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How is Francisco Franco remembered in your country? I'm seeking answers from Spanish anons but /esp/ seems to be gone
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>>219616374
You want to have sex with franco?
>>219616314
Most people in my country don't talk about him but i think he was the best head of state Spain has had in it's modern history. Que Dios lo tenga en su gloria.
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>>219617351
you 100% look like this
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In Spain, his figure is increasingly being celebrated by a large segment of teenagers and young adults. This is causing concern among liberals, leftists, Freemasons, and traitors in general.
https://youtu.be/z2q80HZPuBs
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>>219616314
Spaniarditos and Spaniarditas are insecure because they feel that Franco held them back from being a "proper" White liberal European country. I believe that it is this repressed sensation of missing power (remember there was a relatively recent period in the grand scheme of history when Spain ruled the world) that manifests as the insane Nth degree imitation of the luxury beliefs of the post Cold War Power
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>>219616350
Mexican director made me knew him
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>>219617523
>Under his rule Spain stagnated as a quasi rural and isolated shithole. What are you talking about.
He's talking about SEAT and a gorillion other metal-mechanical industries you didn't get to see because they were for inner market
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>>219616314
VIVA FRANCO!
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>>219617575
>Mexican director made me knew him
Ridiculous propaganda. Everyone involved in such an insult to the viewer's intelligence should be considered persona non grata in Spain. And as a film, it's utter garbage (like everything by Del Toro).
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>>219617598
Better than blowing your load during 2 world wars and then bringing brownoids to destroy what's left of your culture, whose children will talk shit about Spain in Chinese basket weaving forums because they fear going outside and getting turned into breakfast for a newer wave of brownoids
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>>219617578
>that was the UK, iberians never controlled anything of value
Retard, troll or both? My guess is both...
>>219617598
>Spain has never, ever come close to world domination. Their entire legacy is just conquering weak people and plundering their gold which they managed to also blow away like retards.
Another retard... Any literate person with even a basic knowledge of world history knows the truth (and even some illiterate, like your countryman Hitler).
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kek the vira lata thirdie dogs are seething at being the product of the failures of europe, not superior NW europe
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>>219617598
Before Anglos ruled the world, it was the Spanish empire upon which the sun never set
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diego it's 5:45am there, are you ready for a long day of serving beeros to hated anglos and german tourists?
>>219617766
you will never be spanish
not a single relevant country speaks spanish
it will never be a relevant empire
it will always be trash
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Unable to take revenge
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>>219617744
>The only time an Argentinian puts a German in their place is when they show them their seats at a restaurant eagerly waiting to serve them drinks and beg for a 2€ tip. (Monthly salary in Argentina)
Why is working something to be ashamed for to you?
Is this an Izzat thing?
Is it Haram o algo?
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>>219617643
Aesthetically it's good, that goes for most Del Toro films. Ironically enough he pines for and imitates the sort of highly developed aesthetic that can only develop in a society utterly anathema to his pinko lefty values, which turn everything they touch into a lawless flea market (case in point Mexico City).
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>>219617779
Spain and Spanish speaking countries are trash. But that has nothing to do with Francisco Franco, the point is that he industrialized Spain and brought stability to it because the communists or the anarchists would have destroyed the country
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>>219617819
>its da jooos fault we never accomplished anything o algo
meanwhile the peak of spanish intellectual thought
>do unbaptized babies go to hell or not? let's argue for 400 years about it o algo
dumb papist dogs
glad you've been cucked and zutted post vatican 2
you learn your place
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>World War with eternal repercussions between every race and creed on the planet? Whatever i dont care gringos. I'm tired every since france and america took my empire away.
>what??? diego from a village 10km away wants to take TWO siestas a day instead of just one?
>COMMIE SCUM O ALGO
>I will now commence to tear my country apart, kill my own people and send moors to rape my own women to defend the anglo-judaic practice of (((capitalism))) despite spending almost all of my history fighting against them because it's in my nature and blood as an iberian to live and die in the interest of foreign rulers
Why did spain do it?
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>>219617523
Leftists are addicted to lying because your entire worldview is built on lies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_miracle
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>>219617788
Literally kept as a buffer between manolos and frogs, illiterate chicano creatura
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>>219617812
>Aesthetically it's good, that goes for most Del Toro films. Ironically enough he pines for and imitates the sort of highly developed aesthetic that can only develop in a society utterly anathema to his pinko lefty values, which turn everything they touch into a lawless flea market (case in point Mexico City).
Nope. All his movies are garbage. You should be proud of true talented mexican directors like Emilio "Indio" Fernández and not that fat fuck.
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>>219617863
>he must a a brown rapebaby like me o algo
kek, you'll never have Blue Eyes like us Superior Germanics
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>>219617553
Just calling a spade a spade, leftyrat.
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>>219617842
You're deviating from the object of the thread which is discussing the legacy of Francisco Franco
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raped by africans for 800 years kek
pathetic
>>219617888
you realize that faildox is an argie, right?
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they learn their place
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>>219617881
>You're deviating from the object of the thread which is discussing the legacy of Francisco Franco
It's always the same trolls with the same ridiculous pics and retarded lies. They always make fools of themselves, but they never get tired of it.
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>>219617881
the first post is about franco and how he was a good slave of the hated anglo judaic enemies of spain
The Ultimate Spanish Cuckold, in fact. not a point of pride but a point of shame for you hispanistas
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>>219617863
My father did his military service in the Western Sahara when it still was a part of Spain.
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>>219617900
>you realize that faildox is an argie, right?
Only a nosaboid or a Muslim would seethe this hard at Spain of all countries, kek
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this is nuts
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>>219617933
He probably looks like this though
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>>219616314
I don't think most people here know about him beyond his name and the fact that he was a fascist.
So they probably just think "oh yeah, he was fascists and therefore bad" and have no idea what he actually did and to be honest I barely know much about him either.
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>>219617933
nope, by attacking iberimoors with their negro blood and papist ways i can indirectly attack all 650M of you brown thirdies as you derive your pathetic claims to be white by claiming to be part moor
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>>219617943
Let me tell you...
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>>219617873
>kek, you'll never have Blue Eyes like us Superior Germanics
This poor man still thinks he's fooling anyone. Now he's also traumatized by not being "Germanic" and not having blue eyes in the Jewnited States. Have some dignity, hombre.
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kek they're so mad about their african eyes
they'll never have True Whiteness like us
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>>219617956
If spaniards arent white then they are winning
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>>219617953
>starve the population while mismanage the economy
>when people revolt you hind behind "le defending Christianity from le godless commies"
>turn spain into a debt slave to Germany just becuse you wanted to kill your own people instead of bettering their lives
he's basically the shah of iran if the shah won a civil war against Khomeini
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>>219618026
you will never be spanish
you will always be a chicano
you will never be le epic med tradcath latin roman conquisator crusader
you are just a rapebaby of moor rape babies.
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>>219617553
yeah, you are traitors and also, faggots
>>219617598
they never lost two world wars either, dumbass hahhahhahah
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>>219618037
>there's brown people like me in brown containment states so you're not white o algo
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>>219617992
It's quite grim for Americans. You can't really blame them for going on the Internet and talking shit to vent. They have so much to cope about.
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>>219618051
you get arrested for saying anything mean about rapefugees in your country
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your own country imports more and more browns and you cannot stop them
>>219617900
you are not sovereign, you are ruled by krauts and frogs via the EU
they are going to bring in infinite indians on top
you are far worse than us. our states and society has been set up to deal with nonwhites as we've had blacks since forever.
You have no way to contain the nonwhites in your lands
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>we will replace you gring-
ACK
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>>219618010
How many times are you gonna humiliate yourself by repeating the same lie, you lying low-IQ brown commie turd?
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My NW European Ancestors Defeated Muslims
Yours were Raped by them for Centuries
Simple as
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oh kek thirdies and moors are seething because of the iran strike
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>>219618094
mutt education
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>>219618138
>My NW European Ancestors Defeated Muslims
>Yours were Raped by them for Centuries
>Simple as
F in History.
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>>219616314
Franco in Mexico is considered the "devil" just because a lot of exiled Spanish commies who fled after they lost the Civil War came here and stablished themselves in different schools and universities as teachers and counselors where they brainwashed our youth into thinking communism was actually the best system ever and everyone should aspire to be a commie even if that meant making war against the government. I wish I was memeing.
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>true talented mexican directors like Emilio "Indio" Fernández
That fag was even more of a fraud than Del Toro. At least Del Toro never lies about his intentions and accepts everything he makes is Hollywood slop instead of passing his work as "high art" or some crap like that.
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Advances and Advantages Attributed to the Regime of Francisco Franco
1. Creation and Expansion of the Middle Class
Significant economic growth during the 1960s (“Spanish Miracle”).
Industrialization and modernization of key sectors.
Growth of urban employment opportunities.
Expansion of consumer goods ownership (cars, appliances, etc.).
2. Development of Social Security
Expansion of the national social security system.
Broader access to healthcare services.
Introduction and consolidation of pension systems.
Worker protections through state-controlled labor structures.
3. Massive Housing Construction
Construction of millions of subsidized housing units.
Promotion of home ownership.
Urban development projects to accommodate rural-to-urban migration.
4. Extra Salary Payments (“Pagas Extras”)
Institutionalization of the 13th and 14th monthly salary payments.
Mandatory extra pay in summer and at Christmas.
Strengthening of certain labor benefits within the state framework.
5. Infrastructure Development
Expansion of road networks and highways.
Development of dams and hydroelectric plants.
Growth of tourism infrastructure (especially coastal areas).
6. Industrial and Economic Growth
Stabilization Plan of 1959, opening the economy to foreign investment.
Rapid GDP growth during the 1960s.
Expansion of key industries such as automotive, steel, and shipbuilding.
7. Public Order and Internal Security
Strong centralized state control.
Suppression of crime and political unrest through strict law enforcement.
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>t.
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>>219616314
with such a name you'd think theyd make him french but then they make him spanish like wtf
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>>219616314
>/esp/ seems to be gone
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>>219625110
Franco was far from incompetent, he was actually a cunny bastard that planned every move he did.
Actually, the nationalist side was lucky their first leaders died in retarded accidents and that Franco became the sole ruler few months after the war started. He was the most competent leader of that whole shitshow.
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>>219618051
>implying
The northeast is still one of the Whitest areas of the country.
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>>219618041
One gyros with extra tzatziki please. Ans hurry up.
>>219625767
One taco please
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>>219616314
The guy who mass murdered communist degenerates who were going around murder raping nuns to death and assassinating random conservatives around Spain. How anyone can read through Homage to Catalonia and not think that the leftists were rabid animals in the civil war is beyond me
The nationalists literally did nothing wrong and its a shame that Franco was too lenient on the leftists post war
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>>219632649
>Franco sent in moors to rape leftist whores
As they fucking deserved, also the Army of Africa was half Spanish and half moorish. The nationalists in general paraded Republican whores through the streets and fucked them into submission for being too uppity, at least the ones who werent shot because leftists unironically sent women to the front lines
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>can't be racist because brown
>can't be nationalist because country is bad
>cope by attempting to be hispanista nationalist
reminder that an ANGLOGOD flew the moor-sender to spain to do the bidding of Anglo Judaic Capitalism (your sworn enemy for centuries)
you learn your place paco
subverted and cucked
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>>219632962
>still going
Lol, lmao even. Take the L, commie
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>*cucks you into exhuming your brown nationalist god emperor to teach you your place*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhumation_and_reburial_of_Francisco_Fra nco
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>>219633052
>Spanish Americans just dont exist
Guernica best day of my fucking life
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>>219633160
*dabs*
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fyi
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>>219632801
>As they fucking deserved
How can you even utter this while simultaneously regurgitating virtue-signaling talking points against the republicans in >>219632615?
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>>219633684
>murder rape nuns
>try to ban religion
>murder conservatives including children in the street
>mass murder anyone at all for being "anti revolutionary"
>NOOOOOOOOOO DONT DO IT BACK TO US
Nah, get purged. Rape correction and mass executions for commies isnt going far enough
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>ChudGPT
You're an insane leftist lunatic, probably a leftypol freak.
If anything, ChatGPT has been trained through RLHF to be left-leaning and anti-Franco.
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People here keep trying to compare the republican side and the nationalist side of the civil war to modern politics but the reality is that both sides were fucking crazy in one way or another.
Imo Franco was just a figurehead, a man of his time that ended up in power just as any other person similar to him could have ended up in his position. He said multiple times that he didn't want to be a politician and so he usually relegated the management of the state to others, and either he was lucky or he knew who to chose for the job since he at least did that correctly in regards to the economy. Even though I'm of right wing views and I probably would have supported the nationalist side I hold no sympathy for him, and I think that the people who idealise him are just trying to reminisce better times that are never coming back or delude themselves by thinking that if we were to get another figure who was similar enough to Franco everything would be okay.
If Franco's to-be succesor, Carrero Blanco, wasn't assassinated and people would have had to continue living through years of a totalitarian estate I doubt we would be seeing this idealized view of a right wing dictatorship nowadays. I think the francoist regime was a tough but necessary measure to reestablish order and stability, but once his job was done I'm glad we got to transition into a democracy.
Now that we are reaching high levels of discontent again people yearn for those same measures but it doesn't matter because Franco is dead and those days are never coming back. It's just a slow decline for most of Europe that I really really hope can be solved democratically
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>>219634881
>It's just a slow decline for most of Europe that I really really hope can be solved democratically
le mao
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anglo-american even
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>>219633809
its crazy how deeply we've psyopped you kek
you're a good slave. we've properly buckbroken iberians so they'll never be a threat to our empire
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>>219616314
Nobody cares about him but a few retards, nowadays it's just meme material
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>>219637340
he is the canonical representative of nationalism and racism within iberia and hispanistas online
it wont matter in the end because the germanofrench globalist will always keep you cucked via the EU but it would have been a third position option for spain to kick its muslims out and attempt to larp as an empire with racist racemixed thirdies.
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>>219637427
you will never be spanish sanchez
he fought for anglos and jews, the hated enemy of spain and its canonical opponents as a nation state
with his ascenion to power, spain ceased to exist as a philosophic entity, it is no surprise that today it is just a puppet of the french and germans via the EU
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>Irish mutt thinks Franco was a zionist
The cope is unreal. Jewish masonic anglos and their Irish golems deserve nothing but a painful death through impalement
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capitalism is objectively anglo-judaic (and masonic, i always forget you seethe about that boogeyman too kek)
you fought for your enemy paco
you lost
we won
you mass murdered and raped your own people to do our bidding
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Kast
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>>219637405
I doubt any notmie here knos about hospanistas. Regarding the current immigration, the current government is trying to whiteeash it and lie about how good are we doing. The truth is that we',LL switch the next year for the "other" party which will try to sell us the same shit.
On the end "the line must keep going up" no matter how do we do it.
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>>219637801
>I doubt any notmie here knos about hospanistas
well yes, this is a 4chan fight (4chan is a website designed around being as chuddy as possible, which means it is in practice a forum for competitive racism/nationalism/etcism)
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>>219637405
Karl Marx was a Jew.
The Bolsheviks were disproportionately Jews.
Naftali Botwin was a Jew.
Mate Zalka was a Jew.
George Nathan was a Jew.
Milton Wolff was a Jew.
Manfred Stern was a Jew.
John Gates was a Jew.
Waclaw Komar was a Jew.
Arthur Koestler was a Jew.
Simone Weil was a Jew.
Carl Einstein was a Jew.
Yank Levy was a Jew.
Edward Barsky was a Jew.
Fanny Edelman was a Jew.
These were all Republicans.
Keep schizoposting if you want.
You're only humiliating yourself.
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>>219637895
racism is just pattern recognition
can't have intelligence without racism
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It's funny how nu-chuds idolize Franco when he was a fag with an obnoxious lisp (even for spanish standards) and sicced moroccan rapists on thousands of Spanish women. Morally corrupt worms with no real convictions and beliefs. He also bastardized the Falangist movement. His "felangism" didn't even remotely resemble what Primo de Rivera wanted for the country.
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>>219638123
There is nothing deranged about killing commie vermin.
They're a violent existential threat who need to be dealt with through lethal force.
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trvke
mestizos desperate to claim chud points by larping as francoists kek
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she needs to rule Spain
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>>219638355
>seething commie troon
Supporting Franco means opposing the Communists who wanted to institute slavery on a national scale (that's what Communism is) and turn Spain into a puppet of the Soviet Union.
That's a very reasonable stance to take.
What in it do you object to?
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>>219638440
They did the bidding of America. You are a cuckold.
Right after we slaughted a bunch of iberimoors too lol
you learn your place
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>>219617925
Explain why you think Spain should've been a slave of the Soviet Union, you commie rat.
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s/chose/choose/
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you lost paco
america won
anglos won
brits won
germanics won
protestants won
everything spain fought against for centuries won
you did our bidding
you ceased to exist as a philosophic and political entity
you became the slaves of superior french and germans
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communism lost, freak
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The Great Battle of the 20th Century
Germanics vs Slavs
Meds learned their place as subhuman dogs
cucked into supporting the hated enemy NW europeans they despised for so long
they built their empire to try and stop us
now they do our bidding
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subhuman moor dog does our bidding
bark when we tell you to bark
your faggot lisp-leader couldn't even get to spain without ANGLOGOD logistics
by simply posting in English on an American website you prostrate yourself to our Superiority
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>>219638661
you lost, commie
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hahahaha paco is seething because we blew up iran
so much for your thirdie multipolar world
you lost
we won
franco did our bidding
everything you thought was a win for your side was actually a loss
outplayed by hated prefidious anglos
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capitalism is objectively anglo and Judaic
you fought for capitlism
you fought for our side
you holocausted everything spain canonically believes in because we psyopped you into commies bad
you are a subhuman dog, spain has never been ruled by itself and we are now your new rulers
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>pallea munching moor thought we actually wanted the commies to win
kek we literally tricked you retards that easily?
tell me brownoid, who flew franco to spain?
WE DID
You got played
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>>219638820
>commies bad
yes
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The guy youre talking about wasn't employed by thr British government and was funded by the Spanish nationalists. This LARP is just thr gift that keeps on giving.
>anglo jews funded their own downfall
Keksimus maximus
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>>219638820
You lost, commie rat.
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>>219638857
insane cope
you got psyopped
you got played
you got owned by superior perfidious anglos
everything your precious brownpire stood for was invalidated by franco
he is the anti-spainard
he represents the deconstruction of 400 years of proud spanish history
he is the antichrist of everything spanish nationalists and hispanistas believe in
He was an asset of The American-British World Order
We Unmade You.
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>>219638927
You lost
We Won
You got psyopped
your victory is actually your defeat
>nooo but we killed our own moorberian brothers and raped the women
just a humiliation ritual for your kind
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>win both world wars
>also Ideologically Conquer Spain who wasn't even part of either of them in-between the wars
Total
Anglo
Victory
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The commie rat doesn't even believe the bullshit it spews.
Notice how it said:
>>219637700
>capitalism is objectively anglo-judaic (and masonic, i always forget you seethe about that boogeyman too kek)
In other words, the commie rat knows it's bullshitting, and is just trying to muddy the waters.
Commies are addicted to lying because their entire worldview is built on a mountain of lies.
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>>219639023
holy cope
you have been Unmade by Hated Anglos and Jews and our Weapon of Capitalism
You no longer exist, you are now a full vassal of the west post franco, no wonder spain is flooding itself with brown muslim immigrants and soon indians
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>>219638977
you lost, commie rat
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>>219639115
I'm Anglo, I won - you do our bidding now, you have ceased to exist as anti-anglo force in the world. You are just a pathetic slave of Your Betters in the west, many of which who are jewish and masonic.
EVERYTHING you stood for has been genocided. Just like you genocided backwards native americans, so too was the backwards african nation state of spain Cleansed.
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>>219639051
>no wonder spain is flooding itself with brown muslim immigrants and soon indians
Leftists like you are the ones who support that:
>>219617878
Who are you trying to gaslight? You're just making a fool of yourself.
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>>219639185
It is, but you think it's a real threat so it's fun to mock you knowing those hated freemasons (who cucked your empire from you) defeated you yet again hin your homelands
but then again you're not even spanish, you're a filthy mestizo larping. but some actual iberimoors will be reading this and will seethe at the fact their Hated British Superiors Psyopped And Defeated Them
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>>219639206
bring in the browns, says the papist church
you fought for this, filthy moor indio dog
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>>219639204
>It is
There it is. The commie rat finally drops the act.
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kek zutted papists
i wonder what humiliation ritual is in store for them next
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>>219639224
??
freemasons are Anglo/America, the soviet union was our great enemy with whom you were supposed to ally (if you wanted to continue your existence as the spanish empire, aka anti-anglo), but you were tricked by us into doing our bidding
in essence you are a british/american colony now.
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>>219639419
? I'm an Anglo American Capitalist, I won, you ceased to exist as our enemy and now do our bidding. Thank you for choosing to serve our side instead of the russkies :)
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papist church is pro-mass migration, your own side is attacking you LOL
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>>219639703
For your nation states? yes, i want to see them ruined
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Loony troon liberals write the history books, so unless you were homeschooled you'll get taught Franco was Spanish Hitler.
Personally, I think he didn't go far enough and if he wanted monarchy to return he shouldn't have chosen a weak cuck like Juan Carlos to take the crown.
t. dixie anglo
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>>219634881
basically this, Franco did fine, and the liberal propaganda that they're magically better at economic development than dictators is bullshit. that said, liberals did fine as well, and the problems we now face won't be solved by nostalgic returning to dictators. in fact the dictators in our future will be more like Trump and Putin and just make things worse. we're not getting another Franco or Mussolini or Hitler.
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>>219616314
He was a soft ass nigga, too good for this rotten and crooked world, honest to God he should have killed at least 10 million spaniards, maybe we wouldn't be in the current situation. Imagine forgiving the life of a single communist instead of skinning them alive and filling the roads of the nation with their impaled heads.
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>>219638555
>your choices were them or Us Anglos
>you chose to be our slaves
So that's the reason of why anglos (both Brits and Americans) had a boycott on Spain as far as the 60s? lmao, you are just sprouting nonsense.
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>>219616374
moroccan or leftist
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>>219643711
You forgot me >>219639957 , pole toilet cleaner man. I enjoy Spain's history. The Reconquista, Inquisition, Colonization, and Civil War periods are very interesting. It's a shame that Spain is in the state it is now, but there are worse countries in Europe.
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>>219617878
It's incredible how this new wave of spanish "new socialists" are incredible virulent they even openly say shit like this with basically zero consequences.
And even between them, Irene Montero is a special kind of "politician" that I found very hard to believe. Like seriously, all the shitty memes people here and /pol/ make about the left, she is the incarnation of all of them, and she is proud if it.
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Franco is somewhat respected in the Polish conservative community, hell, even Mussolini is
the common defense tropes are "Mussolini wasn't antisemitic" or "he saved Polish professors and didn't give them up to Hitler" "he drained the swamp & made trains run on time"
with Franco we point to republican atrocities and the soviet co-organization & the atrocities against the Church and all traditions and see Francoist Spain as a sort of clerical-fascist paradise lost
here's a Polish public TV program where invited historians with differing opinions are selected to debate on a given topic and here's the episode where they debate about Franco
https://vod.tvp.pl/programy,88/spor-o-historie-odcinki,273592/odcinek- 74,S01E74,346947
>He protected Jews and spoke out critically about the racial policies of the Third Reich. At the same time, his Blue Division fought alongside Hitler on the Eastern Front. He achieved military successes, but in the civil war, he resorted to bloody solutions. During his rule, the "White Terror" reigned, but the country quickly embarked on a path of economic development. Who was General Franco really?
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>>219646320
Why do thirdies care? If You are lucky You Will visit Spain, there is almost no chance You will ever live or settle there. Let the Spanish worry about their country because the country where You live in is in much bigger trouble.
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>>219646320
Her party is collapsing and wants to be noticed.
In the end both parties fuelled alternatives to their opponents to strip them of votes. Seems that this tactic has worked better for the "left", their alternatives are almost gone while PP is having a hard time with VOX.
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>>219616314
completely unknown/irrelevant
maybe only mentioned when talking about finns abroad as mercenaries/volunteer fighters. Finns fought for both sides.
Also the show "Cuéntame cómo pasó" was shown here on TV
It's called
>Francon aika
in finnish
or
>The Franco era
I think this show is the most attention he has gotten in Finland