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The Eastern world, it is explodin'
Violence flarin', bullets loadin'
You're old enough to kill but not for votin'
You don't believe in war, but what's that gun you're totin'?
And even the Jordan river has bodies floatin'
but'chya
TELL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, MY FRIEND
HOW YOU DON'T BELIEVE
WE'RE ON THE EVE OF DESTRUCTION
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>>219668398
Stop pimping our women out to gringos carnal
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He will make DR world champions again
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>>219668335
And then she contradicted herself shortly afterwards. No, the idea that one of the most hostile countries in the world with the most amount of enemies would spend billions on a nuclear energy program they don't need is incredibly unconvincing and you would frankly have to be quite gullible to fall for it. The IAEA has inspected their nuclear facilities and found uranium that was enriched to 60% and above which is far above the 5% for civilian use and iranian officials have admitted that they were enriching far beyond civilian use because of the collapse of the nuclear deal, an obvious admission
You genuinely have no argument against this
>>219668359
No. He just said it over and over again and described it several times what it meant. You are mistaking the intepretation of retards like MTG of MAGA with Trump's
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>>219668473
>collapse of the nuclear deal
Something that is also Trump's fault, the IAEA said there is no evidence of trying to make nuclear weapons. The enrichment was just a bargaining chip to bring them back to the table, but Trump put in a poison pill in the last negotiations, they want Iran to give up any ballistic missiles, so they can't defend themselves. The goal was always invasion.
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>>219668477
>Why wouldn't they want nukes they're surrounded by hostile countries
you're getting emotional because it's still a "what if" that falls apart when faced with a simple fact backed by 30+ years of not having nukes... and the accuser, the US government, is a known liar with a track record of lying and being wrong about these things. where were iraq's wmds?
the same logic you're using can be applied to any american really. Any american that owns a gun is just two hours away from committing a mass shooting, should the 2A be repealed and guns taken away? this logic is used by like women and literal retards and you're definitely either one one of those or both
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>shake that anus
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>>219668541
>30+ years of not having nukes...
Yeah cause we keep bombing that shit or doing other sabotage
>>the US government, is a known liar with a track record of lying and being wrong about these things. where were iraq's wmds?
All governments lie so what why do you trust the word of the Iranian government
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>>219668518
Ok, retard
>>219668538
>IAEA said there is no evidence of trying to make nuclear weapons
Except for all the highly enriched uranium...
>The enrichment was just a bargaining chip to bring them back to the table
They develop a nuclear enrichment program for nuclear energy that they don't need and would be a wasteful investment so that they could highly enrich uranium so they could pretend decades later that like they were trying to make nukes to use as a bargaining chip against Trump?
You are getting extremely desperate to avoid admitting that you lost the argument
>but Trump put in a poison pill in the last negotiations, they want Iran to give up any ballistic missiles, so they can't defend themselves. The goal was always invasion.
No shit. Going back to the nuclear deal would be insanely retarded and the negotiations were just to lull them into a false sense of security while they planned their attacks against them
Ask yourself why the nuclear deal was deemed necessary if they had no plans to develop nukes. The fact that i even have to point this out is insane btw
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>>219668453
Dangan Ronpa?
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>30+ years of not having nukes
>"b-b-but they can make them in two weeks!"
>okay sure but they haven't done it in 30 years so do you have any actual evidence they will do it now besides your emotions?
>"no not really but they can make them!!! think about the uranium!!!"
>meanwhile the accuser (USA) also has a track record of being a renowned liar and is known to have lied about other states having WMDs
this is your argument.
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>>219668585
Dude your making an argument on no evidence, under the Obama's deal the IAEA had access to Iran's facilities to make sure it was only for civilian use. Trump canceled the deal, only then did then enrich uranium, and still never made any weapons, after the deal was canceled they started enriching more than Obama's deal allowed so they could get the US to make another deal, but Trump obviously wants war. To this day there is no evidence of a weapons program. The US is just falling for the same tricks again to fight Israel's wars.
>Going back to the nuclear deal would be insanely retarded
Instead of starting a war they can't win
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>>219668608
If you think it's good for America to have allies then you should think it's bad for America's allies to be at risk from a incredibly hostile nation with nuclear weapons. Look at their latest rocket attacks and see how erratic and retarded they are
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>>219668692
>$8
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>>219668724
we also have 2 olympic gold medals
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MIss me?
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>>219668732
I get r/combatfootage videos, you get 1000+ dollar ambulance rides
and with that I big you gentlemen farewell because I shall be going to sleep
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>>219668781
Need advice from a non incel
>>219668784
Prefer not to say
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>>219668755
reminder that he was NEVER president. you are falling for the convenient lies of those that fornicate with goats. actual mindless zog taurus golem
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>>219668791
correct
>>219668796
escalate vietnam and destabilize SEA? cozy up to the chinese and destroy the rustbelt? heckin BASED!!!!
>>219668797
>those fags that go to the bohemian grove
>which I attend form time to time
hmmmm....
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>>219668655
>2 weeks
Strawman. They were prevented from developing it for decades. You are far too retarded to be arguing against me about this issue
>>219668662
Now you have completely given up on making an argument against the obvious fact that their intention was always to develop nuclear weapons and now you're just stating it as a matter of fact and you are still clinging to the hilariously unconvincing and naive idea that their nuclear program was for civilian use
No. The idea that iran could collect money and be the biggest terror backer in the world for the low price of not being able to have highly enriched uranium in certain designated areas for 10 years is a retarded deal
>Instead of starting a war they can't win
I don't trust your judgement so i will rather watch and see
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>Bruce Campbell has cancer
Nooooooo
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>>219668834
>Now you have completely given up on making an argument against the obvious fact that their intention was always to develop nuclear weapons and now you're just stating it as a matter of fact and you are still clinging to the hilariously unconvincing and naive idea that their nuclear program was for civilian use
I never said that, the deal was made because Israel did not trust them, but that wasn't good enough for them they wanted war, they're getting what they want now
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real purpose of this and venezuela is obviously to destroy the last line of defense against jewish world domination
goycattle didn't really care about the palestinian genocide or the fact that the pres and half his administration turned out to be child rapists so they figured they could go ahead with overthrowing iran and bombing a school killing 150 goyim children while they're at it because why not
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>>219668732
List your other allies and then re-ask the question
>>219668753
I'm right and you're wrong
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>>219668855
Bizarre post
There are good movies from the 1920s. By your logic, no one is old enough to enjoy them
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>>219668731
>we
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>>219668850
>started withdrawing
>>219668872
>ended the whole anti-war protest and winning china won USA the cold war
LMAO, DO REPUBLICANS REALLY
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>>219668851
Try replying again. I'm sure you can fit more of substance
>>219668878
Except military sites, other weapons facilities, really any place that iran hadn't already declared to be a nuclear facility
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its over
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>>219668893
>hilariously unconvincing and naive idea that their nuclear program was for civilian use
This is not an argument, there was no evidence of of nuclear weapons program and for military sites or other undeclared facilities, the JCPOA allowed the IAEA to request access if it had specific concerns about undeclared nuclear material or activities. If unresolved, a Joint Commission (including the U.S., UK, France, Germany, Russia, China, and Iran) votes.
A majority vote could require Iran to grant access. Again I say there was never any evidence that Iran made nuclear weapons and Iran are allowed to use nuclear power like any other country.
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You see, my problem with dating is that my soul, my deepest interior world, is filled with gratitude, light, and honor. And everyone I meet has growths on their heads and is emitting poison mist like they desperately want to inflict the evil and madness inside them upon me. And I want nothing to do with it, less than nothing even
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>>219668976
Not a single part of my prior arguments rested on the idea that they were violating the nuclear deal even if i did make an off-hand comment about the IAEA's ability to track down every piece of enriched uranium in iran. Are you accidentallg getting side-tracked or are you intentionally deflecting? Because i have no reason to argue this point one way or another
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEgdX77zJSg
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>>219669044
Your only point that their enrichment is suspicious which can easily be explained by Iran wanting leverage in negotiations, no actual evidence of a weapons program, Trump could of made an actual deal but he wanted to be Israel's cocksleeve and start another war.
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sepuku time
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Just saw an interview with Dr. Jiang, and he said that Iran will win the war, and then the USA will collapse, and then China will become the hegemon for all eternity.
It's so funny to watch chuds seethe in the comments!
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>>219669081
>be explained by Iran wanting leverage in negotiations
An incredibly unconvincing explanation. A less trusting person would doubt your honesty because i struggle to comprehend anyone actually falling for that after being presented with counter-arguments
>Your only point that their enrichment is suspicious
Yeah, there is only overwhelming evidence and not definitive proof in a case where it isn't worth taking risks
>no actual evidence of a weapons program
Blatantly false
>Trump could of made an actual deal
Or he could just make the less retarded and cowardly decision to behead them and scare the rest of the turdworld into obedience
Not fucking them up in their weakened state after they crossed his red line would have been idiotic and practically a permission for china to go after taiwan
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>>219669136
You lost
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Lol
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>>219669187
Actually it does make sense because Iran was abiding by the deal before, they just wanted another deal. I doubt want they wanted is war.
>Or he could just make the less retarded and cowardly decision to behead them and scare the rest of the turdworld into obedience
Yea but this isn't going to work, they're just going to have new people, and the US will waste another trillion dollars in a foreign war.
And it isn't blatantly false that there is no evidence of a weapons program, it's literally true.
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Once again can’t sleep
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Hallmark movie anon
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>>219669242
I was the same because I thought us getting bogged down in foreign wars for decades sucked, but now I realize the issue was trying to nation build. If we just bomb the shit out of our enemies or steal their leaders, and don't have prolonged deployments then I'm fine with it.
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>>219669255
>bomb the shit out of our enemies or steal their leaders
And you don't think this will have repercussions in the future? Don't you think that's quite short-sighted, why not just build a great economy and leave othe countries alone.
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>>219669224
>. I doubt want they wanted is war.
Obviously not. That's what the nukes are for
>>219669242
Never happened. I have always supported squishing uppity turdworlders
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>>219669264
Why? I think in certain cases it should be, because if you bet a lot of money that someone will die then someone might go and make it happen themselves, but in geopolitics or geopolitical figures I think it is fine.
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>>219669271
>if you kill your enemies they win type argument
Being paralyzed into passivity through fear of unknown future retaliation sounds a hell of a lot less convincing than the idea of removing threats as they arise and scaring future threats away from appearing. The safety we currently enjoy only exists because no one has the strength to take it from us
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>>219669210
saw that film
utter shit
>>219669180
YOU HAD A BOYFRIEND
THAT LOOKED LIKE A GIRLFRIEND
THAT I HAD IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAE
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>>219669284
This is like saying that Casinos should be banned because its unfair that they have an edge. Polymarket is literally gambling, it is stock investing. Don't bet if you can't handle the risk or the knowledge that other may have more information than you.
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>>219669307
>Being paralyzed into passivity through fear of unknown future retaliation sounds a hell of a lot less convincing than the idea of removing threats as they arise and scaring future threats away from appearing
Us? Are you American? You just gave the reason for all the warmongering in the last decades and it ended up a waste of trillions of dollars and waste of money based on lies.
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Don’t you miss simpler times before wars for Israel
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>>219669312
it is NOT stock investing*
>>219669307
>The safety we currently enjoy only exists because no one has the strength to take it from us
Well said. Better that we have control over international affairs, it allows you to always avoid becoming a victim intentionally or unintentionally
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Starting to experience legitimately intense ideation of committing extreme acts of violence at my housemate due to how obnoxious they are. It's concerning I don't think I've ever felt something like this before. It's to the point that even the most minor things fill me with rage and anger. I'm irritated at all times. Hearing their voice makes me almost want to explode. I start thinking of just shooting them in the head and the deep and profound sense of peace and quiet I would experience afterwards. I think communication is necessary and I need to explain in no uncertain terms the things that I am taking issues with and the level of distress it is causing me. Although I find it unlikely that anyone could be so ignorant as to be unaware how their actions are effecting those around them. More than likely its simple apathy and selfishness. "I don't care if my behavior is causing problems or disrupting the peace of anyone else". That's the attitude I imagine. I also imagine vividly what it'd be like to watch you die and never have to hear your stupid obnoxious voice or deal with your selfishness ever again.
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>>219669353
>unless you think our own military is comically evil.
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>>219669340
That building was used as a Iranian military HQ prior to being used as a school after the Iranian military moved the HQ to a nearby building. What Muslims terrorist regimes do is use children as human shields to try to discourage their enemies from striking key areas. They base at or near hospitals, schools etc intentionally. Terrible thing, but ain't our fault, that command HQ had to go.
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>>219669377
Never forget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre
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I hope more Americans die so we pull out quickly. Then in 10 years when Israel wants help with a tangentially related war of aggression an Israel flag can lecture me about how we wouldn't have to do this if Trump didn't cuck out.
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>>219669391
>Country that explicitly states its goal is to destroy America is not a threat
>That same country stockpiling weaponry, attempting to build nukes, and supplying and arming America's enemies is not a threat
Moron.
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>>219669398
We get the best intel we can to try to reduce such incidents but you can never have 100% perfect intel. It's a bummer, but these things happen in war. I'd wager Iran would never even attempt to reduce civilian causality if it ever had the ability to bomb the USA, so I don't feel too bad quite frankly.
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>>219669403
>Country that explicitly states its goal is to destroy America is not a threat
This is actually false, there's no official policy that Iran wants to destroy the US. The death to America was a slogan during the revolution when you CIA'd their country for oil money.
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>>219669408
Not an argument. I accept your concession. Maybe you'll win the next debate.
>>219669388
Leftists really need to move on from events that took place 60 years ago. They really don't carry the weight you think they do. Do you think Iran should be punished for the massacre of protestors, I'm guessing not. Leftists only seem to understand nuance when it is a vile evil regime that commits such acts.
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I don't feel like typing everything out. But relying on me constantly for favors is one thing. Being just a very selfish person in general, taking advantage of others constantly. And I could overlook everything but the #1, single issue that dwarfs all others is they NEVER EVER EVER shut the fuck up. EVER. I mean months on end, never a single moment this mother fucker isn't on the phone, using speaker, walking around the house talking. They don't ever get off the phone. Ever. I have been listening to them and their obnoxious friends droning on and on and on for months now without a single minute of break. I am driving him around all weekend because he relies on me and the entire time sitting in the passenger seat fucking yapping on and on. Asking "oh can you drive me to X, can you drive me to Y" and I'm just fucking wasting my time and gas money to help and in return I get to listen to this mf just constantly laughing and talking and just being loud as fuck. Especially when I am trying to sleep or focus on something it is driving me fucking insane. I can't emphasize this enough, I am not exaggerating when I say months without ever there being even 2 minutes they're not on the phone. Not even when shitting. Not even when showering. Then stuff like turning their camera on to show their friend stuff in the house and I say "don't point that at me, I don't want to be recorded", and just completely ignores me and does it anyways and there fucking friend make some comment about my appearance despite I just fucking said don't point your fucking camera at me. Complete disregard for what I said and act like I don't even exist, just yapping on the phone.
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>Nothing I said was trolling, and I see you have no response. I accept your concession. That's two leftoids owned in the span of 5 minutes. Proud of myself.
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>>219669452
That goal was to bring them to the negotiating table, but even after seeing that we could destroy their nuclear infrastructure whenever needed they refused a deal. That showed that there was no potential for a deal, and that war was necessary. Also, they were not back to their original development level already you moron, they were just starting to try to get back there, but that showed that they would not stop and no leverage would make them do a deal, thus war became necessary. They were given the final chance to make a deal this week, and chose to reject and stall instead, and this is the result of their hubris.
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>I'm totally, definitely not a leftist, but I will ALWAYS support third-world brown anti-American regimes.
Sure thing faggots.
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>>219669484
Gonna need to ask you to calm down there bud
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>>219669464
>I can't argue because I'm an ignorant sub-80 IQ shitskin, so I'll just call you a Jew.
Not fond of Jews or Israel either quite frankly, leftoid. I figured you love them since they are the ones who push woke and pro-immigrant shit in the USA.
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And fucking backseat driving too. "OH I would've turned there" "I would've gone thar way instead of this way" "watch out!" "You should turn here instead" "see the thing is the best way to drive is to xyz" Constantly acting like this mf is teaching me how to drive or something. NIGGER THE REASON YOU EVEN RELY ON ME IS BECAUSE YOU WRECKED YOUR FUCKING CAR. I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN AN ACCIDENT IN MY LIFE. YOUVE BEEN IN SEVERAL. STFU. Even fucking complaining about my music asking "oh you should put on xyz music instead" aaahaahahahahahahahahdvdg egg wyryreyryr
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>>219669503
Iran hates America because we kept the Shah in power because he was anti-communist, and radical Muslims didn't like that he was aligned with the West. You can make arguments that other Middle Eastern powers only disliked us because of our support for Israel, but Iran is not one of them.
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>>219669506
Supporting America's enemies in foreign countries and killing Americans and their allies directly or indirectly in the thousands is more than enough reason to destroy the iranian regime. Iran was just helping its allies? Fine, America is just helping its allies right now, too
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Jews are rich
Jews own the media outlets and banks
Jews lobby politicians to support Jewish interests
Jewish interests involve the domination of Israel over Israeli enemies
Jewish owned broadcasting stations air propagandistic lies defending it
And here we are for the umpteenth time. 10 years from now (or less) everyone will know it was all bullshit just like Iraq and Libya and Syria and Afghanistan. But goycattle will fall for it every time
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did you know Frieren is an elflet?
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imagine still being a MAGApede
lmao
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>>219669528
If you do it, you will deeply regret it.
Grab 2 ice cubes in each hand and squeeze them
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>>219669544
Let me ask you this. If we completely left Iran alone. Let them do WHATEVER they wanted, what do you think the outcome would be? You think them having nukes would be good for the world? You think them funding whichever militant group they wanted would be good for the world? You think them continuing to supply Russia with drones and equipment would be good for the world? You can critique Jewish power, and see Iran as a threat you know, right? They aren't exclusive.
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>>219669561
*his
>>219669565
He's next
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>>219669565
Putins war is genuinely in Russias interest
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>>219669568
If saddam build an iron man suit what would happen?!?!?!?!
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>>219669540
>implying 9/11 wasn't an inside job
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>>219669579
>Iran was enriching Uranium above 60% levels according to independent reports in addition to US reports for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Uranium and nukes are actually a Jewish myth.
I noticed you didn't answer my question by the way. Is their arming of Russia a myth too? You moron.
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Wait,
THEY DONT LIKE I LOVE YOU
WAIT
they don't love you like I love you
Maaaaaaaaaps
WAIT
THEY DONT LOVE YOU LIKE I LOVE YOU
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>>219669593
Not really. Trump just does whatever the last person he talked to told him to do. He has flip-flopped on Ukraine. Gave some aid, then tried to get them to surrender. Supported them, then said Zelensky is bad. He is just unstable towards them, but his administration members in the Secretary of State team and Pentagon are definitely pro-Ukraine. Also, taking out Venezuela and Iran helps Ukraine. Iran directly supplied Russia with drones, and the more of Russia's allies that fall without any help from Russia isolates them more and prevents them from gaining new allies since the world can see that Russia will abandon it's allies at the first sight of trouble.
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>>219669603
No they dont
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>>219669612
Instead of gambling on whether they would use them or not, how about we just make sure we don't have to wonder about that at all? Also, are you about to pull a Japan was the victim in WW2 also? Leftists really are something else lmfao
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>>219669635
>We need to let every country have nukes or else the Jews win
The mind of you people really is fascinating.
>>219669627
The USA doesn't need oil from foreign countries anymore, we are the larger producer on Earth now.
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>>219669669
https://www.kielinstitut.de/publications/news/ukraine-support-after-4- years-of-war-europe-steps-up/
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Iran would never do anything to America.
They’re too busy not starving and making skyscraper high seethe murals.
Putin on the other hand!
But Monsieur Clementine would never bunker bust the Kremlin.
Donald is a gosh darn coward and commie lover! Sickens me.
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>>219669689
Okay, I just looked into it. The USA has continued to supply the aid to Ukraine promised over the past years, but just has not approved new aid, which is fine. Again, we are continuing to give them the $188B we promised, and Europe should in fact step up in supplying future aid given they have never pulled their weight in NATO until now.
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>>219669619
US factories still physically produce most of Ukraine's military aid. Euros are now paying us for it (and ultimately they'll be using the seized Russian funds to do so I suspect). But the bottleneck is physical production and Ukraine's military still depends on the US not needing munitions such as interceptors for other purposes. One more reason this war is so infuriating