and fight each other to the death over it, in which case the survivors are the new owners of the land. But coexistance with the settlers didn't help the Natives, so don't try to argue that coexistance with the Mexicans is going to be good for the Americans. People are right to correctly identify that immigrants are an invading force, and that two groups of people forced to coexist always inevitably exterminate one of the two groups over it. See every example in history from Homo Sapiens v Neanderthal to Rome v. Vandals to the Sea Peoples v Bronze Age Society.

Can you promise that none of the blacks, Mexicans, Italians, Irish, or any of the other groups who were not part of the original settlers are absolutely loyal to those settlers and their children and will not in any way target them, try to disenfranchise them, or otherwise become hostile to the people who belong here? No, of course you can't. So don't act like its not justified to identify them as a threat and do anything we have to in order to survive at their expense. Because they are a threat, and it will be at our expense.

>>219517405
Brutal negative canthal tilt

>>219517560
So did the farm equipment. Thousands of horses and mules died in those wars, we're not giving them any citizenship. What makes them special?

>>219517362
Didn't read nerd lol

the lebanese merchant kind

>>219517574
I think you have a point when talking about first and second maybe even third gen immigrants having more loyalty to their countries of origin than to America and I think the ideal scenario would absolutely be that people who live in America have a connection to its history like having their ancestors be present during the Americanr revolution. On the other hand I feel like the only people who want an interracial war are chuds. But I cant deny that some sectors of the left have been somewhat antagonistic to white people to varying degrees. I cant guarantee nothing bad will happen to any group of people. I hope things can get resolved peacefully because It doesnt seem like major demographic trends are going to be reversed.

America is very polarized by race politically but they all identify as Americans. Germanic tribes did not identify as Romans or viceversa. They had no ethnic or sense of civic national unity.

>>219517405
Those people are the bosses, do you really think the 25k death of people per year are from mostly white looking people? You're delusional

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>>219516765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71wVbvJvaVA

>>219517703
He tried to say that only browns participate in the drug trade. Im not arguing what role white people play . But he said the drug trade was a racial issue, one of browns only. Im showing him all ethnic groups are part of it, even if the roles are different.

>>219516237
The mestizoes

>>219516237
Pretty sure 99% look like the Mestizos, but idk and i don't care to know they are all exactly the same to me

>>219517688
A surprisingly lucid and reasonable reply. It could be you have some right of it. I remain rather skeptical that people really can become a melting pot - after all, the English, Scottish and Welsh have been living together since the pre-Roman era, and after more than 1,500 years of coexistence, they are still three separate peoples with three separate cultures, despite being all white, all protestant, and all living in the same space. In my mind, this tells us that humanity is wired to coexist, but never to assimilate - that any two groups of people living together will always remain two groups and that those allegiances will never be truly unified.

That said... there really are no good solutions. Demographic collapse, civil war... really none of the ends we have available to us for the situation we've been put in are good or forward-thinking. I'd like to believe that groups like La Raza are just a tiny minority, and that most of the minority groups that live here hold no ire or hatred towards the American colonials. But personal experience has taught me that a great many people have that chip on their shoulder, and that our ancestors found out the hard way that what you don't know can kill you.

I'd be interested to know if you have any further thoughts on this, fren. Did the disparate groups of people in your own nation ever melt together? Are they still separate classes that are treated differently, as OP's image suggests?

>>219516259
brutal TRVTHNVKE

>>219516258
*drugged and raped by small vietnamese penis

>>219518069
There is colorism. There isnt as much racial discourse. Perhaps because we have larger problems. (the drug trade, poverty, high homicide rate). Those things are the object of politics, not really race. Because race mixing has always been present, even before independence, there isnt as much of a concept of racial purity, being white passing or not matters more than your actual genetic composition. Precisely because race mixing was a phenomenon, more brown people in the past and even in the present instead of coming up with some social movement, they just aspired to marry white or white passing people to have lighter skinned descendants. I feel like in America, racism was stronger. You couldnt vote, marry a person of another race and for a longer period of time you were even enslaved and that is more present in the minds of Americans but because it was stronger, anti racism also became stronger. You have black models, there are almost no brown models in Mexico. People outside of some leftist circles rarely talk about the historical disparities in the way that brown people were treated relative to white people, but there arent that many purebred whites obviously. Being a thirdie country is more relevant to the nation's politics than ethnicity.

>>219518283
People do forget that it wasn't really a racial discourse issue in its original iterations. Its true that people resisted black integration because of how radically different they were culturally and genetically but people also resisted the Irish and Italian diaspora despite being white, because they were also Catholic, and the nation was founded by Protestants fleeing Catholic persecution in Europe.

The point is not 'we hate non-whites', the point is 'we hate non American Colonials'. All people who are not us, because the colonists came from a place where other white, christian people who were not the same flavor of christian were engaging in the murder and disenfranchisement of them. They had learned that people with any sort of difference, be it religious, racial, cultural, color, or even ideology, was extremely dangerous, and they didn't want to replicate Europe's wars in America, so it was important to keep America in a state where all the people who were included within its system were white, protestant, Anglo and part of the original colony stock. (The WASPs)

The racial issue comes much later, when people start harping about full integration of Chinese in the West in the very early 1900s, and then even later when the Blacks started demanding equal representation in the 1960s. Americans identified this as outside forces coming in and demanding part of their homeland, that they had fought and died for. The actions of slave-owners don't justify the forcible integration of their slaves into that political system, and its often forgotten that many blacks sold their countrymen into that slavery, and many whites died to end it, which means technically, blacks should owe reparations to the children of white soldiers who died giving them their freedom.

The real core of the issues was always 'people who are not us may try to kill us and take what we have, and if we don't keep the nation homogenous in every way, people will use it against us'.

All beheaded btw

>>219516237
Memes are supposed to be funny. This is just a basic overview of Mexicans

>>219519526
if we apply this shallow stereotypical view to your own cunt then you'd be a stabbing victim of some random veneco

>>219519610
Would be funny if the added a gutless pole hanged from the upside down, maybe OP should try it.

>>219516943
Vgh, viva la raza o algo

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>>219519830
Could you repeat, please?

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just get as white as nick fuentes
>~70%
easy bros?
im 100% european.

>>219516293
>but im not short, im 5'9 or 5'10
anon, I...

>>219516258
Oof

>>219516237
Gem

>castizo, mestizo, chorizo, bullicio, pepinicio, harnizo, mierdicio, indigenicio, catrilicio

Ridicule categories for a brown country.

>>219516237
hehe im pictured there

>>219517574
>blacks, Mexicans, Italians, Irish, or any of the other groups who were not part of the original settlers
I'm pretty sure all these groups together outnumber you at this point so what is the point of being gung-ho for an ethnic war now?

>>219516258

Nobody uses these terms here

This is americans trying to apply their racialized world-view unto other countries in other to understand & explain them to the rest of the world

Empires have always fuction that way

>>219516237
Castizos and euro-mestizos are build for feminization in my country

>>219526927
Because numbers don't really have any bearing on the way war is conducted any longer and haven't since before WW1. One man with a machine gun is capable of killing ten thousand men, one man with a biochemical laboratory is capable of killing half the human race. Force multipliers have far, far exceeded the need to have a standing army, its simply that people misconstrue the fact that the reason we still use 'boots on the ground' is because one function of warfare is to get people to die, so that the remaining people can have more for themselves - its been a way for society to bleed off angry young men since the ancient age.

If we wanted to delete_mexico.exe tomorrow, someone could simply tailor a prion or a supervirus to wipe them off the face of the Earth, its not required that the race war be a conventional war in the streets with rifles and pitchforks. We need only establish the intellectual precedent that foreigners are a danger, and push the money and power in our system to do something about it. Being outnumbered is not an issue, the lack of political will is the issue.

>>219527420
>Our racism is a function of the Americans, its always the Americans
Rent fucking free. Your racism is a function of the Spaniards, who had their own Empire and their own system of racial classifications. America didn't even exist yet when the terms 'Mestizo' and 'Castizo' were first invented, Anon. Not everything is Americans, you don't have to use us as your boogeyman when the enemy actually lives in the mirror. Your society is responsible for its own foibles, and you're going to have to fix them yourselves without anyone to blame but yourselves.

>>219529649
WRONG!
Raycism only exist becouse of wypipo

>>219529872
No, racism exists because people are different, simple as. Our ancestors learned the hard way that since we're at the top of the food chain, the most poignant threat to them was always other human beings who were not the same as themselves. Don't be so reductionist, every culture since the beginning of time has both loathed and feared that which is not like themselves, Jesus ate with the Lepers, but that was because he was an exceptionally good sport.

While we're on the subject, you may want to deal with that chip on your shoulder. If whites ever actually stop doing what they do to make society work, you're going to find yourself in a very rough and unforgiving world. No electricity, no modern machine tools, no internet and no space travel to get off this planet, and with all the surface deposits of oil and coal mostly mined out by now, the chances of society ever advancing back to where we are are miniscule. In the same vein, whites will never survive the expansion out into space entirely by ourselves, there aren't enough of us to colonize other planets as ethno-states. There aren't even enough of us to maintain ethno-states here on Earth. Like it or not, we all need each other.

>>219529649
>. Your racism is a function of the Spaniards, who had their own Empire and their own system of racial classifications.

Didnt exist. Spanish imperialism was feudal imperialism. It was not based on race but on estate. There were noble indians who socially above the american-born spanish settlers.

>>219529649
>America didn't even exist yet when the terms 'Mestizo' and 'Castizo' were first invented

These terms weren't used during the Spanish Colony. They were brought up & popularized by William H. Prescott (an american). Indeed, your whole understanding of Mesoamerica & modern Mexico stems from William H. Prescott writings

>>219529954
not true raycism only exist becuz of THE WHYTE DEVIL!!! befo dat all men lived in peace and harmony amongus eachother

>>219529964
Every form of racism has a reason other than just race, Anon, that's part of what I'm trying to say. People are defending their own best interests against people who are not like them, be it based on income or color or creed or social standing. Fundamentally, the core issue is that people are not equal, and people who consider themselves more equal than others have a vested interest in keeping other groups of people down so that they can have more.

It doesn't absolve you of the fact that the Spaniards protected their own interests from the Aztecs and the indigenous peoples of Mexico, and they invented a caste system meant to keep people who were not themselves down. That was not America, that was you. You have to accept responsibility for your own actions.

>>219530046

Nice word salad

But this has nothing to do with the fact that these terms (mestizo, castizo, etc) are not used in Mexico, but rather have become popular in the Internet due to american-racialized idiosyncrasy

The fact that you're denying this simple fact, while also being pro-racialist befuddle me

>>219530140
Anon, nothing that has ever been done in Mexico has been the deliberate engineering of Americans. We already dictated a forced surrender without terms after the Treaty of Guadaloupe Hidalgo. We had the ability and the impetus to just absorb Mexico as a state after that, we chose not to because we did not want to deal with the people or the management of your homeland, not because we couldn't. If we wanted to fuck Mexico over forever, we could have done it at that point, but instead of that we just redrew the maps along the Rio Grande and left you to your own devices.

Sooner or later, you're going to have to accept responsibility that the only people keeping Mexicans down are other Mexicans. You can reform your country to a better standard whenever you like, you can go out and exterminate the Cartels whenever you're prepared to do the fighting and the dying required. That is not America's fault, and it is not America's job. We washed our hands of you and everything that happens in your nation is the fault and responsibility of your nation.

Regardless of what you think about us, you are not our problem. Like it or not, you're going to have to square with that someday.

>>219516237
irl there's only güeros, morenos e indios

>>219530236
>We already dictated a forced surrender without terms after the Treaty of Guadaloupe Hidalgo. We had the ability and the impetus to just absorb Mexico as a state after that, we chose not to because we did not want to deal with the people or the management of your homeland, not because we couldn't. If we wanted to fuck Mexico over forever, we could have done it at that point, but instead of that we just redrew the maps along the Rio Grande and left you to your own devices.

No, sir. The war killed 25-30k americans and took 2 years. Mind you, this was at the beginning of the XIXth century, with a mexican army that was only nominally an army, but in reality it was all conscripted peasant & and Mexican government that was broke due to its independence war. Meanwhile Yankees had have an stable government for 50 years.

Even in those conditions, these casualties weren't acceptable and Polk was becoming unpopular.

The idea that Mexico exists because the "compassion of the US" is historical ignorant & inacurate.

The country exists because thousands of mexican men & youngmen spilled blood & put up a fight against the superior-armed Yankees.

>>219516258
fpbp

>>219531735
>Stable government for 50 years
Anon, we still couldn't even agree as a nation that it was a government. That's why Texas is known as the Lone Star State, they tried to break off and create their own singular-state government with its own money and its own military that the United States actually fought against at the same time that both sides fought the Mexicans. On top of that, we were still fighting the Natives, and continued to do so until Geronimo all the way over in California Territory in the 1880s. We had in no way been 'A stable government for 50 years', and Americans didn't even agree on the military needing to exist until WW2 came around - in fact, after WW1, we down-sized our military until even Belgium had more standing troops than us. We were the world's 23rd largest military at the time.

I know that you like to paint this grand idea about brave Mexicans marching to honorable defeat, but the actual fact of the matter is that you were fighting a disunified, demilitarized state in which most citizens were more concerned with personal profits and ducking the Federal Government than any idea of pan-American unity. We continued to have inter-state wars well up into the early 1900s, and clashes between whites and minority groups all the way into the 1970s and beyond.

You can keep blaming America for your problems, but those accusations are baseless and show a total grasp of unreality. If you ever want Mexico to be a better place, it starts with Mexicans taking control of their own nation and adopting a better standard than the cartels, or your own government, and then forcing its people to adhere to that better standard. It does not in any way start with 'But the US', or any other kind of whataboutism.

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>>219516237
this one

>>219516258
bodied

>>219516258
Frog dropping a nuke.